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Censored Toronto Pianist Lisitsa: 'They Offered Me Money to be Quiet' / Sputnik International (sputniknews.com)

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[–]ibellifinzi -12 ポイント-11 ポイント  (21子コメント)

At the very least there will be one less performance of Rach 2 in this world, and if that's not a blessing, I don't know what is.

[–]EubieDubieBlake 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (8子コメント)

That's a cute response, but there's a much bigger issue here: “Yes, Toronto Symphony is going TO PAY ME NOT TO PLAY because I exercised the right to free speech. Yes, they will pay my fee but they are going to announce that I will be unable to play and they already found a substitute. And they even threatened me against saying anything about the cause of the cancellation,” writes Lisitsa, adding, “If they do it once, they will do it again and again, until the musicians, artists are intimidated into voluntary censorship. Our future will be bleak if we allow this to happen.”

[–]NoodleNonger 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (6子コメント)

The other way of looking at it is I'm guessing they have no obligation to let her perform as long as everything continues as normal on a financial level so it's completely unsurprising that if she's going to take a controversial public standing that some venues may not want her to perform or to perform with her. In the same way I can announce myself as a hardcore racist but it doesn't mean any job I'm working at has to keep me after I announce it.

[–]thefran -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yep! Disagreeing with the official™ CNN-approved version of the events is announcing yourself as a hardcore racist.

[–]NoodleNonger 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm exaggerating the analogy of course but the same principles apply. If they're going to pay her anyway, they have no obligation to let her perform if they don't agree with her as a person. She has the right to free speech. They have the right to terminate her employment. Simple as that.

[–]thefran -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

But it's obvious discrimination in an attempt to silence a person who did what she did because she was infuriated at her own prime minister calling her a subhuman.

That's not terminating a person for being a racist, that's terminating a person for being a civil rights activist.

[–]BroseppeVerdi -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

The TSO was hoping to avoid taking flak from a small, vocal minority by doing this, but they ended up with a shitload of negative international publicity. To me the big question is: Was it even worth it?

If pisses me the fuck off when artistic organizations kowtow to vocal minorities who make a big stink over nothing. Like that nonsense last year when people were protesting and interrupting LSO concerts because Valery Gergiev is a Putin supporter. Are classical musicians not allowed to have political opinions? Is there something about classical music that is so sacred that it's practitioners can't engage in civilized discourse outside the realm of music? Ted Nugent called Hillary Clinton a cunt onstage, then threatened to kill both her and Barack Obama, but the last time I checked, his career is still alive and well. Why the double standard?

[–]Ken_Breadbox 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

One of that vocal minority happened to be a pretty heavy donor. Money talks, Valentina walks.

[–]BroseppeVerdi 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just finished reading Melanson's statement, where he said that rumor was completely untrue.

[–]ibellifinzi 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was making light of the situation. Of course censorship in music is a bad thing and the censorship of performers with 'anti-western' views on the conflict in Ukraine makes me even more uneasy with the situation. You'd be a fool to claim otherwise (or get unnecessarily riled up about a comment which appeared to place more weight on the programme than the issue at hand)

However, I saw the opportunity to make a slight jab at how Rach 2 is so incredibly overplayed at the expense of other piano concerti. Whilst not an issue on the same level as censorship of performers, the question of diversity of the repetoire of modern orchestras is definitely one which warrants further discussion.

However in all of this I forgot just how much this sub adores the piece (for some reason) and won't hear a single word of criticism against it. Sorry for hurting anyone's feelings by expressing a contrary opinion.

[–]ironykarl 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Be a real shame if the occasional concert goer had the opportunity to hear a piece he or she loved, live, right?!

[–]vertigo88 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I requested a refund because Rach 2 got cancelled.

Call Rach whatever you like, but you cannot deny Rach 2 and 3

[–]nonnein 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (8子コメント)

I'm guessing you're taking OP a little too seriously here

[–]ironykarl -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (7子コメント)

It's just a stupid, flippant, elitist thing to say. It was designed to broadcast his or her taste. *Yawn*

[–]nonnein 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

designed to broadcast his or her taste

The thing is, nobody gets mad about this when someone expresses a positive opinion of a piece. Why does everyone take it as a personal offense when somebody expresses a negative opinion?

[–]ironykarl -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Because elitism is perceived to be one of the turn-offs for classical music.

Maybe it's not fair to pigeonhole OP like this. W/e.

[–]Toni_Duvor_Jacques 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This just in: expressing negative opinions of generally popular pieces is elitism.

[–]NoodleNonger 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Huh, I just kind of assumed it was aimed at the fact that when it comes to piano concertos, Rach 2 is kind of... is cliche the right word? I'm sure you get what I mean either way.

[–]ironykarl 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

It is, but as I said, what about people that seldom get to attend concerts and want to hear something they love live?!

[–]NoodleNonger 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, but my point was, I think it was just a light joke that everyone took a bit too seriously. That said, he certainly pitched it with a straight face.

[–]ibellifinzi 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I thought prefacing it with 'at the very least' would alert some people to the fact that I was finding a 'silver lining' as it were. Congrats on grasping the subtlety that others seemed to miss.

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