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Something weird is going on (self.Bitcoin)

bdarmstrong が 投稿

Coinbase CEO here. We take our fair share of flak on /r/bitcoin so in some ways it was a normal day. But I was also pretty surprised at what I saw happen today and wanted to share it since it is important that we keep the /r/bitcoin community free of voting manipulation.

Today we made an announcement on our blog saying that we're giving away $20k of bitcoin to people building bitcoin apps (a hackathon), along with some other stuff (Boost.VC investment to the winner, guest judges, etc). Not an earth shattering announcement by any means, but overall a positive thing for the bitcoin community that will generate some cool new apps and developer interest.

Yet you probably never heard about it.

The first post on /r/bitcoin which went live linked to our blog post. http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/31s4gz/introducing_the_bitcoin_hackathon_v2/

Combined up and down votes came to a total of 0, along with a nice "Fuck off Coinbase" message.

Some media decided to write about the hackathon, and thinking the above situation was sort of strange, I went ahead and posted a link to one of the articles: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/31son1/adam_draper_fred_wilson_and_gavin_andresen_to/

Same thing happend: 2 upvotes and and a nice "fuck off Coinbase" message by the same throw away account.

This is especially surprising if you consider that last year when we ran the exact same Hackathaon, it got 289 upvotes. http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1xu0ot/coinbase_launches_bithack_an_online_bitcoin/

Seems pretty obvious it would get upvotes. You don't even have to use the Coinbase API at all - you can literally build any cool app that uses bitcoin in any way and we will give you free money. The outrage!

I've been trying to think about how this happened. My only theories are:

1. Reddit voting ring detection is busted and is downvoting us incorrectly

There are a bunch of Coinbase employees in one office behind a single IP, and some of them might have upvoted it (although we discourage this in case it triggers voting ring detection). I can't imagine more than a few Coinbase employees upvoted it, if any, before it got downvoted though, so I'd be a little surprised if this was the case.

2. There are bots or trolls actively down voting Coinbase stuff

This seems plausible given the throw away account chiming in on both posts. But they would need (I assume) more than a troll or two to actively down it into oblivion.

3. There is some other explanation I haven't considered

I have noticed that a lot of our posts that make it to /r/bitcoin have very binary outcomes - either they sail to the front page and get upvoted to the moon, or some trolls snag the first few votes, and it never sees the light of day.

Anyway, if there is some other theory I would love to hear it - it would really suck if people were figuring out ways to manipulate reddit's voting for any purpose. Even if you don't like Coinbase, hopefully we can all get behind preventing voting rings (and giving money to bitcoin developers).

So...what the gosh darn heck is going on?

Edit: troll justice, now that this is on the front page please register for our hackathon which is giving $70k in total prizes to people building new bitcoin apps all over the world. Fred Wilson, Chris Dixon, Gavin Andresen, and Adam Draper will be guest judges. This coincides with the launch of our new developer site. Thank you!

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[–]CarlMarkForcelV 158 ポイント159 ポイント  (11子コメント)

told you should have partnered with me

[–]token_dave 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The Bitcoin fascinates me!

[–]solled 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (7子コメント)

And the username too! damn you

[–][削除されました]  (5子コメント)

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    [–]paavokoya 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Nice try Carla

    [–]CarlMarkForcelV 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    WTF Shaun?

    [–]newhampshire22 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Maybe you can get reddit to delete it for you?

    [–][削除されました]  (1子コメント)

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      [–]newhampshire22 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I'm sure that will work.

      [–]ztsmart 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Gosh Darn you

      FTFY

      [–]targetpro -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Great quote! +1. But you need to cite it so newbies know WTH you're talking about!

      [–]shadyMFer 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Downvoted because appending an explanation of why a joke is funny at the end ruins the joke. Inside jokes are meant for insiders, newbs will understand once they get up on our level, 'til then they can google it.

      [–]EnglishBulldog 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      The replies in this submission are amazing, it looks like Darkbutt has made some friends.

      [–]targetpro 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (9子コメント)

      The r/bitcoin sub is littered with trolls, who take their jobs quite seriously. I give them a lot of credit for their sheer diligence. While the rest of us are casual visitors, who might upvote a few posts, and occasionally comment, I've seen trolls mass downvote the last 20 comments I've made.

      Vote manipulation is appreciably common here, as are false-flag posts, and "concern" posts.

      Just do what all the other CEOs do: ignore r/bitcoin and you won't miss a thing. Even one of our mods (supposedly responsible for de-trolling here) is a mod at r/buttcoin. Yes, the scene here is that ridiculous of a joke.

      So unless you like rummaging among the unwashed masses (as I do), I wouldn't give r/bitcoin a moment of thought.

      And of course, all your news releases should be through vetted channels that necessarily are not r/bitcoin.

      [–]bdarmstrong[S] 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Just do what all the other CEOs do: ignore r/bitcoin and you won't miss a thing

      Ouch >_<

      [–]bitcoinquestions001 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Seriously man, this subreddit was once something but it is no longer. Time to move on to bigger and better things.

      [–]frankenmint 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I've seen engaging behavior from our disgusting immature yet free to the same liberties little brother subreddit so today's events are probably skewed much more greater than usual. Don't take the voting behavior too serious here. If anything, consider posting it amongst other blogs and allowing it to gradually flock here via internet word of mouth.

      Also, Thank You! I for one appreciate your organization contributing money towards innovation within the technology.

      [–]secret_bitcoin_login 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      That's a bad idea. Trolls or not, /r/bitcoin is a valuable source of eyeballs and information. They may be murky waters, but they've got lots of fish.

      [–]AManBeatenByJacks 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Even one of our mods (supposedly responsible for de-trolling here) is a mod at r/buttcoin.

      This can't be true. That sub is so annoying.

      [–]elycamp11 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      wtf is going on? is this /r/conspiracy?

      [–]MrMadden 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      I blame the Canadians. It's fun to do.

      [–]TecumsehKing 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Lay off there you hoser. Time to hack a dart then I'm going for a rip there bud.

      Translation: That's unkind, nemesis. Let's have a smoke and take a cruise.

      [–]solled 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      There seems to be a lot of negativity in r/bitcoin lately and I've been wondering myself what's going on. Recently whenever I make a simple factual comment like "Square said they're going to integrate bitcoin in their next register" it gets downvoted. I could understand if it gets no upvotes, but why would something like that go negative?

      Anyway I would say there's an increase in trolls combined with Coinbase news perhaps not seeming like fresh news to get the needed upvotes to counter it.

      Keep up the good work. From a happy Coinbase customer.

      [–]ABC_AlwaysBeCoding 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Not sure if you're out of touch, since you've probably been quite busy playing startup CEO, but just to reel you back into the fold a bit...

      A year ago I was a huge fan. I literally did many thousands of dollars of business with you, having mined most of my coins between 2011-2014.

      This year is an ENTIRELY different story. I can't seem to buy a single bitcoin from you (yes, I tried 4, then 3, then 2, THEN ONE) without the Spanish Inquisition treatment (followed by a rejection of the transaction, days later!) My account has had full verification for years now.

      I understand that this is all part of AMLKYC compliance, but this does not make it any less onerous, especially considering that Bitcoin itself takes a Honey Badger approach to all this (and this is why the community likes it). And ESPECIALLY given how much business I've done with you in the past. (Seriously. Possibly a hundred thousand fiat dollars or more. PM me for details.)

      Lastly, "guilty until proven innocent" is a really shitty way to run a government OR a company. And this philosophy is of course what AMLKYC is based on, all in the name of risk mitigation. But Bitcoin folks despise it, of course. (They're not a risk-averse, authority-respecting sort.)

      How about trying a new, radical form of risk mitigation- Trusting your regular customers!

      Anyway, despite being a pioneer, your company's extremely strict behavior of late has been a HUGE turnoff. It was bad enough that you insisted on private key custody early on (which seems to have been a good decision, for now, given all the security issues out there currently).

      Hope this is not a shocker. Did you expect NO backlash by going the route you did? There's a reason why one of the April Fools' jokes I saw was "Ben Lawsky joins Coinbase." Because it's entirely plausible.

      Disclaimer: I was at Boost.vc recently and met Adam Draper as a new angel investor, which means I might actually run into you at some point, which means I'm being as civil as I can (unlike others here).

      [–]eburnside 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      This. 1000x.

      All the "I'm a happy customer" people... wait until Coinbase "Paypal's" you.

      [–]nexted 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      It seems as though every PayPal-like internet commerce service engages in this sort of thing eventually. I would simply point out that the one thing they have in common are the financial regulations to which they are unfortunately beholden to.

      Even PayPal was initially described as full of ideological libertarians (I mean, it was co-founded by Peter Thiel, come on) who ran into this wall of regulation.

      Here's a quick excerpt I dug up, since I can't find the original article I read this in:

      Few people in Silicon Valley can match Thiel’s combination of business prowess and philosophical breadth. He pushed hard to build PayPal, against formidable obstacles, because he wanted to create an online currency that could circumvent government control. (Though the company succeeded as a business, it never achieved that libertarian goal—Thiel attributes the failure mainly to heightened concerns, after 9/11, that terrorists might exploit electronic currency systems.)

      http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2011/11/28/no-death-no-taxes

      Unfortunately, we need Coinbase to provide their service to bootstrap the Bitcoin economy. Hopefully one day we (and Coinbase) will both be able to break free of this nonsense when gateways to the traditional financial system significantly less necessary than today.

      [–]chegu1 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Probably the atmosphere has just changed a lot in the last year. For one back then coinbase was new and a larger presence in the community. Things have changed and there is huge amount of news, so coinbase news won't make as big of a splash.

      Also, another thing to consider is a lot of people are getting fed up with coinbase and their KYC/AML invasive policies. Banning people for playing poker. Asking invasive ridiculous questions, etc... I understand that you are trying to lick the boots of regulators, but people are not going to like it, that is just the reality of it.

      [–]bubfranks 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      For what it's worth, I saw your post linking to the bizjournals article.

      This is especially surprising if you consider that last year when we ran the exact same Hackathaon, it got 289...

      Seems pretty obvious it would get upvotes.

      You're assuming the 1st and the 2nd hackathons would garner similar enthusiasm at /r/bitcoin. This assumption could be invalid for a variety of reasons that come to mind.

      This post strikes me as the kind of thing you write...save as draft...and wait until tomorrow to see if you still want to send it.

      [–]kcfnrybak 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Starting to become like the Yahoo Finance message board,(Troll Heaven).

      [–]BitcoinCollege 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      @barmstrong Consider Hackathon not as the highest priority for just a moment. The Bitcoin community needs more communication and soft skills.

      I've tried to fork artists and communicators into github a while ago, but it seems not to land well. The Blockchain needs communicators and artists too, people who can connect with human skills and neuro linguistics to inspire and communicate with the rest of the planet in the spirit of the core developers and bitcoin community.

      edit: you know, we can rock the world too with this artists and communication consensus in The Blockchain and github. Artists got to be known as the first BlockChain github Rembrandt or any other art master for the community. Express to the word, gain momentum and lock into history. Energize the community on a different level: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFFyMmiOSi8

      [–]n1nj4_v5_p1r4t3 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      1. There are bots or trolls actively down voting Coinbase stuff

      They will be hatin' when your shinining. Keep on rockin. Your organizations has worked for very well every time. The haters are the ones your denied service to :)

      [–]hablamanos2 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Hmm... I'm sure there are places online where you can buy upvotes/downvotes. So it would only take 1 troll to pay one of these people to downvote something into oblivion. Now i don't know what motivation someone would have for this, but it's a possibility.

      [–]paleh0rse 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (73子コメント)

      Paging /u/whollyhemp ... did you or any of your new /buttcoin friends have anything to do with this?

      Whatever the case, it's unacceptable. Please fix it.

      [–]IntellectualEuphoria 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Operation butthurt

      [–]paleh0rse 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Yeah, that's the nickname they've given the whole situation in /buttcoin. Whollyhemp really made their day!

      [–]whollyhemp 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (67子コメント)

      I still just love how my simply asking for the ability for people to speak their mind about Bitcoin without being downvoted and called trolls automatically makes me a troll.

      And no, I did not have anything to do this. In fact, I'm the one that regularly goes through and approves all the (numerous) posts about the same topic when there's major news at Bitcoin companies that are reported as reposts, and removes the vitriolic trolls, but I guess that doesn't fit into your narrative of me being some corrupt troll plant here to destroy Bitcoin from within.

      [–]wuzza_wuzza 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (28子コメント)

      There's a difference between someone expressing an earnest opinion about a shortcoming with bitcoin, and someone who is concern trolling, or making snarky and derisive comments that ruin the spirit of the discussion. This sub is absolutely plagued with trolls of that kind, and they seem to be getting more help lately in the form of mysterious upvotes.

      It's ridiculous that you, as a moderator of /r/bitcoin, are defending a group of people who are actively engaged in destroying any possibility of a civil discussion in this sub. You should step down.

      [–]EzLifeGG 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Forget it, man, this mod has been bought. He's using the same prepared phrases as the trolls.

      [–]gerradp 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      We just secured him a $1.4million dollar grant from Citigroup and the JIDF. He was so successful with the Sandy Hook hoax that he was basically a lock for it immediately after.

      He is a brilliant shill. It's all thanks to the banksters' blood-curdling fear of the Top Minds™" at /r/bitcoin, apparently

      [–]infinite_iteration 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (7子コメント)

      What is concern trolling exactly? And why is whollyhemp suddenly to blame for all trolls? There are plenty of people who like an occasional chuckle on r/buttcoin who are bitcoin supporters. A little self deprecation is healthy. Why is everyone so butthurt about this? I admit I haven't followed it all closely, but it seems like people need to stop taking themselves so seriously.

      Unless you are accusing whollyhemp of specifically orchestrating vote brigades, your complaints come off as bluster.

      [–]ezbr 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (6子コメント)

      https://rebelsiren.wordpress.com/2014/01/22/dispelling-internet-disinformation-tactics-debunking-the-debunkers/

      Read through the 8 points (minus point #1, unless you want to count their hating on Andreas, haha). Nevermind the context of the blog post, this doesn't necessarily only apply to "shills" (whether these are shills is a different discussion entirely). I found this with a google search on troll psychology.

      This subreddit has been absolutely rampant with trolls doing this and worsening the atmosphere of the sub. And it has actually increased lately.

      [–]kd0ocr 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      It doesn't really seem like any of these apply to whollhemp. I guess you could argue point 5) FALSE ASSOCIATION, but that seems somewhat shakey.

      [–]ezbr 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Yeah, I'm not implying anything about whollhemp. He's at the least obviously not a concern troll who trolls day in and day out.

      [–]infinite_iteration 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

      I understand trolling tactics and the purpose of trolls and shills for those who employ them. Reddit is full of them, it is a platform essentially created for them. I still don't understand what "concern trolling" is?

      I hear this phrase used a lot and it seems to be an ad hominem and a distraction, which ironically is a central strategy of trolling- just label someone and then you don't have to address their argument.

      [–]ezbr 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      "Concern troll" seems to be the label that has been put on this type of trolling. I don't see it as an ad hominem, but rather a classification of what's going on. Even if the word might not be correct. What do you think would be a better word? I'd like to find one.

      [–]infinite_iteration 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      "This type of trolling"

      What type of trolling though? I'm sorry I just really don't understand. I'm worried even that I may be concern trolling? I've seen it referenced before, and I did a very light googling that involved looking at urban dictionary, but everything I read was really vague and conflicting. From the context I've seen it used in, it seems to refer to feigning concern to acheive a desired end (example- GOP or Dems opposing filibustering when they are subjected to it because it goes against the spirit of governing, which they clearly care about).

      [–]ezbr 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      What type of trolling though?

      A combination of all the points in that blog post. There has been absolutely blatant trolling of that type on this sub. If you don't feel that you fit into those points in the blog post then don't worry, you're not a "concern troll".

      [–]targetpro 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (35子コメント)

      You are a troll; you're a mod at a sub that's sole purpose is to troll r/bitcoin.

      [–]ArmchairBitcoinist 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I respect what you're doing. This sub is too polarized against imaginary shills/trolls. I've even been acused of being a changetip shill.

      Thank you for spending hours doing more for this community than the people who are throwing acusations.

      [–]TotesMessenger 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      This thread has been linked to from another place on reddit.

      If you follow any of the above links, respect the rules of reddit and don't vote. (Info / Contact)

      [–]sciencehatesyou -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I did not see memo from the lizardmen that we should brigade Coinbase submissions. Our policy is to let Coinbase run its own failboat and make fun of the aftermath. They have been doing a great job.

      Frankly, the note from the CEO sounds entitled and snooty. Why should he expect to make the front page with every fucking hackathon announcement? There are countless hackathons these days, and there have been countless disgruntled coinbase uses air out their dirty laundry here, so I can totally imagine someone downvoting their submission. Or perhaps they used a social media person to manipulate reddit, and got caught, the same way reddit shadowbanned ChangeTip bots as well as the ChangeTip CEO.

      Either way, the OP sounds entitled and off-putting.

      [–]nobodybelievesyou 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (12子コメント)

      This is especially surprising if you consider that last year when we ran the exact same Hackathaon, it got 289 upvotes.

      Your other post about the hackathon here last year got a staggering +1 vote total.

      https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zlk56/psa_less_than_2_weeks_remain_to_submit_your_app/

      Why didn't you mention that one? Oh, right. Because that wouldn't have given you the paranoia platform to get to the front page and edit the link that's already been submitted here three times into your OP.

      [–]EnglishBulldog 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (9子コメント)

      I'm just going to leave this here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1xu0ot/coinbase_launches_bithack_an_online_bitcoin/

      [–]nobodybelievesyou -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (8子コメント)

      I'm not sure why you are leaving that there, when I referenced it in the comment you are replying to.

      You might notice the keyword "other" in my text if you'd bothered to actually read it instead of immediately mashing reply with a smug boner.

      [–]EnglishBulldog 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (7子コメント)

      He was correct in stating their submission got 289 upvotes last year, that's why I submitted it, to show you're just trolling. There is a lot of trolling in this submission.

      [–]nobodybelievesyou -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (6子コメント)

      I was correct in stating that his other submission on the same topic got +1. Again, that keyword "other."

      That isn't trolling. It is just a fact.

      What gets to the front page on reddit is largely dependent on the which subset of the very small group of people who ever bother to browse /new is active when you submit your post.

      It isn't a conspiracy. It is just the dumb way that reddit works.

      I'm not trolling. I'm helpfully trying to educate you on something that should be obvious.

      [–]EnglishBulldog 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (5子コメント)

      If you want to submit facts, submit all of the facts in a way that doesn't skew opinions. You questioned what Brian said and omitted the submission he was referencing. I provided it in an attempt to show transparency.

      [–]nobodybelievesyou 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

      I literally quoted him saying that one of their hackathon submissions got 289 upvotes and provided a counter example where another post on the same subject languished in /new.

      That was literally the entire point of my comment.

      You are literally being intentionally obtuse because you didn't read my comment before going into defeat all trolls mode.

      [–]EnglishBulldog 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

      You're partially correct, I did draw my six shooters when I entered this submission and looked around. It's like a wild west saloon at midnight!

      I don't think I was wrong to provide the thread he was referencing.

      [–]nobodybelievesyou -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      it happens

      [–]EnglishBulldog 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Maybe I jumped the gun on you, I'm sorry if I did, but I go on vacation for a while and suddenly this place is overrun by butts. It's on everyone's tongues, which is scary because that's what they want. They are irrelevant without this place and it is more of an echo chamber than this sub.

      [–]sciencehatesyou 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Nailed it. Entitled little shit stirs up drama to get to the front page.

      [–]EnglishBulldog 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      cough

      [–]yourliestopshere 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Coinbase you rock! Send emails to your users to check out your reddit links. Also of course someone manipulates votes, its sad but true. Doesn't England do this? Pay trolls?

      [–]livefromheaven 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      The mystery of Reddit... My highest ranking posts were some of the dumbest things I've ever said. I think it has more to do with how their algorithm handles quick downvoting after submission.

      [–]Based_gandhi 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      This is the correct answer. OP and some people here seems to think there is a conspiracy against coinbase. He really should have looked up how reddit works before making this grossly misinformed post.

      [–]jratcliff63367 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Very odd. I'm both a mod and a frequent poster. I've never figured out why one post gets a ton of upvotes and another downvoted to oblivion.

      There have been times when I posted some bullshit comment after 8 beers right before I go to bed and, in the morning, it is the top post with hundreds of upvotes.

      Then, other times, I post research that took me weeks to assemble and crickets.

      All I can say, personally, is that I have been a Coinbase customer since February 2013. I have bought and sold hundreds of bitcoins on the service. I recommend it frequently to others.

      I would neither downvote nor remove a post like this.

      I have no clear answers either. Try again??

      [–]ThePiachu 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Well, Reddit voting appears to be favouring posts with more votes. If you post something and it gets a few votes quickly, it will move up and get more votes and so on. If it's downvoted early, it might not be seen by as many people and not get many votes.

      Probably the most reliable way to promote your content and have it seen by the entire subreddit is to use subreddit-specific advertising through Reddit. This should get your posts visible on the top, so more people will see it even if it gets downvoted initially.

      [–]Zyoman 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Only a few people on earth could probably tell you exactly how a message downvote or get penalized under some circumstances. I guess that would be someone working at reddit. Good luck with your hackathon.

      [–]FredAssram 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      You seriously gave zero weight to the theory that there are actually people out there who are expressing their unhappiness with Coinbase? Are you that arrogant and dense?

      Blockchain, Circle, Xapo are all regularly the target of r/bitcoin's wrath.

      Did it seriously never even cross your mind that people might also hate Coinbase?

      [–]warrenlain 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I don't know what is going on but if there is any truth to it, does that mean comments that are pro Coinbase comments get downvoted as well?

      [–]Jhammin 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Two things are holding me back from entering:

      1. I do not have the same amount of free time that I had in college.

      2. I realize the value of a well thought out idea, and if a great idea that I was capable of executing popped into my head? Well, I'm probably going try and capitalize on it myself!

      On a side note, I'm a very happy Coinbase customer and don't understand all the negativity I have noticed directed at you guys.

      [–]corby315 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      It's not that weird, you just haven't got the timing down yet.

      You may have a few haters that get to you early, but you also fall victim to posting when the community is at its lowest.

      Learn the times of the day when traffic is at its highest in /r/bitcoin and you should get more visibility.

      [–]targetpro 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Yep. If you care, (I generally don't) learn these times, then post for max exposure.

      [–]homad 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      well. i for one had my account frozen with no way that i can come up with to get it working. fuck your support by email only. ive given u guys so much fucking info AND MONEY. never felt so disrespected by a company other than twc and Apple.

      [–]OldManToza -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      You should sue.

      [–]tothemoonsands 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I'm wondering if it isn't one of the problems you mentioned above, is it someone who registered for the hackathon who has an interest in limiting the number of people who know about the competition (Thus increasing the likelihood that they win)?

      As messed up as that is, it is a possible concern.

      [–]xd1gital 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I wonder if there is some kind of downvote protection in place? Such as: only allow to downvote if your account is atleast 6 months old and have positive karma. Even though sometimes I wish facebook have a dislike button, but over all only like button seems to prevent trolls

      [–]AManBeatenByJacks 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I saw this on twitter on a tweet by Chris Dixon. Don't know whats going on here but it always seems like a slow news day. Not sure why good stuff isn't making the front page.

      [–]KayRice 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I made a small voting bot as part of an experiment a year ago. I then searched Google and found many articles of people doing exactly the same thing I had done. It's very easy to do, and a lot of people do it. It's stupidly easy to get your own article or to prevent specific other articles from reaching the top of a sub-reddit.

      [–]bitcoinchamp 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      How about hiring a PR firm?

      [–]Louie2001912 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      No worries /u/bdarmstrong. Hire me and I'll fix this. I'm a problem solver and work extremely well with others and also alone.

      [–]Introshine 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      This place is a trollbot invested place.

      [–]dischammer 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Fix your platform customer service Fred. Ignoring valued customers with constant false fraud alert issues drives people away. I'm done and moved on to Circle after repeated attempts for help went unheeded.

      [–]StarMaged 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Something is indeed wrong. Those posts have received several times the number of reports that even controversial posts get. Prior to when you posted this, the first post had 7 reports. Did you piss off some hackers or something?

      [–]bubbasparse 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I up voted your post

      [–]losermcfail 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

      all that KFC and MLB you guys are doing, telling people where they can spend their money etc, you gotta find a way to have unknowability of what is on your platform, because nobody wants to be spied on. i think a lot of the hate thatis being directed to you is about this kind of stuff. oh and the cancelled orders due to 'risk' way after you should have told them. stuff like that.

      [–]kalakalakala 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      How is that their fault? Try running a money service business without doing KYC and AML, and tell us how it went when you're behind bars.

      [–]eburnside 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I'm sure I'll get downvoted but there's a difference between doing proper KYC/AML and just randomly booting people from the platform, causing them losses, failing to give them any recourse, and ignoring their support requests.

      Coinbase in it's current incarnation is a blight on the community.

      If they've screwed you over and you live in California, I recommend filing a DBO 2120 form with the Department of Business Oversight. These guys should never end up on the receiving end of a MSB license.

      [–]losermcfail 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Who cares if it is their fault, they are the face of it, they are sending people emails telling them they can't use their money. Let the government do that then if coinbase doesnt want to take flak for it. Fact is, people dont want to be spied on, and coinbase is spying on their customers. People will choose other businesses obviously but Armstrong wanted to know why people are hating on his company and that is why. Maybe people should hate on the government a little harder, or just leave the USA since it appears to be spiraling hard down into a shit hell police state.

      [–]lucif4 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      How about... maybe you guys are pissing people off with all your AML/KYC bullshit! Nah, couldn't be that!

      [–]Introshine 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Mmmm if you want no AML/KYC goto btc-e - They are just following the "law" in the US.

      [–]borderpatrol -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (5子コメント)

      Why does the CEO of a $75 million dollar company care about reddit posts being downvoted?

      [–]paleh0rse 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Perhaps he's trying to figure out whether posting announcements here on reddit is still worthwhile? Also, as a longtime member of this community, and industry, perhaps he's just genuinely curious/concerned with the current state of this community?

      [–]romad20000 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      perhaps he's just genuinely curious/concerned with the current state of this community?

      From where I'm sitting it's wacky town. So looks pretty normal!

      [–]BitcoinCollege -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      A good CEO is sensible and knows how to deal with it. Brian cares and he is doing well.

      [–]elycamp11 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      He obviously has no idea how reddit works.

      [–]realltchck -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Because he is a self entitled prick?

      [–]Kinitex -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      This sub has become a complete joke. All the users care about is who is now accepting bitcoin, or who is now taking bitcoin donations.

      The absolute most pointless shit possible is what gets upvoted.

      New places accepting bitcoin was news 2 years ago, not in 2015 for fuck sakes.

      [–]CryptoCoinSolutions -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Mr. Armstrong, if you seriously believe that anything that happens on reddit can be considered as data that has an application in business, that it is data that can be analyzed for business purposes ... I mean, WTF dude? This is reddit.

      But that you would come here expecting really serious, talented programmers to be hanging out here waiting with baited breath to jump on your hackathon, I mean ROFL dude, I'm laughing, I'm really, really laughing.

      If this is all you got to pitch your hackathon, WTF are you doing with the many millions of dollars that you've gotten in VC funds?

      Perhaps Terpin could help you out for a few tens of thousands of dollars, you know, advertising ain't free, ain't NO FREE LUNCH young man. :)

      What I suspect is you've pissed off REDDIT itself, either the mods, a group of mods, or some of the principals involved in reddit ... and you are unable to generate the perspectives needed to analyze this at any level. It's hard to see through big stacks of hundred dollar bills, real hard. But you'll figure that out once it's all burned up.

      [–]go1dfish -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      /r/FairShare you say?

      Should I enter that?