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[–]VIOLENT_ORGASMSPositive Failure 40 ポイント41 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Well yeah, it's a fucking coup.

Like the second thing you do in a coup is consolidate power by installing loyal people in important positions and start curtailing dissent.

[–]crash_over-rideTest Alliance Please Ignore 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (6子コメント)

TEST is recruiting. Reset is a go.

[–]dertydanDixon Cox Butte Preservation Society 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (5子コメント)

we're sending a few your way btw

[–]fuzzyspringDixon Cox Butte Preservation Society 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

thepurge.jpg

[–]dertydanDixon Cox Butte Preservation Society 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

well that and people from brave saying "hay i have 12mil SP can i be in dix"

no sweetheart :]

but dreddit :]

is recruiting :]

[–]CharmideTest Alliance Please Ignore 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Only happens because you have bryan :3

[–]dertydanDixon Cox Butte Preservation Society 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

yeah i keep telling him

"nah bro hes cool tho" isn't a prereq for joining our corp :/

[–]VIOLENT_ORGASMSPositive Failure -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

SCRAF IS RECRUITING

[–]TohrazerGoonswarm Federation 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (5子コメント)

CEO's representing 20% of membership at best literally steal leadership from the real Brave King Lychton, then delete posts with dissenting opinions, new leader answers questions by dodging questions - do they REALLY think they are going to be able to hold on to power in this situation?

not to forget the 4 month old newbro moment lawyer who is going to sue everyone for listening to a soundcloud recording..

This entire thing is a dog and monkey show.

[–]NullSecHoboGuristas Pirates -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Well, considering that 99% of the remaining 80% are in BNI, the overthrown dude's corp, it's not as skewed as it seems.

Also, the ~20% are of the about half corps that have publicly admitted to voting to oust him. That number goes up if you assume that not all the ones who are staying quiet voted "no".

And finally, check the corp count. Again, not a 80-20 split.

Yes, I think they'll get away with it. Because Lychton just does not have the depth needed for the role anymore. Do these new guys? No idea :)

[–]TohrazerGoonswarm Federation 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (3子コメント)

that makes it even more skewed, since the odds are that the vast majority of the remaining 80% still support Lychton, and lets face it, without BNI, brave as an alliance are Nothing

These guys have likely been moving 10 man corps into the alliance for awhile to stage this coup

The way this went down is counter to brave's culture and is the most un-brave thing I have seen come out of brave ever.

whether or not you think Lychton was the guy for a job, the manner in which this was done is complete bullshit and the BNI members deserve to have their voices heard.

[–]VIOLENT_ORGASMSPositive Failure 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

whether or not you think Lychton was the guy for a job, the manner in which this was done is complete bullshit and the BNI members deserve to have their voices heard.

bam

[–]NullSecHoboGuristas Pirates -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yes, presumably - since that 80% are in BNI.

Whether they moved corps in for this coup or not, no idea, since I don't have an ear to the ground (or a horse in the race, for that matter..) but this suggests maybe not: http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Brave_Collective/corporations

As for the line members having their voices heard, are you new to null sec politics? As cute as that notion is, once you get pulled into the meta, deals are done in smoky back rooms by a handful of movers and shakers. Brave pretended to not be involved in the meta at their own peril and became passive consumers of their fate as a result.

[–]TohrazerGoonswarm Federation 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You are wrong, Eve is a perfect democracy - The members have the constant capability to simply vote with their feet. You can proclaim you are the grand king of the football pitch and refuse to delegate or listen to your team members, but the players can simply take their balls and go home/elsewhere.

That is why uprising/coup's in Eve require the popular vote.

[–]Gallente_Goldminer 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Control the medium, Control the minds

[–]Mino_NoudSock Puppet Federation 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Censoring posts? Say it isn't so.

[–]CharmideTest Alliance Please Ignore 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

EVERYBODY CHANGE THEIR EXECUTOR VOTE TO "CHARMIDE INCORPORATED"

[–]JayRizzo03Test Alliance Please Ignore 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

pls no

[–]StainWagginGoonswarm Federation 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you dont like the leadership change you know where the door is. Deal with it. You put them in charge and they made decisions. Figure it out.

[–]C4plesTactical Narcotics Team 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Who would be mad about it? The dude seems like a twat.

It's not like anybody new could really do any worse anyway.

[–]YossarianHBrave Collective 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Also unsticky-ing Lychtons statement <24h after it was posted and replacing it with a lawyerspeak sticky that has a lot of words but doesnt say anything is just so fucking unrespectful I hardly have words for it.

[–]Quietly-Confident 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

As someone on the outside looking in on current 0.0 politics, is /r/bravenewbies the official forum for that alliance? You'd think they'd have internal forums somewhere less public given their size and numbers.

All that'll happen is someone will start a new sub if people feel they're being censored.

[–]stevedaltonbestBat Country 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why post in an echo-chamber where only twenty people might see it, when you can post on Reddit where the whole world can see it? (At least til the mods take it down). Everybody has a valid and utterly unique opinion that requires it's own thread.

[–]BlaggyIvy League 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think they do, but all the drama needs to be on reddit. How else can we spectate?

[–]VIOLENT_ORGASMSPositive Failure 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They're supposed to have internal forums, but IT hadn't gotten around to it yet.

Not that it'd matter, people would just spill over to here to either farm drama or maintain some sense of accountability and transparency.

[–]incubi21Brave Collective 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We had one but nobody used it. Supposedly another is in the works.

[–]ExF-AltrueBrave Collective 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We are all evil and we feed on tears.

Please tear more :D

On other news, you're posting on our subreddit, of course you'll get censored. Try to post on other alliances reddit and see how it goes. People are poking at us for an equal proportion of reddit tears and content. This has to change.

[–]cruftboxBrave Collective 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Dear anonymous coward,

I am a mod on /r/bravenewbies

You are full of shit. The sub is currently full of tinfoil, conspiracy, and drama.

Go back under the bridge where you belong.

Love,

-Dunk

[–]VIOLENT_ORGASMSPositive Failure 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (8子コメント)

I mean you could always screenshot the mod log :)

[–]cruftboxBrave Collective -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Of course I could, but that would betray the trust of others. I don't like to do that.

You can count the number of drama threads on the sub yourself. Saying that 'countercoup' posts are being removed is demonstrably false.

Good debate is healthy. Personal attacks are not. Slurs are not. Spamming is not.

[–]VIOLENT_ORGASMSPositive Failure 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Of course I could, but that would betray the trust of others. I don't like to do that.

Why would it do that? What could the other mods of /r/bravenewbies possibly have to hide in the list of removed posts if there's nothing afoot?

[–]bbandolierBrave Collective 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They probably have something to hide, sure, but Dunk Dinkle ain't getting in the mud for no man, that's why we love him. He is the Paladin of Brave.

[–]cruftboxBrave Collective 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Are you accusing me of lying?

There is plenty there with removing inappropriate flair, bans due to slurs or personal attacks, etc. We try to do that quietly. We are not in the public shaming business, as popular as that is with some.

[–]VIOLENT_ORGASMSPositive Failure 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, I'm saying if you have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to hide.

There is plenty there with removing inappropriate flair, bans due to slurs or personal attacks, etc. We try to do that quietly. We are not in the public shaming business, as popular as that is with some.

If you have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to hide. In the current climate, with two new mods added a mere 24 hours ago, exposing a few shit comments isn't going to hurt anyone. Accountability is one of the keystones of Brave, after all.

[–]DrakeIddonGallente Federation 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Are you accusing me of lying?

Yes

[–]dertydanDixon Cox Butte Preservation Society 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

[–]VhaineGoonswarm Federation 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

In before /r/trueBrave becomes a thing. Also...

[–]CharmideTest Alliance Please Ignore 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

[–]dr_walrusWormholer 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

democracy> 10% of playercount representatives kick alliance leader, lel.

[–]PawsaldoWAFFLES. 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

God damn it brave, I keep running out of popcorn...

In other news Pandemic Horde is recruiting

[–]OneWarning13CONCORD 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

You sure that's the Absolute Truth?

[–]VIOLENT_ORGASMSPositive Failure 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

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[–]OneWarning13CONCORD 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

That is goddamn majestic

[–]VIOLENT_ORGASMSPositive Failure 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

please feel free to donate to the Eva Vesto Dickbutt Generation Fund.

[–]cruftboxBrave Collective 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I thought Dreddit was recruiting...

[–]NullSecHoboGuristas Pirates -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah it's actually a fascinating case study of a benevolent coup.

They even have their Glenn Beck: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bravenewbies/comments/31qec2/some_numbers_about_our_alliance_some_info/

Confusion over "are we a democracy, dictatorship or a republic?": http://www.reddit.com/r/Bravenewbies/comments/31ouf9/line_member_appeal_to_leadership_for_alliance/

Heartburn over "who's really pulling the strings?": http://www.reddit.com/r/Bravenewbies/comments/31pf9h/if_malanek_is_the_new_exec_why_is_annas_alt_corp/

And much more!

[–]ShaqsquatchPandemic Legion 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sick of heavy handed moderation and shitty coups by bureaucrats? Try /r/PandemicHorde today, you don't even have to move out of HED!

[–]fuzzyspringDixon Cox Butte Preservation Society 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

MAN UP AND POST ON YOUR REDDIT MAIN ABOUT IT YOU COWARD.

[–]WDadadeBrave Collective 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Personally, I don't mind coups if they bring some much needed change and stability. Problem is, currently this one hasn't delivered yet.

[–]ElleihaSpaceship Samurai 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

It has literal been 1 day.

[–]fuzzyspringDixon Cox Butte Preservation Society 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

People in BRAVE expect A LOT.

[–]WDadadeBrave Collective 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Meh, if it takes one night to overthrow the guy who's been leading your alliance for two years, a simple plan of action for the week within 24 hours of the "coup" would be welcome.

[–]ECM_SUPREMESalvager -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

step 1: make a rebellion corporation "C O U P B O I S"
step 2: make an alliance mail saying how it's a coup and the line members are being tricked
step 3: poach members like no tomorrow
step 4: battle brave/camp them until people get pissed and leave

brave failscades

reap the benefits of drama

the evil coup is no more and a kickass civil war just took place