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[–]PrincessLadyWoman 2668 ポイント2669 ポイント  (466子コメント)

“We should try kissing, I haven’t been smoking for six months,” he told her. “Then we can kiss after the mission and compare it. Let’s do the experiment now.” He then attempted to yank her out of the line of sight of the two cameras that kept a constant surveillance on the crew and its activities. He aggressively kissed and manhandled her twice, even as she protested loudly.

At the end of the mission, Valery Gushchin, the Russian scientific coordinator, claimed that the brawl was a “friendly fight” and that Lapierre had “ruined the mission, the atmosphere, by refusing to be kissed.”

... Zounds.

[–]nemorina 2386 ポイント2387 ポイント  (338子コメント)

The fact that he tried to hide his assault from the cameras means he knew what he was doing was innapropriate. What an asshole and then his brotherman tried to blame her. Another asshole.

[–]d0dg3rrabbit 992 ポイント993 ポイント  (301子コメント)

The article seemed to imply to me that this behavior is commonplace in the russian culture. That deeply disturbs me.

[–]fakestamaever 372 ポイント373 ポイント  (25子コメント)

Didn't I see Putin do that to President Underwood's wife?

[–]Neebat3 180 ポイント181 ポイント  (21子コメント)

I'm pretty sure you're thinking of Petrov and Hillary Clinton.

[–]WhatWeOnlyFantasize 213 ポイント214 ポイント  (17子コメント)

[–]mykibi 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Is this a scene from FF7?

[–]medhop 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Fast & Furious 7 or Final Fantasy 7?

[–]ZombieHoratioAlger 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Both. The stories are pretty similar, tbh.

[–]ghastlyactions 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's because they reused a lot of the old cinematics from FF7 when they were making FF7. If you look closely, there's one scene left in where Vin Diesel rides a chocobo. It was originally supposed to be an Aston Martin but they forgot to replace it in post.

[–]EvilGiraffeDemon 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (2子コメント)

That expression shows weakness, America doesn't need that.

[–]Neebat3 198 ポイント199 ポイント  (87子コメント)

There seems to be a correspondence between cultures which believe men cannot and should not be required to rein in their sexual urges, and those which oppose homosexuality.

[–]sibeliushelp 45 ポイント46 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The country with the highest gay porn searches is Pakistan lol

[–]JeMaintiendrai 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lot of homosexuals not getting laid.

[–]karma1337a 327 ポイント328 ポイント  (72子コメント)

Well, yeah. Homophobia is a straight guy's fear that men will treat him the way he treats women.

[–]sosomething 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Whoa! You're right!

[–]badsingularity 90 ポイント91 ポイント  (16子コメント)

Putin asked someone if he could look at their Super Bowl ring, and put it on. Then just smiled, and never gave it back. It is common.

[–]TekLWar 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Wait, did this actually happen?

[–]MUTILATORer 97 ポイント98 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Yeah:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/22429359/patriots-owner-robert-kraft-vladimir-putin-stole-my-super-bowl-ring

"I took out the ring and showed it to [Putin], and he put it on and he goes, 'I can kill someone with this ring,'" Kraft said at an event this week, via the New York Post. "I put my hand out and he put it in his pocket, and three KGB guys got around him and walked out."

[–]FeetEverywhere 136 ポイント137 ポイント  (2子コメント)

When confronted later about the ring, Putin is reported to have denied ever recieving the ring. Later, when confronted with photographic evidence, Putin stated that he has since lost the ring.

UN officials report that they tried to give Putin detention, but we're interrupted when Putin's parents called the UN and told them that detention was "bullshit," and picked him up early.

[–]TianTianthepanda 60 ポイント61 ポイント  (1子コメント)

That last part doesn't sound quite right, but I'm going to accept it as true anyway.

[–]masksnjunk 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"If it's on the internet it's true." - my idiot brother

[–]Goggles2114 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (1子コメント)

What an asshole.

[–]This_is_for_you_pal 33 ポイント34 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Damn it must feel good to be a gangster.

[–]voidaq 629 ポイント630 ポイント  (146子コメント)

It's not, it's commonplace in the Russian mafia culture. Doing this anywhere far from government protection to a Russian woman would get him very disappeared very quick. This shit is totally not acceptable in non criminal/government protected areas.

[–]captainludwig 82 ポイント83 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Are you joking? Have you even done any research on the matter? There have been less than 6 cases of sexual harrassment succesfully prosecuted in Russia in its entire history:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/2470310/Sexual-harrassment-okay-as-it-ensures-humans-breed-Russian-judge-rules.html

The unnamed executive, a 22-year-old from St Petersburg, had been hoping to become only the third woman in Russia's history to bring a successful sexual harassment action against a male employer.

This article was from 2008.

"If we had no sexual harassment we would have no children," the judge ruled.

This is not on onion article.

[–]sethboy662 419 ポイント420 ポイント  (116子コメント)

Your comment makes it even worse. You're saying that it's normal in government and criminal activities (Is their any difference between the two in Russia?) while saying if anyone did it anywhere else they'd be taken away and murdered silently.

[–]therealworldsux 287 ポイント288 ポイント  (80子コメント)

That is Russia

[–]WhatWeOnlyFantasize 342 ポイント343 ポイント  (42子コメント)

[–]BOLOGNA_FUCKER 246 ポイント247 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Russia people is like black but wrong color by accident

lol'd too goddamn hard.

[–]josh4050 88 ポイント89 ポイント  (9子コメント)

My Russian politics teacher in college said that statistically Russia is a large cold Nigeria

[–]the_salubrious_one 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (5子コメント)

How so? You have my ears.

[–]Canigetahellyea 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Similar amounts of crime/ corruption I'd assume.

[–]Beloved_King_Jong_Un 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Reminds me of this joke.

During the cold war the U.S. trains one of their best agents as a double agent to go to Russia and infiltrate them. He is trained in everything Russian so he can blend in as one. They teach him how to perfectly speak Russian, how to drink as much as a Russian and how to dance like a Russian.

After he arrives in Russia he enters a bar and talks to the barkeeper and asks for a drink. The barkeeper gets him his drink, but says: "You speak like a Russian, but you are no Russian." The double agent is surprised, but ignores it. He takes the bottle the barkeeper was still holding and empties it. The barkeeper looks impressed, but says: "You speak like a Russian, you drink like a Russian, but you are no Russian." The double agent is surprised again, so he goes to dance with the guests and dances his best russian dance. Everyone is impressed, but when he gets back to the bar, the barkeeper says: "You speak like a Russian, you drink like a Russian, you dance like a Russian but you certainly are no Russian." Angrily the double agent asks: "Well, how do you know I'm not Russian?" "Because there are no black Russians."

[–]SeraphsScourge 57 ポイント58 ポイント  (10子コメント)

As a European... I'm ok with this.

[–]WompyTomperson 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (7子コメント)

As an American, yeah it's true.

[–]JT91733 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (6子コメント)

As a marine yeah, wondering about about teacher though...

[–]donpapillon 55 ポイント56 ポイント  (33子コメント)

In Russia, mafia protects you, if you're not in mafia?

Dafuq, it makes no sense.

[–]vuhleeitee 104 ポイント105 ポイント  (22子コメント)

Keeping crime in their areas down is a pretty sure fire way of keeping people from reporting your own criminal activity. It's a pretty common tactic used in organized crime. Don't know if Russians use it, though.

[–]balancespec2 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (20子コメント)

Does all organized crime start as vigilanteism?

[–]FeetEverywhere 66 ポイント67 ポイント  (11子コメント)

It's about force, really. All governments started as a bunch of people who could kick the shit out of everyone else. Same for the mob. And when you're the strongest group on the block you can make the rules, so makes sense to make rules that help you out.

[–]leshake 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hence "protection money." If you get shaken down, they will usually protect their income source.

[–]HoMaster 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Bull fucking shit. Russia is rife with machismo bullshit. I'm in Russia at the moment.

[–]handtohandwombat 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep, was born there. Watched someone get murdered over a smoke when I was 5. They play super fast and loose with the sanctity of life over there. I don't like a lot of Russians....

[–]BlackEastwood 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't know if the article implies it, rather then the response she received from the Canadian Space Agency, explaining that it is common in Russian culture.

[–]einperson 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The way I can explain it is that in the US you have your many beer-drinking men, frat-type guys that grow up and have a certain arrogance about them, who will probably say or so something stupid once in a while about a woman, but generally follow social norms.

Those social norms respecting women are just not there in Russia, in the Balkans, or much of Eastern Europe. That behavior is accepted. No filter. It is troubling

[–]IBeJizzin 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Man, so many assholes floating around in space

[–]za72 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Would you say perhaps that we are surrounded by assholes?

[–]Denmu 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Keep firing assholes!

[–]Pinoth 41 ポイント42 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Nah, he wanted to kiss in a secluded space so he could have some privacy.

[–]USonic 51 ポイント52 ポイント  (1子コメント)

So romantic.

[–]FireFromTheWire 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Insert jenny zack bullshit here

[–]Rathadin 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think the female astronaut touched his penis a little though.

[–]Bi0sHift 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (15子コメント)

Yeah I'm sure if this was my SO up there, you would of seen the first nut kicking in space.

[–]KnightOfAshes 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Sorry, but screw SOs. If I was the one getting assaulted in space I'd break his balls right there.

[–]gaunt79 51 ポイント52 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I think his point was that his SO is a no-nonsense kind of lady that wouldn't think twice about physically defending herself. Or maybe that he would catch the next Soyuz up and deliver the blow himself?

[–]tones2013 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

its interesting to think about how a physical fight might go in zero g. I think bare hands might be very difficult since it would be impossible to plant yourself.

[–]My_Private_Life 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think this is a big possibility in the future of mankind and should be explored now to figure out what the fuck to do.

[–]meme-com-poop 313 ポイント314 ポイント  (5子コメント)

TIL "In space, no one can hear you scream," is actually a Russian pick up line.

[–]superfish1 121 ポイント122 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Luckily, this was in Russia, so the incident was caught on the dashcam of a Lada.

[–]BostonJohn17 200 ポイント201 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Her lips are an have always been an intrinsic part of the Russian Federation.

[–]Absenceofavoid 33 ポイント34 ポイント  (1子コメント)

They're just protecting all the ethnic Russian genes in her lips.

[–]ShangZilla 45 ポイント46 ポイント  (0子コメント)

She was a fascist anyway.

[–]zombieviper 44 ポイント45 ポイント  (2子コメント)

She should have very friendly bit his fucking nose off.

[–]slick8086 37 ポイント38 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I kinda wish that read, Lapierre had "ruined the mission, the atmosphere, by refusing to be kissed stabbing her assailant."

[–]pisio 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You forgot "in the dick".

[–]bdpf 56 ポイント57 ポイント  (51子コメント)

Just what is a friendly fight?

In over 70 years never had a friendly, all I wanted to do is put the other guy down!

It might have been friendly or joke to the other guy but I was serious.

[–]Felixer86 74 ポイント75 ポイント  (23子コメント)

In Scotland I've had fights with friends or other people while smashed, just pat each other on the back after and drink a pint together. Experienced similar things in NZ.

[–]THEJAZZMUSIC 66 ポイント67 ポイント  (19子コメント)

Experienced similar things as a Canadian.

Teenage boys are basically chimpanzees in t-shirts.

[–]well_golly 76 ポイント77 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Shirts, eh?

Listen to you, bragging about your fancy high-falutin' circle of friends.

[–]Yeti_Poet 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Son, is there something you want to tell us?

[–]GamerAsylum 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That he wrestles with his friends without any shirts on............ or underwear.

[–]SDAdam 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

For sure, I grew up playing hockey in Canada and throwing down with your buddies, on or off the ice was completely forgivable as long as beers were had after (once we were over age... of course...).

[–]joeker334 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is this guy a dad or what?

[–]I_AlsoDislikeThat 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're seventy and have never wrestled a buddy before?

[–]My-fucking-throwaway 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Have you ever wanted to put the other guy down but not seriously injure him unless you absolutely had to? That is a friendly fight.

You know, those times when you could have beaten their head in with a brick but didn't because you didn't want the guilt of someone death on your mind.

[–]EndlessIke 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

yay friends!

[–]elligirl 1196 ポイント1197 ポイント  (67子コメント)

That's right, kids. There's even assholes in space. Nowhere is safe from Assholery.

[–]Abaddon314159 66 ポイント67 ポイント  (4子コメント)

[–]boshtrich 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Who knew there is even a sub about people being jerks specifically in space? Reddit amazes me sometimes

[–]AnnaBonanno 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Still blue. YEAAAAAH!

[–]ferrets_bueller 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Everywhere humans go, assholes follow.

[–]davi00a1[🍰] 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Heil Adler

[–]RifleGun 298 ポイント299 ポイント  (33子コメント)

That's right, kids. There's even Russians in space. Nowhere is safe from Gopnikery.

FTFY.

[–]yuckyucky 217 ポイント218 ポイント  (28子コメント)

Gopnik (Russian: го́пник)[1] is a pejorative term and a social slur used in Russia and post-Soviet countries (including Israel) to refer to young lower-class suburban male dwellers (usually under 30 years of age) coming from families of poor education and income, somewhat similar to British chavs, spides or neds sub-cultures.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gopnik

[–]Alkpwn77 47 ポイント48 ポイント  (2子コメント)

That's interesting.

[–]Is_anyone_listening 46 ポイント47 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I doubt an astronaut would be poorly educated and lower income.

[–]Slinkyfest2005 187 ポイント188 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Then he shouldn't act like a fucking chav.

[–]forkinanoutlet 146 ポイント147 ポイント  (2子コメント)

u wot comr8?

[–]yuckyucky 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

he doesn't even have that excuse

[–]RagingNerdaholic 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (7子コメント)

ie.: Russian rednecks?

[–]ghoti_styx1 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Rednecks are rural, gopniks are suburban.

[–]yuckyucky 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

yes, but with a connotation of youth and possible criminality

[–]kalmit 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (4子コメント)

All assholes are in space.

[–]spjvmp34viw3j3r 263 ポイント264 ポイント  (23子コメント)

[–]Decoy- 35 ポイント36 ポイント  (5子コメント)

What is this show, oh my god.

[–]brush_your_cat 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (4子コメント)

The Brass Eye Special: [Pedogeddon!](www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcU7FaEEzNU). British TV news spoof.

[–]memeship 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Tip: URLs have to start with "http://" to format correctly.

[–]ziggitypumziggitypim 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is hilarious!

[–]MortalJohn 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

omg thank you so much, this is amazing

[–]RedBeardedWhiskey 481 ポイント482 ポイント  (17子コメント)

I don't know if this is more offensive to Russians or to women.

In before: "Russian women."

[–]Space-Money[🍰] 102 ポイント103 ポイント  (8子コメント)

In before OP can't in before

[–]Leaftail 37 ポイント38 ポイント  (3子コメント)

OP can't in before

[–]FootofGod 33 ポイント34 ポイント  (1子コメント)

In after OP can't in before

[–]sumguy720 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (0子コメント)

On a scale of in to after, OP can't.

[–]NiceUsernameBro 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (1子コメント)

From my understanding if it were a russian woman he would have been the first russian to get stabbed in space.

[–]isonlegemyuheftobmed 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Canadian and Russian and Id say it feels pretty shitty

[–]shadowban4quinn 86 ポイント87 ポイント  (1子コメント)

ITT: everyone thinks this happened in space. They didn't even read the title.

[–]nidrach 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Welcome to TIL.

[–]bendershead 129 ポイント130 ポイント  (17子コメント)

Very disappointed in the CSA official's response.

[–]account9147 64 ポイント65 ポイント  (11子コメント)

Everyone likes to laud space exploration for how niceties between space-faring countries are maintained despite political conflict.

But I think the CSA's reaction is a result of the same phenomenon. It isn't that space-faring is above political conflict. It's that it is untenable to allow any conflict that might endanger the well-being of the 6 people trapped in a metal tube up in space, now or in the future. If Russia drops out of the ISS, or refuses to take CSA astronauts, or refuses to work with CSA's astronauts that are on the ISS, that's damaging the entire planet's space program. I'm not saying the CSA made the right decision here, but I can't say which decision I would have made if put in the same spot.

Also, fun fact: NASA took the time to develop an entire manual on negotiating with Russians, so I have a feeling they've put a decent amount of time analyzing Russian behavior.

[–]StraightTalkExpress 48 ポイント49 ポイント  (6子コメント)

From digging around this story, it appears that the purpose of this Russian experiment was to study wtf happens when you shove a bunch of people in a space station sized tube for 6 months. They weren't actually training to go to space or anything.

http://www.erces.com/journal/articles/archives/volume2/v02/v03.htm#_ftn30

The experiment attracted international attention as several crimes were committed in the station. Two Russian astronauts committed battery, assault and attempted murder and one of them –the Russian commander- also sexually assaulted and harassed Judith Lapierre[26]. Russian officials tried to minimize these incidents but the Canadian reaction against the sexual assault virtually derived in a diplomatic conflict[27].

At several occasions during the 110-day experiment, Judith Lapierre reported that she feared she would be sexually attacked[28]. However, Russian authorities did nothing to protect her, in part because they were interested in studying human reaction, including criminal and deviant behavior, to isolation in outer space[29].

These were not isolated incidents. Although kept highly confidential, similar deviant acts occurred in other outer space missions[34]. Because of its proportions and the attention it received in the media[35], the 1999 incidents influenced the negotiation and drafting of the Code of Conduct for the International Space Station and shaped the criminal justice response envisioned for dealing with criminal incidents in the International Space Station. These incidents show that human missions and settlements in outer space are very likely to have a significantly high degree of occurrence[36].

I mean, I feel bad for Ms. LaPierre, but it appears that it may have been shrugged off less because it was "part of the Russian culture" and more because "part of the Russian experiment".

[–]KarnickelEater 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (5子コメント)

These incidents show that human missions and settlements in outer space are very likely to have a significantly high degree of occurrence

I read that sentence five times - it still seems to be broken... unless it really wanted to say what it says, but I think not. I think that's a consequence of trying to be too clever in your expressions.

[–]Vox_Imperatoris 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I can't stop reading that acronym as Confederate States of America.

[–]BizarroCullen 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's why they lost the civil war

[–]chakrablocker 525 ポイント526 ポイント  (38子コメント)

a woman that has excelled in every way asked of her, still treated like fucking meat.

[–]iloveurbumbum 136 ポイント137 ポイント  (10子コメント)

And still not heard. Appalling. Shame on Canada.

[–]Murgie 156 ポイント157 ポイント  (6子コメント)

For what? Hinting to her that it would be "unwise" to voice objection to the events while she was still in Moscow?

It's not like the CSA was actually anywhere near the goddamn experiment, or in any position to help her. Her only connection to the CSA was a research grant, they payed to fly her to Moscow, and that was the end of the agencies involvement in the experiment. She wasn't an employee, they didn't send her to Moscow, she independently chose to go to Moscow and decided to ask for government funding after that decision had been made. There is literally nothing they legally could have done to assist her, other than paying for transportation, which they did anyway after she decided not to quit along with the Japanese man.

They had as much influence over what happens in Moscow as you do. They can't legally extract her, and nobody is reliant on Canada for shuttle launches, or economics, or military power, or anything.

So perhaps you should save some blame for the people committing the actions, watching the actions on bloody camera as they occur with full authority to end the experiment, and the people claiming that she "ruined the mission".

You know, the people who actually did something wrong, instead of the people unable to prevent others from doing something wrong.

[–]Hautamaki 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (1子コメント)

She's being heard now, now that's she back home in Canada and not still in the heart of Russia. Which is just common sense, really.

[–]prplx 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (0子コメント)

She is being heard now.. 15 years later. I am Canadian, follow news, and have some interest in space exploration. Never heard of that story before. So it's not like the CSA made a big deal out of it when she came back home, publicly anyway.

[–]Boxscape 110 ポイント111 ポイント  (50子コメント)

"That kind of behavior is normal for Russians"

[–]spongebobromboidpant 209 ポイント210 ポイント  (46子コメント)

My sociopathic Russian-Ukrainian coworker uses that a lot.

She'll do or say abusive or completely inappropriate shit to others at work and then claim it was just a "cultural misunderstanding" or "Russians are just more direct and Canadians are oversensitive." But if you flat out tell her that what she said to you was unacceptable or tell her to leave you alone and stop badgering you about stuff that doesn't affect her work, she'll run to the boss crying and claiming that you're threatening and sexually harassing her.

... it's at this point that I now pull out my phone and record every interaction with her. She behaves so much better on camera and the lying is nearly non-existent. Luckily, I only might have to talk to her once a month now. Everyone else at work also fears working with her, but because she's most likely sleeping with our boss, we can't do much about it.

Time to find another job, eh?

/end rant

[–]Boxscape 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (11子コメント)

Sorry to hear that.

[–]spongebobromboidpant 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Hey, no matter what, at this time next year, I'll be packing my stuff up and leaving. My contract ends then and I've got offers elsewhere.

Given the daily stress, anything but here sounds better.

[–]Boxscape 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (6子コメント)

What do you do?

[–]spongebobromboidpant 44 ポイント45 ポイント  (5子コメント)

PhD student. Academia is all sorts of fucked up.

Yes, my Principle Investigator is sleeping with one of his grad students. Yup. Lots of ethics.

[–]totalyrespecatbleguy 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (4子コメント)

First of all I am so sorry about your bitch of a coworker, and second of all as a ukranian american I am flat out the opposite of this. Tldr: We're not all assholes, just some of us

[–]Swardington 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Either find a new job, or start sleeping with that boss's boss.

[–]moeburn 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I've been told on more than one occasion by Russians who support anti-gay laws that it's "just a different culture".

[–]sigsayaw 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"just a different culture."

Justice Scalia thinks this as well.

[–]SOL-Cantus 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

My Russian co-worker is wry, and very blunt when she wants to be, but neither she, nor similar folks from former USSR/East Block countries I've met have ever said that things like the cosmonaut's behavior are appropriate. It's not a cultural thing, it's the same corruption problem Russia's been dealing with for decades. For the same reason we decry the behavior of rich and/or privileged folks in the West, Russia has to deal with the folks who came out of the USSR's fall with too many connections.

[–]WhenSnowDies 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lest you think education or accomplishments are a barometer of anything personal.

Being a shit stain transcends age, race, income, education, gender, era, anything really.

[–]ashamanflinn 42 ポイント43 ポイント  (1子コメント)

In a closed environment, a feminist approach, "the approach of being a partner... that I am equal, I can do what you do"—that doesn't work, Gushin said. "The expectations of mens crew for a woman arriving is different. They want to help her, they want to be knights for her that save her, they could be even children from her. But they don't need one more equal partner."

What the fucking fuck

[–]DongQuixote1 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's an anecdote later in the article about Russian astronauts greeting a woman arriving on the ISS with an apron. That's some pure-strain sexism right there.

[–]blametheboogie 163 ポイント164 ポイント  (36子コメント)

That dude should have gone down in history as the first person ever to be spaced.

[–]A-rav 84 ポイント85 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Float him

[–]CrustyCoconut 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

that show really grew on me

[–]hwyhypnotized 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (1子コメント)

My thought was you should really go out of your way not to piss off the others if there is the possibility of being on opposite sides of the airlock...

[–]blametheboogie 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Like they say common sense isn't common.

[–]slowmoon 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (14子コメント)

Firefly predicts Russian asshats in space. Adelai Niska somehow looks Nazi, Soviet, and Imperial Japanese all at once.

[–]Mastrcapn 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (11子コメント)

What's with the Team Fortress 2 medic glasses? Are those a real thing, or are they just designed to make you look bat shit evil-insane?

[–]paper_liger 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

those are actually just a throwback to earlier designs of glasses. Ben Franklin for instance wore a pair very similar.

[–]ShallowBasketcase 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Oh, they're real.

And they're spectacles.

[–]AndoDaan 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Your face is a spectacle.

[–]bakedchicken23 461 ポイント462 ポイント  (36子コメント)

My 5 seconds of Internet fame. I live with the guy who wrote this article. This is the closest I will ever be to significant.

[–]jackblack2323 816 ポイント817 ポイント  (12子コメント)

Nope still not significant

[–]hoochyuchy 138 ポイント139 ポイント  (6子コメント)

He never said he was significant, only close.

[–]Madonkadonk 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (2子コメント)

To quote spaceballs:

I am your father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate.

What's that make us?

Absolutely nothing!

[–]ksamim 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Which is what you are about to become!

[–]Clientkill 44 ポイント45 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Vice used to be pretty awesome, but lately the writers really seem to make issues seem different than what they are, douse them with fallacy, and wrap it up and ship it under the guise of "fringe reporting". It seems plenty of people on reddit agree, too. It's sad, I think it really had potential.

[–]MystikIncarnate 283 ポイント284 ポイント  (82子コメント)

The response from the canadian space agency is appalling. This is the first time that I feel truly ashamed for the reaction of my government and it's agencies, in regards to a matter so serious.

Sexual assault is not a joke; and it should not be disregarded in this manner. I don't care if it's taboo to russians. It should be completely unacceptable to Canadians for anyone to have to deal with sexual assault; nevermind our own countrymen.

[–]AuntBettysNutButter 128 ポイント129 ポイント  (25子コメント)

This is the first time that I feel truly ashamed for the reaction of my government and it's agencies

Oh geez, I feel bad for all the far smellier shit you'll discover as you continue on in life. Our government's done more than its fair share of assholery.

[–]entropydecreaser 96 ポイント97 ポイント  (19子コメント)

Residential schools, the living conditions on First Nations reserves, Japanese internment camps, the Chinese head tax, the Chinese labour on the Pacific Railway, "None is too many," turning back the Komagata Maru, the High Arctic relocation, the (current) Catholic school situation in Ontario, Bill 101, etc...

As a Canadian, there is plenty to be proud about, but also plenty to be deeply ashamed about.

[–]Pufflehuffy 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You really don't even have to go that far back. There's been a lot of shit in the last 5 years... even in the last couple.

[–]prplx 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You forgot the war measure act.

[–]mrbooze 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's a whole lot of First Nations people tapping their feet angrily right now.

[–]TekLWar 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (3子コメント)

...Guys, you're shattering the careful created Illusion of Canada that the internet has built up in my mind for the last 10 years...

[–]aabbccbb 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (9子コメント)

This is the first time that I feel truly ashamed for the reaction of my government and it's agencies

Have you looked at the native reservations lately? :(

[–]UAZaqwert 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (7子コメント)

In a perfect world yes, but international politics can be quite tricky and governments think pragmatically. Ruining the relationship with the Russian space program is simply not worth one woman's minor assault. It sounds really harsh, but it's true. If you were actually responsible for running a country you'd probably see things differently. You can afford to be outraged by every little thing, they can't.

It's not a perfect world but they make the decisions they do for reasons.

[–]tekdemon 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I don't think what happened was OK but I can definitely see this spiraling into a huge international incident since Canada would basically have to call Russia's space program a bunch of sex offenders which I'm guessing would have resulted in quite the international blowup.

[–]banditkeith 40 ポイント41 ポイント  (19子コメント)

As a public servant, i can tell you that the response of the csa is far, far out of line with respect to the code of values and ethics in the public service. They should have had her back, and I'm appalled they didn't. Sexual harassment is taken very seriously, and her superiors should have supported her and seen this situation dealt with, not told her that hey, sometimes Russians are a bit rapey so get over it.

[–]Murgie 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

and her superiors should have supported her and seen this situation dealt with, not told her that hey, sometimes Russians are a bit rapey so get over it.

That was part of the problem. Though the submitted article doesn't actually speak on the issue, this one from an actual news organization points out that she wasn't actually an employee.

Her decision to go to Moscow to participate in the experiment was an independent one, the extent of CSA involvement was that they funded her expenses through a research grant.

They had no say in any aspect of the experiment itself, which was a purely Russian operation. She wasn't actually there on behalf of Canada, or anything.

It's not right, or good, but the fact of the matter is that Canada has virtually nothing with which to influence the Russians whatsoever. No legal basis on which to justify an extraction (unless she accepted the offer to come home, but was prevented from doing so), no launch capabilities which the Russians are dependent on, no economic or military clout which with to threaten Russia, nothing.

The only options at their disposal is seeing to it that she is immediately and safely brought home, but she decided not to quit along with the Japanese man who did.

The blame here lies squarely on the people committing the acts, watching the acts on bloody camera as they occur with full authority to end the experiment, and claiming that she "ruined the mission", and those people were the Russians running the show.

[–]Alan_Smithee_ 180 ポイント181 ポイント  (27子コメント)

As a Canadian, I'm appalled at the lack of support she received from her employer.

[–]Denster1 271 ポイント272 ポイント  (7子コメント)

As a human, I'm appalled at the lack of support she received from her employer.

[–]Murgie 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

She wasn't actually employed by the CSA, she was given a research grant by them.

There was a reason why they didn't actively send anyone over to Moscow for an experiment which they have no control over or involvement in, but when someone says they're going anyway and would like some funding to facilitate that, it's kind of a different story than an employee whom you're actually responsible for, beyond the protections afforded to regular citizens.

[–]Redbulldildo 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

For one, not their employer, they paid out for her to fly to moscow, nothing more.

For two, a single person is not worth raising tensions between countries.

[–]banditkeith 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (3子コメント)

It's a major violation of the code of values and ethics for the public service. I believe it happened, but it's shocking considering the emphasis within the culture of the public service on preventing and swiftly dealing with this sort of thing. Whoever refused to back her up should be reprimanded severely because that was a major violation of the codes we're required to follow.

[–]retiredknight 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Several people have posted links indicating she was not a CSA employee.

[–]aintnodisco13 80 ポイント81 ポイント  (2子コメント)

In Soviet Russia, ass kisses YOU!

[–]orestul 84 ポイント85 ポイント  (42子コメント)

As a Russian I can say that that kind of behaviour is not normal or acceptable in Russia.

[–]adinadin 68 ポイント69 ポイント  (20子コメント)

You're not completely right. I'm Russian too, and while it's totally unacceptable in my social circle I know for sure that there are a lot of people like that, evidently even among smart and educated people. For example I've met some stereotypical gopniks during final round of federal science olympiad few years ago. The whole delegation of Krasnoyarsk were agressive bullies speaking exclusively obscenities, joking about homosex and theft and showing attention to girls in very unhealthy forms. You could mistake them with some street gang fresh out of prison. I was really impressed to witness that kind of culture on the olympiad, but what shocked me completely is some of them demonstrated very good results and it was obvious that they deserved their chance in the final and they didn't get there in some corrupt way as we suspected before the rankings were published. I guess some people like them can make their way to cosmonauts too.

[–]this-is_bullshit 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Hey what exactly does gopniks translate to for the non Russians here?

[–]adinadin 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's a subculture unique to ex-soviet countries, it would be incorrect to translate the word. In other countries there are somewhat similar gangstas or chavs.

[–]TheodorMohana 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Chavs, basically.

[–]orestul 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

It really depends from person to person I guess. My dad is from Krasnoyarsk and it would be hard for you to find a more polite or civil person than him.

[–]krkon 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Holy fuck man! High five! I am from Krasnoyarsk! I am so damn surprised to hear that someone talking about city I live in on Reddit... And sorry about your experience with gopniks...

[–]adinadin 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Sorry for that kind of unpleasant reference to your region, I know those four are not a representative for all of you. But hey, reddit is so popular even in Russia now that it's not a surprise anymore to meet your locals here. I'm not even from Moscow or SPB and I saw a photo on /r/windowshots taken just few minutes walking from my place!

[–]TheEternal21 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Much more acceptable than in the West...

[–]lordperiwinkle 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (3子コメント)

then why did they not warn her?

[–]SenorAnonymous 95 ポイント96 ポイント  (2子コメント)

She was asking for it, wearing a provocative spacesuit in that kind of orbit.

[–]Stuck_In_the_Matrix 51 ポイント52 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Circling the Earth every 90 minutes? Yeah, she gets around all right.

[–]siledas 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Anybody here heard of Lisa Nowak?

[–]chinamanbilly 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The lady in the second picture is Judith Resnick, who later died on Challenger. The gap-toothed gentleman on the lower-left is the author of the book Riding Rockets, Mike Mullane. Read the book.

[–]PM_Me_Stuff_Please_ 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Fucking happily stereotyped Russians.

[–]Mordit 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I wonder if there are any female astronauts stuck up there in space with a couple of rapey dudes. That's the shit of nightmares

[–]my__name__is 82 ポイント83 ポイント  (36子コメント)

I grew up in Russia until I was 12. I can assure you sexual assault is not a part of our culture.

[–]StabbiRabbi 223 ポイント224 ポイント  (15子コメント)

If you'd only stayed till you were 13 you'd be singing a different tune...

[–]gammonbudju 67 ポイント68 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There is quite a lot you wouldn't know when you're twelve.