Why is it particularly relevant to dwell on whether or not the holocaust happened? Personally, being English-American, Eisenhower and Churchill are two people for whom I have great respect. I look at admiration when Churchill stands in the US Congress and speaks of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor and asks "what kind of a people do they think we are?" and that the allies will pursue the Japanese until "they are taught a lesson the world will never forget" - and we most certainly did that.

The reality is, the pursuit of disproving or discrediting the holocaust is trivial. All it seeks to do is exonerate Hitler when there's no reason that Hitler should be the main or primary source of ethnic pride in white people. I don't admire Hitler, so maybe I shouldn't even be hanging out on this page. I see him as a tyrant who usurped the rights of free whites to independent governments. He invaded and attacked virtually every single white country on Earth other than the United States, Canada, and Australia. I fail to see how his method of terror bombing white civilians until the government surrendered was particularly "pro-white" in any way. In reality he was just a Germanic supremacist and not really in favor of white people in general. He hated that Germany is one of the few places German is spoken and that English is spoken in over 60 countries.

I have great respect for Germans in general, but during WWI and WWII they behaved so belligerently towards other white countries, in WWI siding with Muslims, and in WWII doing 50% of their trade with Turkey, that I have trouble being even mildly sympathetic to Hitler.

Here's why endless obsession about the holocaust is detrimental to white movements:

1. Regardless of the precise truth of the history, almost everyone believes it happened and it bears almost no relevance to ethnic pride in the contemporary era.

2. Because so many white pride members are obsessed with Hitler and discrediting the Holocaust, they end up demonizing all whites who want to be proud of Anglo-European history, culture, and religion, not particularly Nazi Germany.

3. It regurgitates psudeo-scientific fallacies Hitler's minions spouted out that have long been disproved. During WWII, DNA wasn't even fully understood, much less any concept of what might constitute a superior genome.

4. There's no reason to needlessly piss off Jews who do actually have a lot of economic power. Chose your battles. If a particular Jewish figure is anti-white or detrimental to other people: say it and EXPLAIN WHY. Jews are a tiny tiny minority of the population and ultimately couldn't stand up to the whole world population so they have every rational reason to be defensive.

5. See above, there are really annoying Jewish people, I'll be the first to say it. Then there's more respectable Jewish people who are interested in protecting their ethnic group and fighting communism (the JDL assassinated and attacked a lot of Soviet representatives and groups). At the end of the day, attacking Jews simply for being Jews is childish and pathetic.

6. Ashkenazi Jews have really done a great deal of scientific work for western civilization - they also have produced a fair number of pseudo-intellectual postmodernist leftist types and I'll be the first to condemn these types for attacks on Anglo-European culture.

7. The Anglosphere has been since its inception quite anti-fascist - I believe this was the primary source of hostility to Hitler in England and the US. We founded the United States on the idea of individual freedom, European enlightenment values, Hitler believed in extreme totalitarian collective identity. Whereas collective identity is important for safety and culture, it needn't always be accompanied by totalitarianism.