bishadi

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very sensible.

BUT...... 'mankind' (conscious life) did 'create' the 'word' (articulate forms), from 'nothing'. We use the stuff of nature, but mankind can actually create ideas from the energy combining memories (thoughts).

"WE" are a trip.

ie... i created this post, not god or any others. I did it!
ie... you are witnessing 'existence' reveal itself......... You are it, knowing 'it' is alive and learning of 'itself'.



YOU can LOVE, hate, kill and give to what YOU WILL!

dood................ r u dat dood?

solitaire

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It was an interesting read, thanks.

You could perhaps have said 'everything that exists must return to the state of its origin', and saved yourself 120 pages of scientific exegesis.

Also, you seem overly concerned about the 'known' laws of physics and things that violate them; the current laws of physics might require an Omega Point, as an Omega Point requires a beginning (an 'Alpha' point), but you must consider that there is more to be discovered about these so-called 'laws of physics' that may in future alter your hypothesis, and that what appear to be violations of them may just be instances of natural phenomena beyond what is currently known.

However, you did say the 'supernatural' does not equate to the 'unnatural' and in this you are quite correct.

Once again, appreciate the PDF.

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solitaire

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This part of the above seems pertinent -

"The Globalist Oligarchy’s Need for Total Domination: Ruling elites have long sought to become immortal though technological means, such as with the Egyptian pyramids and with alchemy. It’s just that those technologies were spurious, being based upon prescientific ideas. In the Computer Age, the globalist ruling class have been among the forefront of anticipating the coming technologies that will make radical life-extension and indeed immortality a reality.

In keeping with their age-old aspiration, it is their goal to become immortal through this coming technology. This is the reason that, from their standpoint, the oligarchy must gain total power over world society (an agenda they have termed the New World Order), because the natural conclusion for them to come to is that otherwise they would be punished by the masses for their many horrific past and ongoing crimes and prevented by the multitude from obtaining immortality if the commonalty were to acquire this radically empowering technology. The ruling class are therefore locked into their present course: they must dominate the world before the masses gain hold of the coming technologies which will make immortality a reality.

For the same reason, from their stance the ruling elite have no choice but to eventually exterminate mankind. Once the stage of technological immortality is reached, whereby nanotechnology is sophisticated enough to transform the substrate of one’s brain into more robust hardware, then if such technology were to fall into the hands of a single commoner, that one person could then become immortal and proceed to rapidly replicate himself, thus creating a situation of mass-empowerment that the oligarchy could never rid themselves of and which it is natural for them to deduce would spell their doom. The only way they can be sure of preventing such an outcome is to exterminate the common masses before such a scenario can take place — before the nanotechnology actually exists which will make immortality a reality.

The globalist oligarchy have massive stocks of nuclear, biological and chemical weapons. They would sooner unleash these weapons upon their own populations than risk losing power. They have underground cities which they have made for themselves in order to survive such doomsday scenarios."

learner

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I had come across one concept or rather the study that has been going on for quite some time by scientists in a particular area of science who suggest that light speed is slowing down. Now if this is the case,the implications to this, opens up linking paths to other logical theories which can help verify or coincide pieces of reasonable theories including our David Icke, on his concept of frequency further going well with the notion that the sense of time is speeding up.

I am Agnostic in the sense that to comprehend or to fathom what ever God is supposed to be, is far beyond us,and 'Are we really ready to know?' yet simply by the mechanics of the universe and the very laws of physical matter I am a believer.

so I'll end here for now.
Great posts

Good day.

bishadi

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nature is not 'governed' by the speed of light

the model is wrong
why not?

are you capable of choice? Unconditional Love?

been about 2-300yrs that knowledge has increased the lifespan of mankind.

In 7.5 billion years when the speculators claim we gotta get off this taco stand cuz some red giant gonna get us, i am sure mankind (conscious life) will 'get er done'

maybe a 'david' will stand up with a rock, and take that bad old giant down

ie... with knowledge (a blow to the head), 'bout anything can be 'created'. (and ignorance taken down)

pinnacle of evolution: existence comprehending itself


and 'we' (mankind) are it


ps...

The OP guy owes me a few answers

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learner

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yes i know this. Forgive me if its seemed that way. I merely suggest the indication, that if light does seem to slow down it may mean matter is not the same as it once was. Of course i am suggesting it may not be noticeable being that we too are moving /vibrating the same as everything else.

Oh yes indeed.

Are you sure my friend? I would say life spans through out mans entire history has obviously varied. In fact i am willing to believe humans have had much longer life spans than today. Now the last 2-300 years worth of knowledge,i gather is the technology we have so recently come by. Tis true there are some remarkable discoveries that has been quite beneficial,but there is thousands of years worth of knowledge out there to be (re)discovered

My claim is,sounding like a pantheist,The universe behaves in ways which seems to be balance of sorts.It has a way to seemingly correct itself.

I sort of agree here.

Good day

bishadi

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the measurement of energy is bound to 'c'. That is what i meant that the speed of light as being wrong. The current model is off in a sense for the same reason you are representing to the extent that there are 2 poles to any potential difference.

For example: - + of a 'charge'.


Based on records with variant time measurments or perhaps you have some other 'data' to substantiate that claim?

theology aint an option!
population explosion

birth/survival rate is hugenormous

like learning how to survive with 'nature'?

could you survive without a grocery store?

learner

Senior Member

 

 

Quite so,because we have to remember beyond our present understanding,new physics is required,example the quantum level. We just do not know enough.

Just by the logic of it all,is enough for me to determine that by just highlighting one of many factors for example; people in the 50's were more healthy.Diets is one major factor as can be seen by the percentage rates of people in a modern hi-tech world who have illnesses like cancer, has beyond sense,- risen!


Yes but of course! There have always been grocery stores,so to speak,whether items were bought with money or bartering.Local produce is the key to survival also mutual trade.
Mans great flaw amongst many is relying on just a few sources or people .( via big supermarkets). Putting faith and trust that suppliers will always supply and not have problems down the line is suicidal to a community.

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jamesredford

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My article "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything", published at the Social Science Research Network (SSRN), has been ameliorated on April 9, 2012. The updated links to it are in the below.

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Below is an article that I recently wrote. It concerns the Omega Point cosmology by physicist and mathematician Prof. Frank J. Tipler, which is a proof of God's existence based upon the most reserved view of the known laws of physics (i.e., the Second Law of Thermodynamics, General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics). For anyone who has ever wondered about such questions as what the meaning of life is, what the purpose of their own life is, whether there is life after death, whether God exists, what the future holds for humanity, and why anything exists at all as opposed to nothingness, then this article answers all of those questions using the known laws of physics.

This article further provides an examination of the globalist political power-elite: history is given on their organizational structure and their methods of accumulating power; and analysis is given on where they're attempting to take the world, i.e., their self-termed New World Order world government and world religion.

The article furnishes documentation on what the globalist oligarchy's ultimate goal is. This ultimate goal of theirs most popularly goes by the name of transhumanism: immortality through technology. However, I explain in the article that the coming radical life-extension technologies create a fundamental dilemma for the oligarchs, which is why they must dominate world society before such technology becomes a reality. The details of that dilemma are explained in Sec. 8.2.2: "The Mark of the Beast" of the article.

Thus, this article explains to people what is to occur and why it is to occur, so that they will not be in ignorance as to the events that are to unfold.

Below one can download the article for free. I encourage everyone to generously share this article with others. By all means, please save it to your hard-drive and give others copies of it. Also, feel free to share the text of this post. The article is in PDF format.

James Redford, "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), April 9, 2012 (orig. pub. December 19, 2011), 185 pp. http://dx.doi.org/10.2139/ssrn.1974708 , http://ssrn.com/abstract=1974708

Below is the abstract to my above article:

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ABSTRACT: Analysis is given of the Omega Point cosmology, an extensively peer-reviewed proof (i.e., mathematical theorem) published in leading physics journals by professor of physics and mathematics Frank J. Tipler, which demonstrates that in order for the known laws of physics to be mutually consistent, the universe must diverge to infinite computational power as it collapses into a final cosmological singularity, termed the Omega Point. The theorem is an intrinsic component of the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model Theory of Everything (TOE) describing and unifying all the forces in physics, of which itself is also required by the known physical laws. With infinite computational resources, the dead can be resurrected--never to die again--via perfect computer emulation of the multiverse from its start at the Big Bang. Miracles are also physically allowed via electroweak quantum tunneling controlled by the Omega Point cosmological singularity. The Omega Point is a different aspect of the Big Bang cosmological singularity--the first cause--and the Omega Point has all the haecceities claimed for God in the traditional religions.

From this analysis, conclusions are drawn regarding the social, ethical, economic and political implications of the Omega Point cosmology.
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http://theophysics.ifastnet.com/Redf...ics-of-God.pdf
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http://theophysics.freevar.com/Redfo...ics-of-God.pdf
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http://www.filefactory.com/file/2dcv...ics-of-God.pdf

Note that the above publication date, the total page count, the file byte size, and the MD5 checksum are subject to change with newer versions of the article, if I were to release such.

The URLs to my Theophysics websites should contain the latest version of the article. With the WebCite URLs ( http://www.webcitation.org ), one can look to see if there is a newer version of this article on the drop-down menu containing the date. Also look at the postings in this forum to see if I have published updated URLs to newer versions of this article, assuming I am unable to update this post.

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Theophysics: God Is the Ultimate Physicist (a website with information on Prof. Frank J. Tipler's Omega Point Theory and the quantum gravity Theory of Everything [TOE]) http://theophysics.host56.com , http://theophysics.ifastnet.com

danceswithbunnies

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BTW...you use a proof to establish a mathematical theorem
proof is not the theorem itself..

for example
The following is a theorem

The following are Equivalent
1)the maximal principle
2)Axiom of choice
3)Zorn's lemma

the proof is a body of logical statements leading to the conclusion that the theorem is true.

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jamesredford

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A theorem is a statement which is has been proven or the name which such a proof goes under, e.g., the Omega Point Theorem, the Penrose–Hawking–Geroch Singularity Theorems, the Atiyah–Singer Index Theorem, Liouville's theorem, the Löwenheim–Skolem theorem, etc. I use the word "theorem" correctly in my article "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything".

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Theophysics: God Is the Ultimate Physicist (a website with information on Prof. Frank J. Tipler's Omega Point Theory and the quantum gravity Theory of Everything [TOE]) http://theophysics.host56.com , http://theophysics.ifastnet.com

danceswithbunnies

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They never did that in the graduate schools i attended,.not ever
and this is because there are usually many different ways to prove a theorem so the two are not equivalent.


i may download and read the pdf but it looks like it might be quite a bit of speculation.

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10thlight

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yea its called the mark replace your body at a micro level into a computer system.chemtrails spray spray spray and let the nanos replicate in all life on earth.
Just needs a master computer system powerfull enough to run it all.Im sure tptb are working on one as we speak and have been
binary computer 1 and 0s for a reason.

solitaire

Senior Member

 

Thanks. I hope this version is as good as the last.

jamesredford

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It's pretty much the same, just some refinements. I knew that I would be editing the article when I originally released it, because I just wanted to get it out as soon as it was basically done.

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Theophysics: God Is the Ultimate Physicist (a website with information on Prof. Frank J. Tipler's Omega Point Theory and the quantum gravity Theory of Everything [TOE]) http://theophysics.host56.com , http://theophysics.ifastnet.com

coco

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Holy snikies, I just had an epiphany.

Man playing God, just because he can, interferes with the cycle. Interfering with the cycle is the.....root, greatest offense...and yet most noble to alleviate suffering.

Terrific confusion.

We are meant to suffer the ways of this world to purify or learn? Yet, are we not meant to move toward relieving such physical suffering?

Or do I have wrong view?

Please explain, anyone.

Thank you.

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bishadi

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new physics are created every day, within the sciences.

and learning is an ongoing process, every day

ie... eventually, mankind WILL understand and that is the 'hope'

that is funny

That is the scary part; imagine LA or New York with no grocery stores full of food?

The people would be eating people!

jamesredford

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My article "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything" has been ameliorated on September 10, 2012. Below are the updated links to it:

James Redford, "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Sept. 10, 2012 (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2011), 186 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1974708; PDF, 1741424 bytes, MD5: 8f7b21ee1e236fc2fbb22b4ee4bbd4cb. http://ssrn.com/abstract=1974708 , http://archive.org/details/ThePhysic...ryOfEverything , http://theophysics.host56.com/Redfor...ics-of-God.pdf , http://webcitation.org/6Abfap2bp , http://flashmirrors.com/files/1ndt5b...ics-of-God.pdf , http://depositfiles.com/files/eybo55tie , http://ziddu.com/download/21165225/R...f-God.pdf.html , http://2shared.com/document/l4Ygh2xH...cs-of-God.html , http://bitshare.com/files/4udm4k3d/R...f-God.pdf.html , http://sendspace.com/file/ym65n4

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Theophysics: God Is the Ultimate Physicist (a website with information on Prof. Frank J. Tipler's Omega Point Theory and the quantum gravity Theory of Everything [TOE]) http://theophysics.host56.com , http://theophysics.ifastnet.com

himitsunomiko

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You can read the OP's interactions with other forumers in the following links:

http://forum.freestateproject.org/in...?topic=24759.0

http://mathforum.org/kb/message.jspa?messageID=7859413

This one is especially good - http://science.niuz.biz/re-t457549.html

http://www.frihost.com/forums/vt-143974.html

http://mises.org/community/forums/t/27521.aspx

http://www.city-data.com/forum/relig...verything.html

http://sguforums.com/index.php?topic=26183.30

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jamesredford

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Hi, Himitsunomiko. What did you find "especially good" about that link? George Hammond's bizarre reply to the phantasms of his mind?

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Theophysics: God Is the Ultimate Physicist (a website with information on Prof. Frank J. Tipler's Omega Point Theory and the quantum gravity Theory of Everything [TOE]) http://theophysics.host56.com , http://theophysics.ifastnet.com