Lena Dunham Looked Inside Her Sister’s Vagina. That’s Not Sexual Abuse. It’s Childhood.

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Nov. 4 2014 12:07 PM

Lena Dunham’s Totally Normal Childhood

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Lena Dunham wrote about common behavior, not sexual abuse.
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In this week’s issue of the National Review, Kevin Williamson accuses actress and screenwriter Lena Dunham of sexually abusing her little sister when Dunham was a child. It’s “the sort of thing that gets children taken away from non-millionaire families without Andover pedigrees and Manhattanite social connections,” he writes. The evidence of this abuse, he says, comes directly from Dunham’s new memoir, Not That Kind of Girl, in which she describes masturbating next to her six-years-younger sister, bribing her sister to kiss her, and looking inside her sister’s vagina.
Williamson hardly has the authority to call this behavior sexual abuse—a claim that should not be thrown around lightly. Not only does he not have a background in human sexuality or child psychology, but it also seems he didn’t consult with anyone who does, or he would have quickly learned that Dunham’s behavior as a youngster was normal. “This is clearly not a case of abuse,” says developmental psychologist Ritch Savin-Williams, director of the Sex and Gender Lab at Cornell University. “Children have been doing this stuff forever and ever and ever and ever, and they will do it forever and ever and ever.”
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Let’s start with the episode for which Williamson says “there is no non-horrific interpretation”: when Dunham approached her 1-year-old sister, Grace, and, as she writes, “leaned down between her legs and carefully spread open her vagina.” According to the American Academy of Pediatrics, touching and looking at new sibling’s genitals is a “normal, common” behavior in kids ages 2 to 6. (Yes, Dunham was apparently 7 when it happened, but still.) This was happening between sisters, too, which is important. It’s not necessarily OK for a child to play sexually with a younger child if he or she don’t typically play together, but among siblings or close friends it can be different. Sexual play often arises naturally out of pretend play, in part because, psychologists have theorized, friends and siblings become curious about each other’s body parts. Indeed, Dunham doesn’t describe trying to play with her sister’s vagina; she just wanted to see what it looked like.
Williamson says that Dunham also admits to, in his words, “casually masturbating while in bed next to her younger sister.” According to Dunham, her sister was the one crawling into her bed, and Grace was asleep when the masturbation happened—so Dunham, who was at least 13 at the time, was essentially masturbating in private. Masturbation is, of course, very normal: A 2011 study conducted by researchers at the University of Indiana School of Medicine reported that nearly half of 14-year-old girls masturbate. In fact, the paper called masturbation “integral to normal sexual development.” Hell, one survey found that two-thirds of professionals think it’s normal for 3-year-olds to masturbate.
Then there is Dunham’s admission that she bribed her sister to kiss her on the lips for five seconds. Yes, it’s coercive—but is it harmful? “It sounds, from what Dunham is writing, that it’s just playful activity. One would seriously have to question that harm was done,” Savin-Williams says. And again, this kind of play is extremely common. In one study, researchers at Bryn Mawr College found that nearly one-third of women claimed to having been coerced into playing sexual games as children, and that most of the time, these games seemed perfectly normal. Ultimately, the American Academy of Pediatrics says that more than half of children will engage in some type of sexual behavior before their 13th birthday. (For more examples of “weird sexual shit” women did as kids, check out this Tumblr.)
This is not to say that abuse between siblings doesn’t happen; it certainly does. But in no way does what Dunham describe come close to the criminal-justice definition of sibling sexual abuse, which is “forcible rape, forcible sodomy, sexual assault with an object, and forcible fondling.” When child abuse specialists, teachers, lawyers, and child care and school administrators convened at a symposium in 1995 to collectively decide what distinguishes “developmentally expected” sexual behaviors from those that “suggest dysfunctional development” and could be harmful, they decided that masturbation, inspecting the bodies of other children, and kissing—the three things Dunham writes about doing—all belonged in the first category. Behaviors in the second category included oral/genital contact with other kids, penetrating girls’ vaginas with objects or fingers, and forced penetration of other orifices. What Dunham did doesn’t even come close to this.
The fact is, sexuality is a normal and important part of child development, much like the development of language, motor skills, and cognition. It’s only natural that children want to explore their own bodies and those of their parents, siblings, and friends. My son has his hands down his pants more than I would like, sure, but that doesn’t mean he has problems. It means he’s 3 years old. But even though sexual play and exploration is normal, it can be smart to talk to your kids about sexuality at a young age; here are some suggestions for how to do so from the National Child Traumatic Stress Network, and here are some guidelines for how to differentiate normal from abnormal behavior.
Perhaps Dunham was courting a reaction when she wrote, “Basically, anything a sexual predator might do to woo a small suburban girl I was trying.” But that’s just Dunham being Dunham—provocative, perhaps; an admission of sexual abuse, no way. As ridiculous as Williamson’s claims are, they are important to address for two reasons: Williamson is not just being unfair to Dunham by characterizing her actions as “abusive”—he’s also accusing and humiliating millions of other individuals who did similar things as kids. “Our prisons would be filled with ‘child abusers,’ I’m sure, if we started imprisoning all the children who sexually played around with each other,” Savin-Williams says. Perhaps more importantly, Williamson’s accusations trivialize the trauma of real sexual abuse, which, according to the Crimes Against Children Research Center, afflicts an estimated 1 in 5 girls and 1 in 20 boys in the United States today.
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Ruy Lopez
Ruy Lopez 5ptsFeatured
Ok, so since this is our only place to comment about Dunham, let me go on the record and predict that now that Dunham has finally exonerated "Barry One", Slate will publish an article sweeping the whole thing under the rug, and kinda giving Dunham a light slap on the wrist for not exonerating him earlier, while really giving a thorough justification for why she did so.
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As to why Slate didn't post about Dunham earlier? Part of it was that they were Dunham cheerleaders, but the bigger thing is that they were hoping that THEY would get the exclusive, and are pretty pissed that Buzzfeed got it instead.
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And they got scooped by Drudge....repeatedly.
maed2511
maed2511 5ptsFeatured
@Ruy Lopez I don't know. Could be that given Slate's recent fairly awesome reporting on the Rolling Stone debacle they didn't feel comfortable publishing Dunham's self-whitewashing little pontification. Maybe Buzzfeed was the only place that would take it. Unlikely, I know, but I dare to dream.
Rob Petrovich
Rob Petrovich 5ptsFeatured
This article does nothing to explain why this behavior would be legal.  The link given for "criminal justice definition" in the sixth paragraph goes to the abstract of an NIH study criticizing attempts to justify sibling child molestation as normal sexual exploration. 
The criminal justice definition comes from the age of consent and incest laws of whatever state Ms. Dunham lived in at the time. If the author believes that the behavior was legal, I would be interested in a follow-up that has reasons why.
Jean Valjean
Jean Valjean 5ptsFeatured
I've never inspected my sister's vagina. I've never bribed her so I could kiss her and I've never manipulated her emotionally so she would respond favorably to my sexual advances. 

The author is a rape apologist. No doubt, we would see a completely different version of this article if it was about a male celebrity. Cuz, you know, rape is wrong (when men do it). 

But as usual, women get a pass. They get a pass when they commit domestic violence, they get a pass when the commit child abuse, and they get a pass when they commit partner rape. On that last one, lesbian couples have the highest instance of partner rape. Funny how that can be when there are no males in the relationship?

So it shouldn't come as a surprise that Lena and the author deny sex abuse allegations. Sure, we could all concede that Dunham was a kid and didn't know any better, but to defend herself so vigorously as an adult and to hold her actions completely acceptable as an adult is outrageous. 

And finally, Dunham continued her sexual molestation of her sister even into her late teens. Was she not an adult by then? At this point she knew what she was doing was wrong. That's why she had to bribe and emotionally manipulate her sister in order to gain sexual access to her. 

Lena Dunham is a pedophile. The fact that she is completely oblivious of her actions and holds them to be entirely harmless shows that she is an ongoing threat to children. 

There is no justification for child molestation. As a male survivor of repeated molestation at the hands of my step-brother and his gay friend, I find it absolutely offensive that anyone would defend Dunham or that Dunham would try to defend herself. 

It's disgusting and exactly the kind of vicious and sick double standard that I've come to expect from feminists.
Lucinda Blackletter
Lucinda Blackletter 5ptsFeatured
A comment posted to another site has absolutely fascinated me and i have yet to see it repeatedly brought up......

If people are simply categorizing this behavior as normal childhood curiosity because children can not be "sexual" in nature at that age.......how is it that anyone from the gay community (sorry, im not going to try and include all of the labels) say that they knew from birth that they were gay?

And no, I am not roping the gay community and sexual abuse into a category together.  Im simply addressing these doctors and specialist that are brushing off Lena Dunhams feelings and actions as being "child's play" because a child can not be aware of sexual desire or understand sexual nature,  when members of the gay community have been repeatedly out spoken that they are in fact "born that way". 
fightthetheocracy!
fightthetheocracy! 5ptsFeatured
@Lucinda Blackletter  Uh....because gays were attracted to members of the same gender since they were small children? I'm sure you'll try to find some way to turn that into a sex thing even though it isn't. What is it with you guys needing to "disprove" the idea that gays are born the way they are? Does the idea that some guys are attracted to other guys really freak you out that much? 

Siblings play with each others genitals all the time. Even if you want to argue that what she did was sexual abuse, it would still have nothing to do with gays. Is that why the right is freaked out about this? They see it as some excuse to attack gay people? Like this is some sort of "proof" that same sex attraction leads to child molestation? 
Attraction in and of itself is not a sex thing. Unless you want to argue that kindergartners who like each other is a "sex" thing. It is possible to be attracted to someone before hitting puberty. The only ones making it about sex are on your side. This has zero to do with gays. For the record, the reason why many of us on the left are dismissing this is because we understand the world isn't black and white. There is a difference between goofing off and actual intending to molest someone. If her sister was uncomfortable with what she did, that my be something they'll have to work out in therapy but it looks to us like the right is exploiting this as some excuse to portray gays as child molesters.
Angela Gatlin Edwards
Angela Gatlin Edwards 5ptsFeatured
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If gays were, indeed, "born" that way then Medical Science will eventually be able to isolate the gene that causes it. And give parents a choice whether or not to give birth to a "gay" baby. What do you think most parents will choose? If Homosexuality is something people can be "born" with, then homosexuality will eventually be just about wiped out as potentially "gay" babies will almost for sure be aborted before birth.
Here is what would happen. According to this map, the states in the US range from 1.7% gay on the low end to 4.9% on the high end. Most "low gay" states are somewhere in the 2s and the "high gay" states in the 4s. So we'll round that number off to 3.5% of the country identifies as "gay" in the United States.
According to this report, 92% of all Down Syndrome babies are aborted:
So let's say a homosexual gene is found and parents can choose whether or not to let their pregnancies with a "gay baby" go full term. Let's say that the percentage of "gay baby" abortion is roughly the same as "Down Syndrome" abortion: 92%
3.5% of babies will have the "gay gene": 0.035
92% of those babies are aborted: 0.92
92% aborted "gay babies" out of 3.5% of babies who are "gay" which means only 8% allowed to live: 0.08 X 0.035
Equals: 0.0028
Two One Thousands of One Percent of "gay babies" would be allowed to be born. Two One Thousands of one percent!! If gays are "born gay" this fact will eventually wipe homosexuality off the planet.
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pleepleus
pleepleus 5ptsFeatured
Dear Ms Dunham, I realize your life is an open book and exhibitionism is your thing, but please leave some details out, we really don't need to know everything.
Alethea
Alethea 5ptsFeatured
Slate Magazine says: “in no way does what Dunham describe come close to the criminal-justice definition of sibling sexual abuse, which is “forcible rape, forcible sodomy, sexual assault with an object, and forcible fondling.”
Child sexual abuse does not have to include physical force! Gentle fondling, kissing, lying next to a child for the purposes of sexual gratification, and psychological tricks on the younger child is still sexual abuse.
Alethea
Alethea 5ptsFeatured
What if Lena Dunham’s case were an older teenage boy who masturbated next to his little sister, and that same boy had admitted to being curious about his little sister’s vagina and wanted her to lay on him, and had bribed his sister into kissing him on the lips. What if this were the scenario? Would the media be singing a different tune?
Why is it that women are allowed to get away with this kind of behavior merely because they are women? Why do mental health “experts,” friends, fans, and loved ones excuse the behavior of young Dunham just because the acts involved two females, and not an older male sibling with his little sister?
harriet tubman
harriet tubman 5ptsFeatured
@Alethea "Why is it that women are allowed to get away with this kind of behavior merely because they are women? Why do mental health “experts,” friends, fans, and loved ones excuse the behavior of young Dunham just because the acts involved two females, and not an older male sibling with his little sister?"

It's a fascinating question and a fair one, imo, but one unlikely to be answered in the Slate XX universe.
virginia_S
virginia_S 5ptsFeatured
@Alethea Lena wasn't an "older teenager" when she was curious about her sister's vagina. If a 7-year-old boy had done the same thing, I suspect we'd have the same outrage from the conservatives and the same "it's normal childhood exploration" from the liberals that we have now, with only a few deviations.
Also, as the article points out, she didn't seek her sister out to masturbate next to her. Her sister crawled into bed with her and then fell asleep, at which point she masturbated privately.
Alethea
Alethea 5ptsFeatured
Slate is reporting that Lena was at least 13 years old when she masturbated next to her little sister, who would have been about six or seven at the time. This is depraved behavior, and given the fact that it is reported that Dunham describes in her book that she bribed her little sister to kiss her on the lips when the child was only age one, and that she tried to trick the child into “relaxing on her,” and was so curious about the child’s vagina… there is a good chance Lena masturbated next to her sister because she was sexually stimulated by the younger child.

It is NOT “sexual play” or “games” when there is coercion, when the older sibling is 
dramatically older, and when the child is being tricked and masturbated next to.
It can be highly disturbing for the younger child when they are tricked, lured, or coerced.
In Lena Dunham’s case, she might even have has created sexual identity issues in her younger sister, and caused her sister to now think she is a lesbian.
Danny Mark
Danny Mark 5ptsFeatured
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According to this, Dunham was at least 17 while the abuse was ongoing. 
Alethea
Alethea 5ptsFeatured
@Danny Mark @Alethea If so, then just as bad. 13, or 17, makes no difference. It is a violation of the younger child.

Danny Mark
Danny Mark 5ptsFeatured
The difference is, at 17 sex abusers can and often should be charged as adults. At 17, too, it starts to sound like criminal pathology, and the police should be investigating not just these incidents, that occurred repeatedly over years, but the possibility that there are other victims.

Alethea
Alethea 5ptsFeatured
@Danny Mark @Alethea I believe there to be criminal pathology already. She even admits it herself in her book. In a possible Freudian slip, she said that her acts upon her sister were “basically anything a sexual predator might do to woo a small suburban girl.” This is an admission -be it conscious, or unconscious- this is an indirect direct admission that what she was doing was not okay --if not criminal.
Jc
Jc 5ptsFeatured
@Alethea @Danny Mark Did you not read the article? It goes over this point.
As for this being criminal (masturbating beside a sleeping sibling) then I must Oedipus since I had sex with my girlfriend in the bed beside my mother right after graduating bootcamp.
I mean, we figured she was asleep, but clearly we jointly raped her ... ?
virginia_S
virginia_S 5ptsFeatured
@Danny Mark @Alethea No, according to that, she was up to 17 when she was masturbating in the relative privacy of her bedroom (while enduring her sister sleeping next to her). Not "at least" 17. I guess you're equally horrified by the fact that, when people used to not be able to afford multi-room houses, they had sex in the same room as their children all the time.
Also, anyone who thinks that teasing one's siblings is horrific behavior best described as "deliberately exploiting and tormenting"--and proof of sexual predator status--is hysterical.
Jc
Jc 5ptsFeatured
@Danny Mark @Alethea Such a reliable source for news about outspoken women.
Look, I don't like Dunham in the least, but I am NEVER going to quote "avoiceformen" about her.
Slipjig
Slipjig 5ptsFeatured
Wow, I think the idea that she's a child molester is a bit over the top, but it certainly sounds like she had a thoroughly messed up childhood.

Does Lena Dunham have any real fans?  Every time I see a reference to her, it's usually somebody talking about how much they hate her.  I think she may be the new Paris Hilton.
fightthetheocracy!
fightthetheocracy! 5ptsFeatured
I changed my niece's diapers when she was a baby and wiped poo out of her vagina...OMG! THAT MUST MAKE ME A CHILD MOLESTER!!!!! 
Mike Dominick
Mike Dominick 5ptsFeatured
@fightthetheocracy! Did you masturbate next to your 11 year old sister while she was laying beside you in bed when you were 17 years old, and show a long pattern of manipulation, coercion, and abuse towards her? 

And this is really something from an old review of an episode of Girls. A lot of truth in fiction:

"Hannah’s cousin Rebecca is by far the most interesting new character we meet this week. Grandma Flo might be the most likable, but Rebecca is the most interesting. She’s Hannah’s opposite in every way. She’s going to med school. She’s obsessively studious. She’s rude to Hannah at every turn (trashing writing, implying that she’s annoying her), but then asks her to hang out. She wants to hang out with Hannah, but she also seems to hate her. Then, in a bizarre moment, she kind of accuses Hannah of molesting her as a child, claiming that she made her lay under the covers and masturbate with her. It’s an odd moment. Hannah seems genuinely shocked and offended by the accusation, and the resulting argument (along with Rebecca’s insistence on texting her mother while driving) results in the two of them getting into a non-fatal car accident."
pleepleus
pleepleus 5ptsFeatured
Mike, I'm sorry you were molested as a child. Get therapy. It will help you put that episode behind you.
Jc
Jc 5ptsFeatured
@Mike Dominick @fightthetheocracy! Or ... fiction in fiction.
Otherwise, you're saying that JK Rowling was attacked by a troll on Halloween when she was 11, George RR Martin is a perverse serial killer, and SOMEONE likes Stephanie Meyers. 
You might convince me on the first two ...
Maxwell Williams
Maxwell Williams 5ptsFeatured
It's really fascinating to look at what a "normal" Liberal's life is like, not what most call normal.
"As she grew, I took to bribing her for her time and affection: one dollar in quarters if I could do her makeup like a “motorcycle chick.” Three pieces of candy if I could kiss her on the lips for five seconds. Whatever she wanted to watch on TV if she would just “relax on me.” Basically, anything a sexual predator might do to woo a small suburban girl I was trying."
"I shared a bed with my sister, Grace, until I was seventeen years old. She was afraid to sleep alone and would begin asking me around 5:00 P.M. every day whether she could sleep with me. I put on a big show of saying no, taking pleasure in watching her beg and sulk, but eventually I always relented. Her sticky, muscly little body thrashed beside me every night as I read Anne Sexton, watched reruns of SNL, sometimes even as I slipped my hand into my underwear to figure some stuff out."
fightthetheocracy!
fightthetheocracy! 5ptsFeatured
@Maxwell Williams  I love how bigots think that "liberals" seem to have weird messed up lives just because we don't hate gays or don't let some church tell us what our opinions should be. In case you haven't noticed living in your talk radio bubble, the majority are now "liberal".
Mike Dominick
Mike Dominick 5ptsFeatured
@fightthetheocracy! @Maxwell Williams Are they? Liberals just got trounced at the polls. And of course in prog mentality anyone that doesnt agree with destructive lib orthodoxy is a "bigot". Keep playing that card, sister!
Jc
Jc 5ptsFeatured
@Maxwell Williams My conservative grandfather ruled over the house where his wife sexually and mentally abused my father (their only son) while he spent more time with his mistress whom he kept on after my grandmother's death. He even remarried, but not to the mistress, he got a new housekeeper wife and kept the other woman as such.
Did I mention he was a minister, too?
Damn normal conservative, right?
Mike Dominick
Mike Dominick 5ptsFeatured
More white lib, upper middle class feminists protecting one of their own, and apologizing for Dunham's sexual assault, grooming, and coercion of her younger sister. You do no service to working class women, and women of color with your articles either many of whom have come out against Dunham and tell their own stories of abuse. Feminism is the new class warfare, one undertaken by middle, upper middle, and rich white women against everyone else. 

And in every single article continue to omit that this behavior fit a pattern that went on until she was 17 YEARS OLD! 

fightthetheocracy!
fightthetheocracy! 5ptsFeatured
@Mike Dominick  How much do you want to bet you can't accurately define what a "feminist" is?
Mike Dominick
Mike Dominick 5ptsFeatured
@fightthetheocracy! @Mike Dominick Like all progressive liberal ideology what it says it is(an egalitarian movement)is not what it is in practice. In practice it ends here, with a small group of elitists telling everyone else what the proper morality is. Ironic though that a cat call is assault, but coercing your sister with candy to "relax" on you, and long kisses on the lips is normal. The progressive era is over, and feminism is part of that. It serves no other purpose anymore except to divide through ceaseless gender warfare, and power to dummies like the one who wrote this worthless op-ed. 
fightthetheocracy!
fightthetheocracy! 5ptsFeatured
@Mike Dominick  I love how you say that with absolutely no sense of irony. The churches tell people what their morals should be all the time but somehow these cartoon feminists that exist in your mind are the ones trying to run people's lives. "The progressive era is over"? Refresh my memory, how many states had gay marriage ten years ago compared to today? What is the average age of a Limbaugh listener compared to 20 years ago? What news source to most young people rely on? You can tell yourselves you've somehow won the culture war because of one election but the long term picture says otherwise.
Danny Mark
Danny Mark 5ptsFeatured
Melinda Wenner Moyer is lying by omission, of course. It's worth quoting Janet Bloomfield at length because what Moyer and Vanessa Vitiello Urquhart, Slate's two writers (so far) are both looking to do is  what happens far too often; they are abetting the cover up and minimizing sexual abuse based on the perpetrator's gender. 
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According to Bloomfield,  Dunham wrote in her autobiography,
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"As she grew, I took to bribing her for her time and affection: one dollar in quarters if I could do her makeup like a “motorcycle chick.” Three pieces of candy if I could kiss her on the lips for five seconds. Whatever she wanted to watch on TV if she would just “relax on me.” Dunham even posted an image of the “motorcycle chick,” calling her little sister “sex property,” and the only thing screaming through my mind is Where the f*** are your parents? .... But Lena’s story doesn’t end with bribing her sister into kisses or “relaxing” into her. "I shared a bed with my sister, Grace, until I was seventeen years old. She was afraid to sleep alone and would begin asking me around 5:00 P.M. every day whether she could sleep with me. I put on a big show of saying no, taking pleasure in watching her beg and sulk, but eventually I always relented. Her sticky, muscly little body thrashed beside me every night as I read Anne Sexton, watched reruns of SNL, sometimes even as I slipped my hand into my underwear to figure some stuff out.
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"Deliberately exploiting and tormenting her little sister and then masturbating beside her? This is full-on sex predator behavior. If this is the stuff Lena thought was okay to reveal, what did she think was not?"
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That's where Bloomfield ends. The context throughout is still Dunham's plain statement, “Basically, anything a sexual predator might do to woo a small suburban girl I was trying.” This should not be minimized.
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Maxwell Williams
Maxwell Williams 5ptsFeatured
Lena's supporters are trying to defend her as childs-play and frame this as a one-time thing, but it's not and 'they' know better then most she has a history of deviant behavior.
This is how Lena describe her therapy session with Dr Lisa in the 'New Yorker'
Lena (9 or 10) in fourth grade at the time seeing the therapist three times a week.
"The germophobia morphs into hypochondria morphs into sexual anxiety morphs into the pain and angst that accompany entry into middle school. Over time, Lisa and I develop a shorthand for things I’m too embarrassed to say: “masturbation” becomes “M,” “sexuality” becomes “ooality,” and my crushes become “him.” I don’t like the term “gray area,” as in “the gray area between being scared and aroused,” so Lisa coins “the pink area.” We eventually move into her adult office but stay sitting on the floor. We’ll often share a box of Special K or a croissant."
The work we’re doing together helps, but even three mornings a week isn’t enough to stop the terrible thoughts, the fear of sleep and of life in general. Sometimes, to manage the images that come unbidden, I force myself to picture my parents copulating in intricate patterns, summoning the image in sets of eight, for so long that looking at them makes me nauseated.
“Mom,” I say. “Turn away from me so I won’t think of sex.”
Lucinda Blackletter
Lucinda Blackletter 5ptsFeatured
@Danny Mark This is not just until she was 17.  Look at the rest of her extremely hypersexualized life.  Her infamous "rape" charges, constant nudity on her own show, drug and alcohol abuse, multiple questionable sex partners.  I am the farthest thing in the world from prude but people need to stop focusing on just what happened in her childhood and start examining her entire life as a whole.  She is seriously damaged goods.
Nathan
Nathan 5ptsFeatured
Of course there's no story here. If the last three years are any indication it is scientifically impossible to make Lena Dunham or any aspect of her life sound interesting.
harriet tubman
harriet tubman 5ptsFeatured
Thank god that as a 7-year-old boy who did the same thing with my 1-year-old sister that my actions so many years back have been deemed normal and common by the XX factor.  After all, when I spread her legs open I was only curious to see what her vagina looked like, even if it was without her consent.  And when I decided I wanted a kissing partner, thank god no one thinks it's odd that I bribed her to practice with me.  And she's a rad kisser!  And when I was masturbating in the bed next to her while she slept, what a sweet, sweet release that was and my sister didn't seem to mind at all! Not that I asked her.

And guess what?  Even now, some 17 years later, my sister and I still laugh about.  She's a totally cool and ballsy chick I'm glad she didn't mind the things I did with her.  Not that I asked her.  

So what can I say?  Yes, my exploration at my sister's expense was sweet and fun and innocent and magical and transformational and I'm glad Ms. Wenner Moyer and the researchers at Bryn Mawr agree it wasn't weird.  Oh, and thanks for the links and suggestions you put in at the end of this article. It made me feel really good to know you care so much about protecting people like my little sister from potential violations and abuse. Rock on!
RodEuripides
RodEuripides 5ptsFeatured
It's "Indiana University," not the "University of Indiana." There is no "University of Indiana." People from the East and West coasts get this wrong with alarming frequency.
desya
desya 5ptsFeatured
Something very important this article left out is that childhood sexual play is BETWEEN PEERS of the same or similar ages! NOT a sibling 6 YEARS older than another manipulating them into kissing and lay on top of their bodies. 
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