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Attackers yelling 'we will kill you' storm synagogue in London suburb. (jpost.com)
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[–]quantum4ce 86 ポイント87 ポイント88 ポイント 6 時間 前 (83子コメント)
The article is very careful to avoid mentioning the race of the 20 "youths" who attacked the Jews.
Political Correctness makes me giggle.
[–]iniquest 79 ポイント80 ポイント81 ポイント 4 時間 前 (5子コメント)
Stamford Hill, the location of this attack had an anti-Semitic rally planned by a neo-nazi group of March 22nd. Which was later canceled. Here is another souce
[–]Odds-Bodkins [非表示スコア] 36 分 前 (2子コメント)
I really don't think that's related to what's happening here.
These are drunk teens, and I suspect that there's been some sort of confrontation prior to the video. It doesn't look like an organised attack AT ALL. The fact that the girls in the group are shouting to stop suggests that they're not part of some far-right group.
Moreover, that "anti-semitic rally" appears to have been a facebook event that had a whopping "50 attending", and was pretty quickly shut down. Antisemitism isn't a big concern in the UK - the far-right BNP are very much a lunatic fringe party, unlike the generally xenophobic UKIP.
[–]Zorkamork [非表示スコア] 13 分 前 (1子コメント)
I don't know how you get drunk but I've had some benders in my life, they've never ended with me trying to storm a holy site screaming 'I'll kill you'.
Ya know, crazy, but I think these guys just might have been pretty biased against Jews to start with.
[–]itsokimaplumber [非表示スコア] 1 分 前 (0子コメント)
Maybe he's Mel Gibson.
[–]NoHorseInThisRace 16 ポイント17 ポイント18 ポイント 1 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Reminder that the vast majority of antisemitic attacks are committed by the far-right.
So this isn't that surprising. It just tends to not be reported on.
[–]ZoeYellow [非表示スコア] 1 時間 前 (0子コメント)
I think there would be a certain irony in neo-nazis adopting speech patterns like the ones featured in the vid u get me blud nah'm sayin fam.
[–]Piles_Hussein 15 ポイント16 ポイント17 ポイント 2 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Yeah because the video shows it quite clearly
[–]Aceofspades25 19 ポイント20 ポイント21 ポイント 3 時間 前 (1子コメント)
Probably because they were part of the majority, making their race uninteresting and irrelevant
[–]AG3287 14 ポイント15 ポイント16 ポイント 1 時間 前* (0子コメント)
The attackers were White. You can see it in the video.
[–]Arvendilin 16 ポイント17 ポイント18 ポイント 2 時間 前 (0子コメント)
I mean, those were Neo-Nazi Brits, whites you know?
Articles never mention the race of someone if they are part of the majority!
[–]TheLightningbolt 20 ポイント21 ポイント22 ポイント 2 時間 前 (3子コメント)
The race doesn't matter, unless of course you're looking for some "confirmation" for the stereotypes in your own mind. Were you hoping they were Muslim? Did you know other people can be racist too?
[+]ffilps スコアが基準値未満のコメント[非表示スコア] 57 分 前 (2子コメント)
i bet they were. and just for your information, "muslim" is not a race but a religious affiliation.
[–]crouchtouchpause [非表示スコア] 25 分 前 (1子コメント)
Pissed up and on their way home form a party, whilst being white?
I bet you any money they weren't.
[–]Zorkamork [非表示スコア] 14 分 前 (0子コメント)
Yea you know, all those hard drinking extreme Muslims.
[–]throwinout 102 ポイント103 ポイント104 ポイント 5 時間 前 (39子コメント)
Did you watch the video? Literally every person who made an appearance in that video was white.
[–]fiat_sux4 [非表示スコア] 1 時間 前 (2子コメント)
So if they're white we shouldn't mention their race, but if they're not white we should?
[–]05banks [非表示スコア] 10 分 前 (0子コメント)
If anything, the news is the opposite. Everyone knows what race a policeman was when they kill a youth, but when you hear about black on white crimes it's just 'individuals' or 'people'.
It's all about whether it fits a narrative at the moment.
[–]HisMajestyWilliam [非表示スコア] 8 分 前 (0子コメント)
/r/worldnews: "Yes".
[–]quantum4ce 26 ポイント27 ポイント28 ポイント 3 時間 前 (16子コメント)
Because everyone in that video was supporting the Jewish folks.
The "youths" weren't seen in that video.
[–]InternetOfficer 64 ポイント65 ポイント66 ポイント 2 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Including the white guy who is trying to kick the door open from outside? I think he is Osama Bin Laden cleverly disguised as a White guy
[–]avinoame 17 ポイント18 ポイント19 ポイント 1 時間 前 (1子コメント)
What are you talking about? You can clearly see the faces of at least 3 of the attackers.
[–]LiterallyFuckPandas [非表示スコア] 40 分 前 (0子コメント)
Yeah wtf, they're are blatantly white.
[–]AG3287 36 ポイント37 ポイント38 ポイント 1 時間 前* (11子コメント)
Because everyone in that video was supporting the Jewish folks. The "youths" weren't seen in that video.
Watch it again. You can see at least some of their faces clearly, and the ones you can see are clearly white. Add to this that we know that this area is a hotbed of neo-nazi activity, and that there was a rally there just a short while ago, and that there are very few Muslims living there, and it's very difficult to see why any reasonable person would assume the perps were Muslim.
[–]Space_Lift [非表示スコア] 8 分 前 (0子コメント)
I'm trying to figure out what the fuck is going on this this video. you see the doors get smashed and then two white girls appear and shut the door and then two white guys just stand behind them and start arguing with the people in the synagogue.
What that seems like is that the attackers were fighting with the white people outside the synagogue.
[–]Stormflux [非表示スコア] 49 分 前* (8子コメント)
Maybe I'm just a dumb American, but how would the UK have a "hotbed of neo Nazi activity?" I thought you guys fought against the Nazis in WWII.
Whatever happened to "We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender?"
[–]UtterlyRelevant [非表示スコア] 45 分 前 (0子コメント)
You'd be amazed.
Russia has a large Neo-Nazi problem (well, a problem, I can't personally attest to the size other than what i've seen in documentaries and so forth.), and they were by far the most battered by WW2 battles.
I mean, they're Neo-Nazi's, I doubt their reasoning considers much of a historical perspective.
[–]TastyFace [非表示スコア] 30 分 前 (0子コメント)
Because poor uneducated Brits are pissed off about immigration, and all that bullshit that US racists like to spout about it being a white, christian nation is actually true of the UK. makes it a bit easier to convince your friend at the pub that there are classes of people who do and don't belong there.
English culture has this weird issue where their national identity was pretty much "we're NOT those assholes we just conquered," so there was a bit of a shock when the Empire stopped being a thing and all the conquered folks started immigrating.
[–]psifork [非表示スコア] 47 分 前 (0子コメント)
They are still very much here, plenty of skinhead neo nazis all over
[–]Zorkamork [非表示スコア] 15 分 前 (0子コメント)
....Are you joking?
You know us Americans also fought the Nazis pretty hard and we have neo-Nazi hotbeds too, right?
[–]cdskip [非表示スコア] 42 分 前 (0子コメント)
Plenty of Neo Nazis in the US too. The appeal isn't limited by geography, or by what side a country took in a war that started 75 years ago.
[–]KenpatchiRama-Sama [非表示スコア] 18 分 前 (2子コメント)
Isnt the same thing happening in america with people flying the confederate flag?
[–]sola_dei_gloria [非表示スコア] 15 分 前 (1子コメント)
Not at all the same thing. The whole of the UK fought against the whole of a foreign Nazi army. Where do you think the Confederates came from?
[–]KenpatchiRama-Sama [非表示スコア] たった今 (0子コメント)
but it is pretty much the same. 2 different sides clash, 1 survives. people stuck in the victorious side feel like the losing side had the right idea
[–]Potatoslay3r [非表示スコア] 17 分 前 (0子コメント)
Could easily be Muslim. This is London, they're going to be pale.
[–]youareaspastic [非表示スコア] 48 分 前 (0子コメント)
Olympic level mental gymnastics
[+]Lord_Khamul スコアが基準値未満のコメント-12 ポイント-11 ポイント-10 ポイント 5 時間 前 (10子コメント)
You can hardly see the attackers.
[–]doktormabuse 11 ポイント12 ポイント13 ポイント 3 時間 前 (0子コメント)
There's more video evidence on vos9es youtube channel. You can use the "pause" button to help you ID the attackers.
[–]throwinout 37 ポイント38 ポイント39 ポイント 4 時間 前 (2子コメント)
Dude, you can clearly see the faces of at least three of them. You actually have a harder time seeing the people in the synagogue since their backs are turned to the camera.
[–]InternetOfficer 11 ポイント12 ポイント13 ポイント 2 時間 前 (0子コメント)
The guy with the "NY" cap trying to kick open the door clearly looks like a chav from Ealing or shit like that.
[–]ESWC 10 ポイント11 ポイント12 ポイント 5 時間 前 (5子コメント)
Are you fully blind?
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[–]InternetOfficer 17 ポイント18 ポイント19 ポイント 2 時間 前 (1子コメント)
buffer zone of white people trying to stop the attack
I come to /r/worldnews for shits and giggles. Not disappointed
[–]Piles_Hussein 5 ポイント6 ポイント7 ポイント 1 時間 前 (0子コメント)
The cognitive dissonance is strong in this thread sub
[–]jazz4 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 2 時間 前 (1子コメント)
Buffer zone of white people is poetry.
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[–]indoninja 34 ポイント35 ポイント36 ポイント 3 時間 前 (3子コメント)
They were attacking a random synagogue, ripping up their holy books, and threatening to kill jews due to their overwhelming apathy about judiasm? That is your theory?
[–]Goiterbuster -5 ポイント-4 ポイント-3 ポイント 3 時間 前* (2子コメント)
Their religious impartiality led them to attack a synagogue or a Jewish place of worship or a building where the children of Israel gather. It could've been either one of those targets. Religion has nothing to do with it.
edit: seriously reddit ? I have put in the /s ?
[–]indoninja 13 ポイント14 ポイント15 ポイント 2 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Apparently many redditors solve personal conflicts with other individuals by gett drunk with a gang attacking their house of worship, trashing it and threatening to kill people. But it is an entirely personal conflict and religion is a complete non factor.
[–]Tzahi12345 10 ポイント11 ポイント12 ポイント 2 時間 前 (0子コメント)
That's a bigger stretch than spaghettification.
[–]iranianshill 21 ポイント22 ポイント23 ポイント 3 時間 前 (0子コメント)
It's not even an anti-semitic attack
I don't think you can make this claim without seeing what happened before the video starts rolling. Why are they even attacking the synagogue and the lad in the first place?
[–]Slyndrr 10 ポイント11 ポイント12 ポイント 3 時間 前 (0子コメント)
It's being treated as an anti-semitic attack by the local police because of comments made during the attack.
[–]MorDon1 42 ポイント43 ポイント44 ポイント 3 時間 前* (12子コメント)
There were no Asians/Muslims/Arabs in that video aside from maybe some inside the building. Fucking shitstirring idiots make me giggle.
EDIT: It isn't political correctness, it is that the race of the attackers was irrelevant. It is by the Jerusalem Post, this isn't the guardian, it is an Israeli newspaper. It is hardly going to hold any punches.
[+]quantum4ce スコアが基準値未満のコメント-26 ポイント-25 ポイント-24 ポイント 3 時間 前 (11子コメント)
Interesting. I never mentioned Asians - that was your assumption.
Why do you think Asians are the most likely to attack Jewish people?
[–]elhawiyeh 16 ポイント17 ポイント18 ポイント 2 時間 前 (0子コメント)
In British English, "Asians" also applies to Arabs, Iranians, Indians, Pakistanis. It does not mean East Asians as it does in za homeland.
[–]MorDon1 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 2 時間 前* (7子コメント)
You were no doubt thinking of Muslims due to the high prevalence of anti-Semitism in Muslim communities. Statistically that is true.
[–]DefluousBistup -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 2 時間 前 (6子コメント)
It's a dangerous game to tell people what they are thinking, especially with what you are implying.
[–]MorDon1 7 ポイント8 ポイント9 ポイント 1 時間 前* (5子コメント)
Don't be so naive. He implied strongly that the paper was deliberately not mentioning the race of the assailants due to their asian or arab backgrounds (which itself is incorrect).
[–]DefluousBistup 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 1 時間 前 (4子コメント)
Were the attackers not a bunch of white kids?
[–]MorDon1 7 ポイント8 ポイント9 ポイント 1 時間 前 (3子コメント)
They were, but /u/quantum4ce seems to imply that their race was something to note, meaning that they were not white.
[–]DefluousBistup [非表示スコア] 1 時間 前 (2子コメント)
I just thought /u/quantum4ce was implying that they didn't mention they were white. Which you have to admit, would make a lot more sense given the context.
Edit: I used they a million times.
[–]MorDon1 [非表示スコア] 1 時間 前 (1子コメント)
But why would that be of any note? He claims due to political correctness they didn't mention their race.
On the whole, the idea of "political correctness" is rarely applied to white people in the eyes of those who bang on about it.
edit: A look at his post history says it all.
[+]borsabil スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6 ポイント-5 ポイント-4 ポイント 1 時間 前 (1子コメント)
Clearly you're a total shitlord. Imagine thinking that Muslims would be likely responsible for an antisemitic attack in a European country? Pfffffft! Ridiculous and so it is..
[–]guydudeman [非表示スコア] 1 時間 前 (0子コメント)
It was neo-nazis. Your prejudice is clear.
[–]The5thElephant [非表示スコア] 1 時間 前 (0子コメント)
From what I can tell they were white.
Racist much?
[–]Phlargtarg [非表示スコア] 22 分 前 (0子コメント)
Didn't see a single Arab looking aggressor there. Also, don't think the Jerusalem post would be a PC shill.
[–]inakzeptabel 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 2 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Why would it matter anyways? What's the deal with not mentioning it?
[–]MusikLehrer [非表示スコア] 5 分 前 (0子コメント)
Jerusalem Times
Better not mention that they're white. I may fuck up our narrative!
[–]youareaspastic [非表示スコア] 45 分 前 (0子コメント)
Ignorant hick. Keep your comments to the redneck times.
[+]neato_Terrance スコアが基準値未満のコメント-31 ポイント-30 ポイント-29 ポイント 6 時間 前 (5子コメント)
Yes - non-whites can get away with hate crimes because, by definition, being non-white makes it impossible to be racist.
Note that I have to say "non-whites" because there are many minority communities in the United Kingdom that are actually white. Yet New Labour has ensured that all white people are tarred with the same "racist" brush so that communities that really do suffer are offered no protection.
[–]Yogpod 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 1 時間 前 (0子コメント)
WTF?? Racial profiling is still a thing, and it's not targeting white people.
[–]InternetOfficer 5 ポイント6 ポイント7 ポイント 2 時間 前 (3子コメント)
Stormfront has sprung a leak. Or 4chan. Or the bastard child of both.
[–]stumpy013 [非表示スコア] 1 時間 前 (2子コメント)
Or the bastard child of both.
/pol/
[–]skroll [非表示スコア] 27 分 前 (1子コメント)
You mean /r/worldnews
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Heyoooo
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