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This sub continues to disappoint... (self.Israel)

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[–]eaturbrainzsmolan alive in israel, smolan making album of israel 35 ポイント36 ポイント  (19子コメント)

You're not being downvoted for being right-wing. You're being downvoted for conflating yemanut with Zionism. That problem is so fucking intolerably common in today's Israeli political and media landscape that the Left fucking ran as "the Zionist Camp" and you still got people saying, "I can't vote for the Zionist Camp because they don't know anything about Zionism!"

So yes, it's fucking frustrating. I'm not downvoting you, and I approved this thread despite its being reported, but it's really fucking frustrating from our end that everyone assumes we're fucking traitors if we don't vote for the Right.

[–]123456789-0 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Curious: why did you decide not to get rid of this thread?

[–]eaturbrainzsmolan alive in israel, smolan making album of israel[M] 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because even if I totally disagree with his politics, and feel that butthurt about downvoting is pretty dumb, he's still not actually breaking any rules.

[–]StevefromRetail5 star general in the JIDF 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The fact that it got reported at all should say something about the user base that lurks in the background here. It's not your fault, I don't think there's any way to combat it. I've had a few people now follow me from different subs and harass me here, though. It's just an endless stream of neckbeards.

[–]tayaravakninDirty American[S] 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (10子コメント)

I have never said the Zionist Camp was anti-Zionist. Why am I being downvoted? I have never argued the left is traitorous. I have argued that I don't agree with what it believes is best, but why would I be downvoted in particular? Many others have too, for perfectly legitimate disagreements.

I appreciate you allowing the thread and your civility. I respect you and our disagreements. This is not a point to be made about you, but about those who are precisely unlike you.

[–]okpbroהצפון 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

we're well past zionism. we built this country on zionism. it's done, for the most part.

now we're in a survivalism phase. THEY makin' everyone fight against one another within ourselves. scaring us, as if we're unsafe like in 2000.

you can say the ZU campaign was aggressive and anti-right, but look what caused it. look at how left wingers were percieved during the last operation in ghaza. right wing hate towards left wingers went out of line constantly. violence on the internet and in left peaceful protests.

you can say some of ZUs members have opinions you don't agree on. but they're as zionist as anyone else. the right doesn't own the flag or zionism, even doe that's how they're advertising themselves and it's what they're injecting their voters with. "not voting right is voting against the flag" bullshit.

even when the country was in it's first footsteps, people had a lot of different opinions. no one was called a traitor.

[–]eaturbrainzsmolan alive in israel, smolan making album of israel 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

why would I be downvoted in particular?

I have not the slightest idea.

[–]tayaravakninDirty American[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

And that's the problem. I think we can agree there.

[–]TheMossad 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

^ This post used to be -3, just so people know how true his claims really were, not even his original post, this small post right above, where him and the mod agree. Downvote brigades are a very real thing here.

[–]ofekme -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Zionist Camp was anti-Zionist.

i think its a fair point for some ppl from that party and when i say this you can downvote me but talk to me aswell.

[–]Dasheru 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Stand behind your argument then, which people?

[–]MikeSethSAGE OF ALL FIELDS 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I approved this thread despite its being reported

I can't be the only one who sees a problem with the fact people would report a thread like this.

[–]eaturbrainzsmolan alive in israel, smolan making album of israel[M] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well nothing tells us who reported a thread. So we can't do anything about that.

[–]leo_trotzky 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

it's really fucking frustrating from our end that everyone assumes we're fucking traitors if we don't vote for the Right.

Equally is frustrating that people needed to open /r/Israel2 because you were banning people that you do not politically agree .

[–]eaturbrainzsmolan alive in israel, smolan making album of israel[M] 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

There are lots of yemanim on /r/Israel. Like you, for instance. Your tinfoil hat is showing.

[–]leo_trotzky 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I am center right, not yemani. Still you should not have banned Zionist redditors while the haters are roaming free on this subreddit..