>>13179480
But 360 attack healing 2 at once is like having 720 attack in situations where more than one person is taking damage. I get that they're really weak when tanking with one unit, which is a really common situation, but it sounds like you're undervaluing their strength in the situations that normal healers are kinda weak against, widespread damage from magic/poison/lots of ranged stuff everywhere

>>13181469
It actually rises to three targets after Awakening I believe too. So it's 1080 attack in ideal situations, + whatever they're reducing from terrain (Extreme-Tier Poison Swamp maps is 40 hp/second per unit). 70% of that multiplier by the fact that you're going to be using 7-8 units towards the end is pretty huge.

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FML
this is the best i can do so far... can't even * the map

>>13182071
Nigga what are you even doing?
>The 2 Healers are separated
>Mage on inside of the formation

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>>13182080
I have tried the videos' formation and my units are to shitty & low lv to take it

Ended up rushing thru all my units (on later tries) and this was as far as it went

3*ed every other map except for "The witch strikes back II"

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>>13182071
>>13182080
>>13182156
git gud

Sybilla and Berna were thrown there last, ignore them.

>>13182156
The formation you're using should be even harder then. Since your healers are separated the unit you use to tank the first Baphomet wouldn't be getting anywhere near enough healing. And since your second Mage is pulled back, your units up front take a lot more damage than they need to, and your own mage will be doing a lot less damage.

>>13182192
you described it very well
i'm gonna bring their levels up more before trying that map again, and then re-do the video formation (for like the 4th time)

Thank you for finishing that giant in time, Lumi. Got my first Melissa.

The wiki's got the majority of the information fir the event up guys. This happened around 2 or 3 but I was too busy to really post anything.
http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/The_Witch_Girl

these drop rates are complete shit, should I even bother with the event after ***ing everything? I don't feel like losing a week of my normal progress for a chance on a second platinum witch or some silvers.

>>13183469
If you intend to use the platinum witch at all, I'd at least try to farm up a second one for that -1 cost. Still, do it in moderation, maybe ignore it entirely on monday while you're busy farming armors.

>>13183469
17 runs here all I got was a level 8 bronze this event is a complete waste of time a resource one would think they want people to get hookend on the game with the event not frustrated sad thing is I really want to CR Belinda so I have to keep trying at least for tomorrow

>>13183500
If I ever get a second, should I use that for CC or the -1 cost?

>>13183469
I guess I got lucky with my drop rate. Grabbed a second Belinda when I was trying to 3 star "The Witch Strikes Back II"
Now, I just need to 3 star the Banquet.

>>13183469
What are the drop rates for the silver units?

>>13183664
Garbage, I ran the last map 20 times and got one Soma.

>>13183664
2 stamina map 5%
3 stamina map 8%

>>13183676
Thanks, based anon. Is it the same for fairies?

>>13183727
There was a guy who posted all the drop rate on the last thread.
Iron, Bronze, Silver fairy 15%
Gold fairy 10%
Platinum, Black fairy 5%

>>13183766
honestly, this doesn't sound likely when people do 15+ runs with no drops at all

>>13183562
This isn't LoV, to CC a plat you need 3 silvers (archer, mage, witch for witches) not it's own copy. So minus cost and skill up is the only effect you can get from feeding the second.

>>13183773
No, it is rather probable.

For 5% chance after 15 runs you only have 53% chance to have seen the drop.
For 8% it's 71% but that's still not any sort of a guarantee.

>>13183792
(FYI to get a 90% chance on seeing that 8% drop at lease once you need to go 28 runs. And there's still bigger chance for you to NOT have seen it ever than for you to get it from the next run.)

>>13183676
Must've been lucky. Got Valerie and Leanne on my first tries while doing the maps

>>13183784
Oh... true, anyway got my second after 3 runs, first two I got fairies and third dropped second Bellinda, guess I'm done.

Which units are a priority to CC first? I've already gotten Soma and Katie, thinking of doing Cloris next.

>>13183896
A Healer,Armor and Mage should be your priority.

>>13183896
Healers. The increased range is hella useful (for instance on the current event's hardest map you can put CC'd healers out in the back and they'll read the frontlines, while non-CC would have to be put up front.)

>>13183899
Witches takes priority more than armors and don't forget about Archers.

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Update from
>>13182071
>>13182156

>was doing a 0 kill streak
>not hard
>then the baphomets came
>one got thru
>lost 1 unit to that one
>1 killed, 1 passed.
>1*ed the map
>Don't care all i wanted was the witch

>>13183985
Don't forget to put down your Prince.
With the Hero title he gives a 12% boost to all units deployed.

>>13183899
>>13183918
Gotta find a place to get all the fodder first. I'm only up to Gatehouse Battle and I can barely 2* it

>>13184319
Past Wolfpack all of the maps give pretty similar fodder until the Desert Maps get released. And a lot of the Desert Maps are DPS-races, so you need multiple CCed ranged units for them.

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Lumi please

>>13184327
The 30 cost only requires a single CC'd witch, which makes it really easy to farm.

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I really can't even 1star Castle Retake
Even if the black knight doesn't spawn in the first wave, I get overwhelmed by the time dragon comes. Which units should I focus on? Soma is 50CCed

24 runs not a single Belinda drop
Kill me now please

>>13184557
>Using trash HA instead of based Berenice and Julius
It's like you want to lose, even the silver HA is better.

>>13184811
Is Garret really that bad? I figured gold unit would be better, is it because he has attack-focused skill?

>>13184859
No one uses Garret except for on male-only maps.

>>13184811
Iunno, I like Garret. I don't generally have survival problems, and he can murder shit on occasion.

>>13183766
I hate getting black fairies when I don't even have a black unit. Waste of my unit slots...

>>13185046
Yea, I've got whole three of them sitting in, waiting for if I ever roll a black from gacha.

>>13185060
I rolled three times since the black event for gacha started, got 3 silvers

>>13185060
Counting the one I just got from area 6, I now have 4 sitting around. But at least I managed to get my second belinda a few runs later.

Once you got 3* on all Missions can you only get Sacred Crystals from login?

>>13185148
Yep, mainly.

Each new event is a bunch of new maps to three-star though.

>>13184859
Garret is pretty good actually. He's like a knockoff Dina. But he's not the kind of armor you want tanking a bunch of hard hitters.

So what does Deine's Heavy Shield ability actually do? It's not giving me +2 unit points at the start, nor when I deploy her.

>>13184859
As far as pure tanking goes, he is indeed inferior to Leanne - Max Garret has only 402 Defence while Leanne gets up to 426 without skill active. (And Berenice is 483.) All his gold advantage has gone into 350 more HP and 100 more Attack. So he is good for tanking a stream of tiny mobs that need to be killed as they come but you can just slap a Soldier on that task.

Nonetheless, he's useable and if you've already gone to the effort of growing him, keep using him.

>>13185191
Nvm, I figured it out. It's adding 2 to the cost.

>>13185203
It seems like he's a lot better before you're able to max them, as leannes better defense comes from bonding and chances are you'll want others at 100% first rather than her.

>>13185225
Good point. Without affection bonuses, he is ahead by general defence. Although Leanne is still good for tanking big trouble due to her skill.

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Reckon I could 3star the hard monday daily?
I tried it once last week slightly weaker and it went badly.

>>13185300
Should be doable, I think. Tank the first wave with Garret, he should kill the mooks and keep the heavies up under heals. Don't hurry to deploy your ranged units though, let the points accumulate.

Oh yeah, add some mages, even bronze or irons in order to blow up the last witch wave. Withdraw Garret for Leanne and gold princess somewhen down the road so their skills will be up for goats. (Or maybe not, what are their defences on this level? If Leanne under her skill is not much better you can keep Garret and just add the princess for the other goat.)

>>13185300
Oh yeah also, your healer is CC'd, so she will reach the ranged frontline from the back line.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm23365314
You can put her down in the position of the upper witch in this video and she should reach both ranged positions that would take damage.
You can put Fedora up in the backrow too and activate her skill for when ranged-shooting waves come in.

>>13185466
I'm sure ur good intentions will be appreciated, but he was talking about the monday daily, not the event map.

>>13185572
...Yeah I did a dumb.

>>13185074
It doesn't actually increase the rates for getting blacks, which is always 3%. It's deceptive, it just increases the chance, given that you get a certain rarity, for units of that rarity to be the ones in the event.

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y u do dis? (image)

i have 2 questions guys:

LoV: Fortune teller Melissa & La qua are limited to the event period right? (no dropable after that)

Aigis: Does Belinda can drop from ANY event map? or just the last one?

>>13185971
>Aigis: Does Belinda can drop from ANY event map? or just the last one?
IIRC from maps 3 and 6, with the harder having bigger chance.

>>13185971
She can drop from all of them I think, but the last is the only one with the guaranteed drop on your first time, and the farther down you go, the worse her drop rate is. All of this type of event are like this, I believe.

loli in aigis when

fucking europe

Hmm, this temporary comp is too low spec to even handle Aigis. Nothing like getting a drop only to lose it because the game freezes.

By the way, has anyone gotten Christoph yet? Looks like I'll have to grind the Pursuit map a bit when I get back to my real comp.

>>13186034
I've got a couple of him from gacha, but the maps a shit.

>>13186001
No, the japwiki specifically notes her as only drops from 3 and 6.

1:Valerie and trash
2:Silver bandit guy and trash
3:Bellinda and irons
4:Silver thief
5: Silver healer (cowtits in jap, but changed to new guy here) and Leanne
6: Bellinda and Soma

Anyone else noticed drop rates from regular maps have dropped a lot?

I've been farming dragon hunting and where before the update I'd get 4-5 units a time mostly with the occasional 1-2, now I often get 1 unit only and occasionally get a max of 3 units per map

>>13186118
I've actually noticed I've been getting high drops. I used to get mostly 2-3 drops with Wolfpack now I usually get 4-5.

>>13185971

My awareness on Belinda drop rates is 4% on map 3, 8% on map 6.

I had 20 crystals and decided to use them on premium summons.

2x Lv.20 Cecily (That makes 5 copies I have of her.)

1x Lv.20 Leeanne (Should I use this copy to CR my CC'd Leeanne or keep it?)

1x Lv.8 Themis (My first princess. Is she a good unit?)

>>13186167
*Lv.5 Themis

>>13186167
Princesses are good because their attacks do magic damage. You might find her helpful on Monday dungeon.

>>13186176
I can already easily 3-star Monday N. I don't think I'm ready for H though.

>>13186167
One of the worst princesses, still very good due to her magic attack.

My Themis is weak 14 lvls lower than my Sherry yet her stats will be at 330 attack and 334 defense with her level 2 ability active, Sherry on the other hand has 904 attack and 251 defense with hers active.

>>13186191
Maybe not yet, but you might have just gotten one step closer. I think people were discussing strats for Monday H last thread, it might have some helpful stuff for you if you missed that.

>>13186142
and yet on 26 runs I have got 0

>>13186167
>1x Lv.8 Themis (My first princess. Is she a good unit?)
Pretty good. They're good at killing armours due to magic damage type, and with her skill she gets 390 def, so she can tank it as well as she gives it.

>>13186167
>1x Lv.20 Leeanne (Should I use this copy to CR my CC'd Leeanne or keep it?)
Keep her, I say. You may need her to CC some rarer armour you may get later on.

Do you guys think we're getting Gold Rush next or Dragonnewt Invasion?

>>13186371
I hope we get a gold rush or a newer event that has a better drop rate.

>>13186385
I've actually noticed that the first couple events have a large concentration of Black Event Units (3 Black Units in 9 Events) then there's no other Black Event Units for 25 events (not counting drop rate up events).

>>13186385
I hope too ,sitting at 31 runs here with 0 Belinda drops.

>>13186415
I hope you're not wasting Crystals on Stamina. Drop rate on later event units hits 50% (Bellinda caps at 8%).

>>13186422
I honestly don't give a shit anymore if I dont get her I'm probably quitting(and I have Sybilla Nanally and Despara)I have no interest on a game that try so hard to rip me off.
I used 3 crystals already and I dont fell like stoping now is going to be good since I already used so much stamina on this.

>>13186396
Well they already threw an event black in the gacha so who knows what they will pull.

>>13186444
And here I just got my third Belinda when I was hoping for a Soma. Then again, maybe it's making up for the fact that I did the spirit daily a 2-3 times on friday and god absolutely nothing from it.

>refresh stam
>suddenly, maintenance

fuck

>>13186444
Don't fall for the sunken cost or gambler's fallacy. The stamina you have already used has absolutely 0 bearing on what you should do. And don't be in such a hurry to pour your crystals into an event like this that lasts a while either.

>>13186680
where? im in both LoV and Aigis ATM

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>Don't worry
>We don't need bars anyway

I get that when you WANT the drop and the time is low you start brawling it all you can but this was not even 15 min away from spawn

lol

Not hating just thought it was fast

>>13186862
jp aigis

>>13186118
It's impossible to get 5 drops on Dragon Hunting.

Regardless, my luck is unchanged on this map. Sometimes I'll get the full 4 drops, sometimes I won't get any. Only difference is that damn mage appears every time now, so I have to use Nanaly's skill to kill him quickly so my units in front of the cave don't get fucked.

>>13187041
I'm pretty sure you can get 2 each of the iron archers and the bronze mage. Could swear that I've gotten that before

>>13187058
I haven't done dragon hunting but I can confirm that many maps with 2 types of iron drop seem to have that pattern, despite that getting every drop is extremely rare.

>>13187058
>>13187065
There's only three archers in the map period, so that's entirely false.

The wiki confirms it anyway. One of the helmet iron archers, two of the bandana iron archers.

>>13187077
Unit type doesn't matter for trash drops. I've gotten archer drops from soldiers, and soldier drops from archers.

>>13187085
Gonna call bullshit on that. The only time a human-type unit has dropped something that wasn't their class is the fairy drops in the current event maps.

Even if that were somehow the case, there's still only four human enemies in Dragon Hunting. Three archers, one mage. Unless you're somehow going to convince me an ogre or dragon dropped a unit for you.

>>13187104
Also, IIRC, Christopher/Dorca in Witch's Pursuit drops from mages, since there aren't any enemy healers. That's the only other exception I can think of.

>>13187104
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCrMK4BggwM
Literally the second mission in the game. 2 Bandit Enemies. 3 Bandit drops on this map. Oh gee, I wonder how there's magically an invisible 3rd bandit who sometimes gives an extra drop?

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>>13187124
You can stop being wrong anytime now.

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Just got my first Themis. Where do I place her?

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>>13187384
This is my Unit List

What is this game and why is it using shitty Fire Emblem sprites?

>>13187437
This is the prototype for fire emblem awakening.

>>13187041

Before the update, I actually have gotten 5 drops from dragon hunting often enough. Pretty sure there were 47 enemies then, not the fixed 46 we get now.

>>13187538
I leveled from 101 to 110 on that map prior to the update and never saw 47. Only 42-46.

>>13187553

Hmm I might be mixing it up with Return to Ruins.

>>13187065
oh wait yeah i have i used to grind that map i just forgot about it lol

>>13186167
Themis is def-focused princess so she's not that great, but she has a paizuri scene so I say its ok

Who is better, Katie or Julian? Who should I CC first? From what I can guess by their stats, Julian has more atk and hp, and Katie has more def? Which is more useful for a soldier?
Also, deployment cost increase seems like a real bitch for soldier units, will there be Katie dupes in future?

>whycantiholdallthesebelindas.jpg

what should i be doing with them, just trying to min cost her?

>>13187793
Combine them for min cost and skill increase.
Her skill doesn't change with CC so you are not missing out on anything by feeding them raw.

>>13187141
>2 Sybilla
I'm jelly

>>13187788
I chose katie. Mostly because her affection is easier to farm. I just CCd mine and she can now block 3 units and her skill gives 15 with a cost of 13.

>>13187797
Cost Reduction doesn't reset once you CC right?

>>13187899
>reset once you CC
Nope, it carries over.

Right now I have two gold healers, Fedora and Iris. Which should I focus on leveling? I was leaning towards Iris since Fedora's range skill seems less useful than on archers, any thoughts?

Where am I going to get all those crystals for my rolls?

>>13187941
There's more to consider than just skill, also look at stats and awakening skill. Fedora gets -1 cost, Iris gets an ability that heals all units you have deployed by 500 hp at the instant you deploy her, sounds useful to throw out at the climax of a battle.

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I can farm Monday's N with ease
but whenever i try H is a freaking nightmare
can someone post a team that's suficient to 3* it?
or just say which units at which lv to use

Also happy armour hunting

>>13188056
I am a lvl47 prince and still too scared to try hardmode monday daily, N is easy as shit. Should I try it?

>>13185300
Thats me and I just got beaten slowly on H monday daily
>>13188074
You might be able to win if your teams close to mine, I do have about 30 more combined levels than in that pic from last night though.

>>13188096
nope, I only CCed Soma so far. Guess I'll stick to N for now

Definitely doing a card roll tomorrow. Running out of cards to level up. Currently 4Ming a R card

>>13188096
Tried it once more and killed 24 out of 30, I gotta be stronger I guess.

>>13188056

The secret to Monday H is to not try to tank everything at the earliest chokepoint. The first armour will take a really long detour. Take that time to put CC Katie at far left and CC Chloris at far right. Swap Katie for prince after she calls help. 2 mages at left and 2 witches at right plus healers as appropriate will get you the rest of the way.

>>13188116

I know that feel, at this rate I'll actually get round to starting my 4M Delta project.

in LoV, are skill-focused cards shit? I have lvl50 non-evolved Yukina who deals decent damage with her magic skill, but she fucking never uses it, preferring to spam normal atk for 0 damage

Anyone here actually bought crystals?

>>13188177

11 for Monday daillies. Probably won't for the witch event unless I fail to get Christoph.

>>13188170

Later on, there will be fucked up tough bosses that can't be seriously damaged by anything BUT big skill valks. But that's for future updates.

>>13188185
You use those 11 for stamina refill?
I've gotten shit rolls for the event and I'm tempted to buy for the rolls

>>13188192
the event doesn't have better odds than any other time, still 3% for blacks, don't expect to get one

class changing a worthwhile unit should be higher priority for crystal use than rolling, i reckon

>>13188216
Damn, I spent all my 15 crystals on 3 premium rolls. I'm at a stop point now because I don't have a good enough team to advance further and I'm having trouble farming fodder as well.
I actually posted my unit list here
>>13187386

>>13188220
I guess I'd try to CC a healer if I were you.

>>13188227
Yeah, was going for that as well as Cloris, except I didn't know what was going on when I first started this game and ended up using my second Alissa for levelling up

Are Alissa and Dorca worth 50CCing? Or should I just 30CC them?

>>13188254
30CC is only ever "worth" it if you intend to replace the unit soon or just want it for the scene.

>>13188192

All 11 on cha/sta refills for Monday, yeah. I don't think I will ever push the gacha button in Aigis. Having an all-CC'd silver team was a higher priority for me and it's paying off in spades already.

LoV at least uses a different currency for the gacha and offers you good bargains and a free-alternate way to acquire them. But my main issue with Aigis is that I have to baby sit it until I'm at the AFK point on a map (and that it's a high resource game that older comps can't handle well).

>>13188264
One problem with Aigis is the extremely slow income of crystals. After the story missions and this event's, there's basically no other option other than to buy them

>>13188270
just gotta get the deluxe stamp card to get you a whole 5 extra crystals over the course of a month!

Curious about how many runs it took you guys to get some Belindas I'm going mental here have not saw one here on over 30 runs

>>13188291
Another problem is the garbage value you get for actually spending your money.
For 5$ you get ONE premium roll which doesn't even guarantee you a useful unit.
LoV's model is much better in my opinion.

>>13188300
Some people have gotten really lucky and had at least 4 or 5 copies of her. The chances are only 8% on the last map so keep trying

>>13188308
The nutaku owners have mentioned adjusting the business model for western audiences.

>>13188308
Aigis while a great game, because it's more unique as a tower defense type, is a total cashgrab. There $ to crystals rate is totally horrendous. Never played LoV, but even mobile games have greater bang to buck.

>>13188300
I stopped trying the event once I got a second copy. Because I need dailies more than I need silvers/Bellinda. Extremely lucky since I got 2nd in 3 runs.

>>13188310
yeah but even with 8% chance you would think on 32 runs I should get at least one

>>13188300
I got one on my first run of map #3. (And then the guaranteed drop on map #6). I think I'm at around 15 runs without another drop though.

>>13188331
But that's like, 8 out of 100 runs! Only 68 more times!

>>13188457
and 4 out of 50 and 2 out of 25 that's my point I can't believe my luck and that's making me crazy

Is Hunter Stray a good roll? His skill seems worse than Soma's, so I am not sure if I should invest into him. Not to mention he's a guy, so no affection either

>>13188828
double shot is actually fairly good. You shoot two arrows instead of one, essentially doubles his damage dealt. Though attack up is better than double in my opinion, due to the way defense works.

As for their damage, at max cc level, 50 for Soma 60 for Stray, Soma has 259 base he has 303. Their max with affection is 355 for Soma and and 357 for Stray.

Stray can also be awakened, being gold. Silver can't awaken. At max awaken his stats are 421 attack with 320 range. Though he does attack slower after awakening.

Whether you want to invest in him or not is up to you. He's not going to be able to compete with other gold or higher archers, but simply due to awakening he beats any silver.

Can you fuck the goddess and the assistant in Aigis?

>>13188912
The assistant yes, goddess not yet.

>>13188912
If by "fuck" you mean getting assraped everytime you roll, then yes.

What's the drop rate for platinums on Normal?

Never got one in three weeks.

>>13189189
I got 2 in 3 weeks, maybe I will get 1 more today

>>13189189
Easy 3%
Normal 5%
Hard 15%

>>13189189
>>13189214
I have still yet to get a platinum from hard.

I've gotten 1 from easy and 3 from normal, all hard has been giving me since I started 3 starring it is four golden armors.

Just started out aigis the other day, how often does stamina regenerate? Do I get the full amount back once the timer runs out or do I only get one.

Couldn't find anything about it in the how to play thing

>>13189516
you get 1 stamina point per hour

>>13189516
1 stamina point per hour. Aim to clear the event for now, it'll be over in a few days.

How does Victoria compare to Bashira?

>>13189576
Bashira is better in burst DPS against low armored targets, Victoria against high armored targets / in sustained DPS (her skill lasts longer). As for Awakening Passive, Bashira is an Anti-Archer, Victoria is an Anti-Mage.

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Shitty lottery runs 2 weeks in a row. Not a single good SR from Tsars. I'm done with this fucking game.

>>13189707
save up and do 10 at once

i got a black fairy from the event, did i do gud?

anyone else getting server error 400?

>>13190711
Neither in Eng LoV nor Eng Aigis

>>13190711
Anyone else has gotten this error?
a server error occurred.
please try later.
error:400

I get it on any account even new ones,on any browser and even after deleting my cache and cookies

Immortal beast?? How??

>>13190711
Me too, I got it while I was hitting a dread. Then tried to logout-in then it says I'm logged in on another device. Can't get in right now

>>13190711
>>13191174
Yup, got it for LoV.

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36 gold and 1 plat
could have been worse i guess
how did you guys do?

I have the problem with LoV now, i can't kill my dread if this doesnt get fixed soon

>>13191423
Are you still unable to get in?
I get to the start screen click on it and when the game is initializing I get the error 400

>>13191550
I did 14 runs on Hard and got 1 plat armor, didn't count the gold ones.

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>>13191591
when i clicked on the Start it passes to the brown-ish buffering screen then freeze

i'm able to play normally now for some reason

>>13190677
No, there are easier ways to get them. You should be sad that this rare drop wasn't a Belinda.

>>13190711
>>13191145
I get it occasionally but reloading seems to fix it every time.

>>13191640
>>13191645
by the way.I was asking on aigis
nothing seem to works

Any tips for Tuesday hard?

>>13191672
Get your asshole prepared for wolf rush.

>>13191591
Yeah I can now. LoV player btw

>>13191691
Yeah but, like, how?

>>13191742
CCed Katie, CCed Phyllis, multiple high level min-cost bronze soldiers, and mutliple CCed ranged units that can one/two shot gray wolves.

If I want to CC Daniela, I need to use a silver archer, if I use another Daniela, does it count for a CR/Skill Up?

Because I have 2 spare Somas and 1 spare Daniela and wondering if I should use one Soma for CC then CR Daniela with the spare.

>>13192226

No, consuming for CC does not count for CR/Skill Up.

>>13192232
Thanks, I'll use a spare Soma then.

Did something change on the nutaku website? Now when I try to open LoV on Puffin it shows some black avatar image and I can't zoom out the screen anymore

Got my priest christopher to drop first try today, having already gotten the spare copy of leeanne for CC needed, I can start spamming the 6th map now.
Only got one exp armour yesterday too and it was on my first try.

Why does 2k gacha love fucking with me, 3 times I've gotten silvers from it, all of them bandits. Is this some sort of a sign.

>>13192856
I got Julian from the 2k gacha, and it was probably my best roll ever so far. My premiums keep giving me silver healers and Conrads. I did get a Themis from premium, but she's not really that good

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What should be my priorities to lv up next? I'm in constant lack of silver units because of not having an idea what the fuck to do after starting the game.

Also, got 3 platinium armors yesterday, but I guess I need faries to make a decent use of them.

>>13192960
Healer -> Bashira -> Despera. If you don't have the Silvers for Bashira/Despera then Katie first.

>>13192960
>>13192968
Personally I'd say archer and witch first, then healer.

CC'd archer is basically a must have, so is witch for any of the harder maps. Healer is mostly a luxury.

>no platinum drops this monday
I guess I am stuck for another week, no way I can clear castle retake without a CCed Cloris

>>13192968
>>13192960

Thanks. I lack one silver mage to CC Desparia and 2 archers for Bashira. Trying to farm Somas at the last event map currenty. Is it worth it? I didn't get any drop at all since like 10 runs. Should I farm faries or affection items instead?

Does anyone else use puffin mobile app to play LoV?

>>13193154
The last map gives belindas and black faeries as well. You need all 3, it's worth it.

>>13192544

I noticed that too, hope they fix it within a few days' time.

>>13192544
>>13193445
Oh...missed your post...ya, that's what I was posting about too. So I guess since you guys are having the same issue it is from nutaku's end. I sent reports to both nutaku and puffin. Really hope they fix it...I mean, you'd think they would want people playing as much as possible

>>13193197
doesn't work for me I use photon

Ok got my Christoph, now to grind map 6 while it lasts and see how my Soma turns out afterwards.

Just got 2 drops from the last event map, a bronze archer from a regular archer that I convinced myself was a Soma and a black fairy that dropped from a gargoyle that I thought was a Belinda.

So fucking annoying having other drops on these maps. I don't even have a black unit.

>>13194005
The event unit for what will probably be the next event is a Black Unit. So if you can git gud by then, you might have one then.

Is there a fast way to grind my units up in Aigis early on?

>>13194312
Depends what you mean by "early".

>>13194373
The last new mission I did was Wolves Den, if that's any indication.

>>13194455
You're probably stuck farming Pastoral Gate until you can clear the 20+ charisma maps then.

just got a second belinda. I should just feed her to the first one, right? Should I throw in a spirit of platinum?

>>13194312
yes cheat engine

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Finally 3*ed that map... such a pain
now i can finish my homework in peace

>>13194762
But Anon, there's still one map left.

>>13194767
yeah but i knew i could 3* that one
the last map i know is out of the question until i grind to bring up my units' lvl

i don't know that Anon you are talking about, i'm Qw

>>13194825
the last map is like the easiest one, just go with the wizard spamming strat

Woo, finally got around to 3*'ing MAN ISLAND on hard. Kinda weird how much easier Wednesday dailies are than the other days, anyone else notice that or is it just me?

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>Close to 20 runs without any drop at last event map
>today 3 Somas drop on all 3 runs

Well, I guess my patience has paid off

>>13196758
I had a second Belinda and a Soma drop at once yesterday, I don't think I'll be getting anything else off this event. Hopefully next one has more generous drop rates, and comes soon

>>13196816
further events' drop rates cap at 50% on evet units, this was the shittiest rate so just be patient and be prepared for the events to come

>>13196816
>>13196896
Is she really that rare? I have 5 copies of her, probably getting more later.

Of course, I've been dumping every single stamina point into farming the last map ever since the event started.

>>13197049
Getting 4 extra Belindas from the last map would take 150 stamina on average, I think? I'm happy just to have gotten a second one for that guaranteed cost reduction and skill up.

>>13197049
You're a pretty lucky bastard.

It was what, five days or so? On maximum usage of normal stamina regen, it's 40 runs. You can expect a couple extras, but 4 is pretty lucky.

>>13197056
>>13197063
Sweet, hopefully I can max her cost reduction.

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Who do I level next, I can CC any of the rest but the archer and I don't use Themis much.

>>13197440
Also I have no EXP armours.

>>13197440
I would do Belinda next.

is it me, or Toast to Men is infinitely harder than Skyfallen Gift? Is it because I don't have male healers and archers?

Is it worth doing the 8k exp grind from 40 - 50 in order to CC if Monday Daily was unkind and didn't drop a single Platinum?

I only have a 50CC30 Soma and I'm stuck at Castle Retake. My Bernice, Cloris, Katie, are all lvl 40 w/ less than 69 to 41, and my Valerie and Alissa are lvl 40.

>>13197657
Have patience, you are gimping the unit in the long run by doing the evolution below 50.

>>13197657
I would leave it for the next week and grind somebody else.

If you just flatly dont have anybody else useful to level up, only then get 40-50 on lesser units.
(also get your golds to 41 and plats to 42, due to higher XP requirements they need a little headstart for the jump)

Never do <50 CC unless it's skillup fodder.

Sorry, didn't convey what I meant well enough. I mean is it worth while to just grind with crappy fodder units even though it's so expensive to do so from 40 - 50.

I have 0 intentions of CCing pre-50. I just don't know if I should continue using my fodder from grinding on getting units to 40, or just start focusing on sucking up the expensive grind for Cloris to 50?

>>13197657
I wouldn't use a plat armor on a silver unit anyways Katie on the other hand is kind of important to get 50CC

>>13197694
How are you on Gold?
I would focus on getting other units to 40 first with your fodder if the 40 to 50 grind would leave you bankrupt.

>>13197694
Well my advice remains pretty much unchanged >>13197672

>>13197719

Yep, typed my message before I noticed yours sadly. I've already gone ahead and gotten my Golds to the appropriate spot (40 w/ less than 69 exp based off the XP Tables)

What's the bare minimum needed to get through Castle Retake? I've seen Eth Eternal's videos, but even then he had 2 CCed units to even 1 star it.

>>13197701

I intend to CC in the following order, Cloris, Katie, Bernice, Alissa, Valerie (possibly others before Alissa/Valerie if I get them to 40).

>>13197706

Not amazingly, I've only played for 13 days so I've only been able to catch the 2 Mondays so far. I'm at about 68k due to grinding so many units up to 40 with fodder units.

>>13197706
I remember this happened to me on my second week,it's a good advice

Remember the days when dreads and neos were a huge community effort to take down? Nowadays it's not unusual to see them go to 1 HP in 20 minutes.

>>13197729

If you ask me, spend some time grinding up some min-cost bronze dudes. Especially soldiers and archers. Heck, don't worry about min-costing them for now, just grind some bronze dudes. You'll have plenty to min cost them with once you're rich enough to dump into shrine.

>>13197753

What should I do if I'm nearly out of Unit Space holding onto my Silvers and Spirits for CCing purposes.

I'm at 64/72 already (4x Plats, 1x Spirit of Plat, 5x Golds, 3x Spirit of Gold, 40x Silvers, 4x Spirit of Silver, 2x Bronze, 4x Iron).

I figured if I could at least CC one or two of my units, I'd be able to have the space to keep a couple of Min-Cost Bronzes which would help for the Weds Daily.

>>13197657
>I only have a 50CC30 Soma and I'm stuck at Castle Retake
You're basically me, I only CCed Soma and don't even use her for Castle Retake. I wish I invested in Cloris instead

How should I be leveling my units? Just dump Irons and Bronzes on them? Started playing yesterday.

>>13197823
yes dont use anything above bronze as fooder

>>13197823
yes, and don't use fairies for anything but evolution and platinum armors, its not worth it. Also don't bother leveling bronze before feeding them, the exp growth from levels is bad, not even linear

Which is the best free witch Cloris or Bellinda? Both are at 12 cost but don't know which to level/CC first.

If it matters, I have CC'd Daniela but no healers yet.

>>13197915
Bellinda as you can get extra copies for CR and Skill level ups.

>>13197915
Belinda gets better boost from affection and boosts all witches by 7%, from what I hear

>>13197940

Belinda boosting all witches requires Awakening, which is not available until some future update.

>>13197915
50CC60 Chloris can reach 366 attack.
50CC70 Bellinda can reach 433 attack.
After Awakening the gap will widen because Bellinda will buff herself by +7%.

That's a pretty big damage gap, there's also a pretty big HP gap too. 50CC60 Chloris at 1097 and 50CC70 Bellinda at 1341.

The only real argument for Chloris is that if you level up her skill, she'll do more DPS during skill activation.

>>13197501
Probably because you have no archers. Grind a few out as well as some bandits. You'll definitely be able to finish N with at least a One star.

>>13197501
Yeah, a healer is vital. I managed to pull it off with level capped guys, but shit's hard still.

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First normal yielded this while 3 hard runs resulted in 0 drops total

I have better luck with normal dailies compared to the hard version

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Huh, I don't think I've seen that one around the previews.

>>13198888
ohh baby, a lady bandit. Maybe she won't be shit like other bandits

>>13198902
It's one of the two new ones actually. The other increases fairies drop chance and buffs defence of everybody on the map with her skill.

>>13198902
With her active, her attack can reach batshit insane levels.

>>13198902
She's actually the single highest damaging unit in the game maxed out.

Just got princess themis from the premium summon, is she worth using? New to aigis.

>>13198919
I've got that on Dahlia (skill level 4, x2.3 attack to a total of 1225)
But I guess now I'll have two of them (and a new place to dump conrads)

>>13198930
but she's still a physical atk unit, right? Can she handle armors?

>>13198930
Higher than Deine's 5x damage?

>>13198932
Yes. Princesses are very strong, so even if she's the weakest of them she's good.

>>13198932
She's the worst princess, but she's still a princess. Ignores defense of anything so they're godly.

>>13198937
Bandits get attack bonus against armors once awakened.

>>13198945
Forgot about the new armor, she has 2630 with her skill maxed, Lyle has 2167. So Deine hits harder but significantly slower, Lyle hits faster but butchers her defense.

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Now that's what I call neat end of the event. Though it makes me wonder if I should push my luck even more instead of farming red crystals tomorrow.

>>13199005
Wait, the event is ending already? I thought it would run until they roll in the next one.

>>13199025
Its over on the 20th at 6:00, I assume its 6 am so tomorrow is the last day.

>>13199025
It ends at friday

>>13199029
>>13199032
Well damn, I need to get my farming into gear then.

>>13197930
>>13197940
>>13198160
I'll grab Bellinda then thanks. Still a long time to CC her unfortunately.

Christ, I've been rolling the normal premium summon on JP instead of the healer/soldier one because I really need anything else other than healers but I keep rolling more healers from it.

should i feed these extra soma copies to her before i cc her, or should i wait?

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So i logged in and my 4B hana was gone... she was locked so i couldnt feed her to another card nor sell her
Now im rushing to 4B a luca to fill that space in my fire set
FML

Anyone has experienced something similar?

Just got a 3rd Belinda and figured that was all my luck used up for this event, one round later I got my 1st Soma and a 4th Belinda.

>>13200123
That sounds horrible! Bummer....Write a comment to support.

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My first one! yay!

>3 exp away from leveling up and running out of stamina
It's kind of annoying

>>13200582
better than 3 exp from leveling when you're at or near max

Are Thursday dailies worth doing after getting the golden mage? Is anyone actually trying to get that 200 crystal unit?

>>13200929
Yes, it is better to store Magic Crystals so you can buy very useful units added to the trading post later on.
Also when the awakening system comes, you will be trading Awakening Fairy using Magic Crystals.
I already bought the 200 crystal unit.

>>13200929
I got both of them. Anyway, plenty more other units will cycle in, so if you want a black unit, the cheapest way might be to save up 300 of them.

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new jp event

drop event for this lass. An alchemist apparently. Looks to be a short range physical mage-like unit, lowers defense of those hit? You can also buy!? silver units with gold straight up.

the cost is 100,000 though. Which is kinda absurd. But I guess if you got a bunch of gold armors and really want a certain unit that's for sale you could.

>>13201216
The Subjugation Event has also started. Special pirate girl, her rarity at the end will depend on the total number of subjugation kills of every player. She can reach up to Platinum if we get 600 million kills.

>>13201228
Well it just started and we're at 2 million already so... should work out.

>>13201228
>>13201236
Did you guys get the pirate girl as well after the first run? Himeuta says she's supposed to show up in the trading post at the end of the event.

carp dude i look away for half a second and you melt the dragon i just put up i need to LV my units more because damn

>>13201239
Yep.

>>13201216

100k gold for a specific silver is a bargain. That's some 16+ gold armours which is ~4 monday dailies. Given the shrine gives you a random silver on average every 60k gold, I'd take that price.

Looks like you can no longer cheat on jp aegis.

>>13201330
but every several million gold the shrine might give you something better than a silver!!

So, Why is Crystal Keeper N 6 damn stamina? do you get a boat load of crystals for it or what?

Whats the best way to get a platinum fairy, just got Belinda to 50 and realized I had none.

I could farm Backwater Camp 2, but if I remember rightly its got a low drop rate.

>>13201803
Phalanx 2

>>13201801
it's about twice as good as what you get from the 4 stam easy mode

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Damn daily normal, you scary

>>13201330
i've been dumping some gold on base unit summons this week, i didn't get one silver yet. so i tried dumping 60k straight like you said and i got 4 silvers. there might be a counter that resets daily depending on how much you gold you spend...

Is Immortal Beast the next roadblock after Castle Retake? This shit is like 200% harder, and I barely 1star'd castle retake. Already ***d flame dragon, dragon hunt and remnant vanquish 3. Am I stuck grinding those for a while?

>>13202071
Nah. It's random.

>>13202113
Immortal beast is not a roadblock. It's the ceiling. There isn't a map after that.

>>13202119
well shit. I hoped for more free crystals

>>13201330
You have to trade one silver of a specific class in, in addition to the 100k gold.

>>13202145
>>13202113
Ah so it's that exchange thing?

..I still want it over here ASAP, I have five catgirls starving for CC.

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I love the new Extreme-Tier map for the Alchemist Event.

How many copies of Belinda do you need for minimum cost?

>>13202344
Its not guaranteed but as shes a platinum I believe 5 copies is the minimum, however you'd need to be very lucky for that.
1Iron
2 bronze
3 silver
4 gold
5 platinum

>>13202356
It's actually 3.
Iron - 1
Bronze - 2
Silver - 3
Gold - 3
Platinum - 3
Black - 3
Event Units though are different. Early Event Units are sometimes 3 (because of shit drop rate) but later Event Units are usually 5. Bellinda in this case is 3.
>>13202344
So with regards to probability, you'd need 7 extra Bellindas (1 for 100% first cost down, + 2 more for 50% second cost down, + 4 more for 25% third cost down).

>>13202386
I think I'll just give up after getting two, I only get wilfreds now

Btw, wiki states that CC'd Belinda has 15 cost, but mine had 16.

>>13202411
My black witch cost is also one point higher in the English version for some reason.

>>13202411
>>13202418
There was a recent patch in JP Aegis that reduced the cost of ALL Witches by 1.

Next Aigis event is April 3. What comes after Belinda's event?

>>13202454
A Gold Rush. But we actually skipped over the first half of Anya's Event (because it's harder than the Bellinda Event) so we might go back to that one instead.

I think there is a global luck clock for everyone. Mega bosses spawn for my each character when I do quest simultaneously on 2 different browsers. And the bosses are usually similar when the time interval between them is small. Sometimes I see multiple drops of mabel or hana at the same time too. I am not sure how to exploit this or is there even a pattern but someone please tell me it is not just me who have noticed this.

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>>13202386
>>13202356
Thanks, I got lucky it seems and only needed 3 extras to reach minimum cost.

>>13202561
I've noticed a bunch of coincidences, like there being stretches of 0 bosses followed by a packed support list. Or how it never fails that I will spawn a Neo right before I go to bed every night.

But I attribute it to just that....coincidence. Although I know nothing about programming, I imagine it would be simpler to have a basic statistical randomization in place for all that.

>>13202561
that's just how randomness combined with confirmation bias works

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Having truble even 3*ing the Normal map... mind advicing me?

>>13203078

I can just imagine a badly programmed RNG being a simple "What minute is it? What second is it? Fudge the two numbers together instead of a dice roll". But that'd require actual effort to write badly when the simplest way is decent.

On the one hand, get 5 Belinda and 3 Soma drops total. On the other hand, keep failing at cost reduction and skill up when combining. The pain... Still, got a Lv 50 Belinda now, will CC once I get a plat fairy (used 3 to eat an EXP armour).

>>13203357

Katie at B to call, witches and archers in front of her. Hope those archers are CC. Add healer and mages as appropriate.

>>13203357
I dunno how strong your units are right now, but I have CC Katie at B, CC archer at I, and healer at M, then put a witch at H and another healer at K, and another witch at N

Annd that's it.

Third mincost Belinda, one per account.
Event's done.

>>13203383
christ you have 3 accounts all on the English version? Wouldn't you rather make JP accounts?

>>13203383
>one per account.
what are alts good for in Aigis? Hoping for more diverse rolls on the gacha?

>>13203299
I have been doing simultaneous questing for weeks and I got bosses spawn for my both characters everytime when I clicked start quest at the same time. I am very skeptical myself so observed it for weeks and came up with this result. There is no way this is pure randomness.

>>13203401
Let's you test runs on event maps without wasting stamina/charisma on your main account. But the amount of trouble really isn't worth it.

Hey guys...for the Dungeon Investigations coming in the next LoV update, does anyone know if they would be stamina/force dependent? Just trying to plan for my last 2 cont logins.

>>13203401
Boredom while waiting for shit to recharge, seeing how different results from free gachas play out.

>>13203396
Checking everything on the wiki and crawling through google's butchering of it is annoying. Expanded baggage of unit classes makes it harder to CC when only working with limited gacha ammounts.

>>13203439
>Expanded baggage of unit classes makes it harder to CC when only working with limited gacha ammounts.

What?

>>13203512
I think he means that both the gold and crystal gachas are diluted with obscure unit classes, so classes like Archers (which are used alot as CC Material) drop more rarely.

>>13203521
I don't think gacha is supposed to be the primary way to get specific silvers.

>>13203529
It's still a bunch of golds and silvers. In here, the odds are much higher that the silvers will match the golds to CC them.

>>13203529
It's not the best way to get specific silvers, but it's a great way to get Silvers in general. I've gotten ~20-30 Silvers from Gacha.

>>13203541
I see your point but aren't the benefits of having more units and events around kinda higher? Or at least high enough to try one account there if you're playing 3 accounts?

Anyone else find aigis nearly impossible to play on a computer as opposed to on a phone?

>>13203552
It's more of a secondary annoyance in addition to the language barrier.

>>13203560
Idunno, I play fine. Just don't forget to keep it in a separate window rather than a tab to prevent it pausing and it rolls on easy.

>>13203564
But having one mouse cursor as opposed to two thumbs makes it so much harder to immediately press activate/withdraw immediately after clicking a unit, and it runs way more smoothly on my phone too. I've lost two missions today to not being able to place units the way I want to because of lag on my PC.

>>13203576
I'm pretty fast with a mouse, Anon.

Also my phone is a shoddy antique and by the sound of it your PC isn't much better.

I've been doing this event almost every day since it started and only got 1 Soma, some bronze archers, and another black fairy that I can't even use due to no black units.

And now 2 Belinda drops in a row. My persistence has finally paid off.

>>13202411
Is she supposed to have that much cost? My copy of her is only 13.

>>13204373
CC adds 3 cost to her.

>>13204373
he's refering to a cc'd one
i'm preatty sure yours is not

>>13204376
>>13204390
Oh yeah, he was. Disregard my idiocy then.

>>13202113
why do people censor cuss words in this thread i don't get it

>>13204440
Why don't you know how to use grammar? I don't get it either.

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So yeah.. after losing a 4B hana for no particular reason today i got my 4B luca to replace her till my 4th hana arrives

>>13203576
How are you playing it on your phone?

>>13205036
I think that only works with the Japanese version, would be nice to see nutaku support it but eh, might not be so likely. Only works on android of course since apple is nazis, but on android you can download a dmm store app from their mobile website and then from there download an apk for aigis.

>>13205047
Oh, I see. I thought you meant on Puffin web browser on Android. I use that but recently it's been having some problem with the page layout

bscones you need comrade or not?

Woo, started a new account and just 2* cleared gatehouse battle on my first try at rank 23, highest level unit used other than the prince was 14. No money spent of course, that wouldn't count. Should be able to 3* easily since i just had a stupid unit death.

>>13205551
Who is this?

Wasn't there supposed to be an increase in black units rate this week?

>>13205696
Amidamaru

>>13205709
No, unit rates never change. The event just means that if you do get a black unit, it is very likely to be one of the two advertised.

>>13205709
1)Nah, it was an increase in probability to get one of the two events' units IF you roll the black unit chance.
2)You wouldn't notice a difference between 3% and, say, 6% even if it was increase in chances for all blacks.

Belinda event over :(

Found out I was missing a silver healer and mage for CC materials 10 minutes before event was over.

Decided to burn a crystal and farm 6x of the 1st Belinda map for Valerie. Dropped on the 5th try, was a close call :3

Didn't had the time to farm for my last Christopher (CC material for Chydis) before event ended, was sad. Then did the 1x per day free base summon, and out came Healer Alissa lol.

-2, 3/5 50CC45 Belinda so far. I have four spare Belindas left to try my luck, but I need another plat fairy first.

Should I go faeries dialies or just farm affection items? Could use every type of them I think. As well as some bonus affection.

>>13205755
Only farm the daily if you need black/rainbow (plat as well, if you don't have access to Phalanx 2).

Otherwise, Phalanx 2.