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Manchester United midfielder Andreas Pereira 'offered student £10,000 for a threesome' with him and team-mate Paddy McNair (independent.co.uk)
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[–]readytoascend 50 ポイント51 ポイント52 ポイント 5 時間 前 (56子コメント)
Pereira’s agent Leo Scheinkman has defended the Argentinian after responding to the reports, saying: “He is young and single and can have sex with whoever he wants. What does he have to apologise for?”
[–]Manchester Unitedbosnian_red 92 ポイント93 ポイント94 ポイント 5 時間 前* (36子コメント)
He's Brazilian/Belgian... Not Argentinian. Feel like that's made up. Also the article has so many spelling mistakes and the end they say the agent was unavailable for comment when called by the independent so that quote seems made up.
Definitely bullshit.
[+]ArsenalSulphur32 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-14 ポイント-13 ポイント-12 ポイント 4 時間 前 (22子コメント)
Believe what you want mate. This is all over the press. No way its been fabricated.
[–]Botswana Meat CommissionRegents_Park 11 ポイント12 ポイント13 ポイント 4 時間 前 (7子コメント)
Nobody has the source, the press is just reporting from an exclusive article by The Sun, which is the biggest piece of filth newspaper in the country notorious for publishing utter lies.
It looks like some intern has faked a conversation on their phone and passed it off as an exclusive.
[+]ArsenalSulphur32 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-13 ポイント-12 ポイント-11 ポイント 4 時間 前 (6子コメント)
Are you joking? Go down to the newsagent and pick up a copy of The Sun. They've got an interview with the girl right there.
[–]Botswana Meat CommissionRegents_Park 9 ポイント10 ポイント11 ポイント 4 時間 前 (5子コメント)
They went 30 years blaming Liverpool fans for Hillsborough too with multiple interviews. Take it with a grain of salt. She's not the first slag in Manchester trying to make a quick tabloid buck after a drink or two with a footballer.
[+]ArsenalSulphur32 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-12 ポイント-11 ポイント-10 ポイント 4 時間 前 (4子コメント)
She's not the first slag in Manchester trying to make a quick tabloid buck after a drink or two with a footballer.
Decided to check your history on a hunch. Yep, posts in /r/TheRedPill. Jog on you sexist cunt.
[–]Manchester Unitedjammybear 7 ポイント8 ポイント9 ポイント 3 時間 前 (2子コメント)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
[+]ArsenalSulphur32 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント 3 時間 前 (1子コメント)
His argument is fucking stupid. People read that the Sun, the Mail etc are tabloid newspapers and assume that they must be making everything up, an assumption which is very convenient for United fans in this instance because it allows them to deny the fact that one of their players is a creepy little shit.
[–]Manchester Unitedjammybear 6 ポイント7 ポイント8 ポイント 3 時間 前 (0子コメント)
The truth is that nobody has a clue, so you shouldn't treat it like fact. It's possible it's true, but it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if it was fabricated. Surely you're aware of the constant amount of shite these newspapers spout? Making up stories, interviews etc. It's happened many many times.
Not saying this is fabricated, but I don't particularly believe it either. Don't really think any of us United fans really care even if he has paid for sex. It's perfectly legal in the UK, it's his personal life and he's probably not going to stay at the club anyway with the way him and his agent have been talking.
Conversely, you're trying to claim these newspapers are credible - but if some story saying Sanchez had done the same, with fake screenshots etc. Would you treat it as fact, or be weary? Either you don't live in the UK where these papers do this constantly, or you've somehow decided these papers are reputable because it will play into your narrative of talking shit about United players.
I agree, he can't claim with full confidence that it's fabricated, but browsing through his post history to find dirt on him to discredit his argument is retarded.
[–]Arsenalscrchngwsl 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 1 時間 前 (0子コメント)
I think it's probably full of exaggeration and half truths, as is often the case in the tabloid press, but my god the replies you're getting are fucking stupid...
She's a slag, but of course professional footballers are well known for their chastity and would never offer women money for sex? And wtf has this got to do with Hillsborough? I just don't understand anything that's being said in this thread at all.
[–]Manchester UnitedPM_Me_Your_StarBurns 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 2 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Because different shit tabloid papers have never run a fake story before? I'm not saying it isn't true, but I could fake messages and get an interview with someone. I would rather wait and see if there is any truth than insult young players.
[–]Manchester Unitedbosnian_red -4 ポイント-3 ポイント-2 ポイント 3 時間 前 (11子コメント)
No way it's been fabricated? Come on, shit like this comes out all the time only to be put down as bs or a girl making claims to try and get some money or fame. Almost definitely nothing in it. First of all, why would he need to pay for sex? He's a good looking guy who plays for United and is one of our most promising youngsters. Second of all, you think a girl like her would turn down 10k to sleep with a United player when she was out drinking in their vip section apparently, most likely in the hope she would hook up with one of them? No way. More likely scenario is she asked for some money and they said no and now she came out with this.
[–]ArsenalSulphur32 13 ポイント14 ポイント15 ポイント 3 時間 前 (7子コメント)
you think a girl like her would turn down 10k to sleep with a United player when she was out drinking in their vip section apparently, most likely in the hope she would hook up with one of them? No way. More likely scenario is she asked for some money and they said no and now she came out with this.
oh my fucking god. you people are just awful
[–]Arsenalevmibo 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 3 時間 前 (0子コメント)
You're insinuating, and you're backing your comments by a shaky Sun article. She could have made it up, she could be telling the truth. We don't know.
[–]Manchester Unitedbosnian_red -4 ポイント-3 ポイント-2 ポイント 3 時間 前 (5子コメント)
It might sound awful but it's the truth. You don't know what your average 19 year old who goes out to clubs is like if you think otherwise really.
[–]ArsenalSulphur32 11 ポイント12 ポイント13 ポイント 3 時間 前 (2子コメント)
FFS just because a girl goes out does not mean she is willing to have sex with two men for money.
[–]Manchester Unitedbosnian_red -5 ポイント-4 ポイント-3 ポイント 3 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Of course it doesn't mean for sure that she would but its highly likely. Look at it as what it is. She goes out drinking like everyone, meets a few footballers from man united and then goes with them to their VIP area. Already that's pretty much in the hope she'll get with one of them. Why would they need to pay her? That's why I think its bullshit. She would do it anyway, but if they offered her £10k for some reason you think she would all of a sudden reject them because of her morals? Its £10k for something she'd most likely do for free.
Put it this way, if you were a single 20 year old out drinking and were offered £10k to hook up with 2 famous and attractive celebrities, what would you say? No because you were offered an absurd amount of money but you'd do it for free? Come on.
[–]RosenborgRiverboat_Gambler 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 46 分 前 (1子コメント)
Hahahaha, comment of the year. You're mental.
[–]Manchester Unitedbosnian_red 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 27 分 前 (0子コメント)
Mental because I'm saying most girls (I should say people in general actually) who are around 20 year olds going to clubs are pretty much always down to hook up with someone? It's the truth. Especially when we're talking about a girl going into a footballers vip section.
[–]Arsenalsandbag-1 5 ポイント6 ポイント7 ポイント 2 時間 前 (2子コメント)
No way. More likely scenario is she asked for some money and they said no and now she came out with this.
Fucking hell how do people believe this shite
[–]Manchester Unitedbosnian_red -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 2 時間 前 (1子コメント)
Because its the way the world is these days? These girls go out and meet footballers in the hope of becoming wags and living off their money or making a quick buck over night like that. The footballers on the other hand can get with pretty much any girl there if they wanted to. Why the feck would they want to pay her 10k, and why the feck would she turn it down (she would do it if it was free but since they offered her an absurd amount of money she says no?) only for her to run off to the worst newspaper out there to get a little bit of money able it and make sure she gets a good pic and her name out there? Its pretty blatantly bullshit mate, and this has nothing to do with the guy being a united player. Plenty of things like this come out where someone makes allegations for some quick money or fame.
[–]Arsenalbellend1234 -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 43 分 前 (0子コメント)
I agree that it's a possibility. The Sun reporting a chain of events garners absolutely no trust from me.
[+]JaySawggum スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント 5 時間 前 (12子コメント)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3002088/Manchester-United-youngster-Andreas-Pereira-offered-student-10-000-threesome-Paddy-McNair.html
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/manchester-united-ace-offered-teen-5361610
Two articles that are typed better without any mistakes. The Independent didn't break the story, they're just reporting it.
[–]Botswana Meat CommissionRegents_Park 10 ポイント11 ポイント12 ポイント 4 時間 前 (9子コメント)
I'm not saying it's a BS story but I question the accuracy of the reporting.
Article 1 from DailyMail from 4 hours ago. Claims the messages happened over whatsapp with screenshots
Article 2 from DailyMail from 4 hours ago. This one uses a screencap of a txt message conversation.
Really feels like they're grasping at straws and making things up, throwing enough shit at the wall and hoping something sticks. Though even if he did, who cares. I just thought 10k would buy you a lot better.
[–]Bristol Roverswaldron76 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 4 分 前 (0子コメント)
I read an article recently written by someone who worked at DM Online, and that is pretty muich exactly what they do. Pump out stories and give little thought to accuracy or journalistic ethics.
[+]JaySawggum スコアが基準値未満のコメント-11 ポイント-10 ポイント-9 ポイント 4 時間 前 (7子コメント)
I think it's you that's grasping at straws. So the content is identical but because the app theme is different it must be inaccurate?
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[+]JaySawggum スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント 4 時間 前 (5子コメント)
And I'm sure they faked his agents quote as well?
[–]Djurgårdens IFEmelelehh 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 4 時間 前 (1子コメント)
Why wouldn't that be plausable? Papers do it all the time, especially in the football world.
[–]LiverpoolTwoLLamas1Sheep 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 12 分 前 (0子コメント)
You can't fake direct quotes, no. It doesn't happen all the time, not in the UK.
You can purposely misconstrue or take them out of context, sure. But you can't attribute an actual direct quote made from thin air to someone.
[–]Botswana Meat CommissionRegents_Park -2 ポイント-1 ポイント0 ポイント 4 時間 前* (1子コメント)
Would not be surprised if they faked that too. His agent's quote is the most vague, generic thing with no context. Nowhere does it mention anything about a threesome payment. Chances are The Sun probably rang up his offices and said "Do you have a comment on the rumours of your client's lewd messages?"
To which he released a boilerplate response of he's young and can sleep with whoever he wants. British tabloids are trash, don't be so naive.
[–]JaySawggum -2 ポイント-1 ポイント0 ポイント 4 時間 前* (0子コメント)
So, if this story is actually a lie, rather than him simply say "There is no truth in this story" like 99% of agents do with rumours/lies, he instead let the story run which presented a negative image of his client?
And I'm sure people were calling the Sun "trash" when it 1st broke the news about an England footballer have sex with a 15 year old.
EDIT: I'm not for one second saying the Sun is 100% reliable, but to discredit them simply because "it's the Sun" is naive also.
[–]joepo32 -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 2 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Never trust a journo.
[–]Tottenham Hotspurcaribouslack 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 1 時間 前 (1子コメント)
downvoted for clarity. Surely r/soccer is the most feeble sub
[–]JaySawggum 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 25 分 前 (0子コメント)
Most people use the downvote as a "I don't like this post". I don't pay much attention to it. I mean I've gone into a thread that will be predominantly viewed by United fans and posted something that doesn't paint one of their players in a positive light, of course I'll be downvoted even if it's the truth/correct.
[–]Manchester Unitedmanutd19 12 ポイント13 ポイント14 ポイント 5 時間 前 (18子コメント)
This is BS. They're using the Sun as a source and claim he is from Argentina even though he is Brazilian but born in Belgium.
[+]JaySawggum スコアが基準値未満のコメント-12 ポイント-11 ポイント-10 ポイント 5 時間 前 (17子コメント)
They aren't just using the Sun as a source, they women contacted the Sun with this story, it's her own account. And they made one fucking mistake by stating his nationality wrong, every other news outlet has correctly called him Brazilian/Belgium.
[–]Manchester Unitedmanutd19 -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 4 時間 前 (7子コメント)
That one mistake is quite a big one too. Shows how incompetent they are.
[–]JaySawggum -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 4 時間 前 (6子コメント)
What does it matter? It's just The Independent. Every other news outlet has correctly stated his nationality.
[–]Manchester Unitedmanutd19 -4 ポイント-3 ポイント-2 ポイント 4 時間 前 (5子コメント)
Because if they make one mistake who knows what other lies they're covering up with mistakes. To be a well established news outlet you at least have to get some facts right.
[–]JaySawggum 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 4 時間 前 (4子コメント)
What are you not understand here? The Independent did NOT break this story, they are just reporting it. Every other news source has correctly stated his nationality. It's an irrelevant mistake.
[–]Manchester Unitedmanutd19 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント0 ポイント 4 時間 前 (3子コメント)
Haha I'm still laughing at you for believing this shit story. Who cares who broke or reported it? They made a stupid mistake and for a huge newspaper like the independent it's embarrassing.
[+]purrdf1234 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6 ポイント-5 ポイント-4 ポイント 4 時間 前 (2子コメント)
Woow, you're really retarded.
[–]Manchester Unitedmanutd19 -4 ポイント-3 ポイント-2 ポイント 4 時間 前 (1子コメント)
Why because I know that this story is bullshit? The retarded ones are the ones that claim they are news outlet whilst they couldn't even get the nationality of the person involved in the story right.
[+]Manchester Unitedmanutd19 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-9 ポイント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント 4 時間 前 (8子コメント)
So how exactly do we know a woman contacted the Sun for this?
[–]JaySawggum 7 ポイント8 ポイント9 ポイント 4 時間 前 (5子コメント)
What? They have a picture of the women, they have pictures of the texts and they have a statement from his agent.
Yeah it's just one huge massive conspiracy to smear two fringe players.
[–]Manchester Unitedmanutd19 -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 4 時間 前 (2子コメント)
Oh funny how the Sun claims it was a Whatsapp message whilst the photo shows a generic texting app. You guys are crazy if you believe this.
[–]JaySawggum 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 4 時間 前 (1子コメント)
I'm sure those aren't actual images from the phone. Probably just mocked up examples.
[–]Manchester Unitedmanutd19 -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 4 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Didn't you just say that they had picture of the text? And now you are contradicting yourself? Funny that.
[–]Manchester Unitedmanutd19 -5 ポイント-4 ポイント-3 ポイント 4 時間 前 (0子コメント)
And that makes it true because? For all we know that could be anyone. You guys really are gullible if you think this is true. Its just some shit newspaper trying to stir up more shit.
[–]ChinggisKhagan 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 4 時間 前 (0子コメント)
one way or another she clearly sold the story to the sun. maybe they heard some rumours and found her, or just called every hot girl i manchester to see if they had something to share, but most likely she came to them.
[–]Real Sociedadcvelz 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 4 時間 前 (0子コメント)
because that's exactly how these type of stories come up, just like what happened to Januzaj
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