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[–]edgy_le_rape 216 ポイント217 ポイント  (161子コメント)

Some other recent examples of discrimination/racism against Whites:

College cancels diversity ‘happy hour’ after learning event coordinators intended to exclude white people - South Puget Sound Community College, Olympia, Washington

Parents Upset School's "Black Lives Matter" Event Excluded Other Races - Oak Park and River Forest High School, Chicago

Field trip for black students sparks controversy at Ann Arbor elementary school - Dicken Elementary School, Ann Arbor

Presidential candidate ‘has no place’ in EUSA after discovery of ‘horrendously racist’ remark ("Fuck you white person") - University of Edinburgh

Some interesting things have happened lately. I've seen a lot of people on reddit realizing that non-Whites can be racist/hateful/discriminatory against Whites too. That shouldn't be controversial to say, but it is in certain circles! If you believe that all groups are the same, then you should believe that members of all groups are capable of racism/discrimination. Instead some people seem to think that only Whites are capable of those things - which seems pretty racist to me. We're in this funny situation where non-Whites get a free pass in racism/hatred/discrimination against an entire group of humans, because the definitions for those words are being applied in a racially unequal way.

[–]Maldras 71 ポイント72 ポイント  (11子コメント)

No one should get a free pass -- period.

It's time all communities are involved in the dialogue and those that don't change, well, that's where tolerance should end.

[–]maxToTheJ -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (10子コメント)

I know this is unpopular but no incident of racism against whites has gotten a "free pass" on reddit. Every single such incidence shoots to the front page like a rocket without the need of a video or some other hard evidence.

[–]froschkonig 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (9子コメント)

The world is a lot bigger than reddit.

[–]maxToTheJ -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (8子コメント)

I think everyone is aware of that.

[–]froschkonig 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (7子コメント)

The person you replied to made no comment about reddit, yet that was your justifier, you made it all about reddit trying to negate the other persons point.

[–]maxToTheJ -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (6子コメント)

The point is that reddit is a reflection of society at large especially north american society because redditors arent posting from Mars but are actually a larger sample size of north americans than any Gallup poll. This is why I why dont get why you are trying to negate my point with your "world is a lot bigger" comment.

[–]Teelo888 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Actually I think Reddit adversely attracts certain demographics, resulting in a population here that isn't at all representative of "society at large" like you suggest. Marginally similar, yeah, but far from an accurate depiction.

[–]maxToTheJ 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

reddit is pretty representative for the broad descriptive strokes even down to the dynamics. Reddit lets a small minority of racist redditors drive discussions and culture if you look at /r/news /r/documentaries and other large subreddits despite the fact that a large majority of redditors are not racist. This is exactly the same dynamics that drives society at large. Racism of any kind wouldnt be an issue if the small minority of racist were hounded by the majority both in public and in private. Currently it only happens in public.

[–]Teelo888 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah I wish more people were willing to, as you say, hound the racists and let them know it's not ok. I try to every chance I get. I live in the bible belt, so naturally there is still quite a bit of racism around; mostly just older folks though. I will admit, it's hard to do if the person is a complete stranger though. You never know how adamant their beliefs are and whether they would be willing to cause a huge scene if you called them out on it.

[–]froschkonig 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Reddit is not a reflection of the world as a whole, rather a small window into the world as a whole. There's a huge difference there.

[–]maxToTheJ -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not going to bother to try to explain sampling. You win.

[–]froschkonig 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I know what sampling is, and the difference between a self selecting population (reddit) and a random population. I also know reddit is not a reflection of the entire world. Maybe getting out of your sheltered biome would show you this.

[–]BubblefartsRock 159 ポイント160 ポイント  (36子コメント)

I once asked someone that was being racist towards white people why it's ok to be racist towards whites but not other races and she said "its not possible to oppress the oppressor". Like what? fuck off

[–]fury420 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I totally love how eurocentric and thus discriminatory their new definition of racism is, as if there is no rest of the world full of non-white majority countries.

[–]lostshell 140 ポイント141 ポイント  (15子コメント)

They know they're racist so they're trying to redefine racism to include the caveat "plus power" to create a loophole. Since only whites have power--according to them--only whites can be racist.

[–]EmeraldKnight92 42 ポイント43 ポイント  (5子コメント)

The problem with this definition is that power dynamics vary according to scale and location. A white person in a predominantly black area, for example, is not the one in power at the community level despite being in power at the national level. Or, as an additional example, a black business owner will naturally have more power than their white employees in the workplace.

To mention "power" as though it's a universal constant is foolish at best. Reality isn't that black and white (pun very much intended).

[–]ParanthropusBoisei 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The core of it is that they completely deny individuality and see every member of every group as part of some larger superorganism of some kind.

Well, that is until someone discriminates against them when they have power. Then only do individuals begin to exist.

[–]heavenlytoaster 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Murika has $$ and nukes so whites are in power everywhere.

/SJWlogic

[–]CSUSBro 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

No, but because on the macro-level people in power are predominantly white, the minority would still be the black person?

On a micro-level, maybe, but when the laws and policies put in place regulating interactions on the micro-level are created by a white person, it kind of shifts the power balance in favor of the white anyone on an institutional level, where is the level racism is rooted in (microaggressions are often more prejudiced than racist- crossing the street because you see a stereotypically black "thug" in not necessarily OVERTLY racist, but it is prejudiced, although nobody seems to understand this distinction on either side of the issue).

[–]EmeraldKnight92 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

when the laws and policies put in place regulating interactions on the micro-level are created by a white person, it kind of shifts the power balance in favor of the white anyone on an institutional level

Yes, this is an example of power dynamics at a larger scale. Allow me to give an extreme example at a smaller scale: when the other person has a gun pointed at your head, all macro-level power dynamics go out the window. Please note that I'm not involving any specific race in this example (i.e. I am not, by any means, inferring that a black person would be doing this), but simply illustrating an extreme situation where instutionalized oppression is irrelevant.

Believe me, I perfectly understand how macro-level power dynamics can (and generally will) affect micro-level power dynamics or even just micro-level interactions. I'm not arguing against this point, nor am I ignorant of it. What I am arguing, however, is that there are scenarios at the micro level where the power dynamics might favor the minority enough for them to discriminate based on race (i.e. to engage in racism).

[–]intensely_human 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wait how did the Greys get involved!?

[–]Rhawk187 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can try to keep up if they want to keep changing the definitions of words, just tell me what new word means what the old word meant.

[–]Doug_Y_Funnie 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yea the whole having a black president thing makes them look even more idiotic. "Well if the most powerful person on earth is black then clearly only black people can be racist"

[–]Terron1965 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Discrimination takes power. Any worthless limp dick can be a racist.

[–]Retenrage -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bullshit. Black people have power. Just look at Will Smith. Or Lebron.

[–]BrackOBoyO 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

The SJW left has re-defined sexism and racism as prejudice + power. They argue that without the power element those things cannot truly exist.

I was on their side for a long time, like 10 plus years in fact, until I started to hear this.

I still remember when I was volunteering for a kid's helpline and some fellow volunteers (female) said it to me, the first time I had heard such a thing, over a lunch break. I honestly thought they were joking. After a heated discussion I was accused of misogyny because I refused to accept sexism was a male-only offence. I have distanced myself from the 'equality' movement ever since.

Now, almost 5 years on, I have a deep concern for the progress of 'politically correct' culture and the rise and rise of what I call 'oppressive equalitarians'.

These people do not realise their logic is contradictory, their opinions are paradoxical, their outrage is self-defeating. Delusion is absolutely the most socially dangerous condition. It is why the Nazis believed they were RIGHT to do what they did, its why the HUTU's believed they were RIGHT, its why the Catholic Church thought they were RIGHT and its why ISIS and Al Qaeda believe they are RIGHT.

Just because the 'SJW' movement is generally non-violent, does not mean we should not be equally wary of their delusion. It is a dangerous, dangerous thing and I fear for the future of my society and the fidelity of Free Speech.

[–]InvertedPhallus 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Same thing happened to me and i imagine all of us who are now caught in the limbo of realizing the left is disaster which is no different than the far right which we got a taste of in the early 2000's.

What may be even more frightening is that the far right may very well be the lesser of the two evils because they are at least willing to preserve our civilization, we may have to live in their capitalist dog eat dog society in order to preserve what we have and that will be unfortunate for the majority of people.

[–]ballsdeepdeepdickin 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Carlin predicted it just before his death about censorship and PC speech that it's stemming from the college campuses and the political left.

I know liberals like to brag about how they are more intelligent on average and how if someone is more educated they are more likely to be a liberal. Sometimes I wonder if that's because only liberal thought/ideology can survive is on a college campus and has very little use outside of academia.

[–]ballsdeepdeepdickin 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You should read Harrison Bergeron

I've watched some of what Yuri Bezmenov (former KGB propaganda officer) has had to say about social justice, and I think I might be getting into tin foil hat territory, but I personally think Soviet communist ideology is trying to kill us from beyond the grave through political correctness and social equality.

[–]SergeantChuckles 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

When people say that to me I usually say "Well that sucks because I'm definitely not feeling the benefits of being an oppressor. How much debt do you have? Oh, none? How much upward mobility do you have? Oh, tons? Exactly how is my poor, debt ridden white ass oppressing you? Go fuck yourself, we're all in the same shitty machine."

[–]NotTerrorist 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They actually think all white people have it so easy, none of us could ever have a single hardship. Like go away. There are broken, poor people of every race just trying to get by and the last thing any of us needs is someone shitting on us.

[–]ElbowStrike 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

That's the problem with their insane world view. They don't understand that an individual white person has barely any additional "power" than they themselves do, and if we really are an evil oppressive group of people, why do the Chinese and Hindu communities do so well for themselves?

Speaking of racist groups of people, the number of white people I've known over the years who were introduced to their new Hindu or Asian girlfriend's or boyfriend's parents for the first time as a teenager and immediately experienced what could only be described as a nuclear meltdown by said parents... It's ridiculous. It's simply not true that white people are somehow especially racist compared to any other group of people. I'd go so far as to say the opposite is true.

[–]ABCDick 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

they think white people actually have some racial solidarity and that some white rich ceo in new york gives a shit about the white plumber in Montana because he is white

[–]ElbowStrike 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's funny to me because in my experience whites were the only group through school and young adult night club days that didn't stick up for each other based on racial lines.

It's like if there's a conflict between two people and one of them is a different ethnic background, you assume it's just two individuals having a personal conflict and you stay out of it, because that's what a non-racist person does, but then 50/50 chance some random stranger who happens to be the same ethnic background of the non-white person in the conflict and they're jumping in, "what's up, you got a problem with <ethnic group>?"

[–]Kiltmanenator 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Their definition of racism is "power + privilege". We already have a term for that: institutional racism.

http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/07/07/social-justice-and-words-words-words/

[–]erniecardenas 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Cognitive dissonance

[–]Jackksid -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (5子コメント)

That is not cognitive dissonance, no.

[–]erniecardenas 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Yes, it is.

[–]Jackksid -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

No, it's really not. Look up the term before you use it to try and sound intelligent.

[–]erniecardenas 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Maybe you should look the term up yourself.

[–]Jackksid -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'd only discover that you're still misusing it in regard to the context of the post you were responding to.

[–]erniecardenas 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Whatever you say pal

[–]Dragulla 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

With that type of mentality, and enough power, white people would only count for about 3/5th of a normal person.

This comment is intended to be satire.

[–]Canadian_Infidel 62 ポイント63 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I learned this while living in a mostly black neighborhood. I got threatened several times for being white.

[–]intensely_human 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes but that just balances all the times you've threatened black people just for being black.

[–]IHateHumans 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Instead some people seem to think that only Whites are capable of those things - which seems pretty racist to me.

It's pretty god damned annoying to me when someone assumes I'm racist because I'm white. I mean, I'm one of the most pro-equal rights people I know so being told I'm racist is like, what's the point right?

[–]rlg 35 ポイント36 ポイント  (25子コメント)

I upvoted. Then saw you post to /r/coontown, and then down voted instead.

You do objectively realize that's an extremely racist subreddit, right?

Disappointed.

[–]edgy_le_rape 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

The subs I post to don't really make what I posted in the parent comment true or false, though.

[–]feelbetternow 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They do make you an ignorant racist, though. So, there's that!

[–]DownvoteDaemon -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

How do you expect me to take you seriously as a black person when you post in a sub dedicated to hating my race. Obviously us blacks can be racist too. I was listening too you until I saw your post history.

[–]morris198 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was listening too you until I saw your post history.

You shouldn't add your ignorance to his. If what he cited is true, it's true. Be confident in your ability to be open-minded and unbiased.

[–]faithfuljohn 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You do objectively realize that's an extremely racist subreddit, right?

Disappointed.

He called people "coons" in his actual submission. I can tell you straight up it's about as racists as it gets. So yeah, I'm pretty sure he knows he is a racists.

[–]i_trusted_patches -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Shit that blows. He linked some pretty eye-opening things for some in his comment too. :/

[–]skabbo 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (1子コメント)

His being racist doesn't change the validity of whats linked in his comment.

[–]i_trusted_patches 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah that's true.

I feel like after that movie "dear white people" fucked with a lot of people. All it's done is spread more white guilt among universities so shit like this happens. God damn it, it's supposed to be satire...

[–]DriveSlowHomie -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Honestly shocked, well not really, but still. The amount of thinly veiled racist shit getting upvoted ITT is ridiculous

[–]spicy_tofu -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think a lot of these folks would be into r/coontown... Reddit seems to tend towards favoring white males in the comments and be almost universally anti-feminism and anti-social justice. I'm not offering an opinion on the matter being discussed here (although I really don't think it's much of a discussion) but I think it's important to realize the privilege inherent to white folks in all aspects of life. sure you could feel unsafe in a predominantly black community or be excluded from a meeting or event but maybe consider that pretty much everything else is built around your best interests and that a lot of us (especially black folks at the moment) are a little fed up with this model.

commence the downvoting.

[–]youareaspastic 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You virgins sure get all sensitive when you feel like it's white people being discriminated against, but those minorities should just stop being so easily offended huh?

[–]ryanx27 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (2子コメント)

This is pretty funny considering you sit around and post to /r/CoonTown all day

[–]Champion_of_Gnomes -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wow. Nice catch.

[–]Cowicide 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Easy catch.

As I explained to someone else here...

Stormfront and other racists brigade the shit out of crap like this to the front page and then brigade the comments.

The entire point of this effort is to take anomalies of abhorrent behavior and make it appear rampant in minority communities. They especially love to do this after major racist events against blacks comes to the forefront in the mainstream news.

Here they are again... right on time, right on queue...

[–]The_Starmaker 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Wow. Another goddamn CoonTown poster got upvoted. Complaining about racism in one comment while ranting about n****rs in 50 others.

[–]intensely_human 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Almost as if statements have their own value independent of their speaker.

[–]sloppies 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That last link is the worst. Imagine if it was a higher-up white person at a University that said "fuck you black person" to someone? They'd be fired instantaneously with no questions asked.

[–]manfox 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Totally agree. When people say that you can't be racist against whites, it's like they are saying that whites are somehow better than all other races and are above being discriminated against. Don't put whites on a pedestal. They are people too, just like everybody else.

[–]Cowicide 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

some people seem to think that only Whites are capable of those things

It's more likely you were talking to "some people" that were bringing your attention to the fact that it's vastly more of a problem against blacks than it is against whites in this country. But, you probably exhibited cognitive dissonance and only heard the false argument you wanted to hear.

Some other recent examples of discrimination/racism against Whites

It's interesting you keep capitalizing "whites". Freudian slip, perhaps?

I was going to put up some recent example of discrimination/racism against blacks, but my computer became overloaded and fucking crashed.

[–]mleonardo -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck off back to the Chimpire, you racist puke.

I'm not just saying that; homeboy posts all up in there.

[–]coolasafool462 -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

depends on your definition of racism