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Just Unsubbed - Can't take Jagex anymore (self.2007scape)

howtofixthegame が 投稿

Not going to play a game that will just turn out like the main game did. You claim to listen to the community but throughout the whole Q & A livestream you didn't talk once about the most popular questions which were balancing issues such as Zulrah and 6 hour afking. Funny you guys just try to avoid it. I really had high hopes for this game which blinded me by the fact that the game is still owned by Jagex and they will somehow find away to fuck up anything they touch. Maybe in a year I'll see you guys have introduced a 10m per hour boss that pumps even more resources into the game than Zulrah and maybe I'll see all skills 6 hour afkable because you seem to want to cater to people that don't want to work for their stats and endgame content.

This is coming from a ten year vet who doesn't have too much time to play nowadays and doesn't have one 99 yet on OSRS.

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[–]Hawsdebaws 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (7子コメント)

I remember Mod Mark bringing up a great point where he mentioned there was a time in RS3 where they brought out so much new content and kept pushing for new updates, that they completely forgot about fixing old content that split the community.

[–]Tristar_123 [非表示スコア]  (6子コメント)

Kinda off topic but I wish we have someone like Mod Mark(game designer) in OSRS to tie in content and make it all work well together.From what i've heard Reach say so far Zeah seems like a great concept with a ton of cool stuff but i have a feeling he won't know how to make it all work well with eachother and it will look like a bunch of stuff thrown onto a land mass

[–]joeyisokbuy bonds noob | RSN: Joeyx [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

lol the day Mod Mark gets his hands on osrs is the day I quit.

[–]AshadurAlceil 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It was such a piss take, when he kept asking about updates to clothing in the game.

[–]RUNESCAPEMEME 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (3子コメント)

6 hour NMZ and splashing has already been addressed it's why they won't answer questions about it, because they already have. Sorry if you don't like the answers or decisions Jagex made.

[–]jordan460 [非表示スコア]  (2子コメント)

That's not really reasonable. If the community is this upset about it then it should be re-addressed.

[–]0uchI suck at this game [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Not the community. Reddit.

[–]Baneighneigh [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

The sub isn't the whole community, there is a much larger player base then there is people on this sub. If the majority of the player base who isn't part of the sub wants it, then it gets kept because the majority wants it.
That seems to be the biggest issue here, it is only the sub that has looked at this as an issue, not the majority.

[–]valdack1 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Alright cya later

[–]Cacosan 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (8子コメント)

I seriously dont know how the 6h afk is an issue out of a sudden, the afk maging was broken as fuck until it got fixed tho. Like you haven't been able to afk bandits since guthans armor came out. Zulrah on the other hand is just fucking ridiculous, glorys are 25k ea now, seriously. What the fuck?!

[–]Byl609 [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

gl afking bandits with randoms events...

[–]ravsuvrav_suv [非表示スコア]  (2子コメント)

Glories crashed because of the ge along with combat bracelet the other dragonstone item.

[–]throwawayfitness5521Hooah [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Zulrah drops 2 crystal keys at once. I have made hundreds of glories solely from zulrah kills.

[–]rweqreqwewrq [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

glories crashed because wilderness chests

[–]UninterestinUsername [非表示スコア]  (3子コメント)

They were 35k-40k before Zulrah was released. Is 10k-15k that big of a deal to you?

[–]Hashes1234 [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

They were 60k before zulrah came out.

[–]lordoftheaxesIm Foxy / IronPogChamp [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Before I quit (and eventually returned) they were 80k+

[–]Wasabicannon [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

As someone who has plans to mass craft nature runes in the next few months that 10k - 15k price reduction will allow me to buy a few more. :)

[–]YellowSC [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Want a cookie? If you unsound great for you but don't try to make yourself seem so high and mighty.

[–]hondraeu [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

no one cares bye lol

[–]TheScoopster 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

let the circle-jerking begin

[–]Clubcam 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (9子コメント)

I'll join you quite soon. Going to play Morrowind instead.

[–]howtofixthegame[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (8子コメント)

I have a ton of steam games to still play from past sales so it's not like I'm losing much by quitting Runescape.

[–]Cloudtears 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (7子コメント)

You just can't afford Guthans. ;)

[–]howtofixthegame[S] [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

I have guthans sitting on my account right now after afking for a week to try it.

[–]game1622 [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Well you can't afford mind runes and a fire staff!

[–]amijustamoodybastard [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

ok cya m8 dont come back dont let the door hit you on the way out.

[–]NattyGon [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

No one cares if you stopped paying Jagex

No one cares if you played for 10 hours

No one cares cause you'll be back in 1 week

[–]aaron0791 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (14子コメント)

I am a veteran here too, and I think the problem is that you care too much how others play. They added so many resources into zulrah because the market needed it! we are not the same number of player as 10 years ago, we therefore cannot get the same amount of resources. Is it really that hard to think?

[–]MrwhitepantzIGN: Mrwhitepantz 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (4子コメント)

This doesn't make any sense. If having fewer players creates a lack of supply, then having fewer players would also create a lack of demand, thereby balancing things out.

[–]seriousllama [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

That isnt necessarily true, before f2p the majority of accounts were pkers or high level pvm, with a small amount collecting resources...

[–]toplel558blue phat zomg [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Minority are pkers and high level pvmers, majority are bots and low level players

[–]aaron0791 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

but not all those players like skilling, there is a few number of actually gathering resources, i do understand you point and I agree with it, I am not arguing with you, I think that we need a skill rework before a nerfing the drop tables

[–]game1622 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If there was a shortage, resource prices would've reflected that. You would've seen stuff like pure ess or ores or logs costing wayy more than they did in 2007, but they weren't.

Though, I do agree skills should be looked at more since we've had so many combat/slayer updates.

[–]celery_underJacobs [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

I think you can't tell someone to change their opinion on that. If I play for achievements, and my achievements are ruined by people getting the same thing without working for it, I'm supposed to just stop feeling that way? You do understand that's not a choice at all, right?

[–]howtofixthegame[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (7子コメント)

It's good to have a lower supply to keep the price up which makes skilling profitable. With your logic we should just sell sharks in a store for 200 gp because we don't have enough supply. Also the supply of resources wasn't low because plenty of people use sharks for example as a money maker, even magic logs.

[–]aaron0791 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I am a skiller -.- with my logic you can go pvp or pvm without paying 5k for sharks because there are not enough to meet demand, its about economics.

[–]ravsuvrav_suv [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

... Sharks have never been 5k. They've always fluctuated around 1k and they still are, they are just low right now. I'm not saying the economy is by any means perfect right now but your logic is massively flawed.

[–]i_trusted_patches [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

Yeah but now alching to 94 magic costs over 20M. Great.

[–]aaron0791 -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

To put it simple, either we use all bots to meet demand or we get the products from actually players by getting them as drops, dont get me wrong I would love to see more players coming back or at least an overall skill re-work, then I would vote to nerf drop tables, but as the game is, it needs those drop tables :/

[–]howtofixthegame[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

So lets devalue all resources because of bots. You do understand the bots are banned pretty fast right?

[–]aaron0791 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I do, I dont think you are understanding my point here

[–]Rolexx [非表示スコア]  (6子コメント)

Am I the only one that thinks it's still hard to get any 99 in the game? afk or not, it still takes a long time. I think if they would remove afking, more people will quit than if they don't.

[–]howtofixthegame[S] [非表示スコア]  (5子コメント)

You think it's difficult to leave your computer on for a month and max out 4 skills? You high?

[–]Trojann2 [非表示スコア]  (4子コメント)

I think it's difficult to not be a giant douche and elitist like you are, that's for damn sure.

[–]RS3FagsWant07Dead [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

cya hick

[–]chunkmuffins 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (25子コメント)

Why are so many people mad about afking? You don't have to do it so what's the big deal if others do?

[–]draanexleGotta go fast 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (5子コメント)

It's because it can be compared with botting.

How does a player who bots his Melee skills affect you?

[–]DaNewChamp [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

It doesn't

[–]aaron0791 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

It is not, botting has "intelligence"

[–]VictorHell 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

How does it have intelligence if there is noone there. Noone is playing. It is just an exploit of the game mechanics to make the game be the bot instead for dowloading some botting client.

[–]game1622 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think he meant that bot programs had have a logic flow and can do more complicated tasks, not the botter being more intelligent for botting.

[–]Mist_RisingGone Fishin' [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

They risk a ban...afkers do not.

[–]howtofixthegame[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (11子コメント)

Lets add the squeel of fortune and 6 hour afking methods that net 1m xp per hour while also adding a afk minigame that makes 10m gold per hour and you will say to people against it "Why are so many people mad about this? You don't have to do it so what's the big deal if others do?".

[–]aaron0791 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (10子コメント)

I think you exaggerate to the extreme here, I will exxaggerate as well then, if you like grinding so much, why don’t you get 99 fishing by fishing shrimps?

[–]howtofixthegame[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (9子コメント)

That's not reasonable. You need to have good xp rates but they can't be insane. For example getting 105k melee xp per hour in nmz just isn't a reasonable xp rate for Runescape as it is to fast. The game needs balancing. We shouldn't be able to max out while we sleep.

[–]AshadurAlceil 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Because it affects you, when you go PvP, you may be fighting someone who may never had been able to fight you because of this game mechanic. Someone who just afked maxed combat is now racking in money through PvM that may never had happened before and is also introducing items that may never had existed as well. This person will affect you in someway. Its the bigger picture. The game is an MMO, one persons interaction affects everyone's.

[–]masterfisherFeelin Lit 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

without splashing i wouldnt even attempt to pk. im not gonna go up against people my lvl who have veng when i dont. i need to level the playing field.

[–]AshadurAlceil [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

That's why you train it. Those high level spells are there to entice you to stay in the game and train the skill. The game wasn't designed for someone to just have their account logged in and let the account just auto gain xp or else you might as well let bots exist.

[–]ciitiien -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

With your stupid fucking logic, basically powerleveling in GW2 or WoW or any other MMORPG shouldn't be there either, but it is, because it's in the game mechanics. You care way too much about how people play games. If I cared that much about how players play MMOs as a PvP heavy player, I'd be basically calling PvE players a bunch of no life faggots that need to kill themselves because they're not playing the game how in my opinion it should be played. Stop caring how other people play the games and play for yourself.

[–]TehJellyfish$300 for 99 Prayer ty based Jamflex [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Powerleveling requires you to actually be playing the game, and putting that extra effort and knowledge into the game, that is not the case with Guthans NMZ and splashing.

[–]AshadurAlceil [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Buddy you might not agree with my logic. However the logic you're presenting is to stick my head in the sand. You don't play an MMO to just have your account auto gain xp. You play an MMO to gain xp yourself, by actually interacting with the world.

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    [–]mattchampin [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

    Good thing other people playing the game differently has 0 effect on your game play. But have fun elsewhere!

    [–]Knae94 [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

    Yep zulrah in it's current state means that in the future there will be bosses that are 10m/h. Great deduction skills bro!

    p.s see you in a week

    [–]Sammcman [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

    Is splashing faster than alching?

    [–]nodeLT [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

    depends on what you are casting

    [–]lolitslad [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

    GOOD

    [–]JakeAyche [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

    Zulrah hasn't harmed the game and was already nerfed. 6 hour afking hasn't harmed the game and the community already voted to keep it in the game.

    [–]OsrsNeedsF2P [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

    I admit I splash and use Guthans.

    I admit I take advantage of Zeah's OP resource drops.

    But I would give my bloody account to see the shit fixed. It's an addiction.

    [–]howtofixthegame[S] [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

    No problem with that. If it's here you should use it but it needs to be fixed.

    [–]cblazerunrip pure [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

    ok

    [–]iPostedAlie -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (5子コメント)

    Lol "That person getting high stats somehow makes the high stats I got worth less. I only judge how I feel about my preformance based on how many other people get it too, I need to have higher stats than everyone to stroke my massive ego".

    People complaining about NMZ, saying its going to "turn out like the main game did" are honestly stupid. NMZ only affects two people, those who do it and those who cry about it 24/7. Most players, such as myself, who don't fall into either category and just do our own thing find over-dramatic posts like these just flat out annoying. "Fuck Jagex what a shit company there are 3 components of their game I dont like and think should be removed and they havent removed it and its going to end up like RuneScape did when they removed PKing and added trade limits and its the same thing and people should know i spent way too much time getting 99 combat and blah blah blah".

    [–]destroyer904 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    If you get maxed and campout zulrah you are affecting the economy by dumping a bunch of shit into the game. So this is a problem for everybody.

    [–]iPostedAlie 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    There is like an image this subreddit has where like 20% of the runescape population has maxed with guthans and is camping Zulrah 24/7.

    [–]destroyer904 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Yes all the afk methods combined with john c doing horrible on drop tables it wont long till 07 gp is worth 1:1 with rs3

    [–]iPostedAlie -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Totally gonna happen, just a matter of days.

    [–]DrarrajPea Vee Em 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Thanks for insulting my intelligence because I care for the integrity of the game. High horse much?

    [–]Thatsspirit20k is more than i've ever had -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Good riddance. Go cry somewhere else.

    [–]DaNewChamp [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

    6 hour afking psychologically hurts a lot of the community.

    [–]TheMichael22 [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

    See you in a few months

    [–]pentalics -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    I really starting to look for an other mmo.. Getting sick of "we only listen to the community" and then just ignore the issues. Atm i see a dead future.

    [–]Payder [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

    They DO listen to the community. They polled it and it didn't pass. Stop fucking crying and circlejerking about it

    [–]vetokele [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

    They never polled 6 hour AFK xp. It should be polled and require 75% to remain in the game.

    [–]howtofixthegame[S] -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I have a ton of Steam games I have to catch up on so I'm good.

    [–]destroyer904 -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I really hate how they avoid issues. Thats jagex for you.

    [–]Voraxxi1337Skillz [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

    This game was looking up with the whole F2P and GE, the player base has risen massively. If they keep avoiding the questions, then people will just leave the game, and they will lose money. I don't know what the fuck Jagex are thinking, if they remove it it's a win-win situation...

    [–]howtofixthegame[S] [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

    They simply took to long to attempt to even take it out of the game. People are so accusomed to it now that without it they don't even know how to play the game anymore. They figure that more people will stay subbed longer because they are afking which also makes the game look more popular than it is. I love when people make the posts about 07 having more players online then rs3 but don't realize 25% of the players are using nmz/afking. They also figure that they will attract players that just want to play for pking and end game content without working for it. However this just kills off veteran players and kills the intergrity of the game. The game just feels like a private server now.

    [–]scaper123 [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

    Also about to try out some other games, OSRS is getting as lame as RS3.