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[–]Anarcho_CapitalistAnarcho-Capitalist 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What the fuck are you talking about? I worked with Jesus about a year ago on a water filtration plant project. He was a cool guy, we went out for beers a couple of times. He was a catholic, and had three kids. He was good at managing a crew of about 10. He was not and anarchist though. We had plenty of political conversations when we where drinking, so I would know.

[–]RenegadeMindsVoluntarist 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Heh! This gets posted here every now and then, but it's the first time I've seen you post it. :) Do you have a web site?

I read this essay first on anti-state.com. The site seemed to be no longer maintained, so I mirrored it here (I hope you don't mind).

I'm looking forward to reading the other articles you've posted there.

For others: "Jesus Is An Anarchist" is an excellent read.

[–]juslenRemember Ex_Logica 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Santa Clause was a communist.

[–]YesYesLibertariansIgnorance of The Law is no excuse 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, that's a Tim Allen movie.

[–]InitiumNovumFisting deep for liberty 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

The whole notion of the Omega Point is not proof of God, rather it is a futurist hypothesis that million upon millions (perhaps billions) of years from now, intelligent life in the universe will link up and develop some sort of God-like entity using all the resources of the universe. It is a hypothesis that life will create a God and that God does not yet exist, rather than the traditional view that God was there in the beginning and created the universe and life. Therefore, the notion of the Omega Point is an idea that is not compatible with Christianity or any other mainstream religion. In one of your papers, you mention that this is reliant to a certain extent on the notion of a "Big Crunch", which is that the universe will collapse in on itself, like a reverse Big Bang. However, this idea is now not thought to be the case, the most likely scenario is the infinite expansion and inevitable heat death of the universe.

As for your point about Jesus, he seems to have espoused ideals compatible with libertarian socialism, not anarcho-capitalism in any way.

[–]JamesRedford[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hi, InitiumNovum. You appear to be confusing Pierre Teilhard de Chardin's Omega Point concept with that of physicist and mathematician Prof. Frank J. Tipler's Omega Point cosmology. The two are quite different things, even though they both share a melioristic outlook. At any rate, based upon your descriptions, you clearly know essentially nothing about Prof. Tipler's Omega Point cosmology, except a few vague ideas in which to mangle.

Physicist and mathematician Prof. Frank J. Tipler's Omega Point cosmology is a proof (i.e., mathematical theorem) of God's existence per the known laws of physics (viz., the Second Law of Thermodynamics, General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics), which have been confirmed by every experiment to date. Hence, the only way to avoid the Omega Point Theorem is to reject empirical science. As Prof. Stephen Hawking wrote, "one cannot really argue with a mathematical theorem." (From p. 67 of Stephen Hawking, The Illustrated A Brief History of Time [New York, NY: Bantam Books, 1996; 1st ed., 1988].) Further, the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model Theory of Everything (TOE) correctly describing and unifying all the forces in physics is also mathematically required by the aforesaid known physical laws, and the Omega Point cosmology is an inherent component of said quantum gravity TOE. The Omega Point cosmology has been published and extensively peer-reviewed in leading physics journals. For much more on the foregoing matters, see my following article:

James Redford, "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Sept. 10, 2012 (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2011), 186 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1974708, http://ssrn.com/abstract=1974708 , http://archive.org/download/ThePhysicsOfGodAndTheQuantumGravityTheoryOfEverything/Redford-Physics-of-God.pdf , http://theophysics.host56.com/Redford-Physics-of-God.pdf .

Additionally, in the below resource are six sections which contain very informative videos of Prof. Tipler explaining the Omega Point cosmology and the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model TOE. The seventh section therein contains an audio interview of Tipler. I also provide some helpful notes and commentary for some of these videos.

James Redford, "Video of Profs. Frank Tipler and Lawrence Krauss's Debate at Caltech: Can Physics Prove God and Christianity?", alt.sci.astro, Message-ID: jghev8tcbv02b6vn3uiq8jmelp7jijluqk[at sign]4ax[period]com , July 30, 2013, https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.sci.astro/KQWt4KcpMVo , http://archive.today/a04w9 , http://webcitation.org/6IUTAMEyS .

[–]Liber-TEADiscordian Egoist 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Omega Point? Got a link to info?

[–]InitiumNovumFisting deep for liberty 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

[–]aletoledojustice derives freedom 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'll try to read your papers tomorrow, but they're a bit too much to get through at the moment, so maybe i can ask you a question or two?

  1. What do you see as the "mark of the beast" to mean? It looks like a lot of what you talk about is in association with physics, but you must have thought some upon what kind of mark would allow someone to participate in Satan's system.
  2. Who do you think the Israelites are? Supposedly they were dispersed and cursed to live among the statists of the world. Do you have any idea how someone might identify themselves sufficiently apart from the others around them?
  3. Lastly, what are James Redford's plans for the near future? Will you confront evil or sit back and wait?

thanks for joining us here.

[–]boxcutter729Radical Decentralist/Freed-Market Anarchist 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

LvC in da house

[–]TheSlicemanAnd then Odin said.."let there be roads" and ROadin transcended. -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (7子コメント)

I would argue that we don't know enough about Jesus to really know. He may have been an anarchist but he was also a pacifist from what we know. If he's a pacifist he surely wasn't into the non aggression principle; didn't he beat the shit out of some Philistines because they were doing business in a place he didn't want them to be doing? A great libertarian he was, pshh. Really you can take any character from thousands of years ago that we only have a few passages of what they're saying and claim they are this or claim they are that.

[–]Matticus_RexReppin' my school 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

didn't he beat the shit out of some Philistines because they were doing business in a place he didn't want them to be doing

No?

[–]JamesRedford[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (5子コメント)

TheSliceman, you wrote, "didn't he [Yeshua Ha'Mashiach] beat the shit out of some Philistines because they were doing business in a place he didn't want them to be doing?" The answer to your question is No.

Coincidentally enough, an article has actually been written on this very subject. My following article demonstrates the logically unavoidable anarchism of Jesus Christ's teachings as recorded in the New Testament (in addition to analyzing their context in relation to his actions, to the Tanakh, and to his apostles). It is logically complete on this subject, in the sense of its apodixis.

James Redford, "Jesus Is an Anarchist", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Dec. 4, 2011 (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2001), 60 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1337761, http://ssrn.com/abstract=1337761 , http://archive.org/download/JesusIsAnAnarchist/Redford-Jesus-Is-an-Anarchist.pdf , http://theophysics.host56.com/anarchist-jesus.pdf .

[–]TheSlicemanAnd then Odin said.."let there be roads" and ROadin transcended. 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

What if I told you that your sources for what Jesus said are not what Jesus said.

Your playing telephone in over a dozen languages for 2 thousand years then saying that your sources are infallible.

Sorry, but they're not. The most likely scenario is that we have a very general idea of who Jesus was and what his intentions were, at best. Most probable is that we have no fucking clue who he was as a person no more than we do Thor or Freyja.

[–]JamesRedford[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hi, TheSliceman. In your previous post you were also making imbecilic statements, such as your rhetorical question, "didn't he [Yeshua Ha'Mashiach] beat the shit out of some Philistines because they were doing business in a place he didn't want them to be doing?" First of all, it's the Pharisees you're thinking of, not the Philistines; and second of all, no, Jesus did not beat up anyone, not even the Pharisees.

You clearly know essentially nothing about this subject, except enough vague ideas in which to seriously mangle them. Yet your almost total ignorance of the subject hasn't prevented you from forming strong and vociferous opinions regarding it. To quote Prof. Murray N. Rothbard on this matter (from p. 4 of "Anarcho-Communism", The Libertarian Forum, Vol. 2, No. 1 [Jan. 1, 1970], pp. 1 and 4, http://www.mises.org/journals/lf/1970/1970_01_01.pdf , http://webcitation.org/6K8WaX5VF ):

It is no crime to be ignorant of economics, which is, after all, a specialized discipline and one that most people consider to be a "dismal science." But it is totally irresponsible to have a loud and vociferous opinion on economic subjects while remaining in this state of ignorance.

More than just pertaining to economics, the underlying thrust of Prof. Rothbard's above reproval applies equally to other fields of vital human knowledge, including religion and politics.

Further, when you say, "Most probable is that we have no fucking clue who he was as a person no more than we do Thor or Freyja", you're thereby putting forth the Christ Myth theory, which virtually all academic historians (including the atheist historians) reject handily.

Regarding the Christ Myth theory, virtually all the items which the Christ Myth theorists claim as facts which show the parallels of Christianity with earlier pagan religions are completely fabricated modern claims that can't be found in the historical record. For an excellent discussion on this, see the following video:

"Shattering The Christ Myth (JP Holding)", exposedatheists, Dec. 21, 2010, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxbYhy76GLQ , http://blip.tv/apologetics/jp-holding-on-the-christ-myth-1613139 , https://myspace.com/philosophyandtheology/video/shattering-the-christ-myth/57136163 , http://bethelchristianfellowship.info/flash_media/jp3ChristMythCopyCat.m4v .

The above video is an interview of James Patrick Holding (editor of Shattering the Christ Myth: Did Jesus Not Exist? [Maitland, Fla.: Xulon Press, 2008], http://amazon.com/dp/1606472712 ) by Dr. Craig Johnson on the topic of the Christ Myth theory. See also the below resources regarding the Christ Myth theory on J. P. Holding's website:

"Were Bible stories and characters stolen from pagan myths?", Tekton Education and Apologetics Ministry, http://www.tektonics.org/copycathub.html .

"Did Jesus exist?", op. cit., http://www.tektonics.org/jesusexisthub.html .

If one wishes to actually obtain veridical understanding into the most crucial fields of sapient knowledge, then I have made it as easy as possible for one to do so via my own writings. My below articles explain to people (1) theological ethics and soteriology in a comprehensive and logically-coherent manner; (2) how the known laws of physics prove God's existence while demonstrating the exacting and extensive consilience of the New Testament with said physical laws; (3) the nature of God in light of said physical laws; (4) the End Time, the Tribulation, the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, the foundation of Heaven on Earth, and the universal resurrection of the dead in light of said physical laws; and (5) the End Time in light of the history of the globalist oligarchy's self-termed New World Order world government and world religion agenda.

Item No. 1 is important vis-à-vis salvation for those who maintain that they already believe in Jesus Christ's Godhead. Items Nos. 2-5 are important in letting atheists, believers in other religions, and nominal ersatz "Christians" know that God as described by the New Testament does exist and that the New Testament is true. Items Nos. 2-5 are additionally important in giving believers in Christ a much deeper understanding of God and of the End Time, so that they may be strengthened in their faith during the extreme horrors to come and so that they will not fall for the deceptions of the Beast governmental system.

My following articles distill all of the most important aspects of veridical human knowledge into a comprehensive, coherent and unified whole: from theology, physics, science, ethics, legal theory, political theory, economics, sociology, epistemology to history.

James Redford, "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Sept. 10, 2012 (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2011), 186 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1974708, http://ssrn.com/abstract=1974708 , http://archive.org/download/ThePhysicsOfGodAndTheQuantumGravityTheoryOfEverything/Redford-Physics-of-God.pdf , http://theophysics.host56.com/Redford-Physics-of-God.pdf .

James Redford, "Video of Profs. Frank Tipler and Lawrence Krauss's Debate at Caltech: Can Physics Prove God and Christianity?", alt.sci.astro, Message-ID: jghev8tcbv02b6vn3uiq8jmelp7jijluqk[at sign]4ax[period]com , July 30, 2013, https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.sci.astro/KQWt4KcpMVo , http://archive.today/a04w9 , http://webcitation.org/6IUTAMEyS .

James Redford, "Jesus Is an Anarchist", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Dec. 4, 2011 (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2001), 60 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1337761, http://ssrn.com/abstract=1337761 , http://archive.org/download/JesusIsAnAnarchist/Redford-Jesus-Is-an-Anarchist.pdf , http://theophysics.host56.com/anarchist-jesus.pdf .

James Redford, "Libertarian Anarchism Is Apodictically Correct", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Dec. 15, 2011, 9 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1972733, http://ssrn.com/abstract=1972733 , http://archive.org/download/LibertarianAnarchismIsApodicticallyCorrect/Redford-Apodictic-Libertarianism.pdf , http://theophysics.host56.com/Redford-Apodictic-Libertarianism.pdf .

[–]TheSlicemanAnd then Odin said.."let there be roads" and ROadin transcended. -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lmao

[–]EdwardFordTheSecondKali Yuga 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Language isn't really a big deal with the NT, scholars have a pretty good (dare I say perfect) understanding of the Koine Greek it was written in.

Not disputing anything else you've written just thought I'd correct you there.

[–]Anen-o-meIf at first you don't secede... 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We have about two dozen thousand Greek NT manuscripts dating to the first century and after, what you've said is untrue.

By contrast we have about four copies of Pliny the Elder and similar ancient documents considered authoritative.

[–]ch21stpunch32 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

When are you people going to give this a rest? Jesus may have possibly been an anarchist as a real person, but the only detailed account is from the bible. And the bible is incredibly authoritarian. If you want to focus on some cute counterculture statements from the gospels (and ignore when Jesus said to pay your taxes and that he wasn't there to overthrow the romans), fine. But then you have to just pretend that the apostle Paul and the other NT letter writers didn't exist.

On many occasions the bible says that all leaders are appointed by god and that defying earthly authority is defying the divine. We are to obey the laws of our land no matter how unjust they are, UNLESS they go against a direct order from god.

I don't want to link to the passages unless someone challenges me, I hate embedding on mobile.

But all in all, trying to claim Christianity coincides with anarchy is nothing more than grasping at straws, trying to justify your modern sense of right and wrong with the iron-age myth that helps you sleep at night.

Cherrypickers, all of you. Take whatever meaning from the bible that is most convenient to your present view of ethics. You do realize that socialists claim Jesus as theirs as well, right? And frankly, they make a WAAAAAYYYY better case.

[–]Anen-o-meIf at first you don't secede... 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not all leaders, but authorities, which could be interpreted as law, police, and courts, which would also exist in a voluntarist ancap context, and which we don't oppose.

[–]SnakesoverEaglesMurray Rothbard -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Slave morality. I prefer my associates not be pussies who will turn the other cheek.

[–]JamesRedford[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Hi, SnakesoverEagles. You wrote, "Slave morality. I prefer my associates not be pussies who will turn the other cheek."

God is the purest of anarcho-libertarian who can logically exist. Rothbardians are merely followers catching up with Christ. My following article demonstrates the logically unavoidable anarchism of Jesus Christ's teachings as recorded in the New Testament (in addition to analyzing their context in relation to his actions, to the Tanakh, and to his apostles). It is logically complete on this subject, in the sense of its apodixis.

James Redford, "Jesus Is an Anarchist", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Dec. 4, 2011 (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2001), 60 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1337761, http://ssrn.com/abstract=1337761 , http://archive.org/download/JesusIsAnAnarchist/Redford-Jesus-Is-an-Anarchist.pdf , http://theophysics.host56.com/anarchist-jesus.pdf , http://webcitation.org/66AIz2rJw , http://pdf-archive.com/2013/09/10/redford-jesus-is-an-anarchist/redford-jesus-is-an-anarchist.pdf .

Further, God has been proven to exist according to the known laws of physics. For much more on that, see my below article, which details physicist and mathematician Prof. Frank J. Tipler's Omega Point cosmology, which is a proof (i.e., mathematical theorem) of God's existence per the known physical laws (viz., the Second Law of Thermodynamics, General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics), and the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model Theory of Everything (TOE) correctly describing and unifying all the forces in physics, which is also required by the known laws of physics. Said known physical laws require that the universe end in the Omega Point: the final cosmological singularity and state of infinite computational capacity having all the unique properties traditionally claimed for God, and of which is a different aspect of the Big Bang initial singularity, i.e., the first cause. The Omega Point cosmology has been published and extensively peer-reviewed in leading physics journals.

James Redford, "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Sept. 10, 2012 (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2011), 186 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1974708, http://ssrn.com/abstract=1974708 , http://archive.org/download/ThePhysicsOfGodAndTheQuantumGravityTheoryOfEverything/Redford-Physics-of-God.pdf , http://theophysics.host56.com/Redford-Physics-of-God.pdf , http://alphaomegapoint.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/redford-physics-of-god.pdf , http://sites.google.com/site/physicotheism/home/Redford-Physics-of-God.pdf .

Additionally, in the below resource are six sections which contain very informative videos of Prof. Tipler explaining the Omega Point cosmology and the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model TOE. The seventh section therein contains an audio interview of Tipler. I also provide some helpful notes and commentary for some of these videos.

James Redford, "Video of Profs. Frank Tipler and Lawrence Krauss's Debate at Caltech: Can Physics Prove God and Christianity?", alt.sci.astro, Message-ID: jghev8tcbv02b6vn3uiq8jmelp7jijluqk[at sign]4ax[period]com , July 30, 2013, https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.sci.astro/KQWt4KcpMVo , http://archive.today/a04w9 , http://webcitation.org/6IUTAMEyS , https://wayback.archive.org/web/20131024025706/http://archive.is/a04w9 , http://megalodon.jp/2013-1120-0627-11/archive.is/a04w9 .

[–]SnakesoverEaglesMurray Rothbard -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

As God, I would like to tell you that I personally appreciate all of your hard work, keep it up!

[–]JamesRedford[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hi, SnakesoverEagles. You wrote, "As God, I would like to tell you that I personally appreciate all of your hard work, keep it up!"

You are a finite proper subset of God, but your presently-limited mental computational resources are not the infinite totality of God. Rather, God is your ultimate superset. For the details on this, see my above-cited articles "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything" and "Video of Profs. Frank Tipler and Lawrence Krauss's Debate at Caltech: Can Physics Prove God and Christianity?".