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[–]TheJaoelMan 273 ポイント274 ポイント  (33子コメント)

They over-simplify the game way too much by saying that the game is based on violence. Even in real life, if you're surviving on your own, you will have to kill animals in order to survive.

Hell, even chess is more violent than Minecraft.

[–]Autobot248 146 ポイント147 ポイント  (12子コメント)

Chess is literally just about fighting. Maybe they're vaguely anthropomorphic pieces of wood but still

[–]Qichin 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (7子コメント)

There should totally be a campaign about banning chess due to it literally being a war simulator.

[–]Autobot248 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (3子コメント)

That revolves on winning the game via murdering someone, and sacrificing pawns.

[–]brandon0220 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (2子コメント)

not to mention the blatent animal abuse every time you pit the knight in any fighting /s

[–]Autobot248 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I wonder if someone could get PETA to campaign against chess because it's horse cruelty

[–]BudTokin 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Would it matter? All of the knights they would "save" would have to be put to sleep because they wouldn't be able to care for them all.

[–]Lampmonster1 57 ポイント58 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Sports, art, literature, they're all touched by violence. It's inherent to our nature. Should we strive to be less violent, sure. We'll never get completely away from it though. Best to have an outlet if you ask me.

[–]roo_inline 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

in words of a comic i saw some time ago... violence is the universal art, and we cant do anything about it

edit: i think it was "kill six billion demons"

[–]mr_dirk_pitt 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You dare question the words of these authorities? ? /s

[–]SarcasticSquirrl 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (4子コメント)

If you wanted you could just not kill any animals. Makes the game a lot harder though.

Now if you want to talk about tree genocide though. That is where the real problem lies. Letting children think you can just cut and burn your way though the forest for your own personal gain. Tree terrorists are not people, just animals* (which you are not allowed to hurt)

  • : Journalists excluded due to seditious tendencies ruining our great Turkish heritage.

[–]JustVan 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I have definitely had friends play Minecraft "vegetarian" style, though leather/books become difficult. (Lots of fishing required and that's a problem if you don't want to catch fish since there's no release-feature for the fish caught.) Not killing mobs is possible too but a lot more difficult and dangerous. Ultimately though if you're gonna not allow that level of violent in video games you've gotta ban everything from PacMac to Super Mario Bros as well.

[–]perfectchazz321 35 ポイント36 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Yep, minecraft is just real life in a video game, with some added fun stuff :D

[–]skeddles 60 ポイント61 ポイント  (4子コメント)

LIKE MURDER.

[–]NDWolfwood5268 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Can confirm. I was playing the game and a friend kept "accidentally" hitting me with a pickaxe while mining.

By the fourth time this happened, I killed him, stole his valuables and then did the same to his character.

[–]Catskills78 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Plot twist!

[–]pizzahut91 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's a horrible description. To compare Minecraft to real life is ignoring pretty much every aspect of the game.

[–]LordSaad 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Like the fact that it's a big virtual lego... And the 3D sword that murders stuff is actually a few large blue pixels unlike the millions of games with advanced 3D graphics that add every single polygon to a gun and your only goal is to kill...

[–]ItCameFromTheSkyBeLo 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

REAL LIFE NEEDS TO BE BANNED!!!

[–]Paarthurnaxx 249 ポイント250 ポイント  (43子コメント)

This is the twitter hashtag Turkish people use against this: #DirenMinecraft.

It can use some boost.

[–]red_leinad 56 ポイント57 ポイント  (42子コメント)

Google Translate gives #ResistMinecraft or, alternatively, #PitchforkMinecraft. What does it mean?

[–]Paarthurnaxx 69 ポイント70 ポイント  (10子コメント)

It means #ResistMinecraft. "Diren" is the imperative form of the verb "Direnmek" which means "to resist" .

Edit: Added a clarification

[–]red_leinad 48 ポイント49 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Isn't that what the Turkish government wants? I'm so confused.

[–]Cambridge_ 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (6子コメント)

More like resistance.

[–]SapienChavez 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (3子コメント)

you just have to say it with a french accent then there is no confusion.

LA RESISTANCE!

[–]Crafterkid123 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

HIDE GUNS IN ALL OF THE BOOKS!

[–]_aex 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

HIDE GUNS IN ALL OF THE FLOORBOARDS!

[–]Bobboy5 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Though it's dead, la resistance lives on!

[–]flameoguy 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

[–]Owalmas 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (27子コメント)

Two years ago in Turkey the government wanted to cut the trees of a famous park located in one of the capitals of Istanbul. People resisted and prevented the destruction. In time it turned into a symbolic resistance with the hashtag #Diren or #Resist. Guess now its time to take action again.

[–]AQ90 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (26子コメント)

Minecraft VS GTA in a battle of violence: GTA wins by a mile so if they think banning minecraft will change anything, then fuck turkey.

[–]Admicos 116 ポイント117 ポイント  (19子コメント)

This is one of my reasons to want to get to another country. (Yes, yes, im Turkish.)

BTW, banning doesn't do an effect here. I mean goverment banned twitter some months ago. Nothing is changed. People was still going to twitter. (They unbanned it later) Same with YouTube.

[–]Admicos 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (12子コメント)

This all happened because some random kid on the news said it. There's videos of that news record on the internet.

[–]pizzahut91 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (8子コメント)

I want to see that, hopefully with English captions.

[–]Admicos 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (7子コメント)

i guess i could do that. But it'll be like a day or two. BC school and stuff

[–]Montyz 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (4子コメント)

RemindMe! 2 days

[–]Admicos 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, could find that video and subtitled it alerady. But, its so short (26 seconds) im gonna find some more recordings. And maybe some fun recreations at the end

[–]MmmVomit 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (1子コメント)

A friend of mine is Turkish. When she showed the original article about the investigation to her parents, they said some government official's kid must be spending too much time playing Minecraft.

[–]Caboose106 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Instead of being a better parent and monitoring what my child does, I'm going to ban the game so I won't have to monitor them!

[–]Niraux 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm relatively new to the country, and even I'm considering getting out. Plz Rejup wat r u doin?

[–]samasaurus6 471 ポイント472 ポイント  (89子コメント)

Ugh this is so ridiculous. I have no words to express how utterly thick-minded some of those people are. If Minecraft is a "violent" video game, 95% of ALL other games are "violent" too and should therefore, by Turkey's logic, be banned.

[–]senselesswander 188 ポイント189 ポイント  (33子コメント)

It's very strange to single out Minecraft, but I guess its overwhelming popularity has it stand out and that results in it becoming a target of unfair assessments like this.

I'd be surprised if Mojang doesn't at least directly send a letter countering the accusations and conclusions drawn. This kind of news can spread to other communities and similarly disengaged representatives/parents could agree after less or no research at all.

Sounds like they minimally looked into the mechanics of the game and let confirmation bias do the work. Mojang should really provide a statement that touches on game modes available, comparative looks at other games, insight into objectives ("violence" vs. what is usually just "farming" and "protection against unsympathetic monsters"), studies that conclude that by and large violence in video games does not correlate with children committing violent acts in real life, and ultimately how any violent activity in the game is greatly outweighed by objectives/encouragements to think creatively, work together, plan ahead, learn about logic (redstone), and explore.

[–]samasaurus6 53 ポイント54 ポイント  (30子コメント)

Yeah I really hope Mojang have someone in contact with those fools in Turkey. I have younger brothers who get upset when I kill their animals haha. Not everyone plays the same. You could probably play the whole game without laying a finger on an animal. Either way though, the whole analogy that video game violence causes real life violence is pretty insane. Especially with a game like Minecraft being the game that's called violent...

[–]KrishaCZ 54 ポイント55 ポイント  (27子コメント)

There is a PETA server where you can't harm animals...

[–]Crafterkid123 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (1子コメント)

They had a build contest and people made anti peta signs and meat factories.

[–]Plasmus642 42 ポイント43 ポイント  (13子コメント)

I wish I could say I'm surprised.

[–]Litagano 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (12子コメント)

That being said, a gamemode where there are no animals to get food from and you have to farm all your food would be pretty interesting.

[–]red_leader2101 40 ポイント41 ポイント  (4子コメント)

you mean vegan gamemode?

[–]Battletooth 35 ポイント36 ポイント  (3子コメント)

If Scott Pilgrim taught me anything, it's that mode would be over powered.

[–]Roboticide 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You have to build and attend Vegan Academy first, before those powers unlock.

[–]ocdude 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Less possible to do now given that books require leather so enchanting is basically completely out.

[–]Bongo9911 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Villages and strongholds have bookshelves which you can get boos from

[–]ocdude 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Good point. Villagers also trade enchanted books and tools, so if you found a good village you'd be set.

[–]Neamow 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sooo... just farm potatoes? Nothing hard about that.

[–]Drando_HS 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was on a vegetarian server once. No meat for substinance. It was actually quite challenging and I kinda enjoyed it. But nowadays with carrots and potatos it's much less difficult though.

[–]gullale 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not very realistic...

[–]Cyphir88 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

A "People Eat Tasty Animals" server? Isn't that every server?

[–]TelamonianAjax 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Such a hilarious joke!

[–]SarcasticSquirrl 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can. When I played I would build underground, put a wheat and tree farm down there. Done.

No need to leave, no animal grinders with industrial breeding pens and separating the young from the food class creatures for milling.

[–]Interference22 46 ポイント47 ポイント  (0子コメント)

These are the sort of people who are convinced videogames are the devil and there's nothing you can do to convince them otherwise because they don't care. If they were reviewing Hello Kitty Roller Rescue they'd find something objectionable with it. The fact that Minecraft is ultimately a creative, learning experience isn't something they want to hear: they just want something popular to ban to make their political career look pro-active without actually doing anything that requires effort.

[–]Luberjack 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (7子コメント)

What's really ridiculous is how they thought it was violent towards women.

[–]jpegxguy 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

the poor enderdragon though... /s

[–]Drando_HS 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (3子コメント)

There weren't even women in it until recently.

[–]ercsredditaccount 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

And still the only difference is that the arms are a bit thinner.

[–]hardypart 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (25子コメント)

In primary school I had a class mate whose parents (very religious christians) didn't allow him to play ANY game involving lifes, so not even Super Mario or something similar.

[–]pumpkinbot 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Remember! You should start teaching your child at an early age that life is infinite and they won't eventually die!

EDIT: Y'know, I don't think Mario ever calls it "lives" anywhere in the game. (At least the first.) Why not call them "tries" like Atari games?

[–]Mr_Goop 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Put asterisks ** like this ** for bold stuff and it comes out like this

[–]pumpkinbot 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh, derp. Yeah, I was half asleep. :y

[–]Zaranthan 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I always got a kick when a game called extra lives "chances". Like, if the story was framed as some sort of contest the character was participating in, then fine, but he just fell into a pit of lava. He ded.

[–]cube1234567890 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I know SMG calls them "Extra marios"

[–]samasaurus6 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Although I personally don't have the same beliefs as those parents, I believe that is at least a better method than country-wide banning of a game. Parents should be responsible for what they consider suitable gaming material. My dad bought me Bayonetta when I was like 11 (He didn't really look at the reviews or anything) and as soon as my mum saw it she was like o-o and grabbed it off of me haha. I didn't mind though because I understood why and I got to play it eventually anyway.

[–]hardypart 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I remember when the parents of another friend of mine saw GTA (the first one). They called my parents to report about the cruel games we're playing. But you're absolutely right, that should lie in the responsibility of the parents, not of the law.

[–]Bunkii 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (5子コメント)

They can be right in a way, GTA is not really apropriate for young children. But that's not a reason to ban the game, making it pegi 18 or whatever should be the only output

[–]midoman111 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (4子コメント)

The thing is, people will still manage to download or buy 18+ games. Parents need to monitor what their children are downloading. I was playing GTA Vice City when I was 6 years old, and finished the first CoD game when I was 7.

[–]snerp 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I was like 10 or 11 when CoD1 and Vice City came out, bought and played both games with my dad. We would play CoD online together and loudly talk shit to each other. It's one of my favorite dad memories, I dunno why people are so scared of video games.

[–]marioman63 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (8子コメント)

my parents used to be like that, except they only singled out RPGs for some reason. as long as it wasnt an RPG of any sort, it was fine. could play mario sunshine, mario kart, super smash bros, anything, but i couldnt play paper mario, or final fantasy or other RPGs, even if the content in the non rpgs was "worse".

[–]Dudesan 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Perhaps this was a holdout from the Satanic Panic of the 80s, where a bunch of yahoos collectively decided that Dungeons and Dragons taught the players real magic.

[–]SarcasticSquirrl 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Good damn it! You only tell me know I could have been using real magic for all these decades?!?

[–]MrOinkers 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

i just imagine your friend getting catched by his dad and he screams at him "THE ONLY ONE WHO COMES BACK FROM THE DEAD IN THIS HOUSE IS OUR DEAR LORD." the reasoning is dumb, but not allowing your kids vg's is just parenting.

[–]Vargolol 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sounds like somebody in Turkey's Family Ministry started a Turkey-only server and got greifed and killed

/s

[–]QuelRes 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lol :) It could be it .. Or maybe even a creeper :)

[–]Crafterkid123 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They must think Tetris is sexual, Mario is animal abuse/murder spree themed, Pokemon is satanic, etc.

[–]poltergeist07 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (2子コメント)

The entire Turkish Family Ministry would have to suffer from debilitating brain trauma to actually believe that Minecraft is an example of extraordinary violence. Minecraft is, however, an extremely popular icon of Western culture, and I think it is plausible that this is why they banned it.

But maybe I give them too much credit...

[–]MrCrayfish 69 ポイント70 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Really!? Do you honestly think a child would go outside and start hitting it's own pet dog just because they hit a wolf in Minecraft. Some people are dumb as fuck, sadly it's probably older people who do not understand games, or even technology.

[–]justgrif 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Some people are dumb as fuck, sadly it's probably older people who do not understand games, or even technology.

Or a government run by adult children.

[–]faissaloo 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

But if they were adult children then they wouldn't be banning video games...

[–]keiyakins 49 ポイント50 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Especially since if you hit a wolf, even a tame one, they get seriously mad at you.

[–]jamesmuell 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Ikr, my dog NEVER does that!

[–]wavewave1 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pet wolves don't get angry when you hit them.

[–]hakr14 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (9子コメント)

The Family Ministry, which initially launched its probe to find out whether violence against women was encouraged in Minecraft,

...huuh?

[–]jpegxguy 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I remember seeing an article mentioning the enderdragon being female as an excuse to that statement. If there's ONE game where gender is least needed that would be Minecraft.

[–]RollRoundInTheToilet 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Especially when Notch specifically aimed for the game to be gender-neutral.

[–]jpegxguy 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Ah, some (government) people... You're literally judging video games without having even remotely touched one.

[–]Homicidal_Sheep 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The "probe" is just them seeing a female skin and deciding to throw a shitstorm at the game.

[–]Capopanzone 59 ポイント60 ポイント  (13子コメント)

In most of the Super Mario games one of the first things you do is squashing a walking mushroom, then you jump on turtles and use their shells to kill other poor guys, you steal public money, throw fire at plants, destroy bridges in castles and use animal suits... are Mario games banned?

[–]JRJathome 43 ポイント44 ポイント  (12子コメント)

Forget Mario, do you know how many Pokémon I've killed? ...I mean 'fainted'.

[–]jfb1337 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (11子コメント)

Even chess is more violent. It's literally just about fighting.

[–]onepickman 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Don't forget that it is racist - Black against white, misogynist - only one women and people try to kill that.
And it promotes monarchy.

[–]jfb1337 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (1子コメント)

But the weakest men try to become powerful women - pro trans?

[–]Hiscore 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I know you're joking but the king is obviously more important to kill

[–]FehMac 124 ポイント125 ポイント  (28子コメント)

“Although the game can be seen as encouraging creativity in children by letting them build houses, farmlands and bridges, mobs must be killed in order to protect these structures. In short, the game is based on violence

The f*ck?!

[–]Icalasari 48 ポイント49 ポイント  (6子コメント)

The thing that gets me is the thinking animals feel no pain part

They flee from you in terror if you hit them

[–]trebory6 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (2子コメント)

So real life is too violent too? Maybe we should just slowly let children die because real life is too violent. Providing the meat on the table is too violent apparently.

[–]Cherribomb 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hey, zombies and spiders feel pain! You can't just go around defending yourself against assault!

[–]DefendedCobra29 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

If you look at our history, human progress is often based on violence. Humans have always had to protect their communities, the game is just a reflection of that.

[–]KeenPro 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wars gave us rockets, planes, RADAR, nuclear power, space travel and women's rights.

Peace usually means violence in our communities while we slowly bleed our planet from over population.

Not really sure where I'm going with this but it might be there's bigger problems than wether people should be allowed to play fucking Minecraft. And Turkey very much so.

[–]MasterBrick 63 ポイント64 ポイント  (8子コメント)

So its bad to protect things now? Guess I'll just let someone kill my mother then right, because stopping them would be TOO VIOLENT!

People these days...

[–]East_Threadly 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (2子コメント)

If burglars were trying to blow themselves and my house up for no discernable reason, then I guess I'd have to stop them. This also leaves aside that the best defense against monsters in this game is a simple lit torch, which is perhaps the most passive method of defense in any game ever.

[–]obihansolo 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Basically, the game is based on anti-terrorism and self enlightenment.

[–]Cysioland 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (3子コメント)

It is bad. You should submit to burglar and let him rob you and kill you, and then wait for the law enforcement to take care of him.

[–]DoctorWaluigiTime 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's incredibly based on violence. Especially Peaceful mode.

[–]Bloq 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

do they even peaceful mode?

At the very most just force peaceful mode upon the turks :P

[–]FrostCollar 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

mobs must be killed in order to protect these structures.

In vanilla no mobs actively target buildings and even if they did fighting off a goofy four legged green thing from expanding is about as benign and kid-friendly as violence gets.

[–]throwawayfodder 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (1子コメント)

There is a little truth to this. After creating my automated cow farm, I now have the desire to roast endless amounts of cows to death in a fire in real life. The desire is overwhelming. Help me.

I also stomp any turtle I come across. You can thank the demon plumber Mario for that.

[–]shawnaroo 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If it wasn't for Mario, our cities would've been overrun by turtles years ago.

[–]DjTalica 37 ポイント38 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Some children may confuse the real world with the game world after playing Minecraft

Gotta avoid those real life creepers and zombies

[–]FrostCollar 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Every morning I wash myself in a blob of water floating in my bathroom and take about 200 cubic meters of dirt with me in my pockets to help me get around.

[–]flameoguy 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Don't forget taking your mining and woodcutting equipment with you to the beach.

[–]FrostCollar 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Of course, but I don't even drop those when I sleep.

[–]flameoguy 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Still, you should probably harvest your farm daily to get enough food.

[–]bretttwarwick 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The other day I got shot with a bunch of arrows so I ate 6 baked potatoes. I am fine now.

[–]ChRoNicBuRrItOs 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

But you at least killed the skeleton with that diamond sword you made with your bare hands, right?

[–]billyK_ 46 ポイント47 ポイント  (25子コメント)

So, by this logic, we ban COD, BF games, any game with any remote violence in it, so there goes Skyrim, Assassins Creed, and so on.

How about this simple logic: If you don't want your kids to play the game, don't buy it for them. Seriously, how difficult is something that simple to understand?

[–]Admicos 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (19子コメント)

A lot of Minecraft players here (in Turkey) crack the game. So, not buying is not an option

p.s i bought the game

[–]gjallerhorn 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (12子コメント)

Parents can't supervise what their children do on the computer?

[–]Bright-Spark 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Let's be honest: A lot of parents around the world don't know how, or that they can do that.

[–]noname10 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (5子コメント)

It's a simple matter of putting the computer in an easily viewable/supervisable location like the living room. There is no technical know-how necessary to know how to do that. My parents did it until I was 16 years old or something like that and they aren't the only ones I know that do so.

It's not knowledge that is stopping parents from checking what their kids are doing.

[–]Strideo 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It does no good!

I put the computer in a corner of the living room but I'm pretty sure my ten year old is still looking at porn!

Without at least a master's degree in computer engineering I'm helpless here! I'm pretty sure the computer has gained sentience and is in league with my child.

It's already gained control over all the light switches in my home and it's hacked into the garage door opener and opens and closes it at will! I need help!

If only I knew how to use a computer myself!

Oh God! They know I'm talking about them! I've got to-

[–]bretttwarwick 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That was nice of them to press the save button for you.

[–]Bright-Spark 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Children can still slip something past the watchful eyes of their parents. For example I installed a bluescreen screensaver on April Fools Day once and downloaded all sorts of stuff on my mum's PC without her noticing when I was younger.

[–]red_leinad 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Some kids in richer countries own laptops, however; and they can't be taken away because their schools require them.

[–]red_leinad 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They can try, but ultimately they will fail. Children are sneaky. I speak from personal experience.

[–]flameoguy 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

If we banned every video game with violence, the only games left would be Tetris and some preschoolers' educational games. Almost every game I've ever played involved some sort of killing or violence.

[–]butsubutsu 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (13子コメント)

Because in Turkey, they would prefer you to kill your sheep on the streets. (NSFW? maybe) FYI- This is a photo from the religious festival Eid al-Adha, where you sacrifice sheep and "The family retains one third of the share; another third is given to relatives, friends and neighbors; and the remaining third is given to the poor and needy." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eid_al-Adha

[–]OneBleachinBot 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (1子コメント)

NSFL? Yikes!

Eye bleach!

I am a robit.

[–]eduardog3000 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

One day this bot is going to betray us.

[–]Seraphaestus 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

NSFL, not NSFW

[–]BenMads 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (13子コメント)

I can't help but laugh at this.

[–]Denos 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm really ashamed of my country... Once again!

[–]yelkca 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I'm so sick of people who've never touched a video game in their life drawing conclusions like this. I never confused a game for reality (or reality for a game) as a kid, I've never met someone who has, as far as I know it just doesn't happen, and certainly by the time a kid is old enough to commit these violent acts they'll know not to. It's ridiculous that these things keep happening.

[–]onepickman 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (4子コメント)

When books started to be written i first person, the same thing happened:
Mostly Politicians and Religious people wanted them t be banned as those books would lead people to murder.

Later the same was said about movies - that horror-movies would create mass-murderers.

idiots never learn, but they still have big influence sadly.

[–]jpegxguy 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Exactly. The way it is right now, every new type of media is going to get criticized until that generation "fades away", and a new one that has been raised with it comes by. It's going to happen to VR headsets soon.

[–]Watermelob 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

VR headsets make GTA 5 (the most violent video game ever?) too realistic, kids might confuse it with real life! it's very hard to find a difference between playing a video game with a headset and a controller and real life! It must be banned!

That was a joke obviously.

[–]LavaEater5 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (1子コメント)

TIL Turkey thinks children are stupid robots.

[–]justgrif 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well it would certainly make them more qualified to run Turkey.

[–]Kealper 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

[–]conspiracyeinstein 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you! I had to move my head like I was watching a tennis match from the front row.

[–]timawesomeness 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

These idiots should not be in control of anything, I conclude.

[–]CaptainAction 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Minecraft is one of the safest, tamest games out there for kids to play. If they didn't play Craft, they would play something else instead, and chances are it would be more violent than MC. Not to mention that the whole "video games inspire violent tendencies and false conceptions about reality in children" is BS.

[–]MinecraftChrizz 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't even know what to say…

[–]cydb 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, that's what you get with a government bordering on a theocracy.

[–]thecooldude101 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

realm life is more violent than minecraft, Turkey would have better spent their time campaigning against war. EDIT: grammar corrections

[–]Watermelob 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

realm

*real

[–]aaronbp 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

If you think Minecraft is too violent, you really don't play enough video games. You should see Harvest Moon!

[–]CaffeinatedLemon 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

my chickens ;-;

[–]ThatUnoSky 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Turkey: Alright, now video games are safe!
Employee: Sir, living mushrooms get killed in the game of Mario
Turkey: Alright, let's ban that shit.

[–]ULiopleurodon 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I have no words. Violence =/= self defense. If you start being violent because of a video game, then you've probably already got some issues, and they don't even remotely touch upon the fact that said 'violence' is OPTIONAL.

[–]Sir_Lemon 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They obviously did no research on the game before doing this. If they did just 30 minutes of research, they would know there's a 'Peaceful' mode where all the hostile mobs become nonexistent and the only ways to die are by letting yourself die. And then there's creative mode, where mobs pay no attention to you or your creations at all. They literally went, "Things can be hurt, therefore this game is much too violent."

How can people this ignorant?

[–]red_leinad 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (4子コメント)

In addition, Minecraft is made of freaking VOXELS. The animals don't even bleed when you hit them. How is this violent?

[–]flameoguy 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh no, my sword-shaped blob of pixels collided with that zombie-shaped blob of pixels! Scarred for life!

[–]kenny1997 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I wonder if the turkish ministry has tried peaceful mode; No monsters to "kill", food is not needed and thus violence is not needed!

[–]AutoGeak 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

They must be smoking some top notch weed if they actually think that minecraft is violent

[–]LiquidShuriken 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He,he,he... top NOTCH :)

[–]WoollyMittens 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Turkey is reversing back to the dark ages so fast the beep beep beep has a Doppler shift.

[–]CruzaComplex 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is pretty absurd.

First of all, Minecraft is a post-scarcity economy. Nothing aside from maybe diamonds is particularly difficult to obtain with time. The "reward" for killing a player is incredibly low and many communities will take collective action against these crimes.

Second of all, death in Minecraft or video games in general does not in any way have the same connotation that it does in real life. What many authoritative figures fail to take into perspective is that death is simply another game mechanic used to punish a failure state. Besides, unless you die in a particularly punishing way (I.E: void or lava) your items will stay obtainable for a decent amount of time afterwards.

Minecraft isn't like games such as Day-Z where death puts you exactly at square (block?) one. You still keep anything you've built and many players are sympathetic to misfortune. I know I've personally given out iron armor and diamond picks to players on our server who met unfortunate ends. Again, it's not like these materials are particularly hard to obtain.

Minecraft has one of the overall nicest communities on the internet. (Maybe TF2 is better? shrug Irrelevant.) The level of cooperation and international comradery fostered by Minecraft is just astounding. You have not experienced kindness until you have played on a Minecraft server that has a sense of community. Minecraft is a PvE game with some PvP elements that by and large are outright banned on most servers. Anyone who says killing players is the easiest or most common way to obtain resources is sorely mistaken. As if one inventory full of stone brick could actually build something. Hah.

But, y'know. I'm just an American. This is just, like, my opinion, man.

[–]pesmakas 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

You think this is ridiculous, right? Now, try to imagine that they rule the country in this way.

[–]BrujahRage 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is /r/nottheonion leaking again?

[–]unicornsex 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You have got to be fucking kidding me. If Minecraft is the new epitome of violence, I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

[–]InvictusProsper 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

"Some children may confuse the real world with the game world after playing Minecraft"

This is my favorite line.

Because I periodically forget that I don't need to go looking for diamonds cause I'm actually just walking down a street. I always look at a pig that's so often in my vicinity and just chop the fuck out of it with my diamond sword. My house made entirely out of wool, dirt and blocks of iron, quite frequently gets blown up by creepers, luckily I have Gieco.

[–]RageTiger 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

puts game in peaceful mode . . . wow this game is so violent. It's so violet that the undead mobs are already dead and gone. /s

[–]ercsredditaccount 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't think that there is a popular game with less violence than Minecraft except for Tetris.

[–]Zombiecidialfreak 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I find it funny they think a game with 16 bit textures and models composed entirely of blocks is violent, yet there are plenty of games with hyper-realistic graphics that are solely about shooting your fellow man in the face with high powered automatic weaponry.

And this just kills me:

Some children may confuse the real world with the game world after playing Minecraft

Yes, because a child will certainly confuse this with this.

[–]KingBebee 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Some children may confuse the real world with the game world after playing Minecraft, leading them to believe that torturing animals would not give them pain, added the report, which was based on the game experience of a nine-year-old child.

Uh, the animals run away from you and cry out. Too many hits and they die. If a nine-year-old can't extrapolate that much when comparing a game to real life, or if his/her parents and teachers can't explain the difference, it is not the fault of the game.

You may just simply have a nine year old on your hands.

[–]xTurK 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

As a Turkish person, while I'm ashamed to see my country's Family Ministry want to ban Minecraft because of stupid reasons, it's not a reason to insult Turkey as a whole or to say that they want to ban it because they're muslims. There are crazy higher ups in every country, especially in the US (cough Congress cough), but not in every country, that would do this kind of thing.

Some of the comments here are disgusting.

[–]TheRedDragonXp 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Idiots

[–]Watermelob 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Your comment sums up 90% of other comments on this page.

[–]Muriako 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

[–]rameytyler38 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Am I the only one around here that watches Pen and Tellers Bull Shit?

[–]Jashin23 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We may rant all we want, the Turkish government isn't exactly known for consulting Reddit before pushing out their laws. If they want to censor the game, they will. And sadly I think this is just another example of the terrible turn this country is taking now.

[–]reedmanisback 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If parents actually knew and cared what their kids were doing, we wouldn't have these issues

[–]scarabcoder 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I hate it when people say the game is violent. Turn off mobs, maybe??? And if killing animals is too much, what about real life?

[–]The_Sheepranger 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I live in Turkey and nearly all the local channels talked about it . They say that you start in a tower and get your wife and car . After that you can get points if you kill your wife and steal other people's car . I can't help but pitty myself to be born in this country . But they don't know how to ban things , I use torrent , watch free TV shows from internet and get into banned websites .

[–]GuitarCFD 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

  1. I'm a parent and my kids play WAY too much minecraft.

  2. I'm a parent and I play way too much minecraft.

  3. I'm an American and I have no idea how many of you aren't fortunate enough to live in a country that holds similar freedoms. If you do, then I think its easy for us to take for granted the freedoms we have. We have those freedoms because the people that came before us fought for them. Time for the people of Turkey to stand up and take it back.

[–]The_DestroyerKSP 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Now, imagine if they get to "Terraria..." head-cutting! 5 pxiels of blood! Bosses! Death! SO VIOLENT

[–]KnightDuty 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm surprised. There's ONE logical argument against minecraft:

Survival anarchy servers encourage stealling, murder, and looting. If this isn't mentioned in their argument,

If they're basing judgement on the game off of "violence" alone that's stupid.

[–]Goliath_Gamer 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

This is truly laughable. I have zero respect for anyone who tries to ban/censor games.

[–]Jfields99 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Guys, is this real life? I can't tell :(

[–]jfb1337 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What? Millions of games are WAY more violent than minecraft.

[–]phil035 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What the heck is with that format....

[–]AQ90 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck you Turkey, ban GTA or some other shit, but minecraft?! Just fuck you, plain out.....fuck you.

Also, and I hope turkey people read this, WE WILL ALL FIND AN F-ING WAY TO PLAY MINECRAFT WEATHER YOU N00BS LIKE IT OF NOT. No one can prohibit minecraft, thats like saying looking at woman and thinking about their personality and life is bad.

[–]Hawkfrostofriverclan 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Turkey is officially on my list of countries never to visit.

[–]werwew19 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

All the fucking idiots pointing at other games to ban instead of Minecraft.. lol. If any kid is brutally attacking animals then it isn't the video game...

[–]YAOMTC 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Minecraft, which was sold to Microsoft for $2.5 billion, also caused debate in the U.S. for containing elements of violence.

What? When?