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[–]I_See_White_and_Gold -162 ポイント-161 ポイント-160 ポイント 8 日 前* (46子コメント)
so relevant especially in america.
EDIT: WOW SUCH HATE. they hate US cus they aint us
[–]AppleSauceApplause 94 ポイント95 ポイント96 ポイント 8 日 前 (2子コメント)
Such edge
[–]Matterplay 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 8 日 前 (1子コメント)
To be fair, the actual comic is very "2edgy4me"
[–]fondlemeLeroy 12 ポイント13 ポイント14 ポイント 7 日 前* (0子コメント)
How so? It's just making a simple point about perception. This "2edgy" meme is annoying.
[–]Blue_Spider 18 ポイント19 ポイント20 ポイント 8 日 前 (0子コメント)
did you really make another account just to use a nickname relevant to that retarded meme
[–]wartodas 22 ポイント23 ポイント24 ポイント 8 日 前 (0子コメント)
I think you mean the barbaric enemies of America.
[+]kyzfrintin スコアが基準値未満のコメント-14 ポイント-13 ポイント-12 ポイント 8 日 前 (35子コメント)
Why are Americans so competitive about everything, even over who is the most backward?
[–]silencesc 67 ポイント68 ポイント69 ポイント 8 日 前 (34子コメント)
Why do people generalize a country the size and population of Europe as one monolithic entity? If I told a German that they're all bad with money because Greece is that would be nuts
[–]Dentarthurdent42 5 ポイント6 ポイント7 ポイント 8 日 前* (0子コメント)
*because the Greek government is
Edit: formatting
[–]Vathoska 5 ポイント6 ポイント7 ポイント 8 日 前 (11子コメント)
size and population of Europe
Pop of Europe
Pop of USA
[–]magicwar1 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 8 日 前 (10子コメント)
It's the same order of magnitude, close enough.
[–]Vathoska -4 ポイント-3 ポイント-2 ポイント 8 日 前 (9子コメント)
... Half?
[–]magicwar1 5 ポイント6 ポイント7 ポイント 8 日 前 (8子コメント)
Yeah, that's close enough for this comparison. Europe being viewed as a monolithic entity is silly, which is why it's split up into ~50 countries. The US, which is in the same order of magnitude, should be split to roughly the same number of sections. If Europe were only split in half, then the fact that the US is half its population would be a large enough difference for this comparison not to work.
[–]Vathoska -2 ポイント-1 ポイント0 ポイント 7 日 前 (7子コメント)
[There are 28 countries in the EU, not 50]. The continent "Europe" has about 50, though. The US is one country. Each European nation is hugely diverse and different culturally from every other. Even if you decide to treat each state as a different country (why?) that doesn't make them more different.
Sure, treating the US as one big convenient stereotype is stupid. But it's not comparable to Europe in any way. I never understand this argument. I mean, the US uses only one language, for starters; few European nations share a language.
[–]magicwar1 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 7 日 前* (5子コメント)
Seriously? Come visit Alabama and Washington. Culturally, they're as different as any two countries. I've been to Scotland and France, it's a comparable level of difference, if you look past the language barrier.
Language is an interesting subject in the US, as we only have English as the de facto national language, not de jure. Some of our states actually do all their legal work in joint English and Spanish, such as New Mexico and Texas, when it's behaving.
Also, stay consistent buddy. The EU is not twice as populous as the US, it only has around 500 mil, which while more, is less than what you linked to, which was Europe the continent.
[–]Vathoska -2 ポイント-1 ポイント0 ポイント 7 日 前 (4子コメント)
comparable level of difference
........................................................................ ok
I think to understand the differences you need a lot more cultural and historical perspective. As a young country the USA lacks a strong national indentity compared to a lot of European nations. Thus, when they visit another country they only look at the surface.
Here's one example of a massive factor in deciding cultural differences; historical rivalries and alliances.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conflicts_in_Europe
On the other hand, the US only fought inside itself once to my knowledge (the civil war?). In every single other war the US has fought together as one unit, always united. The "Us VS Them" mentality is "America VS for example Communism". There's nothing close to that level of cultural unity between european nations, because they're definitely different countries.
[–]themysteriousdoctorx 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 7 日 前 (0子コメント)
[There are 28 countries in the EU, not 50]. The continent "Europe" has about 50, though.
Pretty sure the linked google search was referring to the continent, not EU. here's the population for just the EU. Still larger than the US, but his statement was accurate.
[+]kyzfrintin スコアが基準値未満のコメント-25 ポイント-24 ポイント-23 ポイント 8 日 前 (20子コメント)
Because it is a single country, rather than a load of diverse, separate countries only joined in any way by landmass.
If I told a German that they're all bad with money because Greece is that would be nuts
Yes, because they're different countries. Comparing New York to California may be a little off-base because state laws vary, but federal laws don't. You're still one country.
[–]silencesc 37 ポイント38 ポイント39 ポイント 8 日 前 (10子コメント)
Lol. You have no idea how a federal system works.
[+]kyzfrintin スコアが基準値未満のコメント-26 ポイント-25 ポイント-24 ポイント 8 日 前 (9子コメント)
So you're saying the US is actually 50 different countries? Absurd.
[–]Jpech58 16 ポイント17 ポイント18 ポイント 8 日 前* (4子コメント)
Actually, kind of, yes.
United States. States are essentially their own countries (A LOT more than laws vary from state to state) that are governed by.. you guessed it, the UNITED STATES government.
You would be amazed how much culture varies from east coast to west coast, from Minnesota to Alabama. That's something really no foreigner could understand until they visit and see for themselves.
[–]Danyboii 13 ポイント14 ポイント15 ポイント 8 日 前 (3子コメント)
Na man were fat and stupid coast to coast. I love how everyone hates Americans generalizing other races and cultures when Europeans are the worst about it.
[–]Ninothehuman 7 ポイント8 ポイント9 ポイント 8 日 前 (0子コメント)
No irony in that statement at all.
[–]Cuboner 5 ポイント6 ポイント7 ポイント 8 日 前 (1子コメント)
I also hate how every European is a smelly, funny talking, stupid hat having generalization maker.
[–]Danyboii -2 ポイント-1 ポイント0 ポイント 8 日 前 (0子コメント)
Hey man their hats are dope. But I feel the fedora is way better.
[–]orthag 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 8 日 前 (2子コメント)
Not at all absurd, it's really very similar the European Union. The EU is more laissez faire, for now, but the system is similar, multiple states joined by trade agreements, immigration agreements, and a common currency.
[–]kyzfrintin -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 7 日 前 (1子コメント)
The EU isn't a country.
[–]orthag 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 7 日 前 (0子コメント)
That's why it's only similar.
[–]psykulor 18 ポイント19 ポイント20 ポイント 8 日 前 (5子コメント)
But our laws hardly define us. A blanket statement about American culture or (as in this case) viewpoints is bound to be reductionist and insulting because these things aren't dictated by government.
[+]kyzfrintin スコアが基準値未満のコメント-11 ポイント-10 ポイント-9 ポイント 8 日 前 (4子コメント)
I'm not saying laws define the country, but this thread is a discussion about law, so naturally my statement is about law. If you're arguing that each state has its own culture, then sure, but that's the same of any country. I live in a small town a few miles north of Nottingham - things in Notts are totally different to how they are in my town, and that's just a few miles.
[–]emotionlotion 7 ポイント8 ポイント9 ポイント 8 日 前 (0子コメント)
Why are Americans so competitive about everything This thread is a discussion about law
Why are Americans so competitive about everything
This thread is a discussion about law
Seems like you were talking about culture.
[–]psykulor 12 ポイント13 ポイント14 ポイント 8 日 前 (1子コメント)
The comic has nothing to do with law! It's about collective self-perception. Your original question was "why are Americans so competitive?" There is no American law bout how competitive we are, so competition isn't dictated by our Americanness.
[–]kyzfrintin -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 8 日 前 (0子コメント)
Shit, I think I forgot what thread I was in.
For some reason I thought I was in this thread.
[–]DoctorSteve 5 ポイント6 ポイント7 ポイント 8 日 前 (0子コメント)
You're the kid in class who always thinks he's right because people are so tired of arguing stupid points with you.
[–]joeprunz420 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 8 日 前 (0子コメント)
Lol well you clearly don't understand how the United States Government works...
State rights, bitch.
[–]jonaheim88 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 8 日 前 (0子コメント)
Yeah but the landmass is so very different. The distance between two countries in Europe is like two states here.
[–]DeRaptir -2 ポイント-1 ポイント0 ポイント 8 日 前 (0子コメント)
It is actually 50 little countries.
[–]reactantt -2 ポイント-1 ポイント0 ポイント 8 日 前 (0子コメント)
I have no idea why you were downvoted for a honest statement about American media and populous.
[–]silencesc -2 ポイント-1 ポイント0 ポイント 8 日 前 (0子コメント)
Ah right, the Barbarous Wastes.
[–]YourBoySilver -4 ポイント-3 ポイント-2 ポイント 8 日 前 (0子コメント)
DAE think Americans are stupid?! XD
[+]Ohbeejuan スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント-5 ポイント 8 日 前 (0子コメント)
Fuck you it was black and blue!
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