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[–]J-UnleashedI'll take my oppression points now. 55 ポイント56 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Posts like this make me want to actually check out Tumblr.

EDIT: also, those are fun names.

[–]KingofBarrelsNik-Kin you so fine 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (6子コメント)

You really should. Don't hold the whole website responsible for the vitriolic minority. It really is a good place.

[–]Bamres 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (4子コメント)

There are a lot of people who do post comments generalizing the whole site and the name of the sub doesn't help, but sanity sunday shows us there is hope

[–]MarcelToingJamai-kin 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Former Tumblr user here and I agree. Tumblr is sometimes made out to be a shithole with crazy feminists and otherkin (sort of like how some Tumblr users see Reddit as a gathering ground for loser neckbeards, like I once did) but the site actually had some really funny and artistic content on it. Plus, most of the blogs I followed were against SJWs and their attitudes.

Still wouldn't go back to Tumblr though.

[–]Zolome1977Trans trust fund baby 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Tumblr is good for free porn still!

[–]gulmari 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Do you not know about the rest of the internet? It's not hard to find free porn.

[–]CopyriteInctoiletkin shitlords trigger me 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, but for some reason tumblr porn just has this certain... quality to it you know?

[–]cfisher2833 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

My limited experience with Tumblr consists of the craziness I read on this subreddit and porn....yeah. I do like Sanity Sundays though!

[–]FlutterwanderMy pronouns are actual words that exist 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's worth it for some great fan communities and artwork. I don't use my account for anything but following fanart and a few artists I like, but It's pretty neat for fandom things. I just avoid the activist side entirely.

[–]pastinaakShould I dye my hair pink and care what y'all think? 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Damn, they missed the chance to name the first one probesity.

[–]Domin129plHeavyMetalKin[S] 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Lets be clear - I didn't post this here because I think its okay to bully people because they are fat - I don't. However, people are thinking now that you can be healthy at any weight - you can't. Too fat/too thin isn't healthy and can cause a lot of problems, and tumblerinas are glorifying being fat. Instead of shaming fat people, I think we should try and help them, because being fat is unhealthy - the majority of the people in the so called fat acceptance movement aren't doing that; they are promoting unhealthiness.

[–]SantasElfBitchPronouns: Elfself/Elf-on-a-self 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Weight isn't always synonymous with the health of a person. I'm relatively thin and people often think I'm anorexic or something but I'm not. It's just in my genes to have an ectomorphic body type. Just like there are people who are predisposed to be endomorphic. Now, there is a big difference between being naturally chubby and being morbidly obese but I still don't think it's anyone's business to comment on someone else weight unless it's their doctor because chances are, you're not the first person to let them know that they're fat. I'm sure they're very well aware of it every time they look in the mirror.

If someone wants to lose weight, they should be allowed all the resources and encouragement to do so. Which is why I take issues with those people of the fat acceptance movement who say that diet books and motivational posters encouraging people to exercise are "fat shaming" and act like people who lost a ton of weight are traitors to fat people or something.

I won't deny there's an unfair judgement on people who are heavier and fat people are more likely to be pointed and laughed at than someone who's skinny. And many times, people try to back up the scrutiny with "Well, I'm just concerned for their health". I dunno about anyone else, but bullying is a pretty fucked up way of showing concern for a person. (Just to clarify, I'm not suggesting that's what you're doing)

Bottom line is, whether or not someone wants to lose the weight or is content with how they look is no one's business but their own. Don't concern yourself with other people's health. You don't know their medical history. You're not their doctor.

[–]ArmorendThe ultimate in Kin-Technology. 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You've hit all the nails on the head, especially in the first paragraph.

People who are fat (Like drug-users or those with other bad habits) know the health issues associated with it. The last thing they need is someone to further chip away at their self-esteem and make them more likely to give up.

There are those assholes in society who don't give a fuck about losing weight and being a nuisance. Some of the Fat Acceptance people are that, and some just think they aren't one. Those people are the problematic ones, but it's like anything else: You can't generalize a whole group of people just because the ass-fucks among them aren't good people.

That's part of the reason I thought we disliked this side of Tumblr: They make negative generalizations about whole groups of people and dismiss the idea that any of them could be "righteous". Don't be like them. Treat people with respect and dignity.

[–]CaptainXorrogeneral tar-kin 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

[–]Deeblite 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well, you CAN be healthy at just about any weight, if your height matches. Of course most of the people in question would have to be 9'10" to be healthy.

[–]WdnSpoon -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not really - the very tall are prone to all kinds of health difficulties. While there's often a small positive-correlation between height and lifespan, that can mostly be attributed to the very strong correlation between height and childhood nutrition. ie it's true that on average someone who's 180cm might live a bit longer than someone who's 175cm, but at the extremes you won't find 240cm people living longer than 180cm people. Many of the extra stresses of increased weight apply whether that weight is because you're tall or because you're fat.

When you control for the entire group being generally healthy (eg they're all athletes), taller height correlates with a shorter lifespan.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1071721/

[–]Storthos 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly. A lot of people on reddit take another person being fat as a personal insult and genuinely hate them. That's absurd. At the same time, we shouldn't be pretending it's healthy.

[–]WdnSpoon 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's also the constant application of arguments which make sense for the aggregate being applied to the individual, and vice versa. e.g. you should never, ever pass judgement on one individual based purely on their weight -- you don't know that person, and they may have completely sympathetic personal reasons for being morbidly obese. It's not, however, bigoted to judge society in aggregate when a population becomes extremely obese over time. The fat acceptance movement is completely misdirected, as they're focused almost entirely on combating the argument made in aggregate, which is absurd. No, it's not generally healthy/beautiful/progressive to think that entire populations growing increasingly obese is acceptable.

[–]flameoguyFedora-Kin 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Just curvy, I swear!

[–]TheFriffinI'm a flightkin! 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

b but imma big boned!

[–]OhMrBigshotNeckbeard-kin 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You must have a giant bone in yo ass then

[–]AnderceusJer-kin [off] 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[–]Freelance_JIDF_ShillCunt Kin 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

What is the "fat acceptance movement"?

I wholeheartedly believe that we shouldn't ridicule fat people; but that's because I believe that we shouldn't dictate people how to live their lives unless we have to, not because I think that fat people are healthy.

[–]Appietjuh 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

In the Netherlands we pay for the fatties as well, which annoys me greatly. Every euro we can reduce spending on people who don't want to do something about their own problems, whatever the cause, is a win. If you have cancer or something else, I will gladly pay through the healthcare system, but I will not accept it if there are people who are obese without them giving a shit, not wanting to face their problems and making society pay for them.

[–]Freelance_JIDF_ShillCunt Kin 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

That is one of the many disadvantages of involving the government, and by extension, society as a whole in your life through things like nationalized healthcare.

You have the right to tell them how to live, since you're experiencing the consequences of their lifestyle, but on the other hand, they should have the right to live their life as they see fit.

[–]Appietjuh 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, you have a point. They have the right to follow their lives at their own will, which should be possible. However, I feel like it's unfair for people who actually care. People with consistent bad health problems should on average pay more so the people who actually give a shit can live without worrying about them. This probably won't be possible because of all kinds of technical stuff, but it just doesn't seem fair to me.

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[–]Shadow_Of_InvisibleI took the Big Red Pill - I am the alpha RadFem! 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have a wife and kids, for crying out loud. What am I doing with my life???

You are doing a great job and you are needed here. Tell your family that they can be proud of you.

[–]grumpygrumpingtonMISANDr- I MEAN FEMINISM QUIT USING YOUR SEXIST MAN WORDS 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't hate fat people if they're trying, and I think that we shouldn't ridicule them- but that south park episode about obesity being treated as a disablility made very good points. You shouldn't hate the obese; but there's no doubt they're unhealty. Except if they're like 9'12 or something.

[–]SubtleMockeryTranshuman Cybersexual 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I had a realization yesterday.

HAES/fat acceptance/fat beauty ideals are akin to smoking ads that emphasize how cool and attractive it makes you despite slowly killing you. "People should love who I am *hack hack*! I'm *ughcough hack* beautiful! I can't help it, my addictive nature is genetic! Just because I smell like an ashtray doesn't mean you get to *eech, hack* belittle me!"

And I say this as an ex smoker who fucking loved smoking.

[–]mistergookey 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This may be controversial but I like the fat acceptance movement... to a degree.

People that claim being obese is just as healthy as being average weight are wrong, that much is a given. It's ridiculous to even try to argue that you can be 300lbs and at optimum health. These people are lying to themselves and intentionally spreading information that will lead to massive health problems in others.

But I don't think there's anything wrong with an adult taking control over their life and looking the way they want to. As long as these people accept that weight and body type affect your health, and don't try to spread misinformation that you can be at peak fitness while being hugely overweight or hugely underweight.
They should not be subjected to bullying and insults just because of their size. Accept that your weight affects how healthy you are but don't accept the views of people in the world that think you're unattractive and disgusting because you're a different size to the norm.

Now I'm definitely not saying that everyone that doesn't find overweight people attractive are wrong. We all have our preferences and there's nothing wrong with that. What is wrong is bullying based on someone's weight under the guise of being concerned for their health.

[–]trianglelmao 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think it would be better if we stopped posting Sanity Sunday posts that only have 37 notes.

Like, hypothethically, I could write down my opinion, post it on tumblr, screenshot it, and post it here. But that's not very compelling, is it?

In my opinion, Sanity Sunday should be limited to posts that have gotten at least 1,000 notes because that signals that it's resonated within Tumblr, not just amongst a handful of antifeminist blogs.

[–]Domin129plHeavyMetalKin[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

In that case you would have to do it to all the TiA posts, as a lot have little amount of notes as well.

[–]SemiorganicWOMEN ARE STUPID AND I DON'T RESPECT THEM. -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Cmon people this looks like it should belong on tumblrcirclejerk or something. It's totally illogical.

[–]sneakygingertroll -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You see, it's Okay to be overweight/a bit thick so long as it isn't a health concern. If you're a bit thick and it's not a medical concern, go for it, be yourself. If you are OBESE and it is a medical concern, then you must lose weight.

[–]Silvedl -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"I'm probese!"