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Female juror "decided from the beginning" not to punish female who inflicted multiple stab wounds, slit throat, shot him in the head, because "It would be like revenge". Why do we accept ignorance in society? (gma.yahoo.com)

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[–]shittiestoflords1 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (28子コメント)

This is a fucking affront to justice.

[–]elborracho420 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (18子コメント)

The lady was found guilty, she just won't be put to death. It will be life without parole or life with the possibility of parole after 25 years.

[–]shittiestoflords1 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (17子コメント)

Still a pussypass.

The juror decided even before discussion that just cause she is female, she wont get the death penalty.

[–]elborracho420 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (16子コメント)

It doesn't say that she decided from the beginning, it says that one of the male jurors believed she had decided from the beginning.

But if it's a pussy pass, why did she vote guilty? She would have had to have entered a guilty vote, otherwise it would have been a mistrial. Maybe she's just against the death penalty.

Not trying to give anyone a pussy pass here myself, but if I'm gonna get my jimmies rustled, I want it to be a clear and indisputable pussy pass.

[–]RedMistKnight 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

she didn't vote guilty. The first Jury voted guilty, but couldn't decide on a punishment. So they were let go and a new jury selected. Months after, a fucking lifetime movie had been made of it by then.

[–]elborracho420 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

You're correct, another commenter had pointed it out to me. It still stands though--she didn't vote to get her off the hook, or vote not guilty, she voted against the death penalty. Are you serious about the lifetime movie though? Cause that sounds like some bullshit that would actually happen.

[–]RedMistKnight 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2787002/ Yes, yes it fucking is real.

That being said voting against the death penalty is't the issue, but if the other jurors are to be believed then she obviously had some sort of a agenda, be that pro Arias (somebody said she had seen "parts" of the movie) Anti-Death penalty, or anti-prosecutors (some people from other threads are claiming her Ex-husband was tried by the same prosecutor) So she would have HAD to lie through her teeth under oath to get on that jury, since these are the very things they are very specific about asking you. If her peers are to be believed of course.

[–]elborracho420 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I agree, I just question whether this belongs on /r/pussypass

[–]RedMistKnight 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think it's worth noting for sure. This is a woman who burtally murdered a man and tried to slander his name with common anti-male stereotypes (domestic violence, pedophilia, and being a woman-hating rapist) to get away with provable Pre-meditated first degree murder. and she avoided the max punishment, she has a chance of getting sentenced to 25 with possible parole or 25 without. It's in the judges hands, if she get a chance at parole then this is CERTAINLY a /r/pussypass and that was only possible because a single woman out a jury of mostly women refused to vote for the death penalty. it's closes enough now to probably count already regardless of her reason, but if she gets the chance at parole it certainly is.

[–]shittiestoflords1 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (6子コメント)

She was treated lighter because she is a woman. That is the definition of pussypass

[–]SteinerRecliner 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

How do we know she just didn't oppose the death penalty in general?

[–]RedMistKnight 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We don't but they usually screen out people who are for or against certain punishments. Hell I got disqualified when they asked me if I would take "expert" testimony more seriously than a normal persons testimony and I said "yes"

[–]oneinchterror 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

we don't. I don't think this belongs here

[–]elborracho420 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

How do you figure? Murderers more often get life in prison instead of the death penalty.

[–]Northwest_Lovin 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No she wasn't. Trying to make something out of nothing due to race or gender differences is the definition of a bigot though. Have fun with that.

[–]wicknest -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

but women are sooo oppressed

[–]Insula92 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

But if it's a pussy pass, why did she vote guilty?

She didn't. It was a mistrial of the sentencing phase only (because the original jury had also deadlocked on the death penalty question).

[–]elborracho420 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (2子コメント)

The jury votes guilty or not guilty, and then has a separate vote for sentencing.

[–]Insula92 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

And in this case the original jury found her guilty then deadlocked on death penalty. Because guilty verdict from the original jury was final only the sentencing phase was retried with THIS NEW JURY which then deadlocked AGAIN. Thus this juror did not participate in any guilt phase. It's explained in the video which you apparently didn't watch.

[–]elborracho420 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm using alien blue, I didn't see a video, just an article. Will have to watch it tomorrow at work. I guess until then my jimmies will remain neutral.

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[–]mr-strange 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (6子コメント)

The death sentence is just pure barbarism. Totally incompatible with justice.

[–]SinfulSound 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

No an eye for an eye is true justice. But civilised society recognises that rehabilitation is a better choice. It's not really fair to the murdered person but killing in the name of dead people is pretty stupid IMO.

[–]EvrythingISayIsRight 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

How is 25 to life rehabilitation? Shes going to rot away in a taxpayer funded cell.

[–]KageStar 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

She can learn to make liscense plates for society in time.

[–]SinfulSound 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

She killed a person. You think some kind words and a slap on the wrist would change her. I agree that the US prison system needs reform but at the same time murderer's can't be allowed to be a part of society unless we know they won't commit another crime.

[–]EvrythingISayIsRight 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You suggested that rehabilitation is a better alternative to the death penalty, so I'm asking how is 25 to life rehabilitation? Personally I think the death penalty is acceptable for cold blooded murder and 25 to life is just a waste of everyones money.

[–]SinfulSound 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

your probably not gonna do anything that will put you back in prison after being stuck there 25 years, including murder. That's the idea anyway. I don't think someone in jail for murder is a waste of taxpayer money because you obviously can't have them walking around and if people aren't prepared to execute a person then prison is the only option.

[–]PrimaxAUS -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's jury nullification, the ugly side of it.