Diablo® III

03/05/2015 12:16 AMPosted by Gardemarin

U test it, he test it? No!

yes, we did test it, but as explained above in my post, the snapshotting fooled us into believing the templar does not benefit.

So, now that the waters are clear, you guys can make out.

03/05/2015 12:34 AMPosted by page

yes, we did test it, but as explained above in my post, the snapshotting fooled us into believing the templar does not benefit.

..someone who did not understand something..

03/04/2015 05:23 PMPosted by Baconinja

Elite dmg and phys bonus don't work on bk templar

The guy say about Templar and this ring. He wrong. He don't test it anyway!

I test it on Ghom only for see how much it ticks. Not snapshot. Kormack kill the Ghom only through these BK ring. In the GRifts - ticks raise up when raise up grift level (and HP of mobs).
That's all I wanted to say.

03/05/2015 12:47 AMPosted by Gardemarin

03/05/2015 12:34 AMPosted by page

yes, we did test it, but as explained above in my post, the snapshotting fooled us into believing the templar does not benefit.

..someone who did not understand something..

03/04/2015 05:23 PMPosted by Baconinja

Elite dmg and phys bonus don't work on bk templar

The guy say about Templar and this ring. He wrong. He don't test it anyway!

I test it on Ghom only for see how much it ticks. Not snapshot. Kormack kill the Ghom only through these BK ring. In the GRifts - ticks raise up when raise up grift level (and HP of mobs).
That's all I wanted to say.

Ummm we all know BK ring works on followers. We are talking about Elite and Phys bonus on templar applying to BK ring. Which works but due to snapshotting, initial tests did not show it.

And yeah I tested it after seeing your comment.

http://youtu.be/F7eHDE2Jego

I guess we have to thank you for getting pagexploit to test... even though you really weren't referring to elite and phys bonus :|

http://imgur.com/YxClDrH

35m ticks via templar now :p

Is that without PE?

yes without pe or toxin ^^

That's twice of what I'm currently getting :( Obviously I need a better SK and a phys lidless, other than that, what else am I missing?

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Baconinja-1209/hero/57455976

replace all CDR with templar with dmg?

No lidless :p

Had none around, I just slapped base dmg and str + Ruby in socket on every slot, Ancient SK and 20phys amy + phys soj

(no unity)

Damn, need that phys lid now! :p

Additionally, that last test to see what the templar can do was on ptr.

03/05/2015 01:39 AMPosted by page

No lidless :p

Had none around, I just slapped base dmg and str + Ruby in socket on every slot, Ancient SK and 20phys amy + phys soj

(no unity)

Damn, need that phys lid now! :p

Additionally, that last test to see what the templar can do was on ptr.

Tsk.. You're already on 2.2 mindset. I still need unity dude.

03/05/2015 01:48 AMPosted by Baconinja

Tsk.. You're already on 2.2 mindset. I still need unity dude.

Oh I definitely will try and do some funky no unity stuff in 2.1.2 :D

But yeah, I am :)

I use Lidless Wall with physical bonus on my templars. (or Freeze of Deflection for characters that need more crowd control)

03/04/2015 01:43 PMPosted by page

And I have to strongly disagree with associating exploits with my name ^^

What, even when we exploit you?

Since we die so much it may just be better to leave snapshot set on Templar

03/05/2015 04:53 AMPosted by Samir

Since we die so much it may just be better to leave snapshot set on Templar

the idea was not to snapshot the templar to use an exploit, but that we have to snapshot the templar before we see the effect take place.

Currently we all avoided phys/elite on templar and just pushed raw dmg for BK, while we should have just geared him properly with phys/elite.

Those 35m ticks I showed are not "exploited". They are the result of the actual gear the Templar is wearing on ptr.

And as soon as I get a phys lid, those ticks will be even better :)

03/05/2015 02:33 AMPosted by CC123

What, even when we exploit you?

in those cases I can make an exception :p

I am pretty sure this works on 2.1.2 also, on live.

This AM ran Ancient SK vs Ancient TF and ticks were 10m higher.

So yeah, 2.2 looks like : BK Ring, Physical SOJ with CHC or STR, Ancient SK, Physical Lidless and Physical Amulet. GG... 30-40m ticks.

As for the BK ring self snapshot I don't see it busting the leaderboards - like I said, we die a lot. It might be good to get to the RG if exploited during the rift, but the RG is still the RG (1-shotting...)

03/05/2015 07:42 AMPosted by Samir

As for the BK ring self snapshot I don't see it busting the leaderboards - like I said, we die a lot. It might be good to get to the RG if exploited during the rift, but the RG is still the RG (1-shotting...)

yeah, the vid from quin did not have the fact rdy that resnapshotting occurs when you die, which makes this less game breaking.

while it is still possible to get a really good grift without dying and poison immune fishing for ghom, I thankfully do not see it breaking the game completely, but still potentially

It still needs fixing to be dynamic.

You can also use ancient Doombringer, which rolls 5 primary affixes including physical bonus.

Good catch guys, I dropped a GG ancient Sunkeeper and got spare Phys SoJ ready for 2.2. Does BK follow the same mechanics as DOT, using Broken Promises VS SoJ may need to be checked out on Templar.

Edit: never mind, it's a snapshot so Broken promises is useless on Templar unless you time your death which is a pain in the a@#.

03/05/2015 07:50 AMPosted by page

03/05/2015 07:42 AMPosted by Samir

As for the BK ring self snapshot I don't see it busting the leaderboards - like I said, we die a lot. It might be good to get to the RG if exploited during the rift, but the RG is still the RG (1-shotting...)

yeah, the vid from quin did not have the fact rdy that resnapshotting occurs when you die, which makes this less game breaking.

while it is still possible to get a really good grift without dying and poison immune fishing for ghom, I thankfully do not see it breaking the game completely, but still potentially

It still needs fixing to be dynamic.

I get what you're saying....but seriously, is anyone NOT going to run F&R and instead use a BK?