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Mirrors in commentsIndia's Daughter Documentary - 59mins. (youtube.com)
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[–]daideepya -53 ポイント-52 ポイント-51 ポイント 10 時間 前 (65子コメント)
There is a conspiracy to showcase India as a rapist nation.
The truth is --
India has the lowest percentage of rape / divorce on this planet .
India has the happiest family life / home on this planet.
We do not want this Jewess leslee udwin to save India.
[–]therealcoon 19 ポイント20 ポイント21 ポイント 9 時間 前 (0子コメント)
|India has the happiest family life /home in this planet
Wow that's big, did it hurt while you were pulling that out of your ass?
[–]Kohsmos[S] 8 ポイント9 ポイント10 ポイント 10 時間 前* (21子コメント)
You may be right.
India may not be as dangerous as US, when crime rates along with population is considered.
But poverty and illiteracy, the main reasons for upsurge of crimes, should be tackled wisely and efficiently. Or all of us would be under real danger.
By all of us, I mean, males females and other gender.
Edit : Before watching the documentary, I was of the opinion that all it has to offer is a flash back.
But the reasons for crimes have been well analyzed and put forth in a non offensive manner.
[–]Korrakkar 5 ポイント6 ポイント7 ポイント 10 時間 前 (5子コメント)
But poverty and illiteracy, the main reasons for upsurge of crimes, should be tackled wisely and efficiently
Is it possible to have a real discussion about this statement in this sub for once? Because you have made an extremely insightful comment that most people do not realize.
In any society there are always going to be psychopaths who will break the laws. These threats have to be identified strategically and eliminated efficiently. In doing so the functioning of the rest of 99% of society shouldn't be disturbed.
Claiming it is a "cultural" problem and punishing every single male is just foolishness. That is how you end up with a dysfunctional society.
[–]Kohsmos[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 9 時間 前 (2子コメント)
I agree. Poverty and illiteracy breeds insecurity, dissatisfaction, anger, depression and a myriad of other psychological issues.
And the population here is so much that it makes counselling people and delivering opportunities an uphill task.
Accountable governance + educated, happy and healthy people = happy problem-free country.
After the news of the ban on the documentary broke out, the social media was filled with posts about how Indian men and Indian society will never change. Not a single one of them attempted to address the issues behind the crime rates in India.
If such blogs with lack of substance keep flooding the internet, then India will soon be void of men.
I have been so paranoid lately that I have a difficult time walking in public. I consciously try to avoid walking or standing anywhere near a woman. Thanks to the media and foolish articles, we men are seen as criminals waiting to pounce on women.
[–]badurkel/s 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 9 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Blaming it on poverty and illiteracy is an easy way out. It's easy blaming bihari labourers for the sexual violence, but realizing that prosperous haryana and punjab are where patriarchy is the most entrenched will need us to admit that our society as a whole has a problem. And as you just said, nobody wants to do that. Other than that, I assure you, poor and illiterate from Maharashtra are way way less rapey than the most educated and literates from haryana.
[–]Korrakkar 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 9 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Don't be. That's exactly what the propaganda aims to achieve. I am not saying it is easy but we gotta look out for each other and stay strong. You haven't committed any crime and there is zero reason for you to be ashamed of your ethnicity/identity. Fuck people who tell you otherwise.
[–]aguilezestOS 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 9 時間 前 (1子コメント)
It felt like there was a huge difference between the accused and people reacting and/or protesting etc.
The accused were, no doubt, from a poor background. But during the entire documentary, the rift between 2 types of societies was so bare and naked to watch. The thing that was so unsettling, was that the family members of the accused were almost defending them! Especially that mother in the pink/red sari. Did they actually live in denial?! The accused were almost pleased with their 'popularity'. What the actual fuck?
Jyoti Singh's parents... wow! I was in awe of how they were responding. Sure, a lot of time has gone by. But that hardly takes away a pain like this. They had definitely seen their daughter, and by the sound of it an extremely brave one, in a condition that could unsettle someone for life. But they spoke so well. I can't stop feeling utter respect for that.
And the lawyers, seriously? No matter how many reddit posts are made on it etc., it was fucked up to watch those two 'educated' men to speak like that. It was just intolerable.
It felt like we live in 2 parallel countries, where we live with all of our education, freedom, internet et al. And another one that was on display in an unhidden, unabashed manner.
[–]le_tharkitrolled_by_curiosity and mods 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 9 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Yes that was the scary part for me.
[–]DiscreteMathBihar ka lala -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 10 時間 前 (5子コメント)
India is not as dangerous as the US
Well meme'd, my friend!
[–]Kohsmos[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 9 時間 前 (4子コメント)
I do not understand that expression.
[–]DiscreteMathBihar ka lala -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 9 時間 前 (3子コメント)
It means you made up that statement with no backing in actual facts.
[–]Kohsmos[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 9 時間 前 (0子コメント)
I'm not responsible if you misunderstood my sentence and quote my sentence wrongly.
[–]Korrakkar 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 9 時間 前 (1子コメント)
Here suck on this
India is at 3.5 while US is at 4.7. Whats your excuse, murder rates are underreported in India as well now?
[–]DiscreteMathBihar ka lala 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 9 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Oh, wow, did not expect.
[–]CisternaChyli 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 8 時間 前 (1子コメント)
The US is a big country.....so I don't know how you can say its more dangerous than India...
[–]Kohsmos[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 6 時間 前 (0子コメント)
when crime rates along with population is considered.
The size of 'The US' has nothing to do with whatever I have said.
so I don't know how you can say its more dangerous than India.
I never said its more dangerous.
Try reading things without a bias. Maybe that will help you comprehend things better.
[–]agnt0007 -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 10 時間 前 (6子コメント)
But poverty and illiteracy, the main reasons of crimes, should be tackled wisely and efficiently. Or all of us would be under real danger.
Bingo, you just understood why Modi underscores development so much & why Gujarat is safest for women in India.
[–]DiscreteMathBihar ka lala 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 9 時間 前 (1子コメント)
All discussions lead to Modi
What is this magic
[–]agnt0007 -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 9 時間 前 (0子コメント)
All discussions lead to /u/DiscreteMath bringing up why everyone else is bringing up modi.
What is this magic.
[–]badurkel/s 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 9 時間 前 (1子コメント)
Gujarat and Maharashtra has been safe for women since forever. That's like thanking Modi for the coming of the sun every morning in Gujarat.
[–]agnt0007 -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 9 時間 前 (0子コメント)
since forever
interesting.
[–]that_70_show_fanI say goodday. 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 9 時間 前 (1子コメント)
Gujarat is safest for women in India.
Not safe for female fetuses though.
[–]agnt0007 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント0 ポイント 9 時間 前 (0子コメント)
i would ascribe that to a larger cultural mindset. the physical landscape has to be changed first.
[–]svmk1987 9 ポイント10 ポイント11 ポイント 10 時間 前 (3子コメント)
Reported cases doesn't mean total numbers. Low rate of divorce doesn't mean happy marriage. Also, source?
Lol. Ok.
[+]omibabaIndian rappist スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント-5 ポイント 9 時間 前 (2子コメント)
Reported cases doesn't mean total numbers.
More than half the reported cases turn out to be fake ones. This more than compensates for the unreported ones.
[–]i_am_not_samI like tacos 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 9 時間 前 (1子コメント)
Source.
[–]omibabaIndian rappist 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 9 時間 前 (0子コメント)
this is just for delhi: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/false-rape-cases-in-delhi-delhi-commission-of-women/1/409320.html
I can give you sources for other areas if required.
[–]that_70_show_fanI say goodday. 7 ポイント8 ポイント9 ポイント 10 時間 前 (8子コメント)
Source?
[–]wiresarereallybadCharacterless desi wannabe 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 10 時間 前 (7子コメント)
Very low divorce rates apparently translates to very happy family life.
[–]JacksFieryVengeance 5 ポイント6 ポイント7 ポイント 10 時間 前 (5子コメント)
I would say it translates to miserable family life. Too many couples that have too many problems trying to make it work doesn't always end up a happy story.
[–]wiresarereallybadCharacterless desi wannabe 6 ポイント7 ポイント8 ポイント 9 時間 前 (0子コメント)
It would. The stigma of divorce is still high enough that people keep going in bad marriages.
[–]spaceythrowaway 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 6 時間 前 (0子コメント)
My parents are a good example of that. I have zero doubt that if my parents had divorced, everyone from me, my brothers to my mom and dad would have been way, way more happy and sane.
[–]chantuaurbantu -5 ポイント-4 ポイント-3 ポイント 9 時間 前 (2子コメント)
but a divorce doesn't result in a happy story as well..
i think our indian older generation is not too demanding.. indian women (older gen) are definately satisfied with what they have.. hence, they're more happy.. i don't think i can say the same thing for newer generation though..
[–]JacksFieryVengeance 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 9 時間 前 (1子コメント)
Why wouldn't a divorce result in a happy story? Not all divorces in the West end sadly. If two people are unhappy with each other to the point that they cannot make it work, don't they deserve to find happiness elsewhere? I understand that if there is a child involved it makes the situation much more difficult but by no means impossible for the child to have a happy life. I will, however, concede that in India people do make more effort to keep the marriage going when it reaches the point that divorce is an option. It helps that marriage is viewed as the most sacred of all bonds in our society, as it should be, but definitely not unbreakable.
[+]chantuaurbantu スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6 ポイント-5 ポイント-4 ポイント 9 時間 前 (0子コメント)
yea i don't mean all.. but lot of them don't end well.. people who marry again are more likely to divorce again,e tc..
also, i don't intend to say divorce is a bad thing.. i'm just saying that our older gen females are actually generally happy with their marriage because they don't have too many expectations to begin with..
[–]sellerofdreams 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 4 時間 前 (0子コメント)
A culture that doesn't allow men and women to freely choose their partners is not a culture that will allow the break up of a marriage.
[–]DiscreteMathBihar ka lala 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 10 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Fucking kek
I am willing to bet you found yourself agreeing with the lawyers in the video too
[–]aaye_raju -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 10 時間 前 (10子コメント)
Embrace for the downvotes buddy
[–]omibabaIndian rappist -4 ポイント-3 ポイント-2 ポイント 9 時間 前 (9子コメント)
exactly my thought
[–]le_tharkitrolled_by_curiosity and mods 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 9 時間 前 (8子コメント)
India has the lowest percentage of divorce on this planet .
I guess its due to 4 log.
Rape may be its under reported, but that not the point. The bigger issue is what kind of arguments the lawyers and the rapists put. Just look at the audacity of the accused and the lawyer.
[–]omibabaIndian rappist 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 9 時間 前 (7子コメント)
kehna kya chah raha hai thurki ji? Are you sure you replied to the right comment?
[–]le_tharkitrolled_by_curiosity and mods 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 8 時間 前 (6子コメント)
Yes. OP said something, next guy something unrelated to the discussion or off tangent and you agreed with him.
[–]omibabaIndian rappist 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 8 時間 前 (5子コメント)
Saar, I replied to this comment:
"Embrace for the downvotes buddy".
This is what I agreed with.
[–]le_tharkitrolled_by_curiosity and mods 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 8 時間 前 (4子コメント)
Saar, but that is not the point of discussion naaaa
Welcum to circle jerk 101
[–]omibabaIndian rappist 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 8 時間 前 (3子コメント)
So?
[–]le_tharkitrolled_by_curiosity and mods 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 8 時間 前 (2子コメント)
Circle jerk master race /\
[–]enry_straker -2 ポイント-1 ポイント0 ポイント 9 時間 前 (0子コメント)
There seems to be a conspiracy to hide and protect the rapists by deflecting attention from the rapes.
The truth is ---
India has a low percentage of rape -- since people know that there is little chance of justice in india.
India has a low divorce rate -- since rapes within marriage is not treated as rape
India has the saddest family life -- where married women are typically treated as free slave labor in a patriarchical society.
And there are men who try to showcase india in a bad light since they don't like freedom of expression, and promote censorship and heavy handedness to keep the status quo goiing.
[–]omibabaIndian rappist -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 9 時間 前 (5子コメント)
India has the lowest percentage of rape / divorce on this planet
A large chunk of the reported rape cases are of the type "he did not marry me so it's rape". So the real figures are even lower. This also compensates for the unreported cases.
[–]badurkel/s 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 9 時間 前 (4子コメント)
It's pathetic how men's rights fucks will try to convince us that there are no problems for women at all and the rape rates are actually women making up false cases. In a country like india where there obviously is a rape problem. You're not white bro, you can never be trooo men's rights, those guys hate blacks and browns as much as women. Lol. Identity crisis scenes.
[–]omibabaIndian rappist -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 9 時間 前 (2子コメント)
men's rights fucks
Hello white knight feminazi fuck.
[–]badurkel/s 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 8 時間 前 (1子コメント)
Again, not white bro, not even sure if you can use those terms and not sound like a fool. Kinda like Nazi gypsies.
[–]omibabaIndian rappist -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 7 時間 前 (0子コメント)
+1000
[–]crow1729AK should give up as NC.YoYa and PB should be included in NEC. -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 8 時間 前 (0子コメント)
In a country like india where there obviously is a rape problem.
very obvious.because you backed the claim with facts.
[+]Korrakkar スコアが基準値未満のコメント-10 ポイント-9 ポイント-8 ポイント 10 時間 前 (9子コメント)
The West is literally dying out. It depends on immigration to maintain their growth rate and its economy. It is just a depressing tale of divorces and children raised in broken homes all around. I mean you have literally created a society where people have to be on drugs to maintain their sanity and refuse to procreate, that is as dysfunctional as it gets!
But they cannot swallow their ego and accept that so they chose to export their depravity all over the world. Sadly a lot of young people fall for it.
[–]JacksFieryVengeance 10 ポイント11 ポイント12 ポイント 9 時間 前 (3子コメント)
" I mean you have literally created a society where people have to be on drugs to maintain their sanity and refuse to procreate, that is as dysfunctional as it gets! "
This is so stupid.I'm sorry, I wouldn't normally start a comment like this but it is. You talk as though every single person in the west is a drug addict, because not one single person in India is a user. As far as your comment about procreation goes, it is not the aim of every Human Being to procreate as much as possible. Or procreate at all, for that matter. I would say that we in our country could use some people who procreate less, looking at our population.
[+]Korrakkar スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント 9 時間 前 (2子コメント)
You talk as though every single person in the west is a drug addict, because not one single person in India is a user
I wasn't talking about recreational drugs. I was talking about people who have to be on medication or otherwise would be tempted to shoot up school kids.
it is not the aim of every Human Being to procreate as much as possible
Strawman. I never said the goal is to procreate as much as possible. India had a problem with high population growth.( It is currently at 2.3 which is marginally above replacement levels of 2.1). At the same time you don't have to go to the other extremes as well. People are unwilling to bring life into the world since at some level they realize the live in a sick society.
[–]JacksFieryVengeance 8 ポイント9 ポイント10 ポイント 9 時間 前 (0子コメント)
I never said recreational drugs either. You're pretty damn ignorant if you think no one in India requires medication for mental health issues.
People in the west don't refuse to procreate because they "realize they live in a sick society", they refuse to have children for various, various reasons, from personal to professional. It is much better than having a child simply because society pressures you to, like in India.
[–]DiscreteMathBihar ka lala 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 9 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Really? I wish these rapists had been on the same drugs then, as school shootings are as bad as gangrapes. You imagine these drug-addled persons because you can't face that there are aspects to our country that are bad, so it is easier to cast the entire west as a shithole. Please grow up. And yeah, do NOT procreate.
[–]intofooty 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 9 時間 前 (0子コメント)
It is just a depressing tale of divorces and children raised in broken homes all around
First of stop selling divorce as a bad thing, recent research has shown that its usually better (for children) than parents constantly fighting sauce.
I mean you have literally created a society where people have to be on drugs to maintain their sanity and refuse to procreate, that is as dysfunctional as it gets!
Very broad and generic statement, there are drug users and mentally unstable people in India only they(mentally unstable) are locked up inside homes away from society and are ignored.
People are unwilling to bring life into the world since at some level they realize the live in a sick society.
Procreation is a choice and someone chosing not to procreate does not imply the above statement, there are many reasons for it.
[–]DiscreteMathBihar ka lala 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 10 時間 前 (3子コメント)
Source, please?
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[–]DiscreteMathBihar ka lala 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 9 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Can NOT argue.
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