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[–]AtheistGuy1$15K US UBI 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (12子コメント)

This post is irrelevant to the sub.

[–]go1dfish0% Tax ~3000? Calorie Daily CryptoUBI[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (11子コメント)

Do you think taxation is necessary for the UBI you propose?

If so; then this post is very relevant to this sub.

[–]AtheistGuy1$15K US UBI 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (10子コメント)

We're not here to listen to AnCaps ramble on about their BS. Take it to /r/AnarchoCapitalism , or /r/libertarian .

[–]go1dfish0% Tax ~3000? Calorie Daily CryptoUBI[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (9子コメント)

I get that you disagree with the assertions made in the post, but they are highly relevant to the discussion of UBI, and I'd argue much more directly relevant than this post was:

http://www.reddit.com/r/BasicIncome/comments/2xel1c/one_in_three_germans_say_capitalism_to_blame_for/

I'll stop rambling about the horrors of taxation and government when everyone else stops rallying for more government power or against capitalism in general.

[–]AtheistGuy1$15K US UBI 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (8子コメント)

I get that you disagree with the assertions made in the post, but they are highly relevant to the discussion of UBI,

It's not even that I disagree. It's that it's irrelevant to the sub's stated topic. You can say and post any stupid thing you want, but keep it in your pants, man. If you want to complain about how bad you think contributing to society sucks, take it to your other subs.

[–]go1dfish0% Tax ~3000? Calorie Daily CryptoUBI[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (7子コメント)

So you don't think taxation is necessary for UBI? If this subreddit can agree that taxation is unnecessary for and thus irrelevant to UBI I'll gladly stop talking about.

If you want to complain about how bad you think contributing to society sucks, take it to your other subs.

I contend that contributing to society and taxation are separate and distinct concepts.

I suggest a means of contributing to society without the need for the coercion of taxation.

I'm not saying that taxation does not sometimes contribute to society, only that it doesn't always; and that there are other ways to contribute to society beyond taxation.

Do you disagree? Or is UBI only a good idea if it's carried out through force of arms?

[–]AtheistGuy1$15K US UBI 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (6子コメント)

So you don't think taxation is necessary for UBI? If this subreddit can agree that taxation is unnecessary for and thus irrelevant to UBI I'll gladly stop talking about.

This place isn't here to give a podium for every stupid idea out there.

[–]go1dfish0% Tax ~3000? Calorie Daily CryptoUBI[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

This is a non-partisan subreddit, and we don't support any specific policy, political party or ideology (other than Basic Income). Don't assume people share your political views, and don't exclude those with differing views.

I think UBI is a great and inevitable idea; I just disagree that taxation is the best way to achieve it.

Maybe you should try to look towards what we have in common rather than where we differ?

[–]Trollaatori 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

if taxation is theft, it axiomatically follows that property must also be theft.

[–]go1dfish0% Tax ~3000? Calorie Daily CryptoUBI[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're gonna have to explain that a bit more.

And even if we assume that this is true; certainly we can both agree that there still exist differences.

Traditional theft is objectively worse than taxation. You get nothing back, and no say or even the charade of one.

Even if you ascribe property to be similar to theft, I think property is more acceptable than taxation in the same way that taxation is more acceptable than traditional theft.

[–]AtheistGuy1$15K US UBI 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Maybe you should try to look towards what we have in common rather than where we differ?

I can do that as long as you keep your posts on-topic. Example: I think the Crypto BI thing is stupid too. Ever see me call you out for it? No. I may not like it, but I'll be fucked if it ain't relevant.

[–]go1dfish0% Tax ~3000? Calorie Daily CryptoUBI[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

UBI can be broken down into two haves.

The Demand side and the Supply side.

Everyone here agrees that there is Demand and necessity for a UBI.

We might differ about how much is appropriate, but even that is really more rooted in the other side of the equation.

The Supply. Where does the money come from?

Do you think that discussion of where the money comes from is irrelevant to /r/BasicIncome ?