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► WTF Is... - Social Justice Warriors ? (youtube.com)

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[–]n00dle37 [非表示スコア]  (35子コメント)

I hate the term 'social justice warrior'. It, just like 'hipster', has become so broadly used that it essentially has lost all meaning. It basically now means 'person I disagree with.' Whilst the people that this game makes fun of do exist, they really aren't as big a problem as some people make them out to be. Still, it's great that the game takes the piss out of both sides of the 'social justice' debate, they both deserve ridicule, even if I think it's all overblown.

[–]twomongsmakearight [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

I think TB makes an excellent point, in that your "SJW" types and your bog-standard internet trolls are essentially two sides of the same coin. I think they both enjoy antagonising people, with one doing it as a kind of moral-masturbation, taking pleasure in "being right" (even though morals mean different things to different people) with the other finding pleasure in annoying people and watching them lose their shit.

Personally, I just like reading /r/TumblrInAction/ and seeing all the mental gymnastics idiots like to use to justify their opinions or behaviour.

[–]Beckneard [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

It basically now means 'person I disagree with.'

Not really, no.

[–]sc2gaius [非表示スコア]  (27子コメント)

It basically now means 'person I disagree with.'

That's a weird oversimplification with no basis in reality.

[–]nctt [非表示スコア]  (13子コメント)

It is an oversimplification. But you do get called an SJW for an increasingly large amount of things nowadays...

[–]Yutrzenika1 [非表示スコア]  (10子コメント)

It's pretty ridiculous. I've seen people get the "SJW" card pulled on them for calling out something somebody said that was pretty racist.

I mean, really? That's not "SJW", that's being a decent human being.

[–]spraj [非表示スコア]  (9子コメント)

"You're tone policing me"

Nah dude I just dont think its cool to call someone a niggerfaggot, sorry.

[–]Venne1138 [非表示スコア]  (5子コメント)

A got called a SJW for saying that /r/theredpill might be sexist.

And on another account for saying that /r/whiterights was racist ._.

[–]Yutrzenika1 [非表示スコア]  (2子コメント)

Yeah pretty much. It goes the same every time.

"That's kinda racist, man."

"Wow learn to take a joke man, it's just sarcasm, quit being such an SJW!"

It being a joke doesn't make you not an asshole for saying it, dude.

[–]Kintobar [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Very true and I've seen MRA thrown around just as much as SJW, they're both labels used as shut down tactics to prevent any real conversations from happening.

[–]ohoni [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

It is misapplied a lot, as is "racist," and "misogynist," but that's because stupid people are stupid and misuse words, and there are plenty of them on both sides.

[–]MadlibVillainy [非表示スコア]  (2子コメント)

No basis in reality ? Are we on the same website right now ? I see this word being thrown left and right everytime someone talks about a feminist or someone that is talking about racism. Just like circlejerk is used when people are having an opinion that someone else disagree with.

[–]itsjusttoored [非表示スコア]  (8子コメント)

I've been called an SJW for disagreeing on gun issues whilst I was still subscribed to TiA at the time. It's a stupid initialism that does nothing but attempt to discredit any argument and create an "us v them" mentality for people on both sides to feel like the righteous party. Same goes for "MRA" as a slander.

[–]sc2gaius [非表示スコア]  (7子コメント)

Anecdotal evidence of the misuse of a word doesn't change the word's meaning or make it somehow useless. Somebody calling you a racist on the internet for no reason doesn't mean the word racist has suddenly lost all of its meaning.

[–]spraj [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

What is useful about it?

[–]itsjusttoored [非表示スコア]  (5子コメント)

You said it had no basis in reality. I just gave a real example from reality.

If you want though, define an SJW for me. I can guarantee that it won't be the same definition everybody else uses - some would say that "those darn trannies" are disgusting and anyone who defends them is an SJW, or that defending someone like Mike Brown or Trayvon Martin (despite them being very ambiguous cases) is an SJW, or that those who want gay marriage to be legal are SJWs, or that to say that women are discriminated against online are SJWs, or that those who are okay with subreddit rules to disallow insults are SJWs, or that if you disagree with the "cabal" idea in /r/subredditcancer or on Voat, you're an SJW - hell, even if you're not on /r/TheRedPill, you can be an SJW, or you can think that the UK doesn't really need guns and be an SJW.

It's a blanket term for anyone you happen to disagree with on social issues, basically. Say someone's an SJW and they have to prove they're not or accept it and let you dismiss them based on "well, they're a stupid SRS troll, no need to bother." It's pointless and if that's the limit of your debating technique then quite frankly I'm not impressed.

[–]HelloMcFly [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

It's a term whose meaning has changed, but I think can be defined. You have to think about what it used to mean and what it has become (note: this is my interpretation).

  • Old Meaning (up until about ~2012) - A term used to deride those who ostensibly cared about social justice, but in reality were typically seeking to self-promote one's own righteousness, or a "look how educated and progressive I am" disposition. This usually ended up just marginalizing groups even more than before, if it did anything at all (which it almost never did).

  • New Meaning (post-2012, but everywhere following GamerGate) - It is now a catch-all for anyone that supports anything related to social justice; it's effectively poisoned the term "social justice" with the implied assumption that our social world is just fine and dandy thank-you-very-much so please stop trying to change anything or even implying that any group is treated in a way that disadvantages or marginalizes them. The presumption is "SJW" don't get it, it's all fine, aren't they stupid? Why can't they see it like us smart ones?

It's essentially an insult lobbed at anyone voicing dissatisfaction with the status quo in various aspects of society, having moved from just social and socioeconomic groups to now almost all-things that are associated with a progressive political agenda.

[–]spraj [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Its really not, I saw someone say that the sex offender registry was created by social justice warriors. People throw the term at anyone they disagree with regardless of whether its accurate or not.

[–]Khiva [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

Who would you say it's being applied to incorrectly?

[–]n00dle37 [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

I just see it thrown around a lot. Of course it depends on the sub, but it sometimes seems as just identifying with feminism or finding gamergate a bit silly makes you an SJW in some peoples eyes. I realise now that saying that I 'hate' the term made my original comment come off as a bit too strong. It's also probably just that I go on SRD a lot, so I often see the most ridiculous comments. I can see how I might be coming off as generalising when it may be only a minority that is misusing the term.