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[–]mjcov 63 ポイント64 ポイント  (87子コメント)

Hopefully someone is brave and resourceful enough to demolish this building... with a car bomb or something.

[–]mrhappyoz 85 ポイント86 ポイント  (69子コメント)

Don't downvote this guy. Seriously, when you have a cancer like this, medicine prescribes chemo or radiotherapy.

Is this really the country you want to live in? Private laws and torture chambers?

Fuck that. Fuck everything about that. Fuck every person who thought it was alright to trample over people in this way. Fuck every person who became desensitized to violating people's rights and wellbeing on a daily basis.

Get active. Get angry. Get organized. Get off your fucking ass and shut this thing right down NOW before it becomes someone you know, someone you care about, someone you love, being tortured in secret because you were too lazy or complacent to voice your opinion and stop it.

You're not weak. You're not outnumbered. You've just believed the utter bullshit you've been fed by the media and the faux social constructs around you. Stop.

You are human. You have power. You can create change. How about right now?

[–]Meistermalkav 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Medicine does describe chemo when the cancer is small enough to go away on its own, an as a way to shrink the cancer.

How ever, in this casem, it is surgery you want. Precise, stupidly effective, bombastic surgery that noone can turn around and mark "domestic terrorism"

[–]BeneathTheRainbow 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I never granted the government a monopoly on violence.

Government tries to convince you that using violence is wrong when everything that government does is backed up with violence.

[–]GalacticEarwax 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (58子コメント)

I think the place should be Burned the F down to set an example.

And let me take it a step further. . I also think we should start targeting the % 1. They are expecting it. That is why they are buying bunkers and hideaways.

I say its time to bring it.

So sick of seeing people being financially, physically and emotionally raped of everything they have or are.

We are floundering as a nation and world. Sadly the time of patience has passed long ago and fear is the only thing animals like the incident in chicago understand.

[–]another_matt 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

The problem with this kind of vigilantism is that people are going to go after the wrong kind of 1%. The doctors or lawyers or managers who are making a $150k a year are not the enemy, they are being screwed just as much as the rest of us, but they are who the masses associate with the 1%. It's the 0.001% that are making all the money and have all the power and should be the targets, but they have walled compounds and 10,000 sq/ft penthouse apartments. They're going to be laughing when the masses start burning down the houses of white collar working class people.

[–]GalacticEarwax 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

You know.. I completely respect whar your saying.. and I get it.

With that said targeting the homes..yahts..cars..ect of the banksters, corporations with dubious lobbyists and so forth is not that hard. I am certainly not suggesting targeting your average 150-250k..or even millionaire. I mean lets send a message to those whose wealth knows no limits and was gained by initial hard work and then subsequently by fucking over everyone else..to the point that for awhile tent cities started popping up more aften accross the country. A whole city has become an apocalyptic wasteland (detroit)..ect.

Lastly. I also hope what I read about anon going after pedophiles is true. They should be wiped off this planet and I commend anon for doing the things government is unwilling to do.

I want some god damn semblance of peace..for a little while. I want to the human race to see someone step foot on mars.

The drudgery must end. We are such enlightened creatures.

[–]another_matt 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's a pretty radical future you're advocating for...you're basically saying that it's open season on the elite and the ultra rich. Maybe that's the stage of the class war that they've been planning and preparing for all this time. How long until you think the class war moves from a cold war to a hot one?

[–]BeneathTheRainbow -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I want some god damn semblance of peace..for a little while.

This is one point I would like to expand on a little bit. I don't think most people think about this:

We are living in an extremely barbaric and violent time in history. It is not normal for a country to be in a perpetual state of war. Historically, it would be normal for a country to have a time of peace at some point in time during the life of each generation.

We are approaching a point where generations are coming and going and we are constantly in a state of war. We have generations of people who will never know what it is like to live in peace.

We have our "government" to thank. This is not normal. I want to live in peace before I die.

[–]GalacticEarwax 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well said, very well said.

I guess my final thought is..

When I hear about such acts in chicago. Or our endless wars, trafficking of people, governments enslaving people with pieces of paper called money.and finally..putting people in cages and burning them alive...

When I hear about such things I often wonder "does it occurs to these people that they abusers and abused are only on this earth once."?

We are here once. We experience this life once. No religious discussion here. No new age. Just the simple observation that there are a million experiences to be had in this world..yet a certain few take this time to experience and practice pain and suffering on others.

Man I sound hypocritical because a few posts ago I was and am advocating violence by rising up. But I so agree that generations are flying by with survival to look forward to. That's it.

I don't expect a utopia..but I demand humanity.

[–]Pazians 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (48子コメント)

trust me people are ready for action . One day they WILL push it to far. They say america is lazy but cut off power for 48 hours and riots happen

[–]RoboBama 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (46子コメント)

I believe not using violence is extremely important. I think the fight for personal freedoms as personified by Dr. Martin Luther King was so successful for a reason.

And please for the love of god people, don't comment extremist type stuff on a public forum. Remember that there is a war on dissidents now more than ever.

[–]Meistermalkav 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

see, I absolutely agree with that.

What we have to think off first is narrative. If we bomb the secret prison, what will happen? Fuck, we get a bright young police officer in there, who just happened to be an eagle scout, and poof, he has suddenly no more record as a torturer, but he is a human interest story. Oh, why do the terrorists allways go after the small fish, buu huu huu...

simple, effective, 10 step program.

  1. The cops have the fucking gaull to decry, and turn their back to mayors? Protect and SERVE, bitches. So, if the cops turn their back to those they are supposed to serve, have the community turn their backs on them. You recruit 30-40 sprayers, and have them hold a tagging workshop, and you make stencils. like, cardboard cutouts that you just have to hold to a wall, spray once, get on. And then you tag the everliving fuck out of the neighborhood, and literaklly place "This way to chicagos police torture black site" on every wall you can find, starting at the neighborhood the building is in.

  2. They want to drown in their own shit? so be it. In order to clogg up a toilet supremely, take a thermos, and fill it up half with kitty litter, half with gravy. Call it, soup. Now,v when you near that place, pour the shit in their toilets, and flush. The result will form a clog in their system, really hard and reaölly tough. repeat 3-4 times, and they have a pipe that will literally have to be torn out the wall to get it clean.

  3. what works equally well is a gross out. get people who can vomit on command, and take them out to eat. As colorfull, and as vitriolic as possible. make sure they get milkshakes. Now, come in and report a crime. some bullshit like, they stole my handbag. Get agitated enough to hide the last row is chugging ipecak-syrup. enjoy the ensuing chaos. their lobby will never smell the same.

  4. water bottle full of 1/3rd bleach, 1/3rd salt and 1/3rd the most agressive chemical cleaner you can find. Have a jogg around the area. see a green spot? write, with the water bottle, a message to the cops in the grass. get rid of the waterbottle afterwards. who wants to see the lawn next to the secret prison say "chicago cops torture" in 30 feet letters?

  5. calling campaign. Simple, target the judges. Go, "are you aware that you are supporting domestic terrorism and black sites? " Make them, by hand, review every single case where a detainee could have been held in that facility. Help them out. Offer to pay for them interviewing the detainee if he saw any kin of torture there.

  6. The slashfic contest. Write the most grossed out slashfic possible. literally, sponsor your local 13 yeear old that writes porn for a hiobvby to write the most disgusting stuff about that secret site, where you basically use thinly disguised names of real people ( barry becomes barrie, ect) to infer that you only work there because you are a glorified rapist, child molester and torture porn freak. Breath heavily as you proudly hand the local cop a copy, and tell him you wrote that yourself, and the next time he works over a hooker or some of those leftist swine, could you like, participate? Make sure you do not hand it to the superior officers, but to the rank and file all throughout chicago. make them throw up in their mouth as they realize what the public think goes on there.

  7. invite the local press to a good old fashioned witch hunt. Public beatings have not gotten out of style yet. Simply invite the most yellow rainbow press motherfucker that you would not even believe about the weather if he stood right next to you to investigate thi secret site. do not go, is it true that you do not book protesters? Dop instead go, how many protestors have you killed inside this facility, and what are your thoughts about it. If they even once say no comment, take it as a confirmation.

  8. simple donnations in their name scam. Go through all the local charities that publish names of their donors. donnate in the names of the police comissioner and everyone in the secret facility to the most ouitlandish groups. let the police comissioner explain why 500 bucks were donated by thefraternal order of the police to the local KKK chapter. Heck, is the comissioner pro life? 15 bucks donnated to the next abortion clinic fund. The comissioner is pro choice? 20 bucks onnated to the most extremist christians in the city. Do not publish that in the media, untill you put your friend from the press ith the nose on it, when you looked atr the yearly donnation lists of the local KKK and you found the police comissioners name. I personally woul take over the "extremist christians an patriots", an would fund 5 bucks in their name to the next muslim charity that is currently suspected of supporting palestine and hammas.

  9. simple. The next time you need to check in somewhere? use their name instead of a fake name. Make them explain why they checked in at that motel and payed in cash, and then had a hooker up in the room. Make them explain why they were polled in seattle. Make them explain why a person with their name is banned from the titty joint in tacoma for life, because they missbehaved and got touchy with the girls.

  10. If nothing else helps: As soon s you see a cop, turn your back to him. have a tshirt that says, torture and black sites are unamerican, or some message. Can't fault you for turning while on foot, can they? Try to get as many people to join in as you can.

We have regular warfare, and we have psichological warfare. They think wou would choose regular warfare, so instead, go deep into psiops, and destroy their private lives. But do it in a manner, and this is important, where it seems like a joke. Or, like a coincidence. You remember the time when it came up that the US used music to torture people, and suddenly, everybody laughed about "yea, terrorists mjst be really smooth music critics...." The same should happen to the chicago police department, and EVERY cop, including the fraternal order of the police, that stands behind this.

[–]anonagent 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

MLK was assassinated by the FBI, and look at what happened to Michael Brown, Eric Garner, Tamir Rice, etc. I think MLK was mistaken, non violence doesn't really work.

[–]MycTyson 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I believe not using violence is extremely important. I

That's gotten us here where we are now. Lie down like a good dog...

I've been seeing more support for action against these wrong doings, this is good momentum for a possible movement.

We need to flush it all away - and start over. Federal, State and Local Governments need to be flushed. The web of corruption now knows no limits - and has entrenched itself so deep into the frameworks of society that it's impossible to simply vote it away. We need to do SOMETHING - just ranting about this on the internet will get us no where.

We need to unite under one cause and actually do something! But what? If not violence - what are we supposed to do? Write a strongly worded letter? Protest (and be arrested)?

We need to unite. Until then - all of these arm chair conversations on Reddit will be useless.

[–]NOTNixonsGhost 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's gotten us here where we are now. Lie down like a good dog...

Because the majority of the population do not share your beliefs. Try using violence and the government will stop on your neck while everyone cheers.

[–]RoboBama 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Violence makes you no different from those that you are fighting, and keep in mind these are your fellow countrymen.

Two quotes come to mind. Both accurate, endorsing non violence but urging action:

The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral, begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. Instead of diminishing evil, it multiplies it. Through violence you may murder the liar, but you cannot murder the lie, nor establish the truth. Through violence you may murder the hater, but you do not murder hate. In fact, violence merely increases hate. So it goes. Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that.


Cowardice asks the question - is it safe? Expediency asks the question - is it politic? Vanity asks the question - is it popular? But conscience asks the question - is it right? And there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular; but one must take it because it is right.

[–]anonagent 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You can't ensure peace without the threat of violence.

[–]skylarskylar 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sad but true

[–]MycTyson 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

But again - are we just supposed to bend over and take it or are we going to 'vote' it away? Voting only works if you've got the financial lobbying power of an Oil Baron.

Any other political party aside from Democrat or Republican are entertained simply to enable the powers that be to say 'Look, you have a choice!' so I'm genunienly at a loss as to what power we have to do anything.

The only thing that changes anything in this society is to do something dramatic. Violence enabled the death grip to be tightened firmly around our 'freedoms', surely, it can be loosened with violence too.

I'd like to imagine another solution, but bending over and biting the pillow do not seem like good options.

Maybe we can crowd fund a politician?

[–]MOS6502 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)


It may have worked for Ghandi and Dr. King, but TPTB have had time to study the tactics those two individuals implemented, and have contructed new laws to protect the status quo and have developed secret, oppressive counter-measures to neuter any sort of non-violent public disobidience. It's time for real change, though, not just a promise of change from a politician.

[–]JamesColesPardon 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Thank you. Especially the forum stuff.

[–]RoboBama 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Glad someone is listening. People think their anonymity is real on here i guess.

[–]JamesColesPardon 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

People are idiots. Sure, you have more anonymity here than Facebook and G+, but that's not saying much at this point...

[–]hightiedye 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (20子コメント)

I believe not using violence is extremely important. I think the fight for personal freedoms as personified by Dr. Martin Luther King was so successful for a reason.

Sorry but that is bullshit. There has never been a successful non-violence movement without a different group threatening violence. Black panthers would be the example in this case.

[–]JamesColesPardon 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Nonviolence works when the threat of violence is real.

The capability is fine - but stressing nonviolence and cooperation is key, and should be seen as a priority.

Not just

burn it to the ground!!!!1one!1

This is the opposite if constructive discourse. Literally.

[–]hightiedye -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Nah. It doesn't have to be constructive. It has be angry.

[–]JamesColesPardon 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I respectfully disagree.

[–]a9sdd8nas90 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

power does not just surrender though, it goes all-in, worst case same outcome, best case power is saved

[–]snizzypoo 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Sorry but that is bullshit. There has never been a successful non-violence movement without a different group threatening violence. Black panthers would be the example in this case.

Tell that to Otpor/CANVAS. Non-violent movements have been successful in other countries. In fact the Otpor movement was so successful in Yugoslavia that it was duplicated in 30 other countries. Less than half CANVAS operations work but it has become the tried and true method of NGOs/CIA to overthrow governments peacefully. Read this www.aeinstein.org/wp.../09/FDTD.pdf

We could use this idea but the establishment would try to infiltrate. There is also the problem of what comes after. Most revolutions turn out badly with the result of something worse than what you had before.

[–]hightiedye 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I am not claiming non-violence doesn't work. Are you claiming Otpor didn't have counterparts that were threatening violence?

[–]snizzypoo 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

If you can find sources for the idea that otpor had a violent wing or party I would be happy to research. I haven't found anything myself but I have been wrong before. I'm always open to new info.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you say that non-violence couldn't work?

[–]hightiedye 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you can find sources for the idea that otpor had a violent wing or party I would be happy to research.

Not a violent wing or party. Otpor was for the most part nonviolent (they set a government building on fire during the end of the movement)

I was meaning other groups as in the whole resistance movement the government was fighting.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you say that non-violence couldn't work?

Absolutely not

[–]RoboBama 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Okay, let's go you're route. Let's say it's all bullshit. So what then are your measures for violence?

These are other human beings, with families at home, some of whom are doing their best with the circumstances they are in.

Just burn down the station and possibly take a father from a daughter?

There are better ways to do this, but violence isn't the answer and it never has been. Sun Tzu's the art of war states that the purest victory is to win without ever having to fire a single shot.

[–]MOS6502 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sun Tzu's the art of war states that the purest victory is to win without ever having to fire a single shot.

That is why they are winning, and our buttholes are sore.

[–]MycTyson -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We'll win by submitting til we're dead!

[–]hightiedye 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

but violence isn't the answer and it never has been

I don't have any of those answers. I just know that there has never been a successful non-violent movement that didn't also have a counterpart that threaten or carried out violence.

I'm not trying to discount non-violence as it is accessible to all types of people and very important in the final stages of a movement, just try not to discount violent protests.

[–]RoboBama 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You have two examples from different posters higher up in this thread of effective nonviolent ways to fight and protest that can make a difference. One of which is highly successful and proven!

[–]hightiedye 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not trying to discount non-violence as it is accessible to all types of people and very important in the final stages of a movement

[–]BeneathTheRainbow 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

These are other human beings, with families at home, some of whom are doing their best with the circumstances they are in.

...Who at some point need to take responsibility for how they earn a living. If you make the choice to work for an agency that is involved in the oppression of your fellow citizens, then you also bear the full burden and responsibility of making that decision.

If a scientist, government official, or any other person chooses to apply their efforts towards destructive purposes, then that is a choice that individual has made and they are responsible for.

Nobody forced them, but they took the easy route of securing their income by force and serving their own interests at the expense of everyone else. If you want politicians to be guilty, then you can't ignore those people who have willfully chosen to serve those politicians in both the government and private sectors.

[–]RoboBama 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's true

[–]BeneathTheRainbow 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It is a harsh reality, but I think this pearl of wisdom is true:

Sometimes, one's greatest purpose in life may be to serve as an example to others.

[–]spiderholmes 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

And it's why "i was just following orders" doesn't stand as a defence.

[–]UnityNow 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

If those we were opposing didn't use violence, then what you're saying here would be possible.

But they do. Specifically, they use violence against people who try to peacefully protest. Some of the occupants of this facility were said to be nothing more than peaceful protesters. We've seen peaceful protesters violently attacked and arrested in other cities.

The idea that the "good" shouldn't use violence is a control mechanism trained into the slave class while the master class uses violence freely. There is no thing or action that in itself is wrong. It is only the purpose and meaning behind the surface that reveals if something is truly good.

For example, using violence in self defense, in response to an imminent threat to oneself or another, is universally accepted as a good thing to do. To allow oneself or another to be harmed by evil is not good for anyone, not even the evil being. Even if you define evil as a weakness or a disease, is it good for that being if we allow it to continue being weak and diseased? It certainly isn't good for those that the weak and diseased are preying upon.

One of our political mouthpieces once said, "They hate us for our freedoms." It would have been more accurate if he had said, "We hate you for your freedoms." The ruling class and their attack dogs respond violently when we try to act as free citizens.

Surely the police state we find ourselves in, especially an extreme like this facility, is an example of an imminent threat to the well being of every American citizen.

[–]BeneathTheRainbow 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The idea that the "good" shouldn't use violence is a control mechanism trained into the slave class while the master class uses violence freely. There is no thing or action that in itself is wrong. It is only the purpose and meaning behind the surface that reveals if something is truly good.

Exactly this. We've been trained to have a slave mentality. Because we are all tax slaves on this big $3trillion a year tax farm.

Humans are the most valuable and productive machines that have ever existed. I can't believe people don't understand that there are others that are willing to exploit this.

side note: I can only imagine all the ridiculous shit they are doing with our wealth that we don't know about. Like what is really in those underground military bases they have all over?

[–]daveywaveylol2 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I love MLk so I'm glad to see your comment. You should read "An Act of State" if you want to learn more about his death.

On the flipside, I kinda liked Malcom X a little better. His comments when MLK marched on Washington for jobs and freedom:

"criticized the march, describing it as "a picnic" and "a circus". He said the civil rights leaders had diluted the original purpose of the march, which had been to show the strength and anger of black people..."

I couldn't agree more with what he said. After fear, the next best tool they wield against the public is to passivise them. Why do you think there are so many joke tellers on serious threads in Reddit? Because a good joke turns off your anger, makes you feel better about the situation as a whole without adhering to facts or reason.

[–]moebetta 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

We should ask Dr. King what he thinks about this idea, now that he can look back and contemplate how effective his efforts were.

[–]RoboBama 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Alright, i have to concede defeat here. I don't think I'm going to win this argument. I understand the pathway to peace runs through hell.

[–]BeneathTheRainbow 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Let me ask you one simple question: Suppose we all peacefully walked up to the individuals most responsible for this and confronted them?

What do you suppose they would do? Would they go "Well guys, I guess you've figured out my dirty ways! I give up!"???

Or is it more likely they will seek to destroy anyone who opposes them through violence? These are the same people that decide murder is acceptable as long as you call them "collateral damage" and not "innocent people".

[–]moebetta 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Look, I'm not advocating violence either, but Dr. King was non-violent and they still capped his ass. That is the kind of people we're "fighting" against.

[–]BeneathTheRainbow 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

was so successful for a reason.

He's dead. He was murdered by the government. He was not successful. To this day, the government uses the media to divide people along fabricated "cultural" divides.

Why do you think they send people to race bait in cases like Trayvon Martin and down in Ferguson instead of the very clear cases of government officials murdering their citizens?

It's because they want to present a narrative that divides their citizens and keeps them fearful of each other so they don't turn their gaze on the government.

What if people are naturally quite peaceful and we are only driven to this irrational fear of each other by powerful people whose interests are served by keeping us divided?

[–]UnityNow 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What if people are naturally quite peaceful and we are only driven to this irrational fear of each other by powerful people whose interests are served by keeping us divided?

I often have this exact thought. The vast majority of people I've met in life are truly decent people who seek to take part in activities that create mutual benefit for all involved.

The current system is designed to move the greedy, the sociopaths, the psychopaths, and other disturbed individuals into positions of power. The parasites sit at the top of the pyramid taking nearly all of the productive energy of the workers. They've built a power structure that promotes others who are like them so that they can control and keep stealing from the masses.

Then they use mainstream media, which they completely control, to tell everyone that those in the 99% are the problem, that we should be afraid of every person we see, and that we must use an iron fist to keep everyone safe from these degenerates.

It's nearly always found that those few instances of people being truly terrible to each other are perpetrated by the controllers themselves. Here we have a clear example. Many daily police actions are also clear examples. The few cases of seemingly terrorist plots have nearly all turned out to be perpetrated by the government in one form or another. In protests, prisons, and private groups, the government often employs agents provocateur to stir up deceit, hatred, and violence where there was none. They are actively working to make it seem like humanity is evil at the root, all so that they can continue to control and steal from us.

Meanwhile, the workers are living in cages and wearing chains that they themselves smelted and built, or at least allowed to be built around them.

So when are we going to throw off our chains?

[–]notacrackheadofficer 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

MLK, the only civil rights leader that people are allowed to talk about.
I say that Robert F. Williams was clearly a greater influence on the state of things in civil rights than that clean cut and well behaved media darling MLK.
Every single person in the civil rights movement of the 60s knew very well who RFW was. Every Single Person.
Now? Almost no one knows who he was.
You should stick to TV, as most people will think you sound smart.
You will win popularity contests.
Emma Goldman did more for human rights than MLK, as well.

[–]drbarber -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

without the threat of violent uprising, MLK would have never had a seat at the negotiating table

[–]GalacticEarwax -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The moment the spark is lit and the nation starts to revolt I will be right there with them. My rage is endless at this point. .and that's sad.

[–]TobyTheRobot 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Cool man. You seem like a brave visionary leader who knows what needs to be done. You kick things off.

[–]notacrackheadofficer 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I got 5,000,000,000,000 downvotes for suggesting that occupy stick to the wealthiest towns to protest in. They really hated that idea.
''Let's stop traffic on a highway!'' LOL

[–]Apoplectic1 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Way to stick it to the lower middle/middle class on their way to work guys!"

[–]snbeings 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is there a list of names of who 1% is anywhere?

[–]know_comment -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm downvoting the shit out of this guy because that's as close as you come to a terrorist threat and I don't want my dissent and the forums I'm involved in to be branded as terroristic.

What do you think cointel does? It fosters this type of rhetoric. That's P2OG. If I were a cointel spook, I would infiltrate groups like this with dissenting opinions and I would say extremist bullshit exactly like this to label the groups as terrorist and honey pot out any individuals that I could set up as a patsy.

[–]mrhappyoz 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm not condoning his proposed solution, I'm praising his willingness to choose action over apathy. Apathy and helplessness are 2 of the biggest problems in fixing this shit. This facility needs to be closed and the people who work there investigated.

[–]know_comment 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well we can agree with that. If it's not an illegal operation, there is a big problem here.

I'll personally defend non-violent solutions and denounce violence in every possible situations, but I know my opinion is considered extreme in that regard.

I understand that others may have a differing opinion on this (which I hope most of us will condemn) but I don't want to see this forum being open to the expression of that opinion, because I think it is an extremely dangerous one and can create an equally dangerous and toxic situation both here and in general. And I'm extremely distrustful of anyone who would espouse that as a solution.

[–]vodruke 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is exactly what TPTB want. They have been creating entire industries and bureaucracy geared towards treating US citizens like terrorists. With every terrorist threat or school shooting we take another step towards total police state. Attacking this place would only accelerate that process. Do not be a provocateur.

[–]NOTNixonsGhost -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Funny how the top comment is advocating evidence destruction

[–]gnovos -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (14子コメント)

You better hop back here real fast and delete this comment if they do or they'll make you an accomplice. They'll gun you down for "going for your weapon" while you're still fast asleep in your bed and parade this comment around, proving you were the ringleader.

[–]LukeMeDuke 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (6子コメント)

The "fear" is strong within you. They win!

[–]gnovos -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I'm being somewhat sardonic.

[–]LukeMeDuke 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Thats fine but some misguided zombie will take it at face value.

[–]gnovos -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm not sure I see the down side, but maybe I misunderstand your meaning.

[–]wretched_excess 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What do sardines have to do with this?

[–]SlumberMachine 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Let me clear up what you did here. You were being facetious, but in the process you are spreading fear to the less informed, thus helping the enemy. Understand now?

[–]gnovos 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think this is what I did. But, if I did spread fear the easily afraid, I'm not apologizing for that. Coddling your allies is also helping your enemy. I don't want people on my side who are so easily cowed.

[–]battle 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No such thing as deleting something from the internet.

[–]FerretHydrocodone 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The comment was recorded the second it was posted. No sense taking it down now.

[–]conzorz 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

This sounds like a horrifying dystopian film :(

[–]gnovos 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It may soon be a documentary.

[–]conzorz 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or worse, completely ignored.

[–]anonagent 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Living in fear is for animals and cowards.