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[–]BlindWillieJohnson 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (18子コメント)

How we dealt with and still deal with Native Americans

[–]jscott39 [非表示スコア]  (7子コメント)

I get your trying to be edgy, but what do you honestly think we can do to better their situation? We give them so much aid, extra rights, free education. We pay for them to pretty much not work at the moment. Not saying we shouldn't, but what else can we do?

[–]BlindWillieJohnson [非表示スコア]  (6子コメント)

Investing in the communities to encourage business growth and provide them with basic infrastructure would be a start. Did you know that less than 50% of all reservation households have access to a sewage system? That's not me being edgy, it's a travesty.

[–]jscott39 [非表示スコア]  (5子コメント)

They are their own sovereign nations. We don't tax them, we give them aid, we directly give them money. We should let them be their own nation and dictate how they spend their money? Just seems like bad leadership to me.

We fucked these people over in the past just like African Americans. But black people have worked their asses off to assimilate and get equal rights (not saying they are 100% there yet) they are now a great benefit to our society. Why can't native Americans do the same?

I'm sure this is not gonna be a popular opinion, but I've lived next to reservations in Kansas for a long while now. It seems like a majority just get their us gov and nation checks and check out.

[–]BlindWillieJohnson [非表示スコア]  (4子コメント)

Are you seriously going to argue to me that 70% of Native Americans have collectively decided not to work? Or that over half of them have just decided to settle in homes that don't have plumbing? That 70% are content to live without access to basic healthcare? And if you really believe that, then justify the fact that the suicide rate among reservation natives is 82% higher than it is in the rest of the country.

When we wronged African Americans, we invested in their communities to make up for it. When we released Japanese Americans, we compensated them for their time spent interned. I'm not arguing that those populations had it easy, but there was a certain level of US federal effort to rectify the situations that's never happened with Natives. I don't accept "they need to get off their asses" as excuse for that kind of crippling and very much deadly poverty, and I don't believe that can morally allow ourselves to turn a blind eye to nations that we spent the better part of a century actively committing genocide against.

[–]jscott39 [非表示スコア]  (3子コメント)

We do invest! They demand to be their own nation! Who are these businesses that will hire blacks Latinos Asians etc, but NOT Native Americans? They want to be isolated and separate, and be middle class Americans? Don't see it happening in 2015.

[–]BlindWillieJohnson [非表示スコア]  (2子コメント)

They demand to be their own nation! Who are these businesses that will hire blacks Latinos Asians etc, but NOT Native Americans?

In a community with 70% unemployment, there simply are no businesses.

They want to be isolated and separate

They want to preserve their history and their culture, as well as some sense of independence that we robbed from them when we invaded their lands, killed their people and shipped them off to the worst shit holes in the country. And they'd like some support from us for doing that to them. I don't see that as being extremely unreasonable.

But hey, fuck their cultures. They should be like every other American and pull themselves up by their own bootstraps!

[–]jscott39 [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

Again, they want to preserve their nation and tribes. What do you want me to do? I don't feel any guilt about a population not wanting to partake in society around them and then feeling left out of said society. 100% sucks what happened 300 years ago, not my problem now though. Especially if they won't take advantage of the programs and opportunities that are already in place.

[–]BlindWillieJohnson [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

100% sucks what happened 300 years ago, not my problem now though.

You live in Kansas. The hell it isn't your problem.

[–]NaptownSwagger 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (8子コメント)

They've got casinos now, they're fine!

[–]BlindWillieJohnson -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I do hope you're joking.

EDIT: This is getting downvoted, but so little is known about what crippling poverty Reservation Natives live in within the US that "they have casinos, they're fine" is actually something people ignorant of their issues believe.

[–]LBJsShlong 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (5子コメント)

What are they suffering from now?

[–]BlindWillieJohnson [非表示スコア]  (3子コメント)

A lot of things, but it essentially boils down to crippling poverty and a federal government that won't do anything about it because there's no pressure for them to do so.

Native Americans on reservations today:

  • Suffer unemployment rates as high as 69% in some places
  • Have a $19,000 median income to the rest of the nations' 50,000
  • A 60% higher infant mortality rate than the rest of the nation
  • A life expectancy that hovers around 50
  • Are 82% more likely to commit suicide
  • Are 122% more likely to die of diabetes
  • 500% more likely to die from fucking TB
  • Have virtually no access to health care

It's absurd. It's a travesty. And in the world's richest nation, it utterly inexcusable. And the most offensive part of it all is that no one seems to give a shit.

[–]Avizard [非表示スコア]  (2子コメント)

sounds like a shitty neiborhood, why not just move?

[–]BlindWillieJohnson [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

Let them eat cake, eh?

Less than half these people have access to basic plumbing, and 2/3rds of them can't find work. Ignoring that fact that they're trying to keep their culture and ancestry alive, do you really think most of them can just pack up their shit and head to Palm Springs?

[–]Avizard [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

well they could move to a regular shitty neiborhood instead of a super shitty neiborhood, I dont know how much they get from the government but if you gave me a number I could tell you whether or not they could live in my town without working.

hint:they prolly can.

[–]Alagane -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The destruction of their culture. Preservation efforts are being taken, but their languages and traditions are dying quickly.