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[#81|+4934|2582] "Fifty shades of grey" is considered a romantic story only because the guy is a billionare. If he was living in a trailer or in a shack somewhere in the woods it would be an episode of "Criminal minds". [/r/Showerthoughts] (reddit.com)
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[–]PM_Me_For_Drugs 114 ポイント115 ポイント116 ポイント 2 日 前 (63子コメント)
Got removed 'cause it was too true
Female sexuality is... complicated, and women have an evolutionary instinct to be "pragmatic" about sex (AKA get knocked up by rich dudes that can provide for them and their eventual kids). It's one of those pesky little social conventions that most people kind of know, but you're still not really supposed to talk about it.
Society is kinda funny like that, and the internet has taken a hard swing towards "political correctness" regarding the battle of the sexes in recent years. Not surprising to see a post like this get deleted.
[–]jeegte12 14 ポイント15 ポイント16 ポイント 2 日 前 (24子コメント)
haha, yeah, that's why women like money. pragmatism.
[–]PM_Me_For_Drugs 28 ポイント29 ポイント30 ポイント 2 日 前 (23子コメント)
It is!
I mean originally that instinct was for food and shelter and necessities and that kind of thing... but now those things are mostly taken for granted, so it manifests as OMG SHOPPPINNNGGGGGG
So they buy outfits and shit instead, which is still pragmatic. Looking nice creates backup options.
[–]GamingTheSystem-01 8 ポイント9 ポイント10 ポイント 2 日 前 (1子コメント)
Perhaps greed is a universal fault, and women simply have more opportunities to indulge.
[–]PM_Me_For_Drugs 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 1 日 前 (0子コメント)
I could agree with that.
[+]AnOnlineHandle スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント 2 日 前 (4子コメント)
Your post is missing a key component of admitting that it's pure speculation, one of a bajillion plausible sounding hand wavey armchair psychology attempts in history.
[–]lolthr0w 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 2 日 前 (3子コメント)
This is the guy that says "Well, duh! It's common sense!" to every single fucking psych paper that gets sensationalized in a popsci article.
Even the ones that directly contradict each other.
facepalm At least it makes it easier to get grants if you don't mind being an attention whore.
[–]KuntaStillSingle 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 2 日 前 (2子コメント)
This is the guy that points the guy that does the thing.
[–]lolthr0w -2 ポイント-1 ポイント0 ポイント 2 日 前 (1子コメント)
(☞゚∀゚)☞ The guy that does the thing
^ This (The guy)
[–]Monosentence 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 2 日 前 (0子コメント)
You keep on doing the thing, guy!
[+]jeegte12 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント 2 日 前 (15子コメント)
you'll never convince me that greed and gluttony is pragmatic. born from pragmatism, maybe. distantly related to pragmatism? eh... possibly. but shopping for shit you don't need is not and never will be pragmatic. humans are smart enough to know the difference.
[–]PM_Me_For_Drugs 20 ポイント21 ポイント22 ポイント 2 日 前 (14子コメント)
humans are smart enough to know the difference.
Hoooooo boy, I hope you're young, because that is some awfully idealistic talk. We all still have plenty of animal in us, and the proof is everywhere.
You should travel around the block a bit, run in a few... unconventional social circles, pay close attention to what people do, ignore what they say, and get back to me in a few years.
Because right now it kinda sounds like you don't know shit.
[–]wantonballbag 16 ポイント17 ポイント18 ポイント 2 日 前 (0子コメント)
pay close attention to what people do, ignore what they say
Solid life advice.
[–]RevDrStrangelove 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 13 時間 前 (0子コメント)
This.
[+]jeegte12 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-13 ポイント-12 ポイント-11 ポイント 2 日 前* (11子コメント)
you disagree with my assertion that people know that consumerism is greedy?
even if someone doesn't know the difference, it doesn't automatically make their greed pragmatic. i think you're trying way too hard to be condescending, and you're making yourself look pretty ridiculous.
fuck off, you're an idiot
[+]PM_Me_For_Drugs スコアが基準値未満のコメント-15 ポイント-14 ポイント-13 ポイント 2 日 前 (10子コメント)
... The fuck are you talking about? When did you "assert" that?
"Merr merr I'm asserting things"
Speaking of trying too hard... sheesh. Just speak naturally. Don't bust out the thesaurus and try to match my multisyllabic verbosity; you couldn't even keep up with me if I was concussed and on horse tranquilizers.
Anywhoozles, I find it really hard not to be condescending to a person who can't seem to separate his rigid perception of his own morals from external ethical systems or the biological history of his species.
You're like 100% feels/ideals and 0% history/science right now.
[–]knickerbockers 5 ポイント6 ポイント7 ポイント 2 日 前 (4子コメント)
random assumption of masculinity simultaneously bitching about wordiness and going overboard w "multisyllabic"-ness
random assumption of masculinity
simultaneously bitching about wordiness and going overboard w "multisyllabic"-ness
so damn confused right now.
[+]PM_Me_For_Drugs スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6 ポイント-5 ポイント-4 ポイント 1 日 前 (3子コメント)
This is reddit. reddit. Am I really gonna be dead serious the whole time??
Then I'd sound like /u/jeegte12 up there... getting all mad and editing my comments after the fact to get all obviously upset... adding in clever barbs like "fuck off, you're an idiot"
Stakes are low brah, this website is my pastime for morning coffee, taking a shit, and slow moments at work. There's absolutely no call to get invested and emotional on a forum like this, so I just have fun with it... It's supposed to be fun, right?
[–]jeegte12 -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 1 日 前 (2子コメント)
I haven't edited anything...?
And you're pretty clearly invested in this argument. Otherwise you simply wouldn't respond.
[–]jeegte12 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 2 日 前 (4子コメント)
...is the word 'assert' is so advanced to you that it's unnatural? You sound like a little kid.
Also, you totally and completely avoided acknowledging my argument. You're nowhere near as smart as you think you are.
when did you 'assert' that?
In my first comment. Greed and gluttony is not pragmatic. You don't need your pretend knowledge of history to know that shopping for things you don't need is not pragmatic.
[+]PM_Me_For_Drugs スコアが基準値未満のコメント-9 ポイント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント 1 日 前 (3子コメント)
Of course it's not a fucking advanced word, you just shoehorned it in really awkwardly in an obvious attempt to sound smart (while still entirely missing the point). "Merr I asserted something about consumerism, meeerrr"
Meanwhile you still don't seem to understand the difference between conscious thought and evolutionary instinct.
[–]jeegte12 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 1 日 前 (2子コメント)
Okay, please acknowledge my argument this time instead of doing these ridiculous ad hominems. And what the fuck is with the sound effects? Are you 12?
I'm saying that buying clothes and shoes you don't need isn't pragmatic.
You're saying that those people buying those things are doing it because of evolution.
Do I have that right? If so, you're pretty obviously not acknowledging my argument. You're just trying to make your point and ignoring the content presented by your perceived opposition. Like a 12 year old.
[–]santsi 9 ポイント10 ポイント11 ポイント 2 日 前 (1子コメント)
Wow, good job wedging your favorite agenda to a post that's about how we (our culture as a whole, not just women) perceive actions of rich and poor people differently.
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[–]amicocinghiale 6 ポイント7 ポイント8 ポイント 2 日 前 (1子コメント)
Hypergamy.
[–]PM_Me_For_Drugs 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 1 日 前 (0子コメント)
Yep.
As much as we like to pretend otherwise, we are still very much animals in some very crucial ways...
[–]mrboombastic123 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 2 日 前 (1子コメント)
Can't tell if this is serious, or just next level sarcasm.
[–]jonnysulami 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 17 時間 前 (1子コメント)
At least it is good that you believe in evolution. I suppose that is a small triumph itself.
[–]PM_Me_For_Drugs 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 21 分 前 (0子コメント)
Indeed. I tip my fedora of enlightenment to you, sir.
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[–]PM_Me_For_Drugs -2 ポイント-1 ポイント0 ポイント 1 日 前 (0子コメント)
Actually some cool ideas and a surprisingly positive vibe over there. I think they catch an undue amount of shit from the reddit community because:
A) There's some obviously wounded, woman-hating fringe members of the red pill whom detractors like to point out as evidence that the whole sub is full of toxic woman-haters.
B) Reddit is full of guys who whine about being "friendzoned", etc, so maybe they don't quite understand the tricky (and often contradictory) nature of human sexuality in a social context quite yet
C) Manipulative women don't like being called out on their tactics, which are surprisingly uniform across the board
D) A lot of redditors still live with their moms, have had <5 girlfriends, and/or watch extremely explicit internet porn, so they have a deeply-entrenched and wildly conflicting perception of female psychology/sexuality in general (aka the Madonna-whore complex)
[–]plumquat -4 ポイント-3 ポイント-2 ポイント 2 日 前 (0子コメント)
I think of it like he's the winning yak. he's that pimp yak that out dueled everyone. you just want the more successful specimen for your mate. guys are the same way, you want the girl with the big hips because it's a biological imperative for you're kids IQ. buying stuff, psh that's often not a meaningful consideration for many women. guys who were misled that it's about money and not success and then they always make a point about buying you stuff... it's so desperate.
[+]k_nasty スコアが基準値未満のコメント-19 ポイント-18 ポイント-17 ポイント 2 日 前 (4子コメント)
This sounds justified but I'm afraid to accept it because it's straight from red pill
[–]PM_Me_For_Drugs 8 ポイント9 ポイント10 ポイント 1 日 前 (3子コメント)
I'm afraid
Take a good, long look at what you just said.
You're afraid to accept something... because other people said you should hate the source?
Are you saying you're afraid to think for yourself?
[+]k_nasty スコアが基準値未満のコメント-11 ポイント-10 ポイント-9 ポイント 1 日 前 (2子コメント)
I should've said hesitant. Fuck off.
Just because something sounds justified doesn't mean it necessarily is.
[–]madgreed 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 1 日 前 (1子コメント)
Um can't you apply this to any belief system or idea than? Why not just change all your opinions.
[–]k_nasty -4 ポイント-3 ポイント-2 ポイント 1 日 前 (0子コメント)
Yes I can and I do. You shouldn't accept any idea based on one opinion. It's called critical thinking and the fact that you don't realize it actually makes a lot of sense in the reddit community.
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[–]PM_Me_For_Drugs 19 ポイント20 ポイント21 ポイント 2 日 前 (19子コメント)
excusing why they want to bone 15-year olds
I can't tell if you're being serious (because despite the legality, that's an incredibly common type of sexual attraction) but just for grins, let's take a look at some of the biological, reproductive reasons why men would be attracted to pubescent girls -
Less chance of STDs
Less likely to already have children by other men
More chance of a healthy pregnancy
More time to bear lots of children if you get started early
Now socially and ethically it's a completely different story, and I'm definitely not saying grown men should fuck 15-year olds... but we spent 5 million years living as animals before forming civilized laws. Despite the heights we've reached as a species, the basic architecture of our biology hasn't changed very much at all.
Smugly insisting that social ethics somehow preclude millions of years of evolution just makes you look seem a bit ignorant bro
[–]Viking83 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 1 日 前 (1子コメント)
Well, in some countries - such as the one I'm living in - boning 15 year-olds is perfectly legal.
I myself like to bone my 28-year-old boyfriend, but American sexual norms are (luckily) not the world's sexual norms.
Actually the age of sexual consent in a surprising amount of U.S. states is 15-16, sometimes depending on a few other factors...
... The main one being that you can't take pictures. Obviously.
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[–]too_long_didnt_read 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 2 日 前 (15子コメント)
the chance of successful pregnancy at 15 or less is significantly lessened compared to a fully-developed adult
I don't think you know how puberty works. At 15 most girls are 4 or even 5 years past the point of starting their periods and 15 year olds routinely have healthy children every day in every country in the world. Or does teen pregnancy doesn't real to you also?
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[–]too_long_didnt_read 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 2 日 前 (13子コメント)
If you're basing your opinion on under 15's, those figures will relate to pregnancies carried by 11, 12, 13, and 14 years olds. We're specifically talking about 15 year olds plus.
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[–]too_long_didnt_read 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 2 日 前 (11子コメント)
What? This entire thread is literally discussing 15 year old girls and their ability to conceive healthy children.
Your figures for the offspring of under 15's aren't relevant since they are skewed by figures for 11-14 year olds.
The age of consent is irrelevant to what's being discussed. We're literally talking about the biology of a 15 year old girl having children, not social policy.
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