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Why do conspiratards care about free speech on reddit? (serious question) (self.conspiratard)

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[–]Lucktar 37 ポイント38 ポイント  (33子コメント)

Because they haven't ever actually read the Constitution, they've just heard the phrase 'freedom of speech' used (or misused) by other people.

[–]knowless -8 ポイント-7 ポイント  (32子コメント)

what happens when the government contracts with private institutions to alter or censor user created content?

[–]BoojumG 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (31子コメント)

Still doesn't apply to Reddit. Nothing legally obligates a private institution to give you a soapbox, and Reddit is privately owned.

EDIT: Though if you mean government exerting pressure on private entities to censor things, I agree that would be a problem. Just to give the actual First Amendment more exposure:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

[–]knowless -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (30子コメント)

so in your opinion would the first amendment prohibitions on abridging the right to free speech extend to prohibiting contracting with agencies whose sole purpose was to alter debate in favor of a predetermined narrative?

[–]reconditecache 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (29子コメント)

No. Not unless it crossed lines into silencing other opinions. There is nothing in there that prohibits propaganda. That's not even opinion.

[–]BoojumG 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Right. Where it would become a problem is if government gets into the business of using legal and physical force to silence people for voicing opinions that the current administration does not like - which is a line that has been flirted with in various contexts over the years, such as McCarthyism during the second Red Scare. It wasn't literally illegal to be a communist, but it was pretty close in practice at times.

[–]knowless -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (27子コメント)

You believe that the constitution, as it was written, was intended to allow for government propoganda? What about the ninth amendment? And the fourth?

[–]BoojumG 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (26子コメント)

What about them?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution