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[–]hermithome[S] 2 points3 points4 points  (68 children)
On the off-chance this doesn't get downvoted to oblivion, anyone up for a drinking game? Take a shot every time one of the assholes described in the article shows up here. No, make that a sip. A shot each time would kill ya.
[–]John_Wilkes 5 points6 points7 points  (3 children)
Couldn't this sort of list be generated by any opinion position to disqualify their opponents? We all know what the main arguments of the other side are, and you can just list all the extreme and moderate ones together, call them assholes, and then refuse to listen. Anyone that shows up can't make any counter argument because you're already predicted them as assholes.
Oh, and for the record, this is the post that will get downvoted to oblivion, not your post.
[–]Skullatron [score hidden]  (0 children)
Oh, and for the record, this is the post that will get downvoted to oblivion, not your post.
Hmmm. Your comment is at 7 while the one above it is at 1.
[–]PM_ME_UR_GROSSKREUTZ -5 points-4 points-3 points  (1 child)
this sounds a bit like a variation on #1
[–]VirtusPeccatum -1 points0 points1 point  (62 children)
Ill let you have the first shot right here and now, make sure to take full shot because its people like you that ruin feminism and other equality movement for everybody else.
You are the embodiment of what is wrong with feminism so ill also take a shot
[–]PM_ME_UR_GROSSKREUTZ 5 points6 points7 points  (1 child)
please tell us how hermithome is the embodiment of what's wrong with feminism, my breath is bated, my hooks are tentered
[–]ReaderHarlaw [score hidden]  (0 children)
Because she's talking, duh. The only good feminists are the ones who make like Milford men until it's time to jump up and say "I'm a feminist, but I really think that misogynist is right about this."
[–]hermithome[S] 3 points4 points5 points  (57 children)
Hahahahaha! I was sure that you were trolling, but I took a look at your comment history and you're totally serious. This is going to be an awesome drinking game.
[–]norfolktilidie 3 points4 points5 points  (11 children)
She's right. Feminism should be about convincing people that things are wrong by persuasion. Just calling names at anyone that disagrees with us just makes us hated.
[–]spacehogg 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)

4!

[–]SquareIsTopOfCool 0 points1 point2 points  (9 children)
I'm calling #4 again. Showing up a lot in this thread!
[–]spacehogg -2 points-1 points0 points  (7 children)
Great minds!
[–]norfolktilidie comment score below threshold[score hidden]  (6 children)
'Fools seldom differ' might be nearer to the mark.
[–]SquareIsTopOfCool [score hidden]  (4 children)
I get why you think that, because I used to feel similarly. I didn't start out this jaded; I believed from the bottom of my heart that I could change people's minds if I took the time to make them understand. And I tried. I had hundreds of discussions with people who I thought were just un- or misinformed, with self-professed "equalists" or "egalitarians," with people who kept asking me to prove that the patriarchy exists. Often they would get angry and misogynistic; their innocent-sounding questions were merely a ruse to start an argument or derail a discussion.
And it wore me out. I wasn't convincing people that feminism had merits; they weren't even open to changing their opinions. They were making me argue, which I didn't want to do, and they were much more dedicated to "winning" the arguments than I was (of course, they were the ones who decided who "won," so it was impossible for me to "win"). When I got angry about my experiences, I was told - the same way you're telling me now - that getting angry at people is what gave feminism a "bad name." I was told that I was the problem.
And norfolktilidie, I have to tell you, that is a load of bullshit. I am allowed to get angry at people who disrespect me and the people with whom I associate (and so are you; I don't really blame you if this pisses you off). I will call out asshole behavior when I see it, and I don't care any more if that makes me disliked. A life where I suppress my anger is too suffocating.
[–]BabyMcHaggis [score hidden]  (2 children)
This is one of the most sincere and awesome posts I've read in a long time. Thanks for taking the time to write it out. For real.
[–]SquareIsTopOfCool [score hidden]  (1 child)
Thank you for taking the time to read it! I didn't think anyone would. You've been awesome in this thread. :)
[–]Skullatron [score hidden]  (0 children)
Dear lord, this sums up 99% of my experiences discussing gender issues on the internet. What a perfectly poignant comment.
[–]spacehogg [score hidden]  (0 children)
Hmm... #8 or is this #6!
[–]EverAwakened -2 points-1 points0 points  (44 children)
Creeping comment histories was "Asshole #3", you 2X dolt.
[–]anisaerah -1 points0 points1 point  (43 children)
It's always more amusing when people don't realize you're making fun of them.
[–]EverAwakened 3 points4 points5 points  (42 children)
Which one of the 8 "assholes" am I then?
I didn't see a "pointing out OP's hypocrisy" section.
[–]spacehogg [score hidden]  (25 children)
As I said, I don't need women for those things. I learned years ago they were worthless for everything except the warm hole between their legs. All I'm saying is how would you expect men to come to any other conclusion?
After reading this in your history, I'd say all of them!
[–]EverAwakened [score hidden]  (24 children)
And by creeping my history, you've made yourself asshole #3.
LOL. After reading your comment history, I find many of your comments deal with bashing others for their comment history.
Just one more hypocrite in a sub full of them.
[–]anisaerah [score hidden]  (21 children)
Just because using irrelevant things someone once said is a poor debate tactic, doesn't mean you're not an asshole for being a misogynist.
[–]EverAwakened [score hidden]  (20 children)
"Misogynist" is the exact male equivalent of "feminist".
Why be so proud of your gender while insisting I be ashamed of mine?
If, as you all suppose, you are for gender equality and not, as it often appears, for female domination.
[–]PM_ME_UR_GROSSKREUTZ [score hidden]  (0 children)
that would be true only if you were a feminist
i'm sorry you had trouble comprehending the article :(
[–]spacehogg [score hidden]  (0 children)
Still, one is better than all of them!
[–]anisaerah 1 point2 points3 points  (13 children)
I dunno, the kind of asshole who doesn't think women are people like men are?
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    [–]PM_ME_UR_GROSSKREUTZ -1 points0 points1 point  (6 children)
    you're not even trying now
    [–][deleted]  (4 children)
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      [–]EverAwakened [score hidden]  (2 children)
      Asshole isn't a gendered slur.
      Yes, because everybody knows how common it is to call a woman an asshole.
      [–][deleted]  (1 child)
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        [–]Six_Stringed_Samurai 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
        Burn so hot that OP is ablaze.
        [–]finigian -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
        After the day I've had a drinking would be great!
        Pass the vodka.
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