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Why beta draw? (self.infertility)

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[–]tachybradyPCOS,severeMFI/azoospermia. FET 2/5. Beta 2/17. TWW hell! 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (26子コメント)

A blood test is much more sensitive. The likelihood of a false negative or false positive is much less. And they can trend the actual level of HCG in your blood over several draws to make sure it's rising appropriately. They can diagnose possible ectopic pregnancy earlier than clinical symptoms based on the trend of the HCG.

They also test progesterone levels to make sure it's not too low (even with supplementing) since low progesterone is a very common cause of early MC.

I'm not sure why you wouldn't want your blood drawn.

[–]salty-lemons33, 1MC, treated hypo, injectable IUI[S] -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (25子コメント)

I don't like medical stuff, never have. Gives me the hebbiejebbies. I'm not an easy stick. I have a fear of needles and I cry every time in anxiety. And cost. It's expensive. And I have a stupid vasovagal response and sometimes feel sick the rest of the day (the real reason for the hebbiejebbies).

I am getting a 7dpo progesterone test, so I'll know if my progesterone is low. Although I've had it tested twice without supplementation and it was fine. The progesterone supplementation is just "it can't hurt". I really don't like the "It can't hurt" reasoning but I mostly go with it. Getting my blood drawn is somewhat traumatic for me and I'm looking to keep the trauma as low as possible with all this shit so that includes as few as possible.

Also, if I'm pregnant and I don't have low progesterone, if I stop the supplements, it'll just be like a normal person who is pregnant. Or could the drop in progesterone cause a miscarriage even if I don't have low p? (I'll be asking my doc all of these questions too. I push to have as few blood draws as possible. I double up on tests- 'oh? You're testing progesterone? Throw in the TSH too. Can we do my next TSH on CD3 if we need FSH and estrodial tested?' Etc.)

[–]PrincessCBHammockMFI. TTC 4+ yrs, IVF w/ ICSI -8 ポイント-7 ポイント  (24子コメント)

I don't like medical stuff, never have. Gives me the hebbiejebbies. I'm not an easy stick. I have a fear of needles and I cry every time in anxiety.

What are you going to do when you go through labor? Spoiler alert: it's way more painful than a little blood draw and you will more than likely get at least one IV.

[–]Pamzella37 TTC #1 MFI & DOR 1MC 5IUIs [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

I realize you were trying to give her a bit of tough love. I have dealt with this too, and it's not actually a fear of needles and it's not about pain. It is a failure in the lizard part of our brain to recognize a puncture, particularly involving something going in or coming out, as anything but a life-threatening injury, the body shuts down blood flow to protect the brain. I tried for years to "be tough" after this was a constant as a kid. With a round of shots in college, some nurses let me lay down but then kicked me out of the clinic a few minutes later, I bravely tried to go home, and woke up some time later with elevator doors slamming on me repeatedly. The staff ended up seeing no patients for an hour as I continued to pass out a few more times. Even if it's brief, you feel like a mack truck hit you. And it was upsetting for so many years to think it was me, I just wasn't tough enough for it. A short time after that elevator episode, some other nurses set me and my family (who thought I was just a wimp) straight, and gave me some practical solutions for how to deal with it, and I survived labs every 3 days for 6 months while on warfarin, and I don't have problems hardly ever (can't say never) anymore. I just wanted you to know in case you came across someone else in a similar situation. My front teeth are broken due to a fall outside a lab in high school when I "bravely" and uneventfully got my labs done and left, and like everything else, insurance can see the damage but will not cover the repair even though it affects my appearance because they are assholes, as insurance usually is.

[–]BibbitybooMFI, IVF#1 Feb/March [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

I'm sorry, but that is so unsupportive and terrible to say. There is NO connection between needles and labour.

We have to go through enough shit with IF that we don't need to be unsupportive and unkind to each other. This should be a safe place. If you don't like the tone, feel free to go to a different thread and ignore her. You don't need to be hurtful

[–]waterfall444stuck in hell [非表示スコア]  (2子コメント)

As her friend I can tell you she will be a fierce bad ass and get through labor really well. Stop projecting on people. You're being mean and have no idea who she is to make these judgments.

[–]usernameismyrealname 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (11子コメント)

I've gone through 3 days of prodromal labor and a day of active labor and I still get squeamish when I get shots/blood drawn/IVs placed. What are you trying to accomplish by being so condescending to OP?

[–]PrincessCBHammockMFI. TTC 4+ yrs, IVF w/ ICSI -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (10子コメント)

It's pretty obvious by the amount of downvotes that she's gotten that the sub is not feeling the way she's complaining. I just had the balls to say it. When I was more active in this sub, there was plenty of tough love given and received but it's obvious the tone has changed.

[–]usernameismyrealname 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Wow, you really think of yourself as a bit of a hero, don't you? For basically telling a woman trying to get pregnant that she's too much of a pussy to do it because she doesn't like needles? It's amazing to me that you feel like you need to explain to a grown woman who is apparently well versed in medical procedures that labor and childbirth involve pain, and then consider yourself a champion of the discussion because no one else was rude or obnoxious enough to do it.

[–]Petunia_JAK5 Failed IUIs, Abdominal Myomectomy Dec [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

Yeah the tone is a lot different. I'm not always on board with the "tough love" but I'm not always on board with hugs and rainbows either. I wish it was more somewhere in the middle. Oh well...

[–]BibbitybooMFI, IVF#1 Feb/March [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

I don't think tough love is nesc. for us. We struggle so much with all the aspects of IF, and how hard it is for others to understand what we are going through. I don't think we need to be harsh, tough, or any of that with each other. I feel like we're better suited to support each other.

[–]deltarefund [非表示スコア]  (4子コメント)

I'm baffled by why anyone going through IF needs tough love. What? Are we just not trying hard enough? Do we need some tough love and be told to relax? Makes no sense.

[–]PrincessCBHammockMFI. TTC 4+ yrs, IVF w/ ICSI [非表示スコア]  (3子コメント)

OK that is unfair and I'd never say that, comparing that to what I said is a stretch.

[–]deltarefund [非表示スコア]  (2子コメント)

Can you explain what 'tough love' we need then?

[–]PrincessCBHammockMFI. TTC 4+ yrs, IVF w/ ICSI [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

Who's "we"? I was talking to OP about complaining about blood draws. Nothing more, nothing less.

[–]deltarefund [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Well you claimed to have liked it here better before, when there was more "tough love". And I'm just still really baffled why anyone here needs tough love at all. Frankly, I'm OK with this being a space where people are "too nice", because its a really shitty place to be.

[–]salty-lemons33, 1MC, treated hypo, injectable IUI[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (6子コメント)

What will I do when I go through labor? Spoiler Alert: That's a pretty bullshit response to my question. My question isn't about labor, it's about if a beta blood draw is necessary and if everyone's REs require it.

We are all fighting a hard battle here, why make the choice to belittle someone?

[–]PrincessCBHammockMFI. TTC 4+ yrs, IVF w/ ICSI 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I'm not trying to belittle you, I'm being real. You're sitting here complaining about needles to women who stick themselves every day - and hate it - but don't complain because it's worth the pain. Some girls don't even get to the point of beta and youre sitting here bitching about it.

[–]salty-lemons33, 1MC, treated hypo, injectable IUI[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Yes, you were belittling, just own it. Saying I won't be able to deal with labor in a sub about trying to have a baby is straight up insulting and you know it. Also "spoiler alert" was just you being shitty. That wasn't real talk, that was you tearing down a fellow fighter in this battle.

I am one of the women getting injections every day. I am doing the stims, I am doing the trigger, I am doing the progesterone test. I am doing whatever it takes. And since many of the ladies here opt out of the beta, it obviously wasn't a bad question.

Part of the goodness about this sub is that it is a safe place to complain about everything we go through.

[–]PrincessCBHammockMFI. TTC 4+ yrs, IVF w/ ICSI -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

If it's belittling to tell you you sound like you're being whiny for no reason, then sobeit. It's my opinion that if youre making this big of a deal over a beta, maybe you do need a little tough love. There's plenty of shitty stuff relating to infertility, I chose/choose to not dwell on the smaller shitty stuff. My tone might not be your favorite but it was I thought from the downvotes and you saying "but why" when people were trying to patiently explain the beta process, I'd step in. Thank you for reminding me that this sub has taken a sharp turn since I was more active. Best of luck.

ETA and I didn't say you wouldn't be able to handle labor, but that is the final goal, hopefully, is it not?

[–]BibbitybooMFI, IVF#1 Feb/March [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

I thought her question was actually a very valid one. I've never had to do a beta draw after an IUI. Her question was trying to understand something, which is actually a great use of the forum.

I'm sorry you feel this sub has taken a sharp turn since you were more active. I've actually found a great deal of wonderful support in the forum and really love it here. I think your comments have been amongst the few exceptions.

[–]waterfall444stuck in hell [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

She didn't say she couldn't handle a blood draw, she asked if its necessary. Totally different thing. And REs are not always right FYI. Three of mine were WRONG and the fourth one was right. Drs are not always right and advocating for yourself is a big necessary part of some peoples IF journey.

[–]PrincessCBHammockMFI. TTC 4+ yrs, IVF w/ ICSI [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

I didn't say she said that either. Pipe down seriously.