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[–]doublewhiskeysoda 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's funny that OP used an image of Samuel L. Jackson - since he was a student at Morehouse College in Atlanta and an active member of the Black Power movement in the late 60s/early 70s.

[–]MasonFuckingVerger 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He'd slap the shit out of all these 14 year old suburban white kids claiming they're oppressed, and I'd pay to watch it too

[–]SkidMark_wahlberg 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Everyone is ignoring the real problem here. The meme is used incorrectly.

[–]nomoslowmoyohomo 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Does that somehow negate the fact that there are black people important to American history that were not appreciated in their time? Black history month isn't white guilt month.
Hope I didn't interrupt the persecution train!

[–]McTrollski 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (13子コメント)

Every time I hear about reparations, I think how insulting it is that the blood-soaked battlefields of the civil war weren't enough.

[–]King_330 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You wouldn't like al sharpton

[–]koproller 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (11子コメント)

Hahahaha. The union went to war to hold the union together.
-" "I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so." Abraham Lincoln
The only people who went to war for slaves, where the people who wanted to keep the right to keep slaves.
- "Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery — the greatest material interest of the world … a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization." documents of the Confederacy
- We hold as undeniable truths that the governments of the various States, and of the confederacy itself, were established exclusively by the white race, for themselves and their posterity; that the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this country be rendered beneficial or tolerable."
Face it. The people who died where either in favor of slavery, or in favor of the union. Nobody died to stop slavery.

[–]badluckdragon 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (10子コメント)

If you want to blame people for slavery then start with the people in Africa that started slavery and made it popular.

The early settlers didn't go to Africa and round them up like cattle, they bought African slaves from Africans.

[–]bolivar-shagnasty 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

My ancestors were Dutch. We didn't really have good human rights track record in the whole "owning people" business.

On behalf of all white people, I take responsibility.

Sorry everyone.

[–]koproller 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I know you don't care about information that doesn't confirm your bias, but for the people who might care.
The slavery you had in Africa, was more like indentured servitude. They had rights. They where slaves, as a result of war or crime, but they where regarded as human. and slaves where a minority.

Europeans changed this. In the 18 century raiding expeditions where send to Africa with the sole purpose of getting slaves. And slaves, where not human. They are cattle. No soul. No rights. As much worth as the highest bidder would be able to afford.
We call them both slaves. But other then their name, they have little in common.

[–]badluckdragon 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The differences of opinion stem mostly from how slavery is defined. Theory and practice of Egyptian slavery were, as far as we can ascertain, quite different from those of Greece, Rome or the southern states of the USA, where slaves were wholly at the mercy of their owners with little protection from society, and more in line with the kind of slavery practiced in the rest of Africa.

http://www.reshafim.org.il/ad/egypt/timelines/topics/slavery.htm

[–]ghastlyactions -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What were the living conditions of Europeans who were taken as slaves by Africans (Barbary Coast, Algeria etc.)?

[–]RhllorTheLordOfLight 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

No one's asking you to take responsibility for something you didn't do, but for fuck sake, stop trying to make it out like it was everyone else's fault

[–]DarthLurker 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He didn't point out everyone else nor did he try to remove blame, he was quite specific in distributing the blame to people that had a major hand in slavery, people that both happen to be forgotten and happen to be black.

The reason this point is necessary to make is because a lot of black people place 100% of the blame on white people as a whole trying to make it an ongoing race issue.

While it is true that the majority of American slaves were black and owned by white men, it should also be pointed out that legal precendence for slavery in America was set by a black farmer, Anthony Johnson. In 1654 as he wanted to keep his black indentured servant beyond the initial term agreement, so he sued and won that court case. He was the first legal slave owner in America, it wasn't until 1670 that whites were granted the same right as Johnson.

[–]ghastlyactions 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Africans were taking European slaves at the same time, as well. Barbary Coast and Algeria mostly. Not nearly in the same numbers, but still.

[–]mdr1974 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

So you are saying that as long as you don't actually perform the act of capturing a person.. it is ok to own a person? Provided you buy that person from someone else (who presumably captured them).

It seems to me that you are saying that the people who owned slaves should incur any blame, and instead only the initial sellers....

That... well that is some interesting logic sir or madam...

[–]badluckdragon -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Should I blame every person who illegally downloaded music in the late 90's early 2000's or should I blame Napster for creating the structure?

[–]TheTreelo 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

A thread on racism in advice animals.

[–]alwaysupvoteTRUNKS 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Slavery continues in Africa and on virtually every continent in some form to this day.

Odds are, some of my ancestors were slaves in Europe somewhere along the line.

[–]YoureASoldierBodie 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Haha... Yes, turn Black History Month into an issue about how whites are the victims. Reddit strikes again.

[–]TheTreelo 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

http://imgur.com/eq6XQA2

[–]JaiOhBe 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Plus, he didn't even use the meme correctly. That's the worst part of it all!

[–]Godsownsin -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well, in many cases, we are. But we aren't allowed to talk about it, because we are "privleged". I just wish this issue would die already

[–]huskermdl 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

As long as people on both sides of the issue feel entitled for one reason or another, it will never die.

[–]pimpdawg2010 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

In what way are whites "victims" in this whole issue? Please explain that to me.

[–]Superschutte 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Where are you people that you feel like black people are demanding stuff from you?

Honestly, I don't get this "oh, poor me" white people stuff. I have never come across a black person who blamed me for anything and my family was big on the wrong side of the race war for far too long.

[–]LincolnHox 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

White privilege exists.

[–]RustCoIe 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

ITT: "Fuck whiny black people, fuck feminists and fuck SRS. White privilege doesn't exist and we're oppressed. But by the way, i'm not a bigot".

[–]mmacpuguy[S] -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What's SRS?

You're drawing lot of conclusions that aren't true. But that's none of my business (sip my tea)

[–]icetraigh 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Amen. I also love the fact that as a white male I'm blamed for slavery, but my ancestors never made it to the US until after the civil war. But then I guess I have some privileges or some such bullshit, so it balances out.

[–]koproller -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

some privileges
Yeah, sorry, you reddit fuckers are a bit disconnect, aren't you?

[–]icetraigh 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm a "reddit fucker?" In what insane world do you think that idiotic, ignorant bigotry is okay?

[–]Mute_Moth 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The Internet

[–]koproller -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you think, that we as white people just have a few privileges, then you are psychotic disconnected from reality.
It's absurd how different our lives are, just because our skin is a bit lighter

[–]koproller 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nobody died to end slavery.
People died to keep slavery and people died to keep the union together. But freeing slaves, wasn't on the "reasons to die" list.

-" "I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so." Abraham Lincoln
The only people who went to war for slaves, where to keep the right to keep slaves.
- "Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery — the greatest material interest of the world … a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization." documents of the Confederacy
- We hold as undeniable truths that the governments of the various States, and of the confederacy itself, were established exclusively by the white race, for themselves and their posterity; that the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this country be rendered beneficial or tolerable."
Face it. The people who died where either in favor of slavery, or in favor of the union. Nobody died to stop slavery.

And even of they did. It doesn't change anything about the horrors whe as a majority put minorities through. Now and then.

[–]Confused_Collective 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh, we gettin' controversial.

[–]bluemath 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Stop. No one is winning. Let's move forward and work together.

[–]Bananaboatsunshine 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

And many slaves were also white.

[–]mmacpuguy[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Really? Sauce?

[–]renegade1845 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

My family were the broke ass white farmers working right next to slaves

[–]Parictis -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Why so defensive?

[–]Godsownsin 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Because, As a white person, I get verbally abused about this all the time. Every time I get into an argument, or a disagreement with some one, I can guarantee they will pull this card if they are black.

I know this will catch a lot of downvotes, but I don't care. I have dealt with this many times, and the fact that you people down vote me just shows me you would do the same.

I have no White Guilt. We are all one race. Human.

If you pull any race card, I lose all respect for you. End of story

[–]Thugzz_Bunny 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

What do you mean, "YOU PEOPLE"!?

[–]koproller 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not minorities. We and our pitchforks fixed our minority problem on reddit a long time ago. We need a new minority.
What's your hair colour?

[–]msnrcn 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

We're not all walking around with laminated race cards in our socks, let's just be clear.

It's a fallacy to even take it there in a debate but some folks just stoop every time.

Doesn't make it okay, just don't confuse all of us for damn fools. Peace.

[–]Godsownsin 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why would you keep them in your socks? They aren't drugs

[–]mmacpuguy[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I'm not. Just saying that we're really in this together and have been for a long time.

[–]vendettaatreides -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Black people don't see it that way. They see it as an excuse to act like retarded children.

[–]koproller 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

they
Jezus. This thread is going to be horrible.

[–]msnrcn 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Blowing the canopy on this one in 3...2...1

[–]wpatter6 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Only the retarded ones

[–]huskermdl 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not saying it's ok, but it's not like we went over to Africa, hunted, and captured them. Slaves were sold to the colonies by native Africans. A lot were sent over on ships by England, but it's not the whole story, just the most well-known.

[–]wpatter6 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

How is black history month even still a thing? Seems like one of those archaic traditions that does nothing but perpetuate this tension between races. Why is it deemed "black history" and not just in the cannon of general "history"?

[–]Godsownsin -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If this post goes any higher, SRS is going to be all over it.

Soon you will have the femtards in here freaking the fuck out, because they will somehow sculpt this into them being oppressed.

This is going to be interesting

[–]Godsownsin -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, but our ancestors at some point did something bad to black people, so we must pay our reparations /s

[–]mrwalkersrestorative -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

...and they were called Democrats.