last thread hit bump limit: >>12969120thanks based anon for the OP pictureplay the game: http://www.nutaku.net/games/lord-of-valkyrie/play/english wiki: http://lord-of-valkyrie.wikia.com/wiki/Lord_of_Valkyrie_Wikijapanese wiki: http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/staff twitter: http://twitter.com/nutakugames/jp/ player list: http://pastebin.com/URgv8JPAnutakudev q&a from 2 threads back: http://pastebin.com/hmcSS7NBgrind table by an anon: http://imgur.com/y90G0cS
So to re-iterate my convention from the previous thread: I shall say "2S2M" for evolving R+ from [1,1] pairs and evolving R++ from [Max, Max].2S2M gets most of the mileage you'd get compared to 4M for half the EXP/Gila investment. I find it hard to justify going full 4M for most cards that (for current LoV content) are easy to obtain just by farming bosses.When starting out, 4S R++ (that is, don't feed at all until R++) from rank 8 basic dragons gets you good beatsticks (though Sophie's 20% initiative and 2 crit leaves one wanting). 2S2M the Valks you like that aren't top tier. Worth noting that 2M R+ is stronger than 4S R++ so you're not left helpless while heading towards a 4M R++.My research from 2 threads ago shows partially levelling a valk and then evolving has negligible effect on the final R++ state. If you have the copies, don't grind an R very far unless you intend to 4M.
Code for Gold Healer Iris in Aegisnnm2217407Grab it quick, code expires in like another day.
>>13014252I don't see aegis on nutaku
Gentlemen, I hereby thank you all for supporting me. I have finally unlocked Cecil scene. It was truly amazing for I have awakened to a new fetish. The dialogue and the back story. It made me cri evertiemBest Waifu 11/10 would Cecil again
>>13014398 >Waifu
>>13014409
>>13013833I have a max R+ Marin and Athena from two max bases. Still working on getting the second R+.
>>13014467Send a request to me, Schverika. I've just found a comrade who needs to be replaced for one too many missed bosses. It wouldn't be so bad if that guy had a rich comrade list but when I see his pal spend ~200 force on his boss and he doesn't kill it, I have no mercy.
>>13014783Perhaps I'm the wrong choice then, as I started the game yesterday.
>>13014797Then I shall leave it to Anons to send me a request. To whoever sends me that request: mention here so I know it's a /jp/ request. I'll be checking every 30 minutes or less for the next few hours.
>>13014228This 2S2M isn't the same thing as the 4B in the english wiki? http://lord-of-valkyrie.wikia.com/wiki/Valkyrie_Cards
>>13014841>http://lord-of-valkyrie.wikia.com/wiki/Valkyrie_CardsAh, that's what we were calling it. I never refer to the English wiki.
Fuck this bad connection.. sorry guys i had a glimmer timed out on me, arrived home and there was still 55secs so i rushed to finish him off but this conection... i won't bother with a boss if i wont be able to check every 5 minutes.. won't happen again
>>13015267I usually set an alarm 5-10 minutes prior to a boss timing out if I need to take a nap/sleep in the meantime. One time I had a bad connection going on after waking up, took me like 5 minutes to reboot, still had 3 minutes to spare. That was for a Dreadnought.Now, I have two people on my list who just let Dragons time out. There's practically no excuse for that considering their four-hour timers and low HP. I should drop them soon.
>>13014266Next Thursday Anon.
>>13015323I've set my phone up to be my backup in case my router dies on me. It too can fail but having an independent alternative gives peace of mind.Still, explaining yourself when it occasionally happens goes a very long way to keeping comrade confidence. The game gives you a message board to say these things, there's no excuse for not saying anything when it happens.
Who asklepios master race here?
Sometimes, bosses just keep showing up. I'm grinding Quest 1-1 and I've had 2 bosses show up now, practically back to back. I've already popped a force jewel and my 160 force bar is almost tapped out again.>>13015431It's a sad thing to see players who have lost trust. Guy spawns a neo, NOBODY TOUCHES IT THE WHOLE TIME.
>>13015460is it only me or does the Asklepios make you an unicorn with that yellow thing?
Just started yesterday after reading all the material. Seem to be doing well.Schedule is kinda wonky, but if anyone needs comrade spots filled, my IGN is Maruk.
>>13015588noticed that too xd
>>13015588showoff
>>13015587why would they keep him in the list if they wont touch his bosses? only sad thing is my wasted force cuz a guy can't just regularly took ss of his comrade list and clean the inactive ones
What was the thing we used at the start to evolve cards and can we get another? Is it like the Great books of earth/fire/etc?
>>13016077i'm assuming you mean the wildcard - yes, you should be able to get more in future patches but that's currently the only one you'll ever get
People still not finishing in less than 10mins even at 1% is going to give me heart attack
when nutaku releases Aigis, are we starting from the very beginning, or is the setup going to be like it is now, with the gold star tutorial glasses-girl recruit-able?I think she wasn't recruitable until after a few major updates.
>Not finishing glimmeru wot m8
>>13016984Probably from the beginning. honestly with how different aegis is I don't see any reason at all to switch unless there's some massive difference like how tickets in english is 8 but in jp it's 80.From what I've been playing there's no competitiveness to it and nothing that requires comrades. You can get everything done alone if your units are high enough level. So there's no real need for a clean slate.
I really hope the new Extreme Tier Dailies have better Fairy drop rates. Trying to save up enough Platinum Fairies for anything is suffering.
>>13016984>>13017182A better question is if Nutaku is planning to do any unit giveaways. Since they likely know that almost everyone has multiple Golds from Codes that are posted around.
If it says Fire50 it means I do 50%more damage against wind type right? But does that mean I do 50% less on water? How do I do with same element and earth which has no relation at all to the table?I'm starting to get some variety of cards so I'm focusing now on single element sets
>not killing 1% hp left neo dreadnought after I dumped all my force on itbismuth u better not hang out here
>>13018748It means 50% attack power before subtracting defence. Not sure if it's the reverse against water as there's never any reason to be caught off-guard. Same element has no effect.
>>13018973Well I need to find out elements since I'm still forming the sets and that might take a while so I'm trying to see if it's better to brute force with different element or use a weaker card but effective element
>>13018748>But does that mean I do 50% less on water?Based on my experience and the japanese wiki? No.Based on the Nutaku Q&A two threads ago? Yes.
>>13019106>Based on the Nutaku Q&A two threads ago? Yes.Oh and by yes, I didn't mean 50% less damage. They only said "Water bosses will suffer less damage from fire-centric equipment and cards."
>>13019120The lack of actual numbers might be difficult... But that should be enough confirmationSo yeah thanks!
>>13019120less than what? less than wind and water centric?they could have just meant less than earth
>>13019128I don't know man. I know the quote came from them, but I'll take it with a grain of salt until I see my damage actually reduced.At the moment, I use my two strongest cards (Earth and Ice) on any boss I slap and I don't see any damage reduction on Wind and Earth enemies. Just now I was hitting Neo Dreadnought (7000 defense) and my Water card (10157 attack, 9 balance) was dealing 2300-3800 attacks.10,157 attack 9 balance means her damage range should be 9242.87-11071.13Subtract 7000 defense to that and you'll get 2242.87-4071.13These numbers are without factoring elements. If some form of reduction exists, I should be dealing less damage than that.
>>13019106I've been doing some experiments last few days as well (after I saw nutaku dev's post) and I can confirm there's no damage reduction, u either deal neutral damage or bonus damage due to the type advantage
>>13019310>>13019329That's pretty cool! Thanks guys, that should be few things off my worries
I don't remember when I last PvP'd, I never have enough force these days.>>13019310>>13019329Good to know, thanks for the science. Now I don't have to worry about variety until new content brings specific-element-immunity bosses.
>>13019337u should only worry about getting a good weaponI attack players with ice sword in pvp without hesitate even if they are 80 lvl
>>13019431Yeah...I'm pretty unlucky with weapons on gold ticket lottery since I got an armor instead and stupidly wasted previous gold tickets with card lottery since I have no idea with everything back then. I just make do of whatever I get at least for now
newfag herewhat is the best right-hand weapon while i'm waiting for the golden ticket one?
>>13019710The one with the most attack.Be sure you save spare weapons with +5-+8 enchantments, so you can upgrade whatever gold right hand you gather.
>>13019781currently I'm using ice sword 7+ but i wonder if there is another +7 one could do more damage (paladin sword, hero sword for example...)
>>13019833No, those elemental weapons are gonna last you till you find a item lottery weapon, most likely.Although I got a hygaias cup from the item lottery which meant I had to use a magic staff to benefit from the huge boost of magic attack.
>>13019930To add to that question, are the Paladin/Divine/Hero items any good (or worth upgrading), or should I just move on?
>>13020024It's not hard to get enchant fodder for your item lottery weapon once you get it, so go ahead and pump it up some.
>>13020052Gotcha, level my divine robe until I either find elemental armor or get item armor, then roll it into those.
So, I'm making a 2M R+ Fire Flare. Since it's such a rare occasion, I decided to count how many Lv1 C fodder I fed her. 42 of them later, she's already better than her Lv 45 R form. To make up for the loss of one fire body, I prepared a 4S Heidi in advance. Not going to even push Heidi beyond Lv 21, she's filler until I get some Hana.
Welp game over.
>>13024237GratzHow many tries until you got it?
>>13024512I've been playing since release day, so quite some time.....Just in time for me to start Aegis in a few days.
>>13024237welcome, my child
Speaking of Aegis, what day did they tell us it would come out this time? I was last time I heard it was last week.
>>13024637Thursday, apparently. inb4 delayed.
>>13024667I fully expect a delay.
>>13024237I have no luck with the item lottery, 2 hygaias cups, 1 defector, 1 dark shield and 1 euros.All I want is a weapon. I guess I'll be trying again in another 5 days time.
>>13024679I have the winstick and the panacea robe. All I need is the cup and I'm pretty much at max overpowered levels.
that moment when I lost to my alt which has worse gear
>>13024847You weren't lucky enough to use a single skill is why.
>>13024847Lel, did you just get my luck? Of having always NO Valks using skill most of the time. RNG gods hate me and they're following me from other games
Question! If a card is lvl 20 then I use it to evolve, is the 5% inherit comes from it's lvl 20 stats or from it's base lvl 1 stats?
>>13025108it come from the lvl 20
>>13025110Ok thanks!
What's with the silver dragon only getting 15 mins to defeat it?Does it have some amazing reward if you do so?
>>13025203not really
>mfw every single idoneus i help kill gives me bars and not waifus
so once you reach 30 login days ,you don't get any more daily rewards? I didn't even get lottery points this time.
>>13025338That was the first 30 days login, that won't appear anymore.You still get random daily rewards, and some login proofs every 5 days.There may also be new, if shorter, seperate login cards that appear for events.
>>13025338Hmm? No you still get the random daily rewards. It's why I'm hoping to eventually land a 4th Fire Flare. If I become desperate, I can use lottery miles to prepare my 4M but I don't want to waste that. Teresa at least is a guaranteed quest drop from Quest 25 onwards according to Japanese wiki.Woah, Quest 21-2 will be awesome, I need to hurry there now.>>13025299According to Japanese wiki, once people get to Quest 33, we'll see Neo Ideoneus with a longer list of waifus to drop. Not sure if he'd still be giving you bars as often then.
Still looking for more comrades. "lolikong".I try to stay quite active.
>>13025044i know that feel bro.. struggled so hard in matches because theirs would instantaniously use skills in chain reaction and then.. then mine.. normal att until i die..>>13025203Dont waste force in that, and don't bother inviting others, just let it despawn safely>>13025457you can send me a request, i'll just delete a non-jp comradeIGN: Blaxer
So my Idoneus is at 1 HP and has 01:40:00 time left. Waiting for my force to refill more before I kill him. Sure I can kill him right away, but I want to be ready in case 3 dreads show up at once or something.I guess that's why I should keep raising Stamina as well as force. Really helps having more buffer while waiting for a quiet period when my force recovers.
Damn it's been a busy 24hr for support work...multiple pandas, handful of idoneus, a couple dreads, a neo, gld dragon, and a blk dragon (that wasn't killed). Out of everything ... I only got one Sandra, a couple books....the rest...copper bars!
I've been getting a bit more quality support work as of recent, and I'm about to start spawning pandas and idons. I'm at 166 stamina and 85 force. You guys think I should start dumping everything in force for a bit, or keep stamina/force imput about even ?
>>13026129I just spawned my first ideoneus and I'm at 64 charisma, 90 stamina and 70 force. Thats not including the +30 comrade bonus. I'd say your stamina is fine where it is.
>>13026129High stamina over force is useful when you don't log in for most of the day. High force over stamina is useful if you do. Though either way, your force looks pretty low now that you're calling in pandas.
>>130255905 pandas & dreads in total, plus glimmers... time to crack a force jewel so I can slap everything. Good thing I didn't spawn my own boss when I burnt through my stamina.
>>13026585>>13026445Thats a solid copy.....Will throw everything at force for a bit. thanks.
I got an openingsend request to Amidamaru
Dear Valkyrie diary,Today I came home from work and killed two more Dreadnoughts. I still didn't get a fucking Hana, just more fucking books. Why do you hate me? Fuck you, game.Also I maxed out two base Deltas and evolved her. Because why the fuck not.
Holy fuck 45 force for every slap to the black dragon.. yes it's my first.
>>13027060She really must have a low drop rate. I've slapped so many dreads and I've only obtained 1 of her. Thankfully, I have so many fire girls to grind up I'm not so concerned about the wait.
>>13027115Reaper Girl Mabel doesn't seem to drop all that often either, but I have three of her, somehow.
>>13027060Silly Delta, who wouldn't fuck a femrobot?
>>13027211Delta has one of the best H scenes hands down.
>>13027147I know, I haven't gotten any of her. But since she's basically a superior Sophie (low init, high burst damage), I'm satisfied with my 4 Marsha copies (which too took time).But really, I'm happy with books right now - have so many girls wanting them.>>13027236No disagreement. I want to 4M her event cards so I can fuck her again.
>>13027236So I've heard, but I don't want to evolve my Deltas right away since, besides quests 17-20, the only other way to get her right now is the regular lottery, and that's a crapshoot.Even though Delta being one of the best UCs doesn't amount to much in the grand scheme of things, I'm autistic enough to keep the cards of the girls I like around, even if they're deadbeat in battle. That's how I roll.
>>13027289I didn't really 4max delta because at that point I had 2 SRs and a 4 max R. Mildly regret it now but oh well.
>>13027266I like Mabel for being the only SR that doesn't have huge jugs (I think?). I'm close to maxing one of them, so hopefully I'll get the fourth Mabel by the time I finish maxing a Mabel+ or something.Meanwhile, I'm sitting on 20+ fire books waiting for a Hana to spend them on.
>>13027289I can respect that. I will go to great lengths to get a 4M alt-Delta once an event comes up.>>13027309This too I can respect. Personally, Teresa is filling in for me there. Though it's a little depressing to see General of Fire Flare overtake her on skill damage. But I have to remind myself: Teresa is Wind type.Damn, there are SRs who burn 500+ MP per skill proc later on. Now that's real burst damage.
>>13027373I have a Teresa+ maxed as well, but damn, she's weak. I also don't have any other Teresas left anyway, so I'll have to bump her off for Mabel now.
>>13027391Yeah, even knowing she's an EXP trap (a 'Jeigan' in Fire Emblem terms), I must 4M her. But I respect your decision to feed her to Mabel. You'll get 4 Teresa in future quests once new content shows up.
I'm almost halfway to having all the elemental gear so far. Thank you for the fire mail everyone.On another note, I wish I could trade cards - I have a Hana surplus and would like to help those here.
>>13027060>>13027115I got a Hana the same day I got the SR from 30 days, and got Heide that day too. Two of these are cards I actually really wanted.But guess what I also did that day? Max my second Luca. So I now have a 2max Luca+ that's hitting 9k skill at only level 17, when both the SR's at max are the upper 9000s. The game knows what you want and will only give it to you when it's the least useful.
>>13027060I know that feel. I've been looking for Hana and Mabel since forever.Come on /jp/ magic
Does anyone knows how much increase in stats are there per level?
>>13029859For weapon enhancement there is a 5% gain per level, as stated in the game menu guide. Other equipment is slightly different
>>13029937Oops I mean cards
>>13029957Differs by Valkyrie, but in general it's "some % of the Lv 1 stat of your card". If you want an idea of what it all looks like, here's a table I made 2 threads ago for Athena/Marin. I'll explain more if you want.
>>13030025I tried leveling up some Cs and it seems that they get around 3 to 4.2%. Maybe the card rarity has a certain effect to the increase? I tried it on corps officer and aion and the difference in increase between them is huge. Maybe the card rarity or some other factors affect the percentage but I'm not sure what would they be for UCs and aboveYet on a level 13 Aion it only gets 1258 attack instead of 1362 if I follow the increase from lvl 2 so there's some sort of diminishing returnsDid you manage to record their stats per level? And that kinda sucks that even Rs don't get 5% increase
>>13030025they're only half as good at the start as the guy twice as far above them, but they end up some random distance away at the bottom.4c0n9
>>13030133not to mention you're comparing magic to valkyries>what could you possibly know of them?
>>13030133>>13030161
>tfw no one is awake to help kill your glimmer
>>13030170i'm still awakename?
I got Haunted Soul+15, Eurus+5 and Defector+5 from lottery... Suddenly matches became much easier to win.
>>13030195delay expected.
I have been doing item gold lottery with 15 different characters and I have finally realized I will never get asklepios staff. Should I just do card lottery on my main? How are my chances there with good SR cards?
>>13030248thats the worst gold lottery set tho see u in few ranks
>>13030515No, do not ever in any circumstance do card lotto, it's a flat out waste. Just keep rolling the winstick lotto.
I already have Asklepios, so I've been going back to card lottery. It's gotten me a Homura and Yukina, so I can't complain much.Still no fucking Hana though.
>>13030545Do you have the cup and robe too?
>>13030550Nope.I've already maxed out my PVP rank though, so there's no rush for those.Again, Hana is my priority since my inventory is stuffed with fire books.
>>13030558I'd give you one of the 7 spare Hanas I have just setting here if I could.
>>13030118Individuality, if I go by the Japanese wiki. Just as each unit has its own base stat, it also has its own growth rate.>>13030515If you have a weapon from the lottery at all, then it's a fair decision to not keep grinding that item lottery.You may want to save up for events though. Sure the card lotto can get you premium SRs who can 4M penetrate Lv 80 (not sure how that works). But getting SSR from events is a viable alternative for Valks who hit really hard. Some of us are just stockpiling login proofs to see what exactly events want from us.
>>13030616My guess on events is it's going to be a special map that spawns a special megaboss that drops event specific stuff, seems logical but who knows. We don't have any planned events for another month at least.
>>13030616>>13030623havent the japanese people been getting events? We should know exactly what kind of event we will get? I don't understand this just in case login proofs saving. Do they know for sure that they will need that much force recovery jewels?
>>13030712No clue, I've asked a few times in the threads if anyone knew how the events worked but have yet to get a response. I only came to this conclusion on how events might work considering how the game plays without anything going on.
>>13030712>>13030712>>13030721Ok let's do this. Here's the Japanese wiki page on the current events: http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%a5%a4%a5%d9%a5%f3%a5%c8I'm seeing words for "login bonus" (ログインボーナス), "mega boss" (大ボス), "quest" (クエスト), "dungeon" (ダンジョン) and "lottery" (ガチャ). Looks like we're getting everything on events. Oh and "buy with points" sets too (セット販売), i.e. avenues to dump gold.Here's a look at a quest (yes there's more than one) from the latest event: http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%cc%b8%b3%a4%a4%ce%bf%b915 stages, each costing 5~6 stamina per step and needing 21~30 steps to clear. Very notable loot drops: +15 equipment fodder and elemental books.Event mega bosses: http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%b4%fc%b4%d6%b8%c2%c4%ea%c2%e7%a5%dc%a5%b9The latest one happens to only drop crafting mats, but previous ones dropped books and an SR. Different tiers of difficulty depending on where you are in the main storyline.So what are dungeons? I'll leave that to someone who has actually played the Japanese version. From what I can gather, you send a team of 3 valks off for X hours and they come back with some loot (depending on success) and gain EXP. Sounds like KanColle expeditions.
Apologize if this is a stupid question, but I could not find an answer in the wiki.
>>13031651For some some reason, I accidentally posted too early. Apologize yet again.I just got a book of water -- I assume these are for combining with that certain element type valkyrie?Should I use it on an UC valkyrie, or is it better to save it?
>>13031655Wait till you pick up a SR unit, you should get one at the end of your 30 day login card.
>>13031655you'll get plenty but no, i wouldn't ever waste it on an UC, wait till you get at least a R
>>13032037By same logic, I suppose it's a waste of level UCs too?
>>13032071can't apply the same logic since C combining fodder is much easier to get than books
>>13032180Alright.After I got my Haunted Soul+15, it seems I get more damage (on megabosses) by removing all my valkyries in my deck. My weapon deals ~9000 damage, whereas my valks are about 2000.I suppose I should just stay this way, until I get a good enough valk? (Either by lvl or finding)
>>13032191your character always attacks 3 times each time you fight a boss.Your units do 2 hits each, one standard, one magical.Unless all of your units do no damage to the boss, it's better to have them in your group.
>>13032191No, that's just natural damage variation due to the Balance stat on your character. Valks do not subtract from your damage since you always get 3 swings yourself and each valk swings twice.Now, Valks doing far less damage than your own swings - that's perfectly normal with an item lottery weapon. It's why it's a ritual of entry to get one. Go slap some rank 8+ bosses with that weapon and you'll soon have an R to begin levelling. I'm assuming you have comrades who spawn those bosses.
>>13032375Yeah
>>13032282> Your units do 2 hits each, one standard, one magical.Actually, whether they use their skill or not depends on their Initiative stat. Also, it's not good to call skill damage "magical" as later bosses (in future content) care about physical vs magical damage sources.
>>13032375>>13032379Sorry, for some reason my mind and hands are not working together today.Yeah, I have 14 comrades, still looking for more. I sometimes just add those I meet in matches, but they don't seem to accept.Last question - Is there a place where I can see the base stats of all items? Currently, I have Eurus +7 as my left, but I also have Paladin Shield which seems pretty decent, considering it is lacking +7 enchantment levels.>>13032386I read that in the game guide, but thank you nevertheless.
>>13032393You should be upgrading anything and everything but copper,silver and gold bars, upgrade whatever's strongest then by the time its +7 you'll see the difference. However the euros has attack added so you should keep it so long as you use a physical weapon
>>13032459Alright.Is it worth keeping elemental armor/weapons ready? I suppose it will be worth it later on, but I don't know if there is stronger versions of that element in terms of other gear.(Ice Sword, Earth Garment, Fire Mail)
>>13032459Upgrading a silver bar to +2 nets you 1700G profit: in goes 3 pot lids, out comes +10% sell value.>>13032473If you have a +15 item lottery weapon, there's no point keeping elemental weapons on hand. Elemental armour and off-hand makes your weapon that much better when exploiting weakness. No need to actually upgrade them however, as you'll never wear them for PvP and defence doesn't matter against mega bosses. That way when a stronger version of that element shows up, you have nothing holding you back from upgrading.
>>13032393Send a request to me, Schverika and confirm your name here so I know it's from /jp/. I've just found someone who needs to be replaced.
>>13032536>SchverikaMy name is "lolikong", sent request.
Why are there no rank 11 or 12 megabosses, they just skip from 10 (pandeons) to 13(gold dragons)?
Aegis is apparently launching 8am GMT for those of you who want to get in early to grab names and such. https://twitter.com/nutakugames/status/565160874206584832
>>13032393All the basic stats are up on the wiki..The equipment page is kinda hidden though. http://lord-of-valkyrie.wikia.com/wiki/Equipment
MFW Japanese wiki tells me Naga is just as good as Hana as far as raw numbers are concerned.>>13032546Approved. Yeah, I found a non-/jp/ comrade hitting his own boss 3 times before calling for help. I can understand accidentally hitting twice due to a mis-click occasionally. But not thrice.As a heads-up, anything below a Pandeon that I spawn tends to get down to 1HP pretty fast and I see that a lot with spawns of my comrades. In other words, you have minutes to get your assist hits in. I also find there's too much to assist on to call for help on my own rank 8 dragons most of the time.>>13032676Just happens to be that way. Japanese wiki confirms the absence of rank 11 and 12.>>13032688Oh that IS good news.
So....I went on an Asklepios hunt today to no avail....booooo.... I did pick up a +20 Panacea robe, +5 Garuda's wing, and +5 Dark blade though. At least it wasn't a complete disappointment
>>13032826To be fair, Naga (and also Luka) are top grade rares and heavily prioritise their skill damage in order to compete even with many SRs, while maintaining a really good procc rate. The advantage of Hana (and the other low-skill damage SRs) over skill centered rares is, that Hana actually has a decent attack value. If you create something like a 2S2M Hana++, she will hit current bosses for several thousand, even on normal attacks, while Luka and Naga are limited to dealing damage almost exclusively through their skill proccs. This advantage will vanish once we have bosses that have around 12k+ defense, so Hana is not a long term investment and I probably wouldn't 4M her, but for now, I would totally pick a 2S2M Hana over levelling a 2S2M Naga.The more important problem is imho not the comparison to Rs, but to other SRs, especially considering she's among the rarest current bossdrops together with Mabel, who clearly outclasses Hana. But at the end of the day, we all know why we want a Hana, and it was never about stats to begin with. Not for me anyway.
>>13033048You got one of the op 3 +20 items, be happy about that at least.
>>13033064Pink hair for life.
>>13033064Aye, if it was just about stats I'd be trying to score some Erika from card lotto and hoping 限界突破 comes to us sooner rather than later.> But at the end of the day, we all know why we want a Hana, and it was never about stats to begin with.I'm currently re-levelling Athena to get a proper 2S2M version of her (though priority to a 2S2M Sandra first). There are better choices available to me but screw optimisation, I need an Athena I can be proud of.
>>13033064Good post...I have a Lv31 Hana. She's at 4125/7097I started leveling her because she was one of the first 2 Sr's that I got. Recently Iv'e been trying to figure out what I want to do with her. Realistically, I doubt I will come across 3 more anytime soon. I figured I would keep going and max her, but after that I'm undecided. I also have a Lv41 HD7. Im sitting on 400 lottery miles, and I'm trying to figure out If I want to go with another Hana or HD7, or...someone else. I'm about to get my Riza from the 30 day, so thats also an option. What do you guys think would be most beneficial?
>>13033270HD7 if you ask me. Because Wind type - from what I can infer of Japanese wiki, it's the master element. Nothing is immune to it, lots of things are vulnerable to it.
I just saw a level 98 on pvp. And I thought level 80 was the max for some reason
>come home from work>see Dreadnought at 40% and 20 mins left>dump half of my force into it>1%>boss times outTeleo, I am disappoint.
>>13033270I'd save the miles. A single HD7 doesn't really do much. Even if you get her to max level, she wouldn't even reach past 10k skill dmg. Evolved Rs like Naga, which are quite easy to get, easily outclass unevolved SRs. I would use the miles on a card you already have, if you want to evolve them. Being able to freely choose a card becomes more valuable when you know which cards you need, since you don't really know yet if the lottery will be kind enough to give you more HD7s.
>>13033302Ya.....that happened to me last night with a Neo....I was so happy!!!!....Then so sad..
>>13033270Also, forgot to add: If you like Hana and want to use her, getting another one would be a viable choice as well, since you have enough to at least get a Hana+. In that case, I would only evolve them once both are max level, since you don't know when (or if) you get another 2 copies of her, so you'd want your Hana+ to be strong. 2S2M is only really good imho if you already have 4 copies of the card, since the intermediate stage of instantly evolved + cards is horrible.
>>13033364He already has one HD7, a 2M SR+ HD7 would hit hard (17k on skill proc). Worth it even if he never sees more.
>>13033292>>13033364Thanks. So I guess either go with another HD7, or just wait until I need a 4th of someone...So I guess the question is if a maxed HD7+ would be worth it. Ya, I actually have to re-do Naga. ...I originally thought that all my R's would be replaced by SR's, so I decided not to waste time leveling her before evolving to ++...And got rid of all my extras. I am properly working on 2S2M Luca and Olga though
>>13033437you read my mind...thanks
>>13033437Woops, I somehow missed that. In that case, yes, both are viable choices with HD7 being the stronger pick in terms of stats. With HD7, I'd still recommend the same thing I did with Hana: Get it if you like her and want to use her. Picking the 2nd copy for a 2M Hana or HD is something you can do to make them viable if you want them on your team.In terms of stats, probably the better choice compared to both of them would be a simple 2S2M rare card like Naga or Luka while saving the lottery miles.
If I read the Japanese wiki right, the latest event (or a recent one anyway) has lottery that takes 3 gold per spin and rewards you with 100 miles.
>>13033437>>13033489Thanks for the good input guys...I will think about it while I finish maxing my first HD7....
>>13033302My bad, was playing HOTS.Honestly I'm too lazy to keep track of my bosses, so I try to avoid calling for help now and just dump damage into other peoples bosses.
>the best guy on my comrade list spawns dreadnaughts and idoneuses>i dump all my force into them>he NEVER kills them when they're at 1%why
>>13033559Just don't attack his shit or better yet just boot him for someone else.
>>13033605he has an asklepios and he contributes to my bosses often, he just never kills his own. it's frustrating.
>>13033631Ah, well just let him help kill your stuff but don't waste your force on his until he starts to kill stuff.
Is there a pvp rank above 9?
>>13033676not right now no.
>>13033631You can do better than that. Once you have a high octane comrade list, pandas and below go down in 5~30 minutes. Keep him around until then but know you can massage your list to not need him.On that note, next month I'll have 2 weeks of reduced activity as I can't login nearly as reliably while on holiday. I wonder how many people will kick me. Well, comrades can be rebuilt once I'm back, I just hope I don't lose my continuous login (I doubt it, but I'd better take precautions).
>>13033691>just wasted tons of force getting wins to rank upfuuuuuuuuuuuck
Just got home, nothing but small fry up so I hit a couple. Spawn a lv8 dragon, finish it. See another dragon up, take pity on the guy and smash it <1 with 2 shots..... Panda and Idon appear. Have only enough for two shots. Idon i can do in 1 fine. I get no skill proc on the panda and get 38k, 9 force left... back to town, Panda is dead. FUCK
>>13035694Yeahhhh, there's a reason why I'm hesitant to call for help on my own bosses unless I'm near full force (or want to go to sleep soon). I just know 3 dreads will show up out of nowhere.I'll soon be spawning my own dreads so I've been wondering: what's our stance on black/gold dragons? Given dreads and neos get you the same loot, do we care about hitting them? The elemental weakness makes it much easier to get the assist on dreads/neos.
>>13035742I don't mind them. They have a lot less HP than dreads, so they're cool in my book.
>>13035742Ya, as soon as it all happened I was kicking myself for not planning it all better. I should have let my force regenerate for a bit before finishing off my dragon...I should have known better. You see....I've already moved passed the anger stage and moved on to self loathing and ya..... black dragons can eat a dick in my opinion
>>13035783haha...you Sr, must be able to handle them a lot better than me.... I'll take my elemental advantage
it begins
>Fighting with monsters is performed automatically.>Fighting with other players is performed automatically.So what exactly is there to do in this thing?
>>13036903Resource management, time management, people management.
>>13036903fap
>>13036869What a coincidence, I've just evolved my 2S2M Sandra too. Time to grind Quest 1-1 again.
nutaku down?
May I ask what 2S2M and 4S4M means?
>>13036995refer to the first post in this thread
>>13036987so i generally grind on 1-3 and 1-4. I have seen before people saying 1-1 is best...does the 1st/2nd item spot really give better percentages than the 2nd/3rd spots found in 1-3,1-4? I feel like i end up with about the same amount of pot lids in a grind session of 1-1 and 1-3. I would just rather have the wind and fire cards instead of the water
yay more login proofs!... lets have some /jp/ luck! Lotto time!
>>13036994Logged in fine just now.>>13036995Different levels of grind before reaching final evolution. Say you have 4 copies of an R Valkyrie:- 4S means evolving straight to R++ without feeding any EXP to them.- 4M means grinding all of them to Lv MAX; evolving them; grinding both the R+ forms to Lv Max; then evolving to get your R++.- 2S2M (aka 4B) is the hybrid approach: evolve to R+ without feeding EXP, then grind both R+ to Lv MAX before making your R++.4S is to get a quick beatstick when you're just starting out. Make a few 4S UC++, slap some rank 8 dragons, make a 4S R++ and you're reliable boss assistance even if you don't have the luck to get an item lottery weapon.2S2M is the most cost effective for getting excellent fighters.4M is reserved for the very best and your favourite girls.Oh and 2M is for an R+ made from two Lv MAX R cards. A 2M R+ is stronger than a 4S R++ but weaker than 2S2M R++.>>13037069Right now, I actually do need a lot of water. I also need a hella lot of fire too but I'm prioritising water since I have a 2M R+ General of Fire Flare.
>>13037119I suppose that grinding 2x UC's to max level before evolving is not something that is worth doing then? Currently got one Lv. 24 Elle (UC), and another Lv. 4.I only have 2 R's, both are different. However, I think I'll go the 2S2M route for now.
>>13037128Stats-wise, maxing out UCs doesn't make sense. But if there's a UC girl you really like, people will understand if you 4M her (e.g. Delta).
>>13037152Alright, thanks for the answers.May I also ask -- how many h-scenes is there? I'd like to try evolving every card, but figured out that it'd only be a hassle. I was a bit disappointed that my UC trap didn't have a h-scene.
>>13037158Every non-C card has an H-scene. It's only at the ++ stage that you get an H-scene. Seeing every UC++ H-scene is easy. Most R++ should be easy too. But some SRs are card lottery exclusive.
you think Rina is worth 2S2M?
>>13037194Here's her page on the Japanese wiki: http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%c0%ef%be%ec%a4%cb%ba%e9%a4%af%b2%da%a5%ea%a5%ca2S2M Rina will get you 7739 normal and 18076 skill stat. 2S2M Sandra will hit slightly harder (and proc skill a lot more often). Having both Rina and Sandra in your Earth party for the sake of variety isn't bad.
>>13037194Not really worth it in terms of stats imho, there's far better options available by that point.>>13037295I agree, I'd rather have variety rather than 3 copies of the strongest choice, but I'm not sure whether an "Earth party" is worth it right now to begin with. Any 2S2M card will easily take care of any Idoneous, regardless of weakness, and the next time a boss with weakness earth comes up, he will already have 18k defense, which is so high that I wouldn't wanna field a Rina against it either way. Wind is probably the higher priority for an elemental party right now, since most bosses starting quest 25+ seem to be weak to wind.
>>13037495Good point, while there are event bosses who may have Earth vulnerability sooner than that, it's best to prepare for the known cases over the unknown. Especially considering this "滅びた機械兵I式" pair of bosses starting from Quest 25: they are the first physical-immune & magical-immune (Askelopis gets a middle finger) bosses, with an assist threshold of 350k... and both are vulnerable to wind (with 15k defence). That puts a really huge demand on every wind Valkyrie we can get our hands on right now.Ah man, "地炎金剛像" also shows up at Quest 25: fire-immune, ice-immune, neutral-immune, 20k defence, 250k assist threshold... and wind vulnerable.I need to assemble 4 Sophies again. Grinding them up won't be hard once events and dungeons roll around, but I need the raw materials.
>>13037295>>13037495>>13037751 I love it guys...keep talking...great info. I guess I've just been focusing more on building all the different elemental sets give what I get....and trying not to make some of the initial mistakes I committed originally like 4s-ing cards like naga, luca, and sophie....and using extras as fodder! FUCK....i gotta get some more nagas. Out of the current Rs I'm definitely planning making 2S2M versions of luca, naga, and olga...and maybe blue shil if I can get 2 more.For Srs, the only one on my radar for the task is sandra, as I haven't received any others from drops yet. I will soon be working a 2M HD7...so I will make a 4M version given the opportunity. Who else should I target going forward?...and I guess I will start collecting sophies again too.
>>13037751>>13037495oh ya...forgot to add... My Dominion Zephyr and Panacea robe love to hear the news about wind going forward.
>>13037751Correction: 地炎金剛像 is earth-immune, not ice-immune. Furthermore, the only ice-immune boss starts at Quest 40. The only other fire-immune boss starts at Quest 41.>>13037834I was originally planning to 4M Luca but seeing as a fire-immune thing shows up already at Quest 25, it's time to downgrade her to 2S2M.Olga is basically a watered down version of Sandra. I have a 4S Olga to act as filler, I should replace her with my 2S2M maxed out Marin (hitting twice as hard trumps the lack of elemental weakness).Looking at future quests, it seems 9 stamina per step is the maximum (aside from a couple 10s). Quest 18 and 21 are the high points (9 stamina, get Lv8 C fodder). In particular, Quest 21-2 gives fire, wind, wind as the drops.Means I'm happy to stay at 135 max stamina for a long time.> Who else should I target going forward?Consider Sharo. Crits ignore defence. Sharo has 20% chance to crit. She also has big skill damage. If only her skill proc rate was higher than 20%...I've looked through the R and SR list on the Japanese wiki. I can't find any girls who have better crit than Sharo that we have right now - except for Erika who is a card lotto exclusive (wind) SR.On the note of event-exclusive cards... this is superior Hana: http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%c7%fa%ce%f6%c2%ce%b0%e9%b2%f1%b7%cf%a5%cf%a5%ca31% skill proc, 35 crit and at 4M she has 21k NORMAL and 32k skill damage.And this is alt-Luca: http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%b1%eb%cf%b5%be%ee%a5%ea%a5%e5%a5%ab50% skill proc, 36k skill damage at 4M maxed. Yes she's an SR when you get her on the "date lottery".
>>13036869>>13036987i just finished mine earlier todaygratz to both of youalso i want to ask you guys something (general)i went through 500+ stamina so far (multiple runs) and i haven't spawned a single boss yet.. is this just me? has it happened to you before?thx in advance
>>13037971200 I could understand, but 500 is some astounding anti-luck.>>13037834Shil is a quest reward from Quest 21 onwards.
About 12 hours left until Aigis.Gonna leave some infodumps here and hope people can add anything for first-timers like myself.http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=24452http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showpost.php...postcount=3643
>>13037971Let's see....I don't have exact numbers, but suppose you're expected to find on average 1 boss every 100 stamina. The smallest unit of stamina is 1 stamina, so the average number of bosses for 1 stamina (0.01) must also be equal to the chance of encountering a boss with 1 stamina (1%), because you can't encounter more than 1 boss on the smallest step. We can use this as the basis for our calculation.So the chance of not encountering the boss after 500 stamina is roughly 0.99^500=0.65...%.This is expected to occur about once every 152 times someone spends 500 stamina, and since we're quite a few people in this thread, it's bound to happen to someone here like once every 1-2 weeks.Just a rough calculation to give you an idea of the scale, I don't have the exact numbers but they shouldn't deviate too far off.
>>13037962Thanks...ya I have a 4S sharo, with 2 more individuals in storage...I'll definitely hang on to those.I have (2) 2S Marins in the hold that I havent made a decision about either.As far as new Srs that I come across...would the best strategy be to just hold on to them, not pouring any exp in, while waiting to see if I eventually get 4? Since this morning, I used login miles in card lottery, and got really lucky as far as getting 3 Srs...in only 4 spins! I got Hana...which now gives me 2.. the other is at Lv31, Rebecca, and Homura. I know i should get more rebecca from drops, so I don't mind waiting on her. But it seems such a shame to just bank Homura, never knowing if I will get more...
>>13038222If you like a Valk, pump her up. In particular, Homura is a card lottery exclusive unit. I don't know what the "penetrate Lv80" stat is on the Japanese wiki but only the (non-event) card lottery exclusive girls get it. Max her out at some point.
About to level up. Look around for bosses to dump force on. Find just one dread - shove all my force on it.Recharge force from level up. Look again.- 2 gold dragons- 3 dreads- 2 neo dreads- 1 IdeoneusI'm scared what would happen if my comrade list was full of high level players.
where is the best gila/stamina place to grind? I've wasted over a million gila in about 2 days grinding 1-1
>>13038455Quest 7-3 (Temple of Water Spirits). Everything there is worth 900 gold when sold.Though the ideal way to make money while grinding 1-1 is to slap Idoneus and get silver bars. Pump the silver bars with pot lids to +2 (or +3 if you're flooded).
>>13038479i'm already slapping every mega boss that my comrades spawn, but the bars don't nearly keep up with my gila consumption
how many of all y'all are gonna ditch this game for aigis?
>>13038455Instead of grinding 1-1 for exp and then grinding somewhere else for gold, I personally just grind something like 21-2 (the stage with 3 lvl 8 drops) for a more money efficient source of exp. It's roughly half as good as 1-1 in terms of exp per stamina, but at about a fifth of the gold cost. I'm levelling a level 26 Rebecca right now, and feeding 5 lvl1 cards to her would cost 7500, while feeding a single lvl 8 card only costs 1500, so I'm effectively gaining 6k gila for time I do 21-2 instead of 1-1.
>>13038245 good to know. thanks.
Reminder Aegis is SUPPOSED to launch in 7 hours, but seeing it's delays thus far it's probably going to be a little later.
>>13038492Ditch? Why would I ditch when this game is so easy to multitask things with?>>13038483As Flocci points out, there comes a point where it's inefficient to feed with 1-1. My personal threshold is Lv 30 - above that I will not use Lv 1 C fodder until the Valk is one level off maxing.
>>13037971status update: finaly got 1 boss to spawn near the 650 marka silver dragon... but still.
Does it make sense to just fuse R and below girls to ++ status the first time around, then wait until you get a max lvl. fusion afterward?
>>13039002UC girls yes. R... depends on which ones. The ones you get for slapping rank 8 dragons? Sure, since you can easily find more copies of them.
>>13038532thanks; that's a good idea, although the cards there are the wrong types for the valks i'm trying to train (in particular, I am not working on any fire type right now).The other thing is that I think it's less efficient than you think it is, in terms of exp/stamina, although the gila gains might be worth it. Assuming you're only combining cards of the same color, and assuming that each quest reward has about a 1/3 chance of being awarded, 1-1 gives you 4 exp per 9 stamina, whereas 21-2 gives you 5 exp per 27 stamina. Thus, 1-1 is closer to 3x better than 21-2. Also, each card from 1-1 gives you 2exp, whereas each card from 21-2 gives you 5, which is about 2.5x savings in terms of gold, not 5x. If you're not picky with your types, 21-2 becomes a bit better relative to 1-1, but you're also just wasting a ton of free exp which is awful regardless.Interestingly, 21-2 with the wrong types works out to be better than 19-5 (which has three level 4 rewards) with the right types in terms of exp/stamina, albeit only slightly. That was pretty surprising to me.
Aegis in 17 mins!
>>13039976Hopefully.
Aegis is up
Oh wow this looks similiar to jp.
>>13039655It's 6 exp not 5 if you factor in 18-3 and 18-5 providing you with whatever element you need.But in the end, event quests will be showering us with books.
Looks like no delays.
>>13040032Wow no kidding.
>Give archer flowers>Proceed to fuckThis game.
Anyone finding Aigis incredibly laggy?
>>13040063No problems here, at least not yet.
>>13040051>Suddenly Anna brings up flowersThanks for the spoilers, jackass.
>>13040070It's 3 minutes into the game, if that is a spoiler I should tell you how everything dies later.
couldn't load the damn game
>>13040089The same
>>13039655Type is not much of an issue when using higher value cards, since the type bonus is just a single point of experience. Nice to have, but it becomes less and less relevant for stronger cards. For example, even a water based valk is probably better off farming a stage with 3 non-water lvl 8 drops rather than a stage with 2 water lvl 8 drops and a useless item.I included types in my calculation in the sense that I expected 1 of the 2 drops to be same type , the other to be cross type. I don't really like maxing out 2 different valks simultaneously. I do sometimes start off levelling 2 valks in 1-1 till level 20-ish, if they have the right colour combination for that, but then start concentrating on finishing one of them. That's why, for the concentrated levelling part, I calculated with an assumed average of 3 exp per 9 stamina = 9 exp per 27 stamina. Also note that lvl 1 type specific levelling only works for half the possible colour combinations.If you do want to level 2 valks simultaneously, and have a colour combination that works with one of the stages, I agree that quest 1 farming becomes more valuable. Even in that case, I would still stop doing it somewhere between lvl 30 to 40 due to the increased drain on your money. I don't really consider it "free exp" if you're actually paying a lot of money for it.My main point is however that 1-1 is pretty much the best as long as you don't run out of money, but once you're at the point where you have to consider actively farming money, you probably waste more stamina on farming your money back up, than you originally gained by farming 1-1. That's why it's better to simply switch to a less costly method of levelling before you run out of money in the first place. The optimum ratio is to make it such that you use up your money, but never truly run out of it.I didn't mean to put 21-2 as superior to 1-1, both of them have their good uses. I wanted to put switching to early 21-2 as superior to farming 7-3.
>>13040063Lag, but I expect that's my ancient computer struggling. I may have to use my other comp for this.
am i the only one that noticed the jpg artifacts on aigis' wings
>>13040223I noticed that myself.
I can see how viable afk'ing is after placing your units. Some maps take 10+ minutes (with starter units in bad positions).> Secret booze party quest, no women allowed.This game.
I can already tell from the first few levels Aegis has a lot of waiting around for stats to refill. Unlike LoV you can't dump all your points into Charisma and Stamina takes ages to refill at fucking 1 point per hour.
>>13040280aegis is a very spend all your shit, come back in the morning type of game.
>>13040295Yeah I can tell, oh well that is not a bad thing.
guys, what are some of the most valuable card that I should get?And summon rare unit or premium unit?
As expected we have a pretty old version of Aegis.You can tell immediately by the ginger. Units like him got special sprites.blacked out for those of you who consider character portraits a spoiler which is silly but whatever.
>>13040361would help if I chose the image.
>>13040339Apparently, the gacha in this game is ass, especially the rare unit roll. Save crystals for refills.
>>13040361RIP, if LoV is any proof we will have this version for 2-3 months.
>>13040280It's actually the opposite for Charisma (Stamina recharge rate is in fact ass though). It's more like the game auto-dumps everything into Charisma. When you're sitting there later on with 400+ Charisma, and best XP story missions cost like 30, you'll see how wrong you are. It's basically like most card games, if you go for the missions to farm XP, it literally takes over an hour of non-stop runs. If you do the high-tier event missions to purposely burn it quick, you can do it in like 5 minutes.>>13040339Rare Unit drop rates are awful. Do Premium if you're gonna Gacha at all.
>>13040361So they decide to run the game from the very start with the first events and units? But this is the good news, isn't it?I thought login bonuses are daily ones, but already got two of them.
>>13040438Oh well that is good to know. The stamina rate is a little crap but so long as the cap goes up as you level I can deal with it.
>>13040441They reset at 10am GMT, just like LoV.>>13040394Well, this time the DMM artists won't be caught off-guard by the compliance requirement to not-loli. It might be faster.
>>13040452If I'm not mistaken, I think the Nutaku-Exclusive Heavy Armor on their Facebook is the replacement for Black Heavy Armor Dina.
>>13040466I fucking hope not.
HOW DO YOU GET 3 STARS ON THE LAST DRILL HOLY SHIT
>>13040506The last emergency drill is supposed to be done later in the game. Even then, it's apparently hard as fuck.
>>13040506>>13040513Yeah you will not be 3 staring the last drill for a while. Don't waste the stamina running it over and over, that's a 1 hour recharge per attempt.
Any protips for starting out in Aigis? I got a plat valk girl from the premium gatcha, some black lancer or something.
>>13040513>>13040529Can "futaritomo" just take it easy?
>>13040533[Silver] Greenhorn Soldier Phyllis is OP.
is there any player interaction in aigis?
>>13040588You mean between players? It's like KanColle. Some of the maps / events are complete Bullshit so people rely on each other to figure out how to clear them. Other than that, none.
>>13040506>>13040513>>13040529The drill is the one with the witch, right?You need a level 20 armor and archer, with two level 10 witches and a level 20 mage. You can get a good armor and mage from the blond glasses quests and you can get the witches from the witch quests. The archer I used was the starter archer. Once you hit level 10 you get a gold healer and use her with the two other girls you get from story 3 star.From there you just need a bunch of melee units that won't die in one hit. Preferably if they can survive two hits with your healers. Put the mage top middle left spot, witch right spot, armor at the spot just under that, two healers in range of armor, one in range of the two ranged above. I forget where exactly but I'm pretty sure there's a spot for your archer at the bottom of the first bend, and a spot for your weaker witch near your healers. Place your hero with the skill up title close to the exit. Leave one healer extra to place on the right side of the next bend.From there you should be fine with the wave, doing anything else you need to do until the demon goat. Once the demon goat appears wait until he reaches your armor then retreat them once their health gets in one attack dead territory even with the heals, then throw your second toughest unit there. Repeat until you run out of melee.All the damage to the demon goat will be done by your mage and witches.
So is anyone else noticing Aegis get's quite hard kinda fast?
>>13040739It's a very grindy game.You are required to either get strong units and level them a lot or cost down other units. Like in JP I have a black armor, a handful of various platinum, and a lot of gold but I still have two iron soldiers, a bronze soldier, and an iron mage. The higher rarity units are better in almost every way yes, but take the soldiers for example. A gold soldier costs 10, for that I can place two iron or bronze soldiers. If I cost down these low rarity soldiers I can put them down for 2, and thus have two units for 8 with 2 extra points to put elsewhere instead of only the 10 point soldier. My black armor is another example. She costs 22, a min cost iron armor is a whole 14 points to deploy. Leaving 8 extra points.You can do missions before the suggested point to do them if you are efficient with your points.
gave her a bouquet and im already in her pantswhy cant real life be more like aeigis?
this card tho
>>13040834*unitStill thinking in LoV terms.
Is there a way to spend stamina/charisma without having to do the missions?I am growing tired of playing, and would like a break, but I keep getting levels and it in turn refills my charisma. It feels bad wasting potential charisma.
>>13040838Not really, just spam some lower level maps for more units until you run out of charisma then just take a break. More fodder is never a bad thing.
>>13014252where do u obtain codes like these?
So how exactly do you get more gifts to give units? It's not very well explained. The only gifts I see are login rewards but I can't see that being the only way.
hey guys ima try the Aegis out, any tips for a nub? any referrals, lotteries or other shit to care for when logging in for the first time? like should I create 999 accounts to get a win stick-like stuff? wut to focus on at first? thanks in advance :)
>>13040866I just did a daily to get a mug of beer to gift a guy. Not doing that daily again until I've levelled up some.
I'm doing the tutorial missions to get units. Anything I should be focusing on? Basically same question as this anon >>13040924
>>13040924See >>13038076, but it seems the big message is "never get rid of your silvers, they become important later on and you won't get replacements unless you cash".
Had no internet yesterday and was able to get to loading screen few hours before next counting day for login bonus. I think I can confirm that logins are counted as long as you get to the loading bar
>>13040992I just realized the newbie guide on that post is broken, so here it is again.http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showpost.php?p=603000&postcount=3643
fug, I just stayed up all night playing aigis, and then I read the newbie guide and realized I shouldn't have combined my silvers. ugh.
>>13040379Against my better judgment and doing the exact opposite of what I said, I rolled some gachas.Rare: Another Leanne (heavy).Premium first try: Some guy soldier. FML. At least he's level 10.Premium second try: Pic related.So I didn't regret that after all, but I'd still advise against gacha. Do premium if you must.
>>13040834isn't tactics instructor katie better? you get 10 unit points from her lvl 1 skill
>>13040379>save crystals for refills>implying i'm not gonna test the rng to get a waifunigga u srs
Is there any other use for gold in Aigis except for summoning basic units?
>>13041081combining units to level up a unit costs gold.
>>13041077I know that feel bro. I went ahead and tested the waters anyway, as in >>13041068.I came out happy, so feel free to gamble if you feel lucky. Just remember, premium or bust.
>leveling up doesn't refill staminaok well fuck you then
Do you get more exp when using a unit of the same type as material?
>>13041058Codes in that post don't work?
>everything was easy until those giant black knights showed upi was not prepared.
Comrade's neo down to 2% within 32 minutes. Damn, that's fast.>>13041199Yeah I just fought them myself too. Anti-arrow fatties. Thankfully, I had a mage and some melee hitters to finish the job but I couldn't 3-star their debut quest.
>>130410812k Gold Gacha. Here's a copy pasta diagram explaining players non-stop farming Rural Gate for gold, then spending that gold trying to gold gacha for their waifus, and instead get fat old guys. ヽ 丶 ＼ 女神 ＼ ヽ ヽ ヽ／ / ヽ ＼ ヽ ヽ / | ヽ ＼ ＼ ヽ ゝ (2000G)ノ 丿 ＼ お ＼ ヾ ノ | | 丶 ＼ っ ＼ (2000G) / ＼ さ ＼／| (2000G) ノ | | ＼ ん | ↑ ／＼ ＼ | （ ↑ ／ ＼ ／ | ） （ ／ ＼ ￣￣￣￣￣ （ ）／＿ ＼ ） （ 交通整理￣ | レ ベ|￣ ノ⌒￣⌒γ⌒￣⌒ゝ / / | ア .. ｜| ノ 領 主 . ゝ / / | を ス | 丿 ゞ ＿/ ∠ | 出 . ガ| 丿／|／|／|／|＼|＼|＼ゝ .＼ ／ | し .. チ| │ V――| た ャ|――――――――――┼――――――――――――――――― / い でヽ 巛巛巛巛巛巛巛巛 人巛巛巛巛巛巛巛巛巛巛 田園 気 持 ち
>>13041353>premium gachaTrying to get waifus, get old men instead.Is he any good?
>>13041139Of course they don't fucking work, those are codes for JP Version. Some of those units aren't even in the Nutaku game yet.
>>13041428He's pretty decent actually. A lot of people level their Silvers up since they're so easy to cost-reduce, and a lot of maps are bullshit with bumrush as soon as the map starts.
>>13040848You go and buy Magazines and Books.
Questions.Can I feed the greyish units to my Valkyrie? (Bottom 2 in the image attached)I understand not to feed any silvers.What about the red border? Is this guy special, or can I use it as fodder for my Valkyrie?
>>13041474Red Border is Steel Rarity. They're essentially just slightly stronger Grey (Iron) units. Both are fodder.
>>13041474The bottom 2 are Iron (1 star).The middle guy is Bronze (2 star).They're really easy to farm, this is what you use as fodder. Though until silvers get cost reduced, having a couple bronzes around for rush maps doesn't seem bad.
>>13041482>>13041483Alright, thank you for the quick and specific replies.
I know you guys are geeking on aegis right now....as you should be, but when someone gets a chance could you give me the stat lines for 2M Erika and HD7? Thanks
>>13041549Erika: 20crit, 27 bal, 36 init 9192 atk, 15894 skillHD: 5 crit, 0 bal, 30 init, 8862 atk, 17724 skill
>>130415492M SR+ Erika: 9192 / 158942M SR+ HD7: 8862 / 17724
should I restart if I got bad luck in the first few premium summons? or is that not as important as getting a weapon in LoV?
>>13041652It's not nearly as important. You can get even the highest rarity units from 2k Gold Gacha. And your strongest units will almost all be Event Units unless you're willing to drop thousands of dollars to get extra copies to cost reduce + skill up.
>>13041680I see, hmm... been playing only for like 2h tho so maybe its still worth to restart and try again? wont a good waifu help me progress faster?
>>13041764It actually depends. Not only do you have to get a high rarity waifu. But you also need to find one that's actually good. There are Platinums with stats and skills that are so shit that they're basically Golds that cost more to deploy. And then there are Golds so shit they're practically Silvers that cost more to deploy. Also take note that higher rarity units cost more XP to level.
>>13041807the problem is I get a silver waifu and a gold guy from 2 premiums so I dont think it could've been much worse xD
Is someone going to create a separate Aegis Thread once this one dies out? Or are LoV and Aegis going to be combined again?
When does it stop being cost efficient to fuse 1-2 star fodder to level? How do I use the xp fairies effectively?
>>13041874Depends on what level 1-2 star fodder you have. I can use them efficiently to the 40s on my main account.As for XP Fairies, they give you a Multiplier to XP if you feed them along with something that gives XP. No set rule here, since it depends on how many fairies you have, what rarity you they are, and what you're feeding; as well as how many fairies you're bringing in on a regular basis.
>>13041883The pastoral gate fodder archers/soldiers is what I'm thinking of. I got to around level 20ish and am feeling hesitant to fuse anymore instead of just spamming the gold gatcha,
>>13041890You might want to know the drop rates on Gold Gacha first. ~3.5% Silver, .1% Gold, .01% Platinum, ?% Black.So to even see a Silver Unit drop from there, you'd need ~60k Gold, to see a Gold Unit you'd need 2 million Gold.
Oh wow. My toaster of a laptop can't handle Aigis.
If an evolved unit gets a better skill, is it better to early evolve copies of them to upgrade their skill? Also is cost reduction retained?
>>13041925Yes, if you're not keeping the unit, early Class Changing is fine. And Cost Reduction is retained.
ok guys im back from school and starting to playwish me luck
>>13042029status update:Aigis blessed me with a waifuis she good? can i do better? sorry, im still a noob in this game...
>>13042142She's default first roll. She's actually a weird one. Prior to Awakening she's considered worst than Misha who is Silver (lower rarity), but she becomes goddess of war after Awakening. Her Awakening gives her passive 250% damage at cost of -30% attack speed.
>>13042154What's awakening? The FAQ doesn't cover it.
>>13042162It's basically a second Class Change exclusive to units Gold Rarity or higher. You need a max affection unit with the following levels:Gold: Level 30-50 -> Class Change -> Level 60Platinum: Level 30-50 -> Class Change -> Level 70Black: Level 30-50 -> Class Change -> Level 80 Then, it needs 200k to 250k Gold, an Awakening Fairy (100 Demon Crystals from Thursday Daily), Gold Rarity / CCed Silver Rarity units as Material, and Awakening Orbs. Awakening Orbs are farmed from "God-Tier" Difficulty Daily Maps. And once you finally do that, you can get a unit that is stupidly strong with an OP passive. For example, I think there's a unit that can passively buff all your Gold Rarity Units' HP, Attack, and Defense by like 10%, just by being on the team. You don't even have to use the unit. Just being on the team gives +10% to everything.
how do units become eligible to evolve?
>>13042214Level them up more.
Post your second pull here, if you got one.T-thanks, game, really...
>>13042234A-Am I allowed to post my JP second pull instead? ;_;
>tried 5 crystal draw twice>2 3 star units i already hadwelp time to make a new account
>>13042239post both, just to be sure about it,>>13042247well to be fair, this is before any event units have been out yet.
>>13042258Nutaku.
>>13042234Superior JP Catgirl.
>>13042234Well, I got this
>>13042234Pulled 3 times and got 3 silvers, two I had and some old dude. time to make a new acc
>>13042234Got this neko on my second pullshe is a platimun class,she's to be good right?
>6th draw>3rd account>6th silver unit
>>13042611Dubs confirm thisSeriously though, it's top tier, at least at launch. Don't expect event bonuses with her though.
Everyone is rolling Gacha. Am I the only one to go for the 15 days of +Gold? Once I'm no longer farming Quest 2 to squeeze out my stamina before levelling, I'll get the 15 days of +EXP too. Waifus will come eventually, I first want a big stamina bar.
>>13042680Oops, Aigis calls that Charisma. I am so going to be caught off-guard in the future as I switch between LoV and Aigis namespaces.
>>13042680Everyone wants waifus.Am I the only one so far to luck out with a black-level unit though? Because damn, I'm never this lucky right off the bat.
this game is pretty fun but the ui is such shit.>no shortkey to pause>have to hold down the 2x button>only having 2x>can't see all my goddamn waifus at the bottom
for whatever reason, Aigis on nutaku runs a bit slow
>>13042703My complaint would be that it always throws you out of the unit leveling window and you need to go select it again after each feeding.btw click and hold the 2x button then leave the flash window with the cursor through upper or right side of the button.
>>13042611Catgirl's Skill is OP, her Awakening Passive is a bit iffy though. She's definitely end-game Archer though.
>>13042728thanks for the infoher skill looks dope indeed
It's better to use 1st lvl units for leveling or upgrade them to 5-10 lvl beforehand?And I suppose, affection remains after class change?
>>13042757It's better to feed them as you receive them. And yes, Affection remains.
>>13042757>>13042768The exception to this is if you're using high rarity units to feed. Since if you're doing that, you'll want to use 3x Fairies for an 8x XP Multiplier.
going for my 8th attempt at premium summon. wish me luck
>>13042799Dubs confirm gold or better.
nope. 3 star valkyrie. brb killing self
Daily reminder from JP that there are fuckers with 30% drop rate on Blacks in Premium Gacha.
>>13041199Black knight? Oh, you mean that guy my assassin one-shotted? Good stuff.But yeah, if you can't kill those bastards quickly, they're a nightmare to deal with.
this stamina recovery rate tho
So how exactly does cost reduction work? Is this the one exception to "never feed Silvers"? Game guide says you *may* get a cost reduction if you feed a unit a copy of itself. I've tried it on Iron and Bronze and it doesn't work there but I'm not surprised if cost reduction is for Silver and above.I assume cost reduction carries over when you class change.
>>13042869Yeah, I had three Leannes, so I fed one to another and now she costs 17 instead of 18.
>>13042869Cost Reduction is a %. It works just fine on Iron and Bronze. And that Guide is for noobs. Noobs should never feed Silvers because of how hard it is for them to get Silvers.Ignoring the limited amount you get from Story Clears, there are three ways to get Silvers:-Gacha if you hate your money.-2k Gold Gacha, at a rate of about 1 Silver per 60k Gold.-Event Maps (especially high level ones).The problem is two of the three ways depend on you being strong enough to clear high level missions. Once you become high level and have like an inventory of 50+ spare Silver Units, it doesn't really matter. Hell, you can randomly feed them for XP if you're that desperate and it wouldn't even hurt you that bad.
>>13042881Hmm, does that translate to "noobs should not cost reduce their silvers until they can get a reliable supply"?
>>13042799same here, I'll be taking my 8th attempt soon, so far 6 silvers and 1 golden guy
>>130429025 attempts, all silver here
>>13042902>>13042908Silvers are still really useful. Some more so than a gold until pretty late where you can do awakening due to stats only barely inferior while costing less.As long as they're not easily obtained silvers it's good.
So, this got done in the background amidst all the Aigis today.
been thinking for a while about making these threads into generals for all nutaku games
>>13042919wish I knew which ones are not easily obtained tho
>>13042936None of the "rare' Silvers have been added to Gacha yet, just the vanilla ones.
how are you people doing premium summons so often
>>13042952I think it's cuz we get a crystal when we 3 star a new quest. Unless that doesn't happen all the time then I don't know.
>>130429523*ing maps.
>>130429524 accounts and 5th in the making :D
>>13042919I'm just trying to get some cute waifu to play with, but damn my luck is failing me.
>>13042936throw http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/ into google translate. Go down to silver and it'll show the portrait of all of them. Click the one you got and it'll list the ways to get that unit.Taking for example my most recent pick on JP, it says How to get Premium summons, rare summoned, based summoned Limited event " New Year lottery events Gold Rush! [of " angel of abstinence drop in] Which means while it's silver, it's a unique silver that you can't get outside of gacha anymore unless they bring back the event.
5 Gachas: 1 Platinum, 3 Golds, 1 Silver.
>>13042972I hope you know that waifu is bisexual.
4 gachas, 3 silvers I already have and some gold barbarian dude.Getting pretty tempted to make a new account...how easy is it to get crystals in this game?
>>13042984Sounds even better
>>13042993Depends how fast Nutaku brings in events. In JP, there's usually a new event every week. So you get about 3-5 Crystals + per week, + like 3-4 from Monthly logins + Maintenance/Bug Crystals + giveaways for Holidays and such. So usually, you get about 20 crystals per month?
>>13042993You get one for every story mission you 3 star, and I'm pretty sure from every daily you 3 star. When events are added to english you'll get one from every event map you 3 star. You'll also be given some for login and jp gives away them every maintenance. They're fairly easily obtainable once you get some strong units.
is there any way to reset your aigis account? I had no idea what the card edge colors meant when I started, and combined away a bunch of my silvers, and now I'm really depressed about it and don't want to play anymore unless I can restart. I don't want to make a new nutaku account becuase I have a ton of work in my LoV game on this account
So I load up Aigis on my serious computer. Holy shit, the game speed is so fast. The lag... it's not from the server, it's from inefficient coding requiring a big CPU to sift through it quickly.
>>13043019apparently you can. explained here: https://twitter.com/nutakugames/status/565908396474650624it looks like will reset only Aigis
>>13043128YES!!! Phew, this just made my day
Is there any way to mute Aigis?
>>13043147Home --> Other --> Options
just got a second lancer kerry from gacha, does it make any sense to keep 2 of them or should I proceed to making the 6th account?
i really wish there was a way to down the graphics a bitmy low-end TI-82 can barely hand the game, it froze twice already (only the game, i could still fully use my computer as i wanted) and had to restart that level so... that sucks
>>13043200Cost Reduction / Skill Up. Kerry (Carrie) is awful until you Awaken her though. I would suggest a sixth run and hope to God that drawing her didn't drain all of your luck.
>>13043128Anybody else manage to get this reset working? Wondering if I'm doing something wrong or if it even actually works.
Katie getThat unit point quest took me a while
>>13043213I just tried it a few times, it says that it deleted my info but when I load the game I'm right back where I left off
So I got a fairy from one of the quests. It's an iron one. Is that relevant when eating it? Should I only eat it together with iron fodder?
>>13043327It's relevant to the unit eating it (not the XP unit being eaten oddly enough). You won't ever want to level Iron units up though, so you should just use it later on at 1.5x instead of 2x.
>>13043134yeah um, not YES, I too coulnd't get this to work
>>13043209just got that platinum archer waifu in my second summon on the same account, so I guess I'll stick to it after all :> so u're saying its pointless to use both kerrys separately and its better to feed one to another?
>>13043264did you clear your cache and cookies for the site?That may or may not help.So what's the likelihood that we can get affection to "a certain level" a this point in the game? When do we get more gifts?
>>13043373It's very rare that you'll need two Kerrys in the same mission. And in the few cases that you do need two Valkyries, you could just use a Mischa / Elaine instead for the second one.
Woah, we hit bump limit! Suggested new OP image for next thread (if we don't use the Navi one I posted last thread). Surprisingly hard to find an image that we'd recognise and that's SFW.>>13043340Thanks for the quick response.
>>13043391You get tons of Gifts from the Affection Daily. On my main Account I can get ~120% worth of Affection in a single day from the Senior-Tier Daily.Also H-Scenes are at 30% and 100%.
>>13043405what do you think about this >>13042933
>>13043391These so-called "Challenge Quests" (the first few are laughably easy) award gifts. The Wednesday daily is probably better, given it's the day dedicated to gift farming.Having said that, I tried today's daily and got wrecked by flying beholders shooting eye fire. We're not touching dailies for a while.
>>13043415If by "all" you mean "all that we care about" then I'm all for a combined thread. Seems to work ok for now. We'll hit bump limit faster but I'll have an easier time finding OP images.
>>13043415I say just go with a Nutaku general.Remember to include >>13038076 and >>13041058 for Aigis.
>>13043430I would hope nobody plays the 3DPD Nutaku games.
Debating whether or not to re-roll. Did three rolls and I got; Platinum "Iris" (Healer), Gold Bernice (Heavy Armor), and Gold Conrad (Bandit). Really want a Black or Offensive Platinum though.
>>13043403Thanks :) So yeah I guess I'll combine them then :) Kinda failed summon but the second one compensates it I guess. One last question - anything I should care for when combining, apart from the same skill? or just feed everything I have to a unit, regardless of the fodders level, element etc? Not talking about fairies, whatever they are, cos I obviously dont have any yet.
>>13043443Seems like a horrible waste of time rerolling, having to 3 star everything again. Seems like you'd get more out of just grinding and enhancing your starting silver/golds.
let's try this out>>13043465