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No Offense: The New Threats to Free Speech

The U.S. and Britain have long considered themselves the standard-bearers for freedom of expression. Can this proud tradition survive the idea that ‘hurtful’ speech deserves no protection?

Today, hurtful speech is more likely to be political speech than obscene speech. ENLARGE
Today, hurtful speech is more likely to be political speech than obscene speech. Brian Stauffer

On Feb. 14, 1989, I happened to be on a panel on press freedom for the Columbia Journalism Review when someone in the audience told us of Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini’s religious edict for blasphemy against the British novelist Salman Rushdie. What did we think? We didn’t, as I best recall, disgrace ourselves. We said most of the right things about defending freedom of thought and the imagination.

But the death sentence from Iran’s supreme leader seemed unreal—the sending of a thunderbolt from medieval Qom against modern Bloomsbury—and we didn’t treat it with the seriousness that it deserved. I recall, alas, making a very poor joke about literary deconstructionism. My colleagues, though more sensible, were baffled and hesitant. Was it even true—or perhaps just a mistranslation?

We knew soon enough that it was true. The literary, media and political worlds rallied in defense of Mr. Rushdie. He became a hero of free speech and a symbol—even if a slightly ambivalent postcolonial one—of Western liberal traditions. But he also went, very sensibly, behind a curtain of security that was to last many years.

And by degrees—when it seemed that not only Mr. Rushdie’s life but the lives of his publishers, editors and translators might be threatened—his base of support in the literary world thinned out. Sensitive intellectuals discovered that, in a multicultural world, respect for the Other meant understanding his traditions too, and these often were, well, sterner than ours. Freedom of speech was only one value to be set against…ahem, several other values. Fear, cowardice and rationalization spread outward.

Twenty-five years later, we can look back on a long series of similar events, including: the 2002 anti-Christian riots in Nigeria, in which more than 200 people were killed because a local tabloid had facetiously suggested that Miss World contestants would make suitable brides for Muhammad; the 2004 murder of the Dutch filmmaker Theo van Gogh for his movie “Submission,” in which passages from the Quran were printed on women’s bodies; the riots in Denmark and throughout the Middle East in 2005 in response to the publication of cartoons of Muhammad by a Danish magazine; the murder threats against Dutch politician Geert Wilders for his 2008 film “Fitna,” which interleaved passages from the Quran with clips of jihadist violence.

Muslim worshippers in Baghdad, Iraq, denounce Denmark after a Danish magazine ran cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad on Feb. 3, 2006. ENLARGE
Muslim worshippers in Baghdad, Iraq, denounce Denmark after a Danish magazine ran cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad on Feb. 3, 2006. Associated Press

These events were threats to free speech, however, not only in themselves but also because they intimidated people and private organizations and gave governments an excuse to restrict free media. Over time, they encouraged others who had no interest in Islam whatsoever—from wealthy individuals to “dissident” minorities to democratic politicians—to try their hand at silencing opponents. Almost no newspapers published the Muhammad cartoons, for instance, though the story of them dominated the international media for weeks. Yale University Press especially distinguished itself by publishing a major study of the controversy in 2009—without the actual drawings.

Governments began to treat those threatened for their opinions almost as harshly as those attacking them. Dutch legal authorities tried repeatedly, if unsuccessfully, to prosecute Mr. Wilders for “inciting hatred” with his film. He was briefly prohibited from entering Britain. In 2006, Tony Blair’s government passed the Racial and Religious Hatred Act—a kind of “blasphemy lite” law—ostensibly designed to protect all religions against threatening expression but generally understood as intended to limit hostile criticism of Islam. Both the U.S. and the European Union have entered into a dialogue in recent years with the 56 states of the Organization of the Islamic Conference, which is seeking an international law prohibiting blasphemy. In 2011, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told the OIC that, while the First Amendment prevented the U.S. from prohibiting speech, the administration might still “use some old-fashioned techniques of peer pressure and shaming so that people don’t feel they have the support to do what we abhor.”

Admittedly, it is difficult to draw a clear line between criticism of an Islamic belief and an attack on Muslims who believe it. If you denounce a belief as absurd, you are implicitly criticizing the believers as credulous fools. Christians have to endure explicit denunciations of their faith all the time from such writers as Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris. And so they should. If you can’t stand the heat, don’t listen to hellfire sermons from atheists.

Hearing criticisms of your own convictions and learning the beliefs of others are training for life in a multifaith society. Preventing open debate means that all believers, including atheists, remain in the prison of unconsidered opinion. The right to be offended, which is the other side of free speech, is therefore a genuine right. True belief and honest doubt are both impossible without it.

It isn’t just some Muslims who want the false comfort of censoring disagreeable opinions. Far from it. Gays, Christians, feminists, patriots, foreign despots, ethnic activists—or organizations claiming to speak for them—are among the many groups seeking relief from the criticism of others through the courts, the legislatures and the public square.

England’s libel laws—long a scandalous system for enabling the rich to suppress their scandals—now have imitations in Europe and the U.S. In May 2014, the European Court of Justice created “the right to be forgotten,” enabling those with ugly pasts—a fraudster, a failed politician, an anti-Muslim bigot perhaps—to delete their crimes, misdemeanors and embarrassments from Internet records so that search engines cannot find them.

Surely such things can’t happen in the land of the First Amendment? Not in quite the same way, perhaps, but a libel suit brought by the climatologist Michael Mann against the opinion writer Mark Steyn, National Review magazine (with which I am affiliated) and the Competitive Enterprise Institute for their criticism of his temperature projections still poses a chilling threat to free speech and scientific debate. Even if the case is ultimately resolved in favor of Mr. Mann’s critics, they will have suffered a considerable loss in time and money. “The process is the punishment,” Mr. Steyn has said of such trials. It is also a deterrent to future critics.

Nor are conservatives free from sin on this issue. In recent years, their attacks on free expression in the U.S. have generally been prompted by a philistine discomfort with provocative art, from the “Sensation” exhibition at the Brooklyn Museum in 1999 to the more recent flap over “The Death of Klinghoffer” at New York’s Metropolitan Opera.

In Britain, the sitting Tory home secretary, Theresa May, long resisted efforts to reform a catchall law regulating speech that the police have enforced with extraordinary zeal and no sense of proportion. These police actions include arresting a protester for asking a policeman “Is your horse gay?”; prosecuting a drunken soccer fan who, from his sofa, attacked a player in a racist tweet; summoning a youngster to appear in court for a placard describing Scientology as a cult; and arresting a Muslim demonstrator for burning a Remembrance Poppy.

Under the new British law, an evangelical Christian also was fined for holding up a sign that read “Stop Homosexuality, Stop Lesbianism.” But he was lucky. A human rights tribunal in Canada imposed a lifetime ban on sermonizing about homosexuality on a clergyman who had similarly offended. In both countries, the restraints on speech have since been softened, but the concessions have been modest, and Canada’s Supreme Court has clearly indicated a wish to retain the new speech regime in full.

This slow erosion of freedom of expression has come about in ways both social and legal. Before the 1960s, arguments for censorship tended to focus on sexual morality, pornography and obscenity. The censors themselves were usually depicted as benighted moral conservatives—priggish maiden aunts. Freedom of political speech, however, was regarded as sacrosanct by all. As legal restraints on obscenity fell away, however, freedom of political speech began to come under attack from a different kind of censor—college administrators, ethnic-grievance groups, gay and feminist advocates.

A woman protests a speech by Geert Wilders in Australia in 2013. Mr. Wilders’s 2008 film ‘Fitna’ interweaved passages from the Quran with clips of jihadist violence. ENLARGE
A woman protests a speech by Geert Wilders in Australia in 2013. Mr. Wilders’s 2008 film ‘Fitna’ interweaved passages from the Quran with clips of jihadist violence. Agence France-Presse/Getty Images

The new censors advanced such arguments as that “free speech can never be an excuse for racism.” These arguments are essentially exercises both in begging the question and in confusing it. While the principle of free speech cannot justify racism any more than it can disprove racism, it is the only principle that can allow us to judge whether or not particular speech is racist. Thus the censor’s argument should be reversed: “Accusations of racism can never be an excuse for prohibiting free speech.”

Meanwhile, the narrowly legal grounds for restricting speech changed, too. Since the 18th century, the basic legal justifications for restricting political speech and publication were direct incitement to harm, national security, maintaining public order, libel, etc. Content wasn’t supposed to be considered (though it was sometimes smuggled in under other headings).

Today, content is increasingly the explicit justification for restricting speech. The argument used, especially in colleges, is that “words hurt.” Thus, universities, parliaments, courts and various international bodies intervene promiscuously to restrict hurtful or offensive speech—with the results described above. In the new climate, hurtful speech is much more likely to be political speech than obscene speech.

The definition of political speech has changed too. The U.S. Supreme Court has expanded it to include nonspeech actions, such as nude dancing. Conservative judges such as the late Robert Bork had some fun pointing out that, under the Court’s rulings, students couldn’t lawfully pray before a football game, but they might dance naked—unless the dance included scarves, since this might constitute a prohibited “biblical” allusion to Salome’s veils.

There is plainly scope for disagreement over what actions amount to protected speech, but in a landmark ruling in 1989, the Supreme Court decided that burning the American flag was among them. If one accepts the notion of nonspeech opinion, it is difficult to disagree. Burning the flag of the U.S., however odious, is plainly a statement meant to reject American power and legitimacy.

The Court’s judgment in this case was the apogee of post-Vietnam free speech liberalism. But to bring the issue up-to-date: Burning the Quran also expresses a political opinion. Would today’s justices reach the same conclusion as their predecessors did on the question of flag-burning? Would a U.S. administration that is discussing an international blasphemy law with the world’s Islamic states tell the Court that burning a Quran is also protected speech? It is, at the very least, doubtful.

We know that today’s British government wouldn’t do so. Burning a Remembrance Day poppy is the British equivalent of flag-burning, and Ms. May, the home secretary, implicitly disagreed with the American precedent in her defense of Britain’s restrictive laws. She explained that “a careful balance [had] to be struck between protecting our proud tradition of free speech and taking action against those who cause widespread offense.” Realistically parsed, this amounts to an acknowledgment that Britain’s proud tradition of free speech will not in fact be protected. Speech that offends significant groups of people—as distinguished from speech that directly invites or threatens violence—will be censored or punished.

Some years ago, the liberal writer Michael Kinsley described the different attitudes to free speech in the U.K. and the U.S. as follows: “In a country like Great Britain, the legal protections for speech are weaker than ours, but the social protections are stronger. They lack a First Amendment, but they have thicker skin and a greater acceptance of eccentricity of all sorts.”

Today, both sorts of protection for speech—legal and social—are weaker than before in both countries. This year, official regulation of the press was passed into U.K. law for the first time since 18th-century juries nullified press prosecutions. These new restraints enjoyed the backing not just of all the parties but apparently of the public as well.

In the U.S., the case of Mann v. Steyn, let alone a hypothetical case involving Quran-burning, has yet to be decided. But Democrats in the Senate are seeking to restrict political speech by restricting the money spent to promote it. And in the private sector, American corporations have blacklisted employees for expressing or financing certain unfashionable opinions. In short, a public culture that used to be liberal is now “progressive”—which is something like liberalism minus its commitment to freedom.

The U.S. and Britain have long thought of themselves as, above all, free countries. If that identity continues to atrophy, free speech will be the first victim. But it will not be the last.

--Mr. O’Sullivan is director of the Danube Institute in Budapest and a senior fellow of the National Review Institute in New York.

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434 comments
George Gonzalez-Rivas
George Gonzalez-Rivas subscriber

Isn't it already too late?  Free speech is long dead on most university campuses.  And the professors who maintain this are tenured.  And these same attitudes are filtering down to the secondary education teachers.   I shudder to say it...but we may have lost an entire generation.  


But lets not go quietly into this long night.  Rail, rail against this progressive movement that is actually retrograde in most things that matter.  

Larry Brunner
Larry Brunner subscriber

I am reading this a few days late, so no one is likely to see my comment but I feel compelled to comment.  I definitely agree that this subject needs desperately to be discussed.  Thank you Mr O'Sullivan for writing this article & thank you WSJ for printing it.  HOWEVER, it is fascinating to me that Mr O'Sullivan felt the need to put in the gratuitous comment about "conservatives not being free from sin." Conservatives are not the problem here & Mr. O'Sullivan knows it.  He also fails to mention the issue with the infamous video which supposedly caused the Benghazi attack & how the Obama administration wanted to (and did, I understand) prosecute the video maker. 

Joe Lombardi
Joe Lombardi subscriber

Brilliant piece. Just brilliant. Bravo!

Paul Blackburn
Paul Blackburn subscriber

This is a beautiful essay on freedom. Move over James Madison, here is your modern son.

Chris Patten
Chris Patten subscriber

We can't let ourselves be taken hostage by fear of offending others. Knowing that an idea will cause offense, and being able to express it anyway [especially if it needs to be said] is the most fundamental of rights.

Robert Kral
Robert Kral subscriber

This whiny insistence on the "right not to be offended" is common to Muslims and Western liberals. Both are enemies of freedom and rational discourse.

Brinda Gore
Brinda Gore subscriber

Speaking of Free Speech....Did the Administration create a 37 mile no fly zone over Ferguson for 12 days because:

1)  They did not want the citizens of the US to see the police dept driving Humvees in Military gear

2)  They did not want the media to see the protestors crashing and burning all the businesses in Ferguson.

Either way it is a giant step against freedom of anything.

WASHINGTON (AP) - The U.S. government agreed to a police request to restrict more than 37 square miles of airspace surrounding Ferguson, Missouri, for 12 days in August for safety, but audio recordings show that local authorities privately acknowledged the purpose was to keep away news helicopters during violent street protests.On Aug. 12, the morning after the Federal Aviation Administration imposed the first flight restriction, FAA air traffic managers struggled to redefine the flight ban to let commercial flights operate at nearby Lambert-St. Louis International Airport and police helicopters fly through the area - but ban others."They finally admitted it really was to keep the media out," said one FAA manager about the St. Louis County Police in a series of recorded telephone conversations obtained by The Associated Press.

Vinod Kumar
Vinod Kumar subscriber

If you want to keep a people in mental slavery the most efficient way is to take away their freedom of thought, speech and imagination.

Diane Flaherty
Diane Flaherty subscriber

If free speech is censored or restricted, how are we going to know who we're dealing with?  Because only then can we know others' arguments, and know how to refine, or reject, defend against, or even compromise on critical issues.

Benjamin Whitehead
Benjamin Whitehead subscriber

This is beyond frightening.  The groups who are allowed amendments to free speech to protect their interests will eventually have the power to silence those who disagree with them.  


You don't see Mormon's (myself included) threatening to silence the patently offensive "Book of Mormon" broadway play.  I would defend to the death the artist's right to produce it.


Yet people of all faiths are vilified, terrorized, and threatened for voicing opinions consistent with their faith - such as suggesting marriage is between a man and a woman.  


This is tyrrany, pure and simple.  

Thom McCan
Thom McCan subscriber

Propaganda is not free speech.


Hate speech is not free speech.


Anti-Semitism is not free speech.

David Williams
David Williams subscriber

Restriction of speech, for any reason, is a slippery slope. What comes next, the "thought police"? The future is a scary place.

SAMUEL REICH
SAMUEL REICH subscriber

It is not my definition. It the definition of the mathematicaL and scientific world.   It is the common 21 century definition.

Jeremy Sahler
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People have rights. Ideas do not. We cannot live in a society where it is outlawed to scrutinize an idea and dismiss it as absurd if the idea is inherently absurd. 


Silencing those who think differently is about as medieval and archaic a practice as I could possibly imagine.  

Catherine Dempsey
Catherine Dempsey subscriber

Piece brings to mind a news report I watched several years ago.   The 'progressives' at an Ivy League university were quite upset at an article written in a conservative student newspaper questioning affirmative action.    Entire stacks of this newspaper had been stolen and destroyed before distribution.   One young woman who was interviewed said she'd 'had enough of that free speech cr%p'.     She, obviously, had no understanding of how freedom of speech was a core U.S. value and underpinned many of the freedoms we have.   That's when I realized that there was something terribly wrong with what was being taught.

Gordon Finley
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Hello male voters! It is your free speech they are talking about  


Why would any man vote Democrat?


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Gordon E. Finley, Ph.D., & Dianna Thompson have 6 issues for males to consider


The most presciently under-appreciated and intentionally ignored book in gender politics was published by David Paul Kuhn in 2007 and titled “The Neglected Voter: White Men and The Democratic Dilemma.” The message is in the title. White men have fled the Democratic Party in droves, for good reason – and why shouldn’t they continue to flee in 2014 — while keeping an eye on 2016?


For those not afraid of being “bullied” by the Democratic left, there are a half dozen long-ignored but critically important problems facing the nation’s males that should bring all voting-age men to the polls in 2014 – perhaps men’s last chance for hope and change before the ice age possibly returns in 2016. Consider six interlocking sets of issues.


...more on link..

John Trottman
John Trottman subscriber

You do not have the right to not be offended, period. Start to cross that line and all we hold dear melts away.

Muslims can just suck it up.

Aaron Tomares
Aaron Tomares subscriber

"In the realm of religious faith, and in that of political belief, sharp differences arise. In both fields the tenets of one man may seem the rankest error to his neighbor. To persuade others to his own point of view, the pleader, as we know, at times, resorts to exaggeration, to vilification of men who have been, or are, prominent in church or state, and even to false statement. But the people of this nation have ordained in the light of history, that, in spite of the probabilities of excesses and abuses, these liberties are in the long view, essential to enlightened opinion and right conduct on the part of the citizens of a democracy."

Chief Justice Charles E. Hughes

United States Supreme Court

Cantwell v. Connecticut

 

Robert Flatt
Robert Flatt subscriber

In a civil society if free speech is a right, then it is tolerance that is the matching obligation (not as the author suggests a 'right to be offended').

And as I read in The Economist many years ago: "Political Correctness is intolerance disguised as liberalism".

XAVIER L SIMON
XAVIER L SIMON subscriber

Political correctness is like beauty, it is in the eye of the beholder. I rather stick with the guarantee of free speech in the Constitution.

Alonzo Quijana
Alonzo Quijana subscriber

Progressives are some of the most intolerant people around.  

Kathryn Grammer
Kathryn Grammer subscriber

Excellent article. Political correctness is a kinder, gentler censorship, but it is still an assault on our Constitution. Schools don't allow "Huckleberry Finn" in the classroom because of the N word, even though the message of the book is a boy's awakening toward the humanity of a runaway slave. Unfortunately, schools, like so many bureaucratic institutions, have been taken over by moral bean counters.


Macrena Sailor
Macrena Sailor subscriber

Nor are conservatives free from sin on this issue. In recent years, their attacks on free expression in the U.S. have generally been prompted by a philistine discomfort with provocative art, from the “Sensation” exhibition at the Brooklyn Museum in 1999 to the more recent flap over “The Death of Klinghoffer” at New York’s Metropolitan Opera.

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This is an excellent article, but I do have a nit to pick with the above.  Many of the people objecting to the opera are not conservative but are Liberal Jews.  I am confused  how this got lumped in with conservatives.  I am not saying that conservatives are not offended by it, but they are hardly alone or even the primary complainers.  


Also, the "Conservative' objection to the Sensation exhibit was not over the right of the "artist" to express his opinion in art but the use of Federal tax dollars to do so.  That is a separate issue worthy of analysis, but is not in the same category as the desire to prohibit by law offensive speech.

Van Rhodes
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"a public culture that used to be liberal is now “progressive”—which is something like liberalism minus its commitment to freedom".

Great definition of "progressive"

Paul Blackburn
Paul Blackburn subscriber

@Robert Kral "Both are enemies of freedom and rational discourse."


Or perhaps both have little rational upon which to discourse.

Peter De Thier
Peter De Thier subscriber

@Benjamin Whitehead You had me until the second-to-last sentence. 


If my "faith" dictates that interracial marriage is wrong, is it fair for me to try to legislate that onto EVERYBODY (regardless of whether they share my faith) as the law of the land? And then have the arrogance to pretend as if I am being vilified or terrorized by those who think that two consenting adults should be allowed to enjoy the legal and financial benefits of marriage?

Macrena Sailor
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@Thom McCan

Is "Republicans are terrorists" hate speech?


How about "Republicans want to put you back in chains"?


Or, "If Tillis is elected you will be lynched or it will be Ferguson, Mo. here"?


"Voter ID is Republicans wanting to keep blacks from voting"?


How about "Republicans only disagree with Obama because they are all racist"?

Robert Kral
Robert Kral subscriber

The thought police are here now, my friend. The emergence of "hate crimes" was the camel's nose in the tent.

MICHAEL PETRINO
MICHAEL PETRINO subscriber

@SAMUEL REICH Mathematics and science are artifacts. They do not reveal the truth. They produce paradigms which change over time. The truth is the same at all times and in all places.

KENT CLIZBE
KENT CLIZBE subscriber

@Joe Hood 

Might want to consider a little history before you get lost in the heat of the moment and conflate terrorism with one religion: 

"The Irgun: Palestine 1931-48

[1931] Irgun Zvai Leumi (National Military Organization) was founded in Jerusalem; led by Avraham Tehomi, it advocated armed Jewish insurrection against British rule and war against Palestinian Arabs.

[1943] Menachem Begin became leader of the Israeli terrorist Irgun Zvai Leumi (National Military Organization), which was engaged in a campaign against the British in Palestine.

[1946] King David Hotel bombing (July 22): Irgun Zvai Leumi terrorists, commanded by Menachem Begin, bombed the British office wing of Jerusalem's King David Hotel, killing 91 people, 17 of them Jews. Among other Irgun terrorist actions was the bombing of the British Embassy in Rome. 


http://www.onwar.com/aced/nation/jay/jew/firgun1931.htm


Macrena Sailor
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@Joe Hood

I would except Egypt.  They got rid of their Islamists and had to take on Barak Obama and his Ambassador Ann Patterson and the world MSM to do it.

They are a success story.

Diane Flaherty
Diane Flaherty subscriber

@John Trottman I agree wholeheartedly.  But would you be willing to risk beheading for this thought?  (A huge question of commitment to this idea for some.)

Wayne Wilson
Wayne Wilson subscriber

@John Trottman How about a new law: (a) anyone who proclaims to be offended by a person's spoken words is subject to having their ears plugged with wax for a year; (b) anyone who proclaims to be offended by a person's written words is subject to having their eyes covered by a blindfold for a year.


SHERM EAGAN
SHERM EAGAN subscriber

Mac, I confess to a sin of omission. When I said "corporations" I did not mean just listed stock companies. I mean all convenient legal fiction bodies: PETA, PTA, St. Peter's Church or Proctor a& Gamble. All are free to encourage their individual members or shareholders to contribute individually to any candidate that supports that enterprise's agenda. The constitution specifies and guarantees certain rights for citizens and the electorate. it also allows for penalties. An human citizen can be jailed or even executed. You can't jail or execute Phillips Petroleum or your local PTA. (See if the Koch Industries would like to open itself up to that possibility.) Therefore these enterprises cannot be held fully accountable for their actions, just like minors. We don't allow minors to fully participate in our democracy because they're not fully acountable. Sorry, corporations and other organizations. Since you cannot be held fully accountable like a human citizen, you cannot fully participate in our democracy, but you can urge your indivual shareholders and members to do so. And you should.

Catherine Dempsey
Catherine Dempsey subscriber

@Macrena Sailor   -   Mr. O'Sullivan also seems to not understand that 'using the public square' to protest,. is itself an exercise in free speech.   



Greg Brown
Greg Brown subscriber

@Charles Heimerdinger Based on my own recent experience, you should be careful there are no Muslims who can touch you in some way - in your work, on your neighborhood board, living in your town and such

Brinda Gore
Brinda Gore subscriber

@Peter De Thier Please recall that The Supreme Court and Candidate Obama said they believed Marriage was between a man and a woman.

Because Obama changed his mind, it does not mean that the citizens of the US have to change decades of belief.  Without Eric Holder, the Gay Mafia, would not be taking over America.

Do you see the difference?

Joe Hood
Joe Hood subscriber

Kent - anything more recent than 1946?

Macrena Sailor
Macrena Sailor subscriber

@SHERM EAGAN


Sherm, so newspapers and the MSM who are corporations should have Free Speech rights along with the ability to say whatever they want about anyone but no other corporation or group has the right to respond or to voice their opinions?  

The pages and words of the Press are often nothing more than in-kind contributions to candidates and  Parties.  I don't think our Founders intended that speech was to be limited to them.  

They don't put News corporations in jail either, but they have the right to express themselves and to sway elections.

The government also spends a lot of our money to express their opinion and sway people.  We can't put the Government in jail but their speech is not curtailed.  

Sorry, your analogy does not stand up to scrutiny.

Macrena Sailor
Macrena Sailor subscriber

@Catherine Dempsey @Macrena Sailor


Exactly, Catherine.  One's free speech does not deprive another of their right to express an opinion about their speech.  


Robert Eisenhauer
Robert Eisenhauer subscriber

@Greg Brown @Charles Heimerdinger 

Muslims should fear being "touched" if they unleash any more of their coward terrorism in these United States.  Americans in America should fear no one.  Muslim cowards are free to poison and destroy their own lands and people as much as they want.  But their poison and destruction will be met head-on, here.  Funny how the Muslim cowards never come to Montana to kill women and children.  I wonder, oh wonder, exactly why that might be?

Peter De Thier
Peter De Thier subscriber

@Brinda Gore @Peter De Thier No, I don't. I don't choose my skin color. People don't choose to like the same sex, in the same way that as a heterosexual man I don't choose to be attracted to women. It's how I am biologically wired.


What Obama believes is completely immaterial, and the Supreme Court is a very poor example as they have, and will continue to strike down provisions of DOMA one-by-one.


What is your objective in preventing same-sex couple from marrying? Will it prevent the erosion of your heterosexual marriage? Are you trying to keep social parity with countries like Saudia Arabia and Zambia?

SHERM EAGAN
SHERM EAGAN subscriber

I think your suggestion is Arthur Andersen was "executed" in the wake of Enron. In fact, Arthur Andersen LLC still exists profitably operating the Q Center in Chicago, a conference and corporate education facility. So while the corporation (LLC) survived, thousands of innocent, not involved, employees got "slaughtered." That's exactly my point. Corporations are exempt from execution and inprisonment.

SHERM EAGAN
SHERM EAGAN subscriber

See First Amendment: "Make no law...infringing on freedom of the press.” No mention of corporations, NGOs, PACs or Super PACs. The PTA, 501(C) (3)s or any other enterprise. The press is constitutionally exempt. May not like it but the analogy does stand up.

I have enjoyed the discussion. You're smart, thoughtful and civil. We need more people like you.

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