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PULLING NO PUNCHES

An appeal to Bruce Jenner

Exclusive: Matt Barber tells Olympic star Christ alone can 'recreate' him

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Matt Barber is founder and editor-in chief of BarbWire.com. He is an author, columnist, cultural analyst and an attorney concentrating in constitutional law. Having retired as an undefeated heavyweight professional boxer, Matt has taken his fight from the ring to the culture war. (Follow Matt on Twitter: @jmattbarber).
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Dear Mr. Jenner,
You probably don’t know who I am and certainly have no obligation to read on. Even so, I pray you will. As the great Olympic champion God gifted you to be, you were an inspiration to me as a boy and endured as such when I grew into adulthood and professional athletics. I hope you will serve to inspire many more generations of young people.
As it stands now, however, you instead appear poised to lead them astray. I implore you to reverse course.
I am a follower of Christ Jesus. That is to say, though in my flesh I am an especially flawed and fallen human being, Jesus, who is God incarnate, is the Lord of my life. While I fall well short of His glory each day, God’s living and infallible word, the Holy Bible, coupled with His infinite gifts of grace, faith and truth, nonetheless empower me to navigate my finite and pitfall-laden time here on earth.
As a “born again” Christ follower, I have another transcendent gift: The indwelling of the Holy Spirit, the third person of the Holy Trinity, who guides my heart, soul, thoughts and words. It is this selfsame Holy Spirit who has prompted me to write you.
And so it is by His authority that I do so.
Mr. Jenner, before it’s too late I wish to warn you of a major pitfall in your own life. Though it eludes your vision, it looms all the same but a few short steps ahead of you. While at the time of this writing you have yet to confirm or deny reports, multiple media outlets are abuzz with rumors that you intend to “transition from male to female.”
Bruce, from here on I will operate under the assumption that these rumors are accurate. I will be sharing with you a number of truths that, though they may be hard to hear, remain truths just the same. I suspect that you have very few people around you willing to do this. Though it will be called “hate,” what I do, I do in love. Remember, and as I often say, truth is hate to those who hate truth.
First, the elephant in the room: As you ultimately know in your heart-of-hearts, this extreme path you have chosen to take at this late stage in your life is not the answer to the question, “Who is Bruce Jenner?” You must certainly be aware, if only deep down, that to “transition from male to female” is a hopeless and hapless impossibility, biologically, emotionally, spiritually and in every other way imaginable. If you have been convinced otherwise, you labor under grave deception.
There is a reason that after “sex reassignment” surgery, so-called “transgender” people commit suicide at a rate 20 times higher than normal, and, despite rationalizations to the contrary, imaginary “transphobia” is not that reason. If you follow through with this, Bruce, you will be making, second only to denying Christ, the biggest mistake of your life.
Here, in reality, is what you propose to do. You are about to irreversibly mutilate your body and scar your soul. By all accounts, you have already begun doing so. Cosmetically destroying your genitalia, adding artificial breasts and superficially altering your features to make you appear (you really won’t) as a woman, will no more make you a woman than putting fake antlers on a puppy can make it an antelope.
It will only make you the object of pity and ridicule.
You were, are and will always be the man who is Bruce Jenner – the man God created you to be. My fervent prayer is that you might also become the man He intends you to be – the Bruce Jenner who was created, not primarily to win gold medals, but to worship, magnify and glorify the Son of God. As Saint Augustine reflected, “Thou hast made us for Thyself, and our hearts are restless until they rest in Thee.”
Bruce, you are restless. I know. You will find rest in Christ alone. “Then Jesus said, ‘Come to me, all of you who are weary and carry heavy burdens, and I will give you rest.’”
That emptiness inside, that void you seek to fill cannot be filled by hacking away at yourself. You have a “God-shaped hole” in your heart. You need heart surgery, Bruce, not cosmetic surgery. To attempt change from the outside in is merely superficial. It will lead only to further seeking, heartache and, ultimately, to spiritual death. That longing you feel, that change you seek, can only come from the inside out.
No team of unethical surgeons can recreate Bruce Jenner. Christ alone can do that. “Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come: The old has gone, the new is here!” (2 Corinthians 5:17)
Famed author C.S. Lewis once wrote, “It would seem that Our Lord finds our desires not too strong, but too weak. We are half-hearted creatures, fooling about with drink and sex and ambition when infinite joy is offered us, like an ignorant child who wants to go on making mud pies in a slum because he cannot imagine what is meant by the offer of a holiday at the sea. We are far too easily pleased.”
Your desires are misplaced, Bruce. You’re making mud pies with your life while a holiday at the sea awaits you.
You’re 65 years old. You have, what, 10, 15, maybe 20 years left? Don’t do it. Don’t destroy yourself. Don’t let this unfortunate and bizarre footnote to your life become that which defines it.
Christ is calling you, Bruce Jenner. You are not “a woman trapped in a man’s body.” You are a child of God awaiting adoption.
Please seek counsel from a biblically faithful pastor or priest. I am likewise delighted to meet with you anytime and anywhere to share with you the good news of the Gospel, which maps out the exclusive path to joy, rest and eternal salvation. My email is jmattbarber@comcast.net, if you’d ever like to talk.
Either way, I am praying for you. Many who read this are praying for you.
May God bless you and keep you, Bruce.
Matt Barber
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  • Paul GC an hour ago
    Jenner doesn't need to do the whole Jesus trip (which won't help anyway.) He needs to spend some time getting good psychological help to explain certain basic biological facts of life to him. (And he IS a "him"--no amount of genital mutilation, hormone-poisoning or pancake makeup is going to change that.)
    The poor nutcase is confused enough as it is. He doesn't need to be further confused with the lies of Religion.
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      • Kassabanana 2 hours ago
        I knew morons were going to take this car accident and twist into some "God did it to teach you a lesson!" preachy finger-wagging. First of all, leave the guy alone. It's his life and he can do with it what he pleases. It doesn't affect you at all and maybe he can find happiness for the first time. Second of all, try to learn to love everyone instead of judging them. I'm not religious but even I know enough to love my neighbor.
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          • Grizzly Adams 2 hours ago
            Why does the all seeing all knowing all powerful need a translator?
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            • C.Benavente 2 hours ago
              And what if Bruce doesn't have your same beliefs? While reading this i laughed, because it reminded me of those people who come to your door and shove God into your face. Leave Bruce B, if he wants to be a women then whats the problem? We don't even know if there is an afterlife. His beliefs are no more right than yours. Why not, instead of worrying about life after you die, live the life you are in now the way you want to live it, live your current life to the fullest, because no one knows what happens after you close your eyes for good wether it's heaven, or reincarnation, or nothing literally nothing just never ending black
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              • Aunt Betty 3 hours ago
                This letter is misguided. A message like this is only appropriate delivered face-to-face to a well-known friend. What do you hope to achieve here? It's a bit creepy to talk about Jenner's genitalia. Surely that's his private business? Publishing this letter wasn't wise and won't help the cause of Christ.
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                  • FearlessLC 7 hours ago
                    I can't wait for Jesus to come back and prove all ofthe doubters, nay sayers, and non believers wrong.
                    Every time a Christian speaks up about their beliefs we are attacked and looked at crazy. Prayer changes thing and we should pray for celebrities because they are a major influence in our children's lives.
                    We have young girls dancing to Niki Minaj and little Kim. We have young boys thinking its ok to call girls THOTS and *** .
                    This isn't really about Bruce Jenner this is about the state of Hollywood and the major impact it has on us and our families. Let's pray for him, he is hurting just like everyone else. I couldn't imagine being in his emotional state right now.
                    The sad thing is his family openly said and stated they were Christians and attend church faithfully. (Lifechange Community Church in California)
                    I'm sorry but the bible does NOT support lots of things Hollywood protays.
                    I appreciate BOLD and fearless Christians standing up for their beliefs. We are not HATERS OR GAY BASHERS because we believe what the bible says.
                    I have friends from Muslim, Buddhist, and Jewish background and they to would tell you lots of things that go on today are NOT supported by their faiths.
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                    • Kristine McLeary 11 hours ago
                      Lol the only people who push their beliefs on others are the ones who have nothing else in their lives of their own. Go get a hobby.
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                      • Dan 11 hours ago
                        Maybe jesus would like bruce jenner as a female how do you know what he thinks ?
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                        • Stephanie Smith 11 hours ago
                          Bold and beautiful. Thanks for standing strong in Christ. His love is great and He can heal a heart. I feel so sorry for Bruce. I'll be praying for him, too.
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                            • pearl87 11 hours ago
                              Funny how every sexual deviant turns up at Barb Wire to spew their "tolerance". Thank you, Matt for giving witness to the truth. Maybe one poor soul will see truth through your efforts.
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                                  • Tillee > Neptune 10 hours ago
                                    I'm sure Matt Barber would tell you that we are all sinners and have fallen short of the glory of God. Does that mean only someone as righteous as Job or Noah can counsel others? Where do Barack and Michelle get off lecturing the rest of us then? What kind of society can survive if anything goes and nobody judges?
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                                    • CrosbyTee 11 hours ago
                                      Why I know That There is a God and That He Loves Me
                                      A Personal Testimony.
                                      Allow me to share a story. Not too long ago doubt was creeping into my head
                                      about the Lord and then a miracle happened.
                                      It was 3 years ago and 50 members of my church were enroute to a bible camp
                                      in the Blueridge Mountains of Virginia. They were traveling in a chartered bus.
                                      As they sang blessed hymns to the Lord, Satan was up to his old tricks. You see,
                                      the bus driver was an atheist socialist and that day his coffee mug was filled
                                      with vodka. As the bus wound up through the switchbacks, the driver became
                                      progressively drunker. Then it happened. It was that day that changed this poor
                                      sinner's life forever. Entering a particularly tight switchback, the besotted
                                      driver finally lost control of the bus and it plummeted 1500 feet down into a
                                      ravine where it exploded into a fireball incinerating the flock. The only
                                      survivor that fateful day was a young boy who was thrown from the bus by his
                                      father seconds before it hit the bottom.
                                      This young boy suffered severe brain damage from hitting a rock head first
                                      and will have to wear a football helmet and drool cup for the remainder of his
                                      life. But his survival proved to me that miracles do happen because God does
                                      exist and loves me. The Lord caused that accident to bring me back to his
                                      flock.
                                      Hallelujah!
                                      Praise Jesus! Just open your eyes to his miracles and you will see him
                                      everywhere.
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                                      • Tae'lur Alexis 11 hours ago
                                        -_- if you are a true follower of Jesus Christ like you say you are, then you wouldn't "FOLLOW RUMORS". You're supposed to follow the truth and even though you don't know if this is true or not, you move on and wait for him to even address the topic
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                                          • sbw198003 11 hours ago
                                            Ahem...Satan not Satin...autocorrect Ty!
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                                              • sbw198003 11 hours ago
                                                The Kardashians are a demonic bunch. They're poisonous to our society and young women's psyche! Satin is their God! Well said Matt!
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                                                  • anthoney hall 12 hours ago
                                                    If everyone wants to bring god into this remember that in the bible it says he gave us free will. Let him live his life. Obviously he's made up his mind let him be. We are all to be held accountable for what we do in this life. And remember this judge not yet ye be judged. Why dose everyone choose to forget these passages of the bible.
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                                                      • gb > anthoney hall 2 hours ago
                                                        As far as I've always known we are not the one that judges. Only God has the knowledge to judge fairly.
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                                                          • pearl87 > anthoney hall 11 hours ago
                                                            I'll tell you why. Because Christians are supposed to help others find the Lord and save their eternal souls. If you saw a mentally ill person trying to run into a burning building would you make any effort to stop him? If not, then I see why you wonder at Matt Barber exposing himself to so much contempt in an effort to dissuade Mr. Jenner from his self-destructive act.
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                                                              • anthoney hall > pearl87 an hour ago
                                                                Bruce Jenner is not mentally ill so there is no comparison . No matter what anyone says, you can not stop someone from being what they are meant to be.
                                                                I am not a Christian and I will never proclaim to be. But you all cannot pick and chose what you want from the bible and throw the rest in the trash. People use their ability to witness as an invitation to judge. This is what turns people away from Christianity you'd rather condemn people then show compassion . This is the very reason why so many children find it easier to end their lives instead of face the lynch mobs. It's time this madness ends. Try love instead of judgement , peace instead of hate, and compassion instead of intolerance .
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                                                              • Kat 13 hours ago
                                                                AN OPEN LETTER TO MATT BARBER
                                                                In 2012 the Board of Trustees of the American Psychiatric Association (APA) has ratified the DSM-5, the fifth edition of what is known as "psychiatrists' bible," so as of Dec. 1, trans persons are no longer classified by the medical community as mentally ill, this decision coming 39 years after homosexuality was declassified as a mental illness by the same organization. No amount of prayer, counselling or medication could ever fix this. Can I pray away your straightness, your race, the fact that you're a man. NO! STOP MISINTERPRETING , MISQUOTING AND INSULTING THE BIBLE.
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                                                                  • S_O_T_A > Kat 9 hours ago
                                                                    Who is the APA compared to God? Did the APA create male and female from dust? They are no-one, especially when everybody in the world has a mother and father according to the paradigm God set up.
                                                                    I think it might be you who is misinterpreting.
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                                                                      • Kat > S_O_T_A 6 hours ago
                                                                        Did you know the bible is not the literal word of God, but gospels written hundreds of years after Jesus's death? Many gospels are missing from the bible. Moses wrote Genesis and the Torah. You can't pick and choose what verses to take literally and what verses to interpret as you please. What god makes a person suffer in a body in which they don't belong? Not my God. Read the
                                                                        Old Testament, New Testament and the Torah, as well as taking few classes in Hebrew and theology and get back to me.
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                                                                          • S_O_T_A > Kat 4 hours ago
                                                                            So you appeal to the Bible but undermine its authority? Absurd!
                                                                            The last of the four gospels was written by John, with discovery of fragments making a date some time before the end of the first century a near certainty. There are quite literally dozens of reasons to understand why the other gospels were written earlier, but I will name you but one - in Jn 18 Peter is named as the disciple who cut off the servants ear when Jesus was arrested, but in Mt 26 and Mk 14 he is not. The reason has a simple explanation - Peter was still alive when Mk and Mt were written, but not when John wrote his.
                                                                            Given the widely accepted date of the gospels of Mk and Mt, it is easy to understand why - Peter was still alive but by the time John wrote his gospel he was not.
                                                                            It is well accepted that the 'other' gospels were Gnostic inventions intending to capitalise on the credibility of the real articles.
                                                                            The fact is that Jesus quoted from 24 of the 39 books of the Old Testament, appointed Paul personally who wrote most of the New (quoting from 16 himself), and had very stern warnings in Revelation that I wish you would pay more attention to. Your view of scripture is clearly informed by the father of lies himself, Satan, and of no credibility.
                                                                            I note that you avoided my questions. Did the APA create male and female? Why should I listen to them? They can't even get the basics right!
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                                                                          • Tracy > Kat 12 hours ago
                                                                            Kat,
                                                                            My belief is in The Holy Bible (Word of God The Author of creation, containing such scriptures as Hebrews 13:8 and Malachi 3). The "phychiatrist's bible" to which you referred will continue to be changed/revised ongoing throughout the ages because we on earth do not/cannot achieve all the wisdom that God who created us has. I'll be interested in research, but I'll leave my faith in God.
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                                                                            • James Redford 13 hours ago
                                                                              Hi, Matt Barber. Jesus Christ Himself endorsed the concept of extreme body-modification, even as it concerned the genitals (Matthew 19:12, NKJV): "For there are eunuchs who were born thus from their mother's womb, and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He who is able to accept it, let him accept it."
                                                                              The only thing God cares about is that we treat each other as we ourselves would like others to treat us. For the details of this in Scripture, see my following article (which details physicist and mathematician Prof. Frank J. Tipler's Omega Point cosmology and the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model Theory of Everything [TOE] correctly describing and unifying all the forces in physics), particularly Sec. 7.4.4: "The Soteriology of Existence", pp. 50-52 and Sec. 7.4.2: "God's Relation to the Old Testament", pp. 46-47:
                                                                              James Redford, "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Sept. 10, 2012 (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2011), 186 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1974708.
                                                                              Furthermore, Jesus over and over again stressed the seriousness of not living in secrecy: viz., Matthew 5:14-16; 10:26-31; Mark 4:21-23; Luke 8:16,17; 11:33-36; 12:1-7; John 8:12; 11:9,10; 12:44-48; 14:6.
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                                                                                • Nidalap > James Redford 22 minutes ago
                                                                                  Ha! Wonder if similar words were heard in Soddom, you know right before it was blasted off the face of the planet.........
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                                                                                    • James Redford > Nidalap a minute ago
                                                                                      Hi, Nidalap. You wrote, "Ha! Wonder if similar words were heard in Soddom, you know right before it was blasted off the face of the planet........."
                                                                                      The crime of Sodom is that of attempted rape. As I pointed out above, the only thing God cares about is that we treat each other as we ourselves would like others to treat us. For the details of this in Scripture, see my following article (which details physicist and mathematician Prof. Frank J. Tipler's Omega Point cosmology and the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model Theory of Everything [TOE] correctly describing and unifying all the forces in physics), particularly Sec. 7.4.4: "The Soteriology of Existence", pp. 50-52 and Sec. 7.4.2: "God's Relation to the Old Testament", pp. 46-47:
                                                                                      James Redford, "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Sept. 10, 2012 (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2011), 186 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1974708.
                                                                                      Furthermore, Jesus over and over again stressed the seriousness of not living in secrecy: viz., Matthew 5:14-16; 10:26-31; Mark 4:21-23; Luke 8:16,17; 11:33-36; 12:1-7; John 8:12; 11:9,10; 12:44-48; 14:6.
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                                                                                      • pearl87 > James Redford 11 hours ago
                                                                                        Becoming a eunuch for the "kingdom of heaven's sake" is simply not what Mr. Jenner is doing, now, is it?
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                                                                                          • James Redford > pearl87 10 hours ago
                                                                                            In literal terms it is, assuming Bruce Jenner gets sex-reassignment surgery.
                                                                                            However, as I also pointed out, the only thing God cares about is that we treat each other as we ourselves would like others to treat us. For the details of this in Scripture, see my following article (which details physicist and mathematician Prof. Frank J. Tipler's Omega Point cosmology and the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model Theory of Everything [TOE] correctly describing and unifying all the forces in physics), particularly Sec. 7.4.4: "The Soteriology of Existence", pp. 50-52 and Sec. 7.4.2: "God's Relation to the Old Testament", pp. 46-47:
                                                                                            James Redford, "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Sept. 10, 2012 (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2011), 186 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1974708.
                                                                                            Furthermore, Jesus over and over again stressed the seriousness of not living in secrecy: viz., Matthew 5:14-16; 10:26-31; Mark 4:21-23; Luke 8:16,17; 11:33-36; 12:1-7; John 8:12; 11:9,10; 12:44-48; 14:6.
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                                                                                              • S_O_T_A > James Redford 9 hours ago
                                                                                                What God cares about is repentance and submission to Him; that we recognise we are eternally lost without His help to forgive sins.
                                                                                                As for your scriptural quotes, given your ludicrous twisting of the first one - which is about the light of God's truth, not the 'light' of mutilating your genitals in an act of empty desperation - I didn't bother with the rest.
                                                                                                I don't think you have any idea who Jesus is, but it is not too late to find out.
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                                                                                                  • James Redford > S_O_T_A 6 minutes ago
                                                                                                    Hi, S_O_T_A. You wrote,
                                                                                                    ""
                                                                                                    As for your scriptural quotes, given your ludicrous twisting of the first one - which is about the light of God's truth, not the 'light' of mutilating your genitals in an act of empty desperation - I didn't bother with the rest.
                                                                                                    ""
                                                                                                    Of course we are called upon to be the light of the world, as Jesus over and over again stressed the seriousness of not living in secrecy: viz., Matthew 5:14-16; 10:26-31; Mark 4:21-23; Luke 8:16,17; 11:33-36; 12:1-7; John 8:12; 11:9,10; 12:44-48; 14:6.
                                                                                                    However, it is not bodies which Yeshua Ha'Mashiach seeks to save, but rather souls (i.e., the computer programs of people's minds, operating on the wet-computers of their brains). And Christ Himself unmistakably endorsed the concept of extreme body-modification, even as it concerned the genitals (Matthew 19:12, NKJV): "For there are eunuchs who were born thus from their mother's womb, and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He who is able to accept it, let him accept it."
                                                                                                    Regarding your statement of "I don't think you have any idea who Jesus is, but it is not too late to find out": I was converted from atheism by a direct revelation from Jesus Christ.
                                                                                                    You also wrote, "What God cares about is repentance and submission to Him; that we recognise we are eternally lost without His help to forgive sins." As I pointed out above, the only thing God cares about is that we treat each other as we ourselves would like others to treat us: and yes, that we come to repentance, since we have all violated the Golden Rule, in thought if not in action. For the details of this in Scripture, see my following article (which details physicist and mathematician Prof. Frank J. Tipler's Omega Point cosmology and the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model Theory of Everything [TOE] correctly describing and unifying all the forces in physics), particularly Sec. 7.4.4: "The Soteriology of Existence", pp. 50-52 and Sec. 7.4.2: "God's Relation to the Old Testament", pp. 46-47:
                                                                                                    James Redford, "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Sept. 10, 2012 (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2011), 186 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1974708.
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                                                                                              • Cash Ross 13 hours ago
                                                                                                He's not doing his job as a Christian by assuming and judging because as a Christian, those are things you don't do. THIS is why so many people stray away from church and Christianity.
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                                                                                                • annklein 13 hours ago
                                                                                                  Matt is ONLY the messenger and speaking the God's Truth. Bruce Jenner needs to heed these words. Changing his gender is not a decision he can REALISTICALLY make, surgery or not. He is a MAN. It is very disturbing to me that a man at age 65, married 3 times, has 6 biological kids now wants to become a woman. That is super bizarre and sick at minimum. How can an OLYMPIC hero want to be a woman. Seriouslly Bruce, changing your gender is the least of your worries, you have some serious mental issues and married to Kris Jenner was probably the path of destruction.
                                                                                                  Go ahead and change your gender...it will ONLY reap evil things in your life. This is not natural and Bruce this letter is a 'wake up call'.
                                                                                                  How sick for everyone in this life to remember you changing your jennder at age 65.
                                                                                                  Simply sick and I will pray that you do not go down this horrible, evil road.
                                                                                                  This letter is excellent and speaks the TRUTH. Bruce, wake up please!!
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                                                                                                  • Unavailable 13 hours ago
                                                                                                    I stopped at the first "Jesus Christ".
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                                                                                                    • Popgirl 13 hours ago
                                                                                                      What a crock. I'm Christian and if this is who Bruce is, may he find peace. Jazz's family is christian and are raising their child transgender because it is who she is. Watch the wonderful family's documentaries on YouTube about "Jazz" and interviews also on shows following the family and educate yourself. Many of the children are suicidal being forced to live what they know they aren't. Educate yourself and start by having compassion about things you don't and can't begin to understand. Until you walk a mile in their shoes, keep your judgmental blogs to yourself. I find this being put out to the world is self-serving and shows a lack of compassion.
                                                                                                      You're not Jesus. Stop judging. Maybe people should pray for you. I pray your son isn't gay, because he would need a father who is totally accepting and proud of the person he is, and he wouldn't have that with you.
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                                                                                                        • S_O_T_A > Popgirl 9 hours ago
                                                                                                          Perhaps you didn't read the bit about people who go through what Jenner is contemplating committing suicide at 20 times the average. You have no right to claim "compassion". In fact, what you're supporting leads to lots of misery, sickness and even death.
                                                                                                          Also I note you are judging too! And invoking God but dissing His competence to create MALE and FEMALE.
                                                                                                          Do you even care what eternity holds?
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