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DiscussionI don't appreciate being accused. (self.bravefrontier)

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[–]M05H1 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (32子コメント)

Wait, wait, accepting payment is a pretty serious ethical breach.

You have any solid evidence to back up your claim that the mods & slimes took money?

[–]ugene1980 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It is against reddit site rules as well.

[–]M05H1 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, and it calls into question the fundamental decency of the people in question. A really big accusation, and we need more facts.

[–]Ironchef3377694904[S] 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (29子コメント)

http://imgur.com/Hpj3TiH

John Yang who is the gumi community team- asked me "are you aware that the sub is involved with the forum affiliate program with us?"

I responded "Yes, and twofu determins how the forum affiliate payouts are".

[–]dumbest_comment23233372 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

http://imgur.com/Hpj3TiH  John Yang who is the gumi community team- asked me "are you aware that the sub is involved with the forum affiliate program with us?" I responded "Yes, and twofu determins how the forum affiliate payouts are"

/u/twofu I've lost all respect for you.

[–]M05H1 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (27子コメント)

As in, evidence that people actually took money. Not circumstantial inferences based on a text conversation.

Like a receipt for a bank transfer, for example. Or twofu discussing payment, etc.

[–]Ironchef3377694904[S] 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (8子コメント)

http://imgur.com/GAI3vAo have another.

[–]EmgimeerG:4705564793 JP: 29919054 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (3子コメント)

....and this is why the mods can all roll a lot every batch, and keeps them an active part of the community and incentive for others to roll. makes sense to me, but damn isnt that against reddits ToS?

[–]protomayne 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well some of them actually spend (used to spend?), /u/Twofu as an example.

I will never forget that Lira thread lmao

[–]EmgimeerG:4705564793 JP: 29919054 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

ahh lira. thats around the time i started playing. i eventually got a guardian version of her. still keep her on my arena team just because, sb9

[–]fivex4325996546 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is reddit. And reddit site policies apply. I'm not happy when moderators are given incentives. No matter what their actions are, they are against the fair principles of community that reddit is about.

Mods are volunteers. Trusted members of the community to manage the sub. Getting kickbacks isn't a surprise, it's surely disappointing.

[–]CKlandSHARK 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I got 20 gems for "forum affiliation" at the end of January, is being a slime what they are from?

[–]Ironchef3377694904[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Welp. Might want to SS that if you can.

[–]CKlandSHARK 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I accepted them immediately, but if I get anymore I'll be sure to do that

[–]Floire 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Does mimic bot get paid too :o?

[–]Ironchef3377694904[S] 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (17子コメント)

http://imgur.com/janQWNk like that?

[–]M05H1 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (14子コメント)

Tell us more please.

Where did the money come from?

What amounts are we talking?

Did the mod team have to abide by certain rules or conditions determined by Gumi?

[–]Ironchef3377694904[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (13子コメント)

It wasn't money, we just got gems in our gift box.

Slimes were between 5-10 gems, the more actives mods got more, like 10-15 gems. It was whatever amount the sub earned that was then decided by twofu on how it should be distributed.

payment was based off of unique pageviews.

[–]NaztaNegative Nancy - 4940012079 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Did anyone on this sub actually believe that the owner/mods weren't being compensated...? I mean Gumi/amazon/mobogenie promos advertised makes it pretty damn obvious.

[–]M05H1 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I did.

I assumed we were having discussions about this game in a free and open manner, with no undue influence from Gumi. Hence I chose to come to this subreddit instead of Gumi's own forum.

I would be most sincerely disappointed if that was an illusion. Not so much at Gumi, but the ethically bankrupt people who were supposed to administer and moderate in a fair and equitable manner.

I would appreciate twofu's input in this accusation.

[–]NaztaNegative Nancy - 4940012079 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

You will most likely end up being disappointed...

[–]M05H1 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm dying to find out.

[–]fivex4325996546 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not surprising but definitely disappointing.

[–]kinderpinguiIGN:bisou, GB ID:4086434717 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I did too...

I mean announcing a promotion on a particular marketplace is nothing special IMO. Being a mod takes time and getting some revenue from advertising for maintaining a site is not shocking.

But where I'm disappointed is that I thought this was a totally idependent site from any game editor - seems I was wrong :/

[–]NaztaNegative Nancy - 4940012079 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is a not just a "site" though... this is a subreddit.

[–]M05H1 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

So, you're saying that you guys basically sold a bit of your soul and integrity for sporadic payments of $10??????

[–]Ironchef3377694904[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

From my end, I just did very little and got very little. Because I was a mod before Twofu became a mod, he couldn't remove me. Some months I didn't get payment because I didn't do lots of work and that was fine by me.

[–]M05H1 -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

If it is as you say, then regardless of whether you received 5 gems or 5000 gems, you cannot be trusted.

The same goes for the entire mod team and this subreddit if your accusations are correct.

[–]I_AM_EXCELLENT9035589862 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

When the only reference group for making ethical decisions are other people on the mod team, it's easy to fall into decision paralysis and not do anything about the corruption he is seeing. The fact that he left the mod team despite being a high level mod is enough proof for me. It's up to the other mods to defend themselves now.

[–]fivex4325996546 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

OMG gem injections haxxxx

[–]Floire 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mind telling me who are the users behind that names?

[–]BabyAteMyDingoes88582272 Darva(A), Maxwell 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I remember Zenrot. I was pushing for his guides to be stickied. We had an awesome time PMing about our pulls. This was back when Aisha was huge.

He was a nice guy, sad he left. :(