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[–]Adultophobe -8 ポイント-7 ポイント  (22子コメント)

I've noticed that /r/jewiscool and a handful of others here (like /u/redhawk1000 and /u/SirHumanoid) seems to be on a mission to foment anger and anti-Semitism here.

Every day, this sub has a group of people basically trying to instigate rage against Jews and the West in general. They post whatever they can find to stir up a hornet's nest, and it has become glaringly obvious to many (including, I hope, whatever authorities are keeping an eye on these clowns).

It doesn't speak very well of /r/islam that this propaganda is becoming more common.

[–]Smiley6476 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (14子コメント)

There's a big diffrence between anti-semitism and anti-Isreal.

[–]Redhawk1000 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I think its a troll, check his comment history.

[–]Sweetseeds -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Lmfao, you're telling other people to check his history?? Look at your own history. You're the definition of Internet troll. Auto is right, you instantly try to point fingers at Israel and call it a criminal state while you praise the Palestinians who elected a terrorist government. A real terrorist government that even EGYPT denounces and agrees with Israel that they are terrorists. EGYPT! If you know anything about the history of Israel And Egypt you'd realize how big of a deal it is when Israel and Egypt can agree on something.

[–]NotACat_TrustMe 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

A real terrorist government that even EGYPT denounces and agrees with Israel that they are terrorists. EGYPT

Sorry to break this to you. But the Egyptian government reached power through a coup that overthrew a democratically elected government within a year of its election and massacred a lot of its own people and still oppress them to this day. They don't have the legitimacy nor the moral high ground to decide who and who isn't a terrorist.

[–]AndTheEgyptianSmiled 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Errr..

Egypt is currently run by a dictatorship, they committed the worst massacres in the nation's history. And that's who you've chosen as support for your argument lol?

[–]AndTheEgyptianSmiled 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

(including, I hope, whatever authorities are keeping an eye on these clowns).

The irony is, you're the biggest extremist that comes here. You're obsessed with Islam and you're the one who propagates hateful dangerous talk, you can't even bare watching people stand up against racism.

You're the reason Israel loses support, you incompetent coward.

I'm adding this just for fun:

BBC: Israel actually tried to appeal a ban on using Palestinians as human shields

[–]amxn 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

No I don't feel as such. It's exactly what it says on the tin - Two boys, Two Laws.

Also, btw using Anti-Semitism in here won't be effective cause most of us here are Semites. FYI Jews aren't the only Semites.

And yes, I do acknowledge there's some Anti-Israeli content on here. But nothing AFAIK which is Anti-Jewish. Some of those posts might not even be relevant to this sub.

As long as we're on this subject matter. As a Muslim and a member of /r/islam I and most of us don't really have anything against Jews. Some of our families are partly Jewish, and we aren't all Arab nationalists either.

Every day, this sub has a group of people basically trying to instigate rage against Jews and the West in general.

Please post some references before making such a huge claim (also if any action is to be taken).

Some of us are in the West. Some of us believe that Secular Education along with Islamic studies makes us appreciate Islam better. The Islamic rights of women are protected more in the West, so on and so forth. Sweeping generalizations must be avoided.

That being said, irrational hatred will not be tolerated. Islam doesn't discriminate against any particular race and was for the entirety of mankind.

And we are aware and acknowledge that there have been some great injustices against the Jews, particularly the expulsion of Jewish citizens from the Arab states. But not many Jews acknowledge the daily injustices Muslims, Christians and sometimes even some Jews undergo under the occupation of the Holy Land.

Muslims and Jews have been allies since Islam was revealed and share a common past. We've been through the Inquisition and countless horrors together and only in recent time has the split occurred. Insha Allah we wish for a day when we can split some hummus amongst ourselves.

[–]Smiley6476 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Insha Allah we wish for a day were we can split some hummus amongst ourselves.

Ameen to that!!

[–]mattityahu 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Also, btw using Anti-Semitism in here won't be effective cause most of us here are Semites. FYI Jews aren't the only Semites.

You don't understand the definition of anti-Semitism. Saying "well, I'm a Semite (Arab), therefore I can't be anti-Semitic" doesn't hold up to logic for two main reasons:

  1. There are plenty of Jews who are themselves anti-Semites. Your ethnic or linguistic background can't prevent you from holding certain beliefs. It's the same as someone saying, "I'm Black, so I can't be racist." It just doesn't make sense, and in that case is oxymoronic.

  2. Anti-Semitism does not, and never has meant hatred of Semites. It has always, only meant hatred of Jews. From Wikipedia:

the term was in fact coined in Germany in 1873 as a scientific-sounding term for Judenhass ("Jew-hatred")

What if I said that since Muslim means "one who submits to God," I, as a religious Jew, am one who submits to God, and therefore a Muslim, so I can't be an Islamophobe (I really can't be one because I'm not bigoted, but that wouldn't help in this argument). I can also point out that Muhammad originally included the Jews of Medina as part of the Umma and prayed alongside them, so I have Muslim heritage.

And yes, I do acknowledge there's some Anti-Israeli content on here. But nothing AFAIK which is Anti-Jewish. Some of those posts might not even be relevant to this sub.

Oh please. This guy's username is /u/jewiscool and constantly posts anti-Israel, "borderline" anti-Semitic posts. If my username was /u/muslimiscool and constantly posted "borderline" Islamophobic posts? People like him and /u/Redhawk1000 are obsessed with Israel and Jews and spout unfounded conspiracy theories that are eaten up on this sub. When I counter that those conspiracies are anti-Semitic and his claims, like when he said Israel was going to attack Al-Aqsa last Passover, are centuries old and never come to pass, I'm downvoted to hell.

particularly the expulsion of Jewish citizens from the Arab states

I've never heard this acknowledged before here. That is encouraging.

But not many Jews acknowledge the daily injustices Muslims, Christians and sometimes even some Jews undergo under the occupation of the Holy Land.

The framing of this statement is off. Most Jews and Israeli recognize that Israel has its problems with minorities and that non-Jews often face unofficial discrimination. However, we also feel that this happens in every country but is only turned into massive international news when it happens in Israel. Even with the problems they do face, Muslims and Christians are still freer and more secure in Israel than anywhere else in the Middle East. We think it's unfair and the constant focus on Israel's minor wrongs, while ignoring those far greater wrongs has its basis in anti-Semitism.

Muslims and Jews have been allies since Islam was revealed and share a common past.

We were allies at the very beginning until our treaty was broken (you say we broke it, we say you broke it, but at this point, who knows?). Since then we haven't been allies, rather you've been in charge and we've been subject to your whims (sometimes it was good, sometimes it was bad, but we didn't have much choice in the matter). Now that the tables are turned (in .1% of the Middle East) and we are the ones in power, your view of the situation is different, but if we're allies it shouldn't be. I'm happy for Muslims to live in Israel, I'm just not happy for them to want to destroy my only state.

Insha Allah we wish for a day when we can split some hummus amongst ourselves.

Finally something we can all agree on. Assalamu Aleikum

[–]neewshine 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

anti-semitisme?do you know what's the definition?we(Arabs) are also the children of Sam son of Noah(pbuta),and children of Ismael son of Abraham (pbuta),so we've the same roots as Jews! we are not anti-semetics because we can't be anti-ourselves! Jews lived between us Arabs for more than 2000 years,if we were anti-jews, and had the intention and an Islamic approval (as you maybe are imagining) to exterminate them,there would be no remaining Jews today! it's the inverse of what's being told to you,they lived,still and will live with us in our Arabic countries as a part of our societies, in peace,go read the history of Andalusia (just as an example of what i said)! we're anti-israel,that's all. anti-semitisme is a huge lie,bluff.

[–]mattityahu 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Actually, you're the one who doesn't know the definition of anti-Semitism. Saying "well, I'm a Semite (Arab), therefore I can't be anti-Semitic" doesn't hold up to logic for two main reasons:

  1. There are plenty of Jews who are themselves anti-Semites. Your ethnic or linguistic background can't prevent you from holding certain beliefs. It's the same as someone saying, "I'm Black, so I can't be racist." It just doesn't make sense, and in that case is oxymoronic.

  2. Anti-Semitism does not, and never has meant hatred of Semites. It has always, only meant hatred of Jews. From Wikipedia:

the term was in fact coined in Germany in 1873 as a scientific-sounding term for Judenhass ("Jew-hatred")

What if I said that since Muslim means "one who submits to God," I, as a religious Jew, am one who submits to God, and therefore a Muslim, so I can't be an Islamophobe (I really can't be one because I'm not bigoted, but that wouldn't help in this argument). I can also point out that Muhammad originally included the Jews of Medina as part of the Umma and prayed alongside them, so I have Muslim heritage.

[–]neewshine -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

you're tricking people here,saying for example that a black man can't be racist is not accurate,he can't be anti-black(hating his own race & color ),but can be a racist (with Asian race for ex)! anti-semetisme is not the same as anti-jews,Jews are practicers of Judaism,Muslims are practicers of Islam, you can't be a Muslim if you hate Muslims, you have to differentiate between race and religion! we're not anti-jews,i told you they still live in many Islamic countries as a part of them,but we're anti-zionistes! Zionism is not Judaism, that's what's being fed to you in your media!