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My answer to DIBS: shoveled out 5 spaces in my neighborhood this morning on my day off. Will do more this afternoon. Public parking is public. (imgur.com)
Renard21 が 11 時間 前 投稿
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[–]snex00 -9 ポイント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント 10 時間 前 (35子コメント)
If public parking is public, why must individuals shovel the snow out? Shouldn't that be the government's job?
[–]linds360 5 ポイント6 ポイント7 ポイント 10 時間 前 (15子コメント)
When cars are parked all along the street, snow plows can get to the snow in the middle of the road, but generally end up boxing in the parked cars with snow, so you have to take a shovel to all the snow around your car.
[+]snex00 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-13 ポイント-12 ポイント-11 ポイント 10 時間 前 (14子コメント)
Why doesn't the government send men with shovels to do this for us? Public parking is public! At the very least the OP who does their job better than they do should get a tax break.
[–]Cforq 5 ポイント6 ポイント7 ポイント 9 時間 前 (13子コメント)
Why doesn't the government send men with shovels to do this for us?
I think that would be inefficient use of government funds. That would require salaries, benefits, and figuring out what those people will do when there isn't a snow storm.
[+]snex00 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-10 ポイント-9 ポイント-8 ポイント 9 時間 前 (12子コメント)
But the plow trucks don't require salaries, benefits, and figuring out what those people will do when there isn't a snow storm?
I mean, is the parking actually public or isn't it? Why should individuals be stuck shoveling out anything that is public?
[–]hobbituaryWest Town 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 9 時間 前 (11子コメント)
So in your eyes either there should be no taxes at all, or the government should spend wildly and have plows and workers on every street clearing out every single spot. It's one extreme or the other? There is no in between for you? Are you really this stupid.
[–]snex00 -5 ポイント-4 ポイント-3 ポイント 8 時間 前 (10子コメント)
Don't call something "public" if it isn't really public. That's just dishonest. If the government isn't up to the task, then allow smart fellows like the OP to profit from their hard work.
Oh, but I'm sure our upvotes will put food in his children's mouths.
[–]hobbituaryWest Town 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 8 時間 前* (9子コメント)
It is public. Everyone pays into it, and everyone gets to use it. I don't see how you think it isn't public. Having more government workers shoveling between cars won't make it more public. The government is up to the task. Considering what resources they have on the budget they are facing, I think they do a fantastic job.
OP could profit from this if he wanted. Nothing is stopping him from doing that. Whether or not it has "LLC" next to his name is the only difference.
[–]snex00 -4 ポイント-3 ポイント-2 ポイント 8 時間 前 (8子コメント)
The whole point is that we don't get to use it because those funds don't cover the cost of full snow removal.
Do you even know how much you pay in? When's the last time you got a receipt?
[–]hobbituaryWest Town 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 7 時間 前 (7子コメント)
Ah, so you want more funds through taxes to pay for city workers to clear the space around your car because you're too lazy to do it yourself. You're such a statist, man...
[–]d1sturb4nc3 7 ポイント8 ポイント9 ポイント 10 時間 前 (7子コメント)
City does major streets before side streets. It might take a while for side ones to get plowed. I don't condone dibs
[+]snex00 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント-5 ポイント 10 時間 前 (6子コメント)
So maybe OP should get a tax refund for doing the government's job better than they could.
[–]hobbituaryWest Town 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 9 時間 前 (5子コメント)
Are you suggesting that the city goes full mythbusters in order to clear the street of snow?
[–]SenorAndersonEdgewater 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 9 時間 前 (0子コメント)
What episode is that? I need to watch it!
[–]snex00 -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 9 時間 前 (3子コメント)
I'm suggesting that if you want to claim that it's "public," then the government should take some responsibility.
If they aren't up to the job, stop pretending it is "public" and let people own their own parking spots.
[–]hobbituaryWest Town 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 8 時間 前 (2子コメント)
And the middle of the road? What would happen in your magical little bubble when plows come through and pile snow onto people's cars in spots they "own"? Or would people own little slips of the road too? What if they don't feel like shoveling? It's their property so they don't have to shovel then, right?
[–]R_TOKARUptown 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 5 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Nothing would happen. Because snex whatever is a batshit insane libertarian who does not live in the reality you and I and 99% of the public does.
[+]snex00 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント-5 ポイント 8 時間 前 (0子コメント)
And the middle of the road?
Is there some magical barrier that prevents OP's shovel from accessing the middle of the road?
What would happen in your magical little bubble when plows come through and pile snow onto people's cars in spots they "own"?
Sounds like vandalism to me. We should sue the plow owner for it.
Or would people own little slips of the road too? What if they don't feel like shoveling? It's their property so they don't have to shovel then, right?
Then OP makes a lucrative new career choice and charges them for his shoveling their road parcels, or buys up their share of the road and makes a profitable business out of maintaining it.
[–]Quarter_CentenarianAvondale 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 5 時間 前 (10子コメント)
You're more than welcome to leave your car buried until the snow melts. No one is forcing you to drive.
[+]snex00 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント 5 時間 前 (9子コメント)
Then give me my taxes back. Services are not being rendered, so I am entitled to a refund.
[–]Quarter_CentenarianAvondale 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 5 時間 前 (8子コメント)
You're also free to leave it until the street gets plowed. You're not special. I pay the same taxes, and I don't own a car.
[–]snex00 -4 ポイント-3 ポイント-2 ポイント 5 時間 前 (7子コメント)
The street being plowed doesn't clean the spot.
And by the way, I pay for a spot in a private garage, so we are both being forced to pay for something we don't actually use and that the government still can't maintain adequate service for, so why would you ever defend them on this matter?
[–]Quarter_CentenarianAvondale 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 5 時間 前 (6子コメント)
I'm not convinced it's the city's job to clear the immediate space around already parked cars. If it is, I'm glad they're not doing it because it's likely cost prohibitive, and those costs, if forced to be done, would be passed on in the form of higher taxes or fees.
If a person wants his/home car out, s/he can shovel, as has been happening. If not, leave it.
[–]snex00 -4 ポイント-3 ポイント-2 ポイント 5 時間 前 (5子コメント)
I'm not convinced it's the city's job to clear the immediate space around already parked cars.
If it's not their job, then those spots are not public and dibs are valid.
If it is, I'm glad they're not doing it because it's likely cost prohibitive, and those costs, if forced to be done, would be passed on in the form of higher taxes or fees.
But I thought the government works for us? Why aren't they just doing it at a loss?
And thus, dibs. Don't complain about the results created by incentives you want in place.
[–]Quarter_CentenarianAvondale 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 5 時間 前 (4子コメント)
No, the spots are still public. I'm required to shovel my sidewalk too or face ticketing. The city doesn't do it for me even though it has an easement over that stretch of land, effectively making it public. If driving is so important to you, you take the good (access to your car) with the bad (the spot is open game when you leave). Once again, if that deal doesn't sound fair to you, leave your car parked and take the train/bus.
[–]snex00 -4 ポイント-3 ポイント-2 ポイント 5 時間 前 (3子コメント)
I bet most Soviets talked just like you while standing in the bread lines, not realizing that they didn't have to be stuck with food shortages.
But you believers in government will never give up your religion, will you?
[–]Quarter_CentenarianAvondale 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 4 時間 前 (2子コメント)
I'm no fan of the government. If you want to change the law, go nuts. But as it stands right now, public property doesn't get converted to private for any amount of time because you shoveled fucking snow.
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