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My [32F] baby girl [2F] was attacked by my in-laws' dog, they insist the dog is innocentNon-Romantic (self.relationships)

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[–]Shmooshums 40 ポイント41 ポイント  (17子コメント)

Your daughter isn't a dog murderer. The dog is an attempted baby murderer. Anyone who doesn't see the dog needs to be put down is insane. Are they covering your medical bills?

[–]Hawkknight88 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (16子コメント)

Anyone who doesn't see the dog needs to be put down is insane.

I don't think the dog needs to be put down. I think it needs trained and supervised around children.

There are plenty of dog breeds who are known not to be gentle with kids. We don't fucking kill them all; we keep them separate or train them.

http://www.dogreference.com/15-worst-dog-breeds-to-get-along-with-kids/

Why is your reaction to this to "KILL THE DOG"? I simply don't see it that way.

[–]dilwardsrevenge 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (14子コメント)

Because this dog tried to kill a child.

[–]Hawkknight88 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Again. I simply don't see it that way. And it's still the owner's fault for creating that situation.

We can agree to disagree. But, objectively, I fail to see how killing the dog will solve any of this.

[–]mariyagami 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would hate to have this happen to one of my pets. But (and this is my own experience) such thing as escalation with pets. And also a tendency to repeat violent acts once the first one has happened. Example of one of the situations in which I have seen this (this is the one that stuck the most because of how horrible it was):

Had a neighbor come home to one of his dogs shred to pieces because his 2 other dogs had ripped her apart while he was gone. Prior to that the dogs had never been violent, except for the week before in which a stray cat fell into his backyard and they did the exact same thing to the poor thing. The owner was super dismissive about it and proceeded to keep them in the same area his smaller, older dog was.

It also matters if the person they attacked was someone they are supposed to be familiar with.

In this case, killing the dog DOES address the issue. I will say it can be done in a much better way, like someone mentioned elsewhere, by rehoming it to a family without kids and that would actually bother training it. That would potentially work as well. But just because we don't like hearing about a dog being put down, it doesn't mean that in this situation it would keep him from causing more harm.

[–]TehRedBaron 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (5子コメント)

No, when a "pet" causes severe injuries to a person, you put it down. Period. No excuses, no exceptions. It's too dangerous to keep.

[–]StuffsNThings 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Right. Because a 2 year old totally couldn't have accidentally aggravated or cornered the animal.

[–]TehRedBaron 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (3子コメント)

That's beyond irrelevant. If a dog can't handle being aggravated or cornered without severely mauling someone, it is unsuitable to keep it as a pet. It's too much of a risk to people, and needs to be put down.

[–]StuffsNThings 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's easy to severely maul a 2 year old. A dog breed that's designed to hunt small animals could do it with almost no effort. Do you understand these things are animals? With instincts? Breed for centuries for specific purposes?

If you go around aggravating and cornering dogs and get mad at them when they bite you... Yea. That's animal abuse. The only difference is a 2 year old doesn't know it.

[–]TehRedBaron 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Do you understand these things are animals? With instincts? Breed for centuries for specific purposes?

Yes, and that's the reason why they're dangerous, not an excuse for it.

[–]StuffsNThings 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That they're dangerous is the reason you don't leave a 2 year old alone with them. Because they don't know how to act around an animal!

You literally said I should be able to aggravate and corner an animal and expect it not to attack me. That's freaking insane.

[–]cloudsatnight 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The dog will never harm another child. Problem solved.

[–]Ambassador_Ch0n 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Something tells me your reaction would be quite different were it YOUR child being mauled by a vicious animal.

[–]Kleptocupcake 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Well.... Even though the dog did a lot of damage, it still wasn't trying to kill the poor child. If he had been, he would have gone for the neck, not the face. Dogs go for the face to teach a lesson, not kill. Even still, as a grown adult, I'd stay away from that dog

[–]imdwalrus -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (2子コメント)

You're seriously going to argue the dog's intent based on the couple inches between a child's lower face and neck? Like the dog is somehow a precise laser-guided weapon even though the poor child fought back?

Wow.

EDIT: this is like saying that the guy who shot the gun wasn't really trying to kill you because the bullet missed your heart by a couple inches. We obviously can't know the dog's intent but you do not try to dismiss or lessen the incident. Whether nature or nurture the dog is dangerous and needs to be put down - and I say as someone whose parents were smart enough to get rid of our first dog when she started showing signs of aggression around small children, aka me and my sister.

[–]Kleptocupcake 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ummm... I was not defending the dog at all.... Sorry you misinterpreted that I was

[–]imdwalrus -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Even though the dog did a lot of damage, it still wasn't trying to kill the poor child.

How is that not defending the dog? And if it isn't then why would you possibly say that? Because I'm really having trouble seeing any other possible context for it.

[–]Shmooshums 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The dog ripped a toddler's lip off. It has been very poorly trained. If someone wanted to rehabilitate, then fucking fantastic. Otherwise it needs to be put down.