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    What happened when I confronted my cruellest troll

    I’m often deluged with hate online – and I’m used to being told not to feed the trolls. But after one of them stole my dead dad’s identity to abuse me, I decided to ask him why
    Lindy West with her dad Paul
    Lindy West with her dad Paul.
    For the past three years or so, at least one stranger has sought me out pretty much every day to call me a fat bitch (or some pithy variation thereof). I’m a writer and a woman and a feminist, and I write about big, fat, bitchy things that make people uncomfortable. And because I choose to do that as a career, I’m told, a constant barrage of abuse is just part of my job. Shrug. Nothing we can do. I’m asking for it, apparently.
    Being harassed on the internet is such a normal, common part of my life that I’m always surprised when other people find it surprising. You’re telling me you don’t have hundreds of men popping into your cubicle in the accounting department of your mid-sized, regional dry-goods distributor to inform you that – hmm – you’re too fat to rape, but perhaps they’ll saw you up with an electric knife? No? Just me? People who don’t spend much time on the internet are invariably shocked to discover the barbarism – the eager abandonment of the social contract – that so many of us face simply for doing our jobs.
    A young Lindy West with her parents.
    A young Lindy with her parents.
    Sometimes the hate trickles in slowly, just one or two messages a day. But other times, when I’ve written something particularly controversial (ie feminist) – like, say, my critique of men feeling entitled to women’s time and attention, or literally anything about rape – the harassment comes in a deluge. It floods my Twitter feed, my Facebook page, my email, so fast that I can’t even keep up (not that I want to).
    It was in the middle of one of these deluges two summers ago when my dead father contacted me on Twitter.
    At the time, I’d been writing a lot about the problem of misogyny (specifically jokes about rape) in the comedy world. My central point – which has been gleefully misconstrued as “pro-censorship” ever since – was that what we say affects the world we live in, that words are both a reflection of and a catalyst for the way our society operates. When you talk about rape, I said, you get to decide where you aim: are you making fun of rapists? Or their victims? Are you making the world better? Or worse? It’s not about censorship, it’s not about obligation, it’s not about forcibly limiting anyone’s speech – it’s about choice. Who are you? Choose.
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    The backlash from comedy fans was immediate and intense: “That broad doesn’t have to worry about rape.” “She won’t ever have to worry about rape.” “No one would want to rape that fat, disgusting mess.” “Holes like this make me want to commit rape out of anger.” It went on and on, to the point that it was almost white noise. After a week or so, I was feeling weather-beaten but fortified. Nothing could touch me anymore.
    But then there was my dad’s dear face twinkling out at me from my Twitter feed. Someone – bored, apparently, with the usual angles of harassment – had made a fake Twitter account purporting to be my dead dad, featuring a stolen, beloved photo of him, for no reason other than to hurt me. The name on the account was “PawWestDonezo”, because my father’s name was Paul West, and a difficult battle with prostate cancer had rendered him “donezo” (goofy slang for “done”) just 18 months earlier. “Embarrassed father of an idiot,” the bio read. “Other two kids are fine, though.” His location was “Dirt hole in Seattle”.
    My dad was special. The only thing he valued more than wit was kindness. He was a writer and an ad man and a magnificent baritone (he could write you a jingle and record it on the same day) – a lost breed of lounge pianist who skipped dizzyingly from jazz standards to Flanders and Swann to Lord Buckley and back again – and I can genuinely say that I’ve never met anyone else so universally beloved, nor do I expect to again. I loved him so, so much.
    There’s a term for this brand of gratuitous online cruelty: we call it internet trolling. Trolling is recreational abuse – usually anonymous – intended to waste the subject’s time or get a rise out of them or frustrate or frighten them into silence. Sometimes it’s relatively innocuous (like asking contrarian questions just to start an argument) or juvenile (like making fun of my weight or my intelligence), but – particularly when the subject is a young woman – it frequently crosses the line into bona fide, dangerous stalking and harassment.
    And even “innocuous” harassment, when it’s coming at you en masse from hundreds or even thousands of users a day, stops feeling innocuous very quickly. It’s a silencing tactic. The message is: you are outnumbered. The message is: we’ll stop when you’re gone. The volume and intensity of harassment is vastly magnified for women of colour and trans women and disabled women and fat women and sex workers and other intersecting identities. Who gets trolled has a direct impact on who gets to talk; in my personal experience, the fiercest trolling has come from traditionally white, male-dominated communities (comedy, video games, atheism) whose members would like to keep it that way.
    I feel the pull all the time: I should change careers; I should shut down my social media; maybe I can get a job in print somewhere; it’s just too exhausting. I hear the same refrains from my colleagues. Sure, we’ve all built up significant armour at this point, but, you know, armour is heavy. Internet trolling might seem like an issue that only affects a certain subset of people, but that’s only true if you believe that living in a world devoid of diverse voices – public discourse shaped primarily by white, heterosexual, able-bodied men – wouldn’t profoundly affect your life.
    Sitting at my computer, staring at PawWestDonezo, I had precious few options. All I could do, really, was ignore it: hit “block” and move on, knowing that that account was still out there, hidden behind a few gossamer lines of code, still putting words in my dad’s mouth, still using his image to mock, abuse and silence people. After all, it’s not illegal to reach elbow-deep into someone’s memories and touch them and twist them and weaponise them (to impress the ghost of Lenny Bruce or whatever). Nor should it be, of course. But that doesn’t mean we have to tolerate it without dissent.
    Lindy West's father Paul West at his piano onstage
    Paul West: ‘A magnificent baritone and a lost breed of lounge pianist.’
    Over and over, those of us who work on the internet are told, “Don’t feed the trolls. Don’t talk back. It’s what they want.” But is that true? Does ignoring trolls actually stop trolling? Can somebody show me concrete numbers on that? Anecdotally, I’ve ignored far more trolls than I’ve “fed”, and my inbox hasn’t become any quieter. When I speak my mind and receive a howling hurricane of abuse in return, it doesn’t feel like a plea for my attention – it feels like a demand for my silence.
    And some trolls are explicit about it. “If you can’t handle it, get off the internet.” That’s a persistent refrain my colleagues and I hear when we confront our harassers. But why? Why don’t YOU get off the internet? Why should I have to rearrange my life – and change careers, essentially – because you wet your pants every time a woman talks?
    My friends say, “Just don’t read the comments.” But just the other day, for instance, I got a tweet that said, “May your bloodied head rest on the edge of an Isis blade.” Colleagues and friends of mine have had their phone numbers and addresses published online (a harassment tactic known as “doxing”) and had trolls show up at their public events or threaten mass shootings. So if we don’t keep an eye on what people are saying, how do we know when a line has been crossed and law enforcement should be involved? (Not that the police have any clue how to deal with online harassment anyway – or much interest in trying.)
    Social media companies say, “Just report any abuse and move on. We’re handling it.” So I do that. But reporting abuse is a tedious, labour-intensive process that can eat up half my working day. In any case, most of my reports are rejected. And once any troll is blocked (or even if they’re suspended), they can just make a new account and start all over again.
    I’m aware that Twitter is well within its rights to let its platform be used as a vehicle for sexist and racist harassment. But, as a private company – just like a comedian mulling over a rape joke, or a troll looking for a target for his anger – it could choose not to. As a collective of human beings, it could choose to be better.
    So, when it came to the case of PawWestDonezo, I went off script: I stopped obsessing over what he wanted and just did what felt best to me that day. I wrote about it publicly, online. I made myself vulnerable. I didn’t hide the fact it hurt. The next morning, I woke up to an email:
    Hey Lindy, I don’t know why or even when I started trolling you. It wasn’t because of your stance on rape jokes. I don’t find them funny either.
    I think my anger towards you stems from your happiness with your own being. It offended me because it served to highlight my unhappiness with my own self.
    I have e-mailed you through 2 other gmail accounts just to send you idiotic insults.
    I apologize for that.
    I created the PaulWestDunzo@gmail.com account & Twitter account. (I have deleted both.)
    I can’t say sorry enough.
    It was the lowest thing I had ever done. When you included it in your latest Jezebel article it finally hit me. There is a living, breathing human being who is reading this shit. I am attacking someone who never harmed me in any way. And for no reason whatsoever.
    I’m done being a troll.
    Again I apologize.
    I made donation in memory to your dad.
    I wish you the best.
    He had donated $50 to Seattle Cancer Care Alliance, where my dad was treated.
    That email still unhinges my jaw every time I read it. A reformed troll? An admission of weakness and self-loathing? An apology? I wrote back once, expressed my disbelief and said thank you – and that was that. I returned to my regular routine of daily hate mail, scrolling through the same options over and over – Ignore? Block? Report? Engage? – but every time I faced that choice, I thought briefly of my remorseful troll.
    Last summer, when a segment of video game fans began a massive harassment campaign against female critics and developers (if you want to know more, Google “GamerGate”, then shut your laptop and throw it into the sea), my thoughts wandered back to him more and more. I wondered if I could learn anything from him. And then it struck me: why not find out?
    Lindy West at the 2013 Women's Media Awards in New York City
    Lindy at the 2013 Women’s Media Awards in New York City. Photograph: Mike Coppola/Getty Images
    We only had made that one, brief exchange, in the summer of 2013, but I still had his email address. I asked the popular US radio programme This American Life to help me reach out to him. They said yes. They emailed him. After a few months of gruelling silence, he finally wrote back. “I’d be happy to help you out in any way possible,” he said.
    And then, there I was in a studio with a phone – and the troll on the other end.
    We talked for two-and-a-half hours. He was shockingly self-aware. He told me that he didn’t hate me because of rape jokes – the timing was just a coincidence – he hated me because, to put it simply, I don’t hate myself. Hearing him explain his choices in his own words, in his own voice, was heartbreaking and fascinating. He said that, at the time, he felt fat, unloved, “passionless” and purposeless. For some reason, he found it “easy” to take that out on women online.
    I asked why. What made women easy targets? Why was it so satisfying to hurt us? Why didn’t he automatically see us as human beings? For all his self-reflection, that’s the one thing he never managed to articulate – how anger at one woman translated into hatred of women in general. Why, when men hate themselves, it’s women who take the beatings.
    But he did explain how he changed. He started taking care of his health, he found a new girlfriend and, most importantly, he went back to school to become a teacher. He told me – in all seriousness – that, as a volunteer at a school, he just gets so many hugs now. “Seeing how their feelings get hurt by their peers,” he said, “on purpose or not, it derails them for the rest of the day. They’ll have their head on their desk and refuse to talk. As I’m watching this happen, I can’t help but think about the feelings that I hurt.” He was so sorry, he said.
    I didn’t mean to forgive him, but I did.
    This story isn’t prescriptive. It doesn’t mean that anyone is obliged to forgive people who abuse them, or even that I plan on being cordial and compassionate to every teenage boy who tells me I’m too fat to get raped (sorry in advance, boys: I still bite). But, for me, it’s changed the timbre of my online interactions – with, for instance, the guy who responded to my radio story by calling my dad a “faggot”. It’s hard to feel hurt or frightened when you’re flooded with pity. And that, in turn, has made it easier for me to keep talking in the face of a mob roaring for my silence. Keep screaming, trolls. I see you.
    Hear Lindy West’s show at This American Life

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    • 0 1
      Troll here. I hope you can consider the possibility that the apology itself is part of the troll. That the donation is also part of the troll and that the trolling continues. Trolling isn't necessarily Mean or insulting by definition. Trolling can be kind and empathetic and apologetic. Trolls even use marriage to troll. They get married but the whole marriage isn't real to them. It's part of the trolling. It's meta-trolling.
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      One nit: Getting a job in print somewhere is no solution. I'm a newspaper columnist and the trolls still come.
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      In fact, I would expect more empathy from someone who perceives themselves as a minority (although I don't think that a woman who carries some body fat is technically in the minority, although I certainly understand the reasons for your perceptions, as would any truthful person). Atheists are an unfairly maligned minority. Nothing about being an atheist promotes or precipitates cruel behavior. In fact, we are good people simply because is it the right and moral way to be, not because we feel threatened by a god or hell.
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      You lost me when you accused atheists of being trolls. Wrong, wrong, wrong.
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    • 1 2
      Trolling is going on CiF Belief, advocating creation science, and watching the internet atheists work themselves up into a frenzy. It's going into an article on Tracy Emin, proclaiming her the greatest artist of the 21st century, and laughing at the spluttering, indignant replies. It's going to the Mail Online, suggesting that the government should dissuade benefit-claiming asylum seekers from learning English, and fleeing. Put simply, trolling is the act of winding up the pompous, the self-absorbed, and the delusional for laughs - it's hilarious. The person described in this article is a nut-job.
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    • 0 1
      Someone trolled a guy whose dog had died. The guy complained. But why post about your dog dying when you know there are nasty, twisted people out there ready to troll you over it? This is the reason
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    • 5 6
      Reading this (I am a writer) I was moved by your brilliance, writing style, and amazing humanity. I am a fan Lindy West.
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    • 5 6
      It is such a shame that in this day and age, with all of the power that the Internet holds and the good it can achieve, that some people find it in themselves to utilise it to it's very worst ambition.
      It is vital to remember, which you have highlighted so brilliantly, that almost always, when receiving negative opinions, the person bringing negative energy to the conversation is the person who is themselves suffering from a deep self hatred they reflect upon others in a vain attempt to make you feel how they so desperately do not want to feel.
      Reject this negativity and continue to stand by your views and thoughts.
      May your father rest in peace.
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    • 4 5
      I nearly never comment because I hate comment sections... But that's a great story, Lindy. Stay vocal!
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    • 7 8
      I'm interested in the psychology behind trolling, specifically, what is making these men so desperate and angry? It can't just be rejection from women that makes them behave this way. Perhaps it's a sense of entitlement, that they believe they deserve to "get" women out of their league. And are angry when they don't. Or perhaps their excessive porn consumption has desensitised them from seeing women as people, instead of as objects. Whatever the reason, the law needs to change to protect victims of this abuse. I think Lindy was extremely brave to confront him, I don't think I could have been so restrained.
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        It's a bunch of things, but I think you hit upon a few of the more important, or at least obvious points.
        A twisted view or understanding of sex and sexuality through porn consumption, a sense of entitlement, anger at themselves for failing to meet societies expectations (you must sleep with many attractive women, in as debacherous a way as possible by the time you're 25, otherwise you are not a man. Because for the MRM, manhood should solely revolve around the sex you're having, and making sure the women around you are providing it) And anger at women, for not helping them meet their own twisted expectations of themselves.
        Aka Toxic Masculinity.
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      • 0 1
        Trolling is a type of bullying, which is to treat others as mere objects to be "messed with" for one's own amusement. It seems to me that bullying is just something that automatically fills a vacuum when parents/society don't actively teach its opposite, which is empathy.
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    • 1 2
      I think the reason for feminist trolling by men is fairly simple, though requires no small explanation. Men tend to be in some part socialised and in some part otherwise prone to practice and refine their emotional competitiveness from a very early age. They can learn to get extremely good at trying to take a verbal stab at each other and trying to counter any incoming attempts from others. The result is a kind of pecking order based on social skills, awareness of trends and quick wittedness. Amongst the top of this emergent hierarchy "banter" occurs, and between the top and bottom occurs "bullying". The former can be extremely fun and the latter only satisfying in one direction (the other direction is obviously horrific). It can be deemed immature and uncivilised because there are no bounds (it can be mature and civilised too), but it's an all-out power game - you either adapt or face the consequences.
      Trying to change this is failing to adapt and those who try end up facing the consequences - male or female - unless they are already at "the top". I am neither condoning nor apologising for this phenomenon, simply explaining from where the "trolling" problem originates. Of course it's absolutely not fair (if you define fair as equal) and yes, the only way to "win" is to be "the best". I'm not suggesting that females never grow up coming to terms with their own power games, but it seems very much as though there's an overall difference between the female versions and the male ones - I apologise for my sexism here but I don't see way of denying this overall divide. Females are simply rarely "phased" into the male version. If you can't compete then join the very many males at the bottom of this hierarchy that none of them ever chose. We often grow into this challenge and so have an unfair advantage on you, and can often absolutely understand how it feels. I know it's not popular for men to suggest that they have any experience comparable to the feminist battle because it diverts attention from the intended focus. But if this offends anyone, I'm sorry but it is often true that many feminist battles are not solely feminist. Many times they are and I support those battles absolutely. Knowing the difference is just one way of becoming a more effective feminist. These "trolls" only target weakness when it's there. Lindy is simply not trained in dealing with this kind of merciless emotional onslaught, as she freely admits, but the only surefire way to eliminate the trolling that seemingly "comes with the job" is for feminism to become better at "banter" and separating this from issues that really are overwhelmingly much more relevant to women - at least temporarily. No this isn't ideal, and no it's not pleasant, it's even "playing the male game", but this is the reality of "trolling". The fact that Lindy's very vulnerable retort about confronting personal issues happened to work is going to remain very much the exception until this issue is addressed. I just wanted to help by putting this particular "feminist" issue into perspective, and I hope for a reasonable, open-minded response, if any.
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      I'd like to think that trolls, are uneducated buffoons, however I'd also wager, that trolls come from all walks of life. But I'd like these horrendous people, to turn these comments around on themselves, as though they themselves were being maliciously attacked, surely it wouldn't take much to realise the absolute hate they spread, is down right appalling, if they reflected what they say, unto themselves. Glancing at some of the posts, also indicates a blind eye, with one I saw saying, people only hate because of condescending remarks, that was made to gamers, 're gamergate, but that absolutely doesn't justify rape and death threats! My God people, nothing, nothing at all justifies any form of violent attack!
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        Until a troll reaches a certain level of maturity (assuming that their experiences lead them down such a path), they lack the self-awareness and empathy necessary to view their actions as anything other justified attacks made against a deserving enemy OR harmless remarks made on the internet.
        Even when placing their remarks in context (i.e. violent threats against someone who said something negative about their favorite video game), they see no problem with what they do because they are right, and holy. And the person they are attacking is a 1 dimensional being that is the sole embodiment of whatever thing the troll disagree's with.
        It's a sad dehumanization of people that they engage in. And I wonder if current media trends, especially in pornography might play a part in some of the worst examples among them. :/
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        Most trolls are 15-yr-old sexually-frustrated boys. Those that are not actually 15, are stuck in that stage of maturity. Ignore them.
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      The power of vulnerability. On both sides. Look beyond the rage and see the pain beneath, all of a sudden, connection becomes possible. Trauma and abuse are toxins that we all experience, but can rarely talk about openly.
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    • 2 3
      Great story, Lindy. To paraphrase Oscar Wilde: "There is only one thing in the world worse than being trolled, and that is not being trolled". Stay strong.
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    • 4 5
      Facebook, Twitter and YouTube are not doing enough to police their sites and protect people from hate-filled venom. Want a reason not to live on this planet anymore, just read the comments section of any video or post linked to current affairs to read bile....
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        Do you realize the logistics of doing as you suggest? You want the impossible.
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        I agree, especially in places like Reddit that have done absolutely nothing to people who distribute child porn, or women being violently beaten.
        But there's only so many moderator's per comments per day, and an automated system could be abused to silence people being harassed, just as easily as it could be used to silence actually horrible people.
        Bloody awful problem we need to solve :/
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    • 5 6
      This is a very brave piece, and hats off to the author. (I suppose that at least it can't make the situation any worse). I think she absolutely nails it when she describes this variety of 'troll' as hate-filled because of the emptiness of their own lives. (I put 'troll' in scare quotes because these aren't trolls as such - they're no better than poison-pen letter cranks or obscene phone callers. Trolling can almost be an artform with the right material).
      So subjectively, part of the problem is taking these runts seriously. It's a compliment they don't deserve.
      Sadly, I don't think there's any objective cure for this sort of behaviour at present. However, that may well change in the future.
      Our descendants may well look back at the current anonymous version of the internet and shake their heads in disbelief, as we do now when looking at cars without seatbelts, bear-baiting and smoking in pubs.
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        "So subjectively, part of the problem is taking these runts seriously. It's a compliment they don't deserve."
        True. But then there are the times when they make very serious, life threatening remarks. And the same anonymity that protects them, also means you never know who they are, or what they are capable of.
        If someone says they're going to shoot up a school I'm going to, or come to my house and kill me after they post my address, I have no idea if they're crazy enough and angry to actually do something like that.
        Because there's always people out there like this nutter:
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYPC-YMdJFI
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        That's exactly right. If they know how to get at you, or make a threat such as the school example you gave, they should be taken very seriously. The police and/or FBI need to be involved.
        If they don't know how to get at you, they are just words on a screen, though. The only way they can hurt you is if you let them.
        I actually admire the way Lindy handled this. Impersonating her dead father was taking it way, way too far.
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    • 7 8
      Genuinely meaningful article in an (online, and otherwise) world full of dross. You are better than them x
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    • 4 5
      Even though it may be true sometimes, and even though it was clearly true this case, I do wish society would stop putting so much emphasis on the "trolls are all miserable" line! It adds to mental health stigmatisation and really hurts to see all of this when you are struggling to defeat cripplingly low self esteem.
      Also, it lets the egotistical jerk variety of troll who loves themselves, is surrounded by people who love them because they're charismatic assholes, and think that anyone who doesn't love them needs to "get a sense of humour" or some such BS off the hook! You don't see e-mails like this from them because if someone highlighted their abuse they'd just show all their friends and laugh about it as a trolling trophy.
      This guy is only ONE type of troll and can't be generalised from.
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    • 4 5
      "...the fiercest trolling has come from traditionally white, male-dominated communities (comedy, video games, atheism) whose members would like to keep it that way."
      I'm an atheist, and I have met many more atheists who wanted their communities to grow and be inclusive then I have met of the opposite. Trolls, as you know, are incredibly vocal. But in the genre's you cited I would still say they are probably the minority. I think the problem is that the majority isn't nearly as vocal as the minority. Just my two cents. Overall I enjoyed your article, keep it up!
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    • 11 12
      What a beautiful article. Well written ma'am. Internet trolls, and the people who defend them have been in my experience, some of the saddest, loneliest, most angry human beings I've ever seen.
      They hate themselves, they hate the happiness of others, and they want an easy target to lash out at. And a woman represents much (or all) of what frustrates them about life, in this day and age where having sex as many times as possible as close to the porno's as possible, is viewed as the ultimate culmination of a young adult male's life.
      And I should know, I use to be in there shoes. I never got as far as trolling, but I definitely felt angry, and resentful for . . . very illogical, personal, and self-defeating reasons. Every failure socially, especially with women, was magnified in my own head until I hated myself for:
      - Not being able to get a date.
      - Not being able to sleep with a woman
      - Having friends who were everything I thought I should be. But wasn't.
      Like Elliot Rodger's lite. It kind of scares me seeing him talk, and being able to understand how and why he came to believe how he did. There but for the grace of God would I have gone.
      I had good, patient friends though, who helped me through my struggles, and who helped me to grow out of that stage of my life, and that sort of thinking. I'm lucky.
      And so is that guy in your story. He became a better man because of how you helped him. And it breaks my heart that so many other men haven't yet come to his and my conclusion on what life, and people are all about. That so many people are viciously angry and want to tear apart others because they lack what their victim's have. Happiness.
      ***
      Also, don't be ridiculous. After you google Gamergate, you have to spread salt on the earth in a six foot radius around the laptop, and set everything within on fire.
      Take what remains, douse it in holy water, and then seal it in a chest. The chest must be delivered to a church, preferably one with ancient catacombs. They'll know what to do.
      It's the only way to be sure.
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      I mean repentant!
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    • 1 2
      If only all trolls were like this guy.
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      Having been attacked with every tactic the author describes and a few that are even more disgusting, I can only object to the notion that feminism and gender have anything to do with the vileness of internet trolls. Those freaks will do it to anyone who tells the truth and exposes them for the twisted, despicable, disgusting stalkers they are. None of them have ever had the nads to spew their filth in person, and none of them ever will. Several of the trolls who have stalked and threatened me are women, too. Literally thousands of death threats, and the only time LE got involved was to try and blame me because my attitude is bring it on, cowards. So please don't go to the feminist victim troll, the freaks are common bullies who target anyone who speaks up. (Plenty of them post to the Guardian, too.)
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