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What happened when I confronted my cruellest troll (theguardian.com)

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[–]painfullynew -28 ポイント-27 ポイント  (51子コメント)

she states " And even “innocuous” harassment, when it’s coming at you en masse from hundreds or even thousands of users a day, stops feeling innocuous very quickly. It’s a silencing tactic " which is fucking retarded. kinda implies there is a big meeting of people conspiring to force her off the internet rather than alot people finding her opinions obnoxious. I looked at some other of her stuff its also very paranoid and egocentric which kinda defeats any redeeming social value, of which there really isn't much to start with.

[–]Captain_English 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That depends.

If it's harassment, that means threats, personal attacks, derogatory comments and general dickishness as a response to her writing. Then you're defending that as a reasonable and normal way to speak to people, as if it is something you'd do in the office or on the street. Her point is also that even small stuff like 'you're a loser' very quickly adds up.

On the other hand, if it's legitimate disagreement ('I don't think it's fair to write as if only women are rape victims') then calling it harassment is inappropriate and I'd agree with you.

However, I'd give the author the benefit of the doubt here - for her faults she seems like a smart woman - and having been around the internet block a few times, I am very inclined to accept that even people voicing reasonable disagreement with her are likely to tag something like 'you fat cow' on the end of it. The internet is not kind to people is disagrees with.

[–]piyochama 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (29子コメント)

If people find her opinions obnoxious and their immediate response is to harass her (rather than engaging in discourse) doesn't that prove her point?

[–]Beanxtown -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (24子コメント)

I think she calls a lot of small things "Harassment" and likes to play the victim. She blocked me on twitter after one tweet that was offensive at all and it was the only time I had tweeted her or even used twitter in months, and funnily enough this tweet was exactly about engaging in discourse but she didn't want to do it? huh strange. She paints so many people and communities with such a broad brush, what a terrible person.

[–]piyochama 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (23子コメント)

How about you post the content of the tweet before saying that?

When lots of people are saying harassing things, it's easy to become jaded after a while.

[–]Beanxtown -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (22子コメント)

Here ya go, can we not downvote before I post my content then too if we are going about like this? I don't think I was harassing people do you? I should really just not look at any of this type of internet stuff any more it just frustrates me so much lol

[–]louley 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Why did you remove the link to your tweet?

[–]Beanxtown -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Because I'd prefer not a direct link to my twitter in the comment, Just use the bot that copied it below.

[–]louley 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

fair'nuf. I was just curious and didn't even think about that... and keeping on topic of online harassment and anonymity, it's kinda shitty and ironic that the bot still has your handle there. The internet is like the wild fucking west, I guess. No laws and anything goes.

However, earlier I went back and re-read all of it and the context helped a lot. Just saying in case more drunken, sleep deprived dicks like me comment. ;)

[–]Beanxtown 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yea I was kinda surprised by the bot as it doesn't even have a option for you to remove the bots comment. Oh well, I very rarely use my twitter anyway. Anyways hope you have a good eve/night etc I think I'm done with this thread, Cya.

[–]louley 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

ditto. :)

[–]louley 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (15子コメント)

The tweet isn't harassing, but it is absolute troll bait. No wonder you were blocked.

[–]Beanxtown -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (14子コメント)

is it really? please tell me how? did you read her tweet? she puts down the chance to put forward her view and brushes all "whiny boys-club gamers" in one swift harass filled stroke. I would love to talk to her properly about it but she doesn't want that she just wants to name call and insult groups of people whilst calling the feel sorry for me card. She probably does get harassed by some people But I am definitely not one of them, and neither are most men.

[–]louley 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (10子コメント)

I would love to talk to her properly about it ...

I believe that you were not trying to add fuel to the fire, but your approach was combative, condescending and insulting.

[–]Beanxtown -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Speak like you are spoken to I guess...

[–]louley 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Or, just don't be a dick? It's a pretty basic human guideline.

edit: Sorry. I'm kinda being a dick too. I'm tired (and drunk, and have received my own fair share of ridiculous internet harassment. Seriously. Being female and being on the internet should come with hazard pay), not that it's an excuse. I'm sorry, anyway.

[–]MarshallBanana 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

please tell me how?

Because you were confrontational yet cowardly, by implying she's a liar without actually saying it out loud.

[–]Beanxtown 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I didn't imply she's Lying. I'm implying she doesn't want to talk about her opinion when asked (not even by me by a few tweets before me).

[–]MarshallBanana 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I didn't imply she's Lying.

Yes you fucking did. And now that you are being called out on it, you are trying to use the excuse you set up ahead of time because you are too much of a coward to admit it.

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[–]ChaseAlmighty 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've only read this article and although I agree with much of what she said I did take issue with a few things, this being one of them. If she wasn't/isn't paranoid in other articles then I would guess she misworded what she was trying to say. But if she is the paranoid type then she probably meant it in the way you describe. One thing I can think of is after a while maybe it does seem like a concentrated act since it always comes in waves and saying virtually the same thing. But of course it would be more likely that individuals that take the same issues with her would react similarly to each other and there would be wave like reactions to what she posts and when. Of course we can also figure if someone posted her articles to forums that pertain to whatever she wrote about the forum members may then go and attack her individually but at the same time as a group.

Edit: words misspelled or misused.

[–]MarshallBanana 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (17子コメント)

Way to miss the point by miles and be an utter ass about it.

[–]elchivo83 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So if you find someone's views "obnoxious" that justifies you in threatening that person with acts of violence, does it?