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walked by this man preparing a döner rotisserie in Istanbul. (i.imgur.com)

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[–]chaz91w 129 ポイント130 ポイント  (101子コメント)

Its been about 4 years since i lived in Germany and I still have insatiable cravings for doner kebabs after a night at the bars.

[–]michaelpaulhartman 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (39子コメント)

Tell me about it. Had a lot in Vietnam and Spain. Never found any here in the states.

[–]Jackajackajack 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (23子コメント)

What is the difference between this and shawarma? I find it often in the states.

[–]GasTheChildren 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (19子コメント)

There is none, just different names.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doner_kebab

[–]pententacle 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (2子コメント)

You take that back!

[–]SlitSlayer 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

THESE MOTHER SONS OF BEECHES!!!

[–]Jeckle160 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE?!?!?! WHAT"S THE DIFFERENCE?!?!?! THOSE MOTHER SONS OF BEECHES SELL KAPAPPY, WE SELL KBABBY

[–]BorgDrone 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

It depends, where I live (netherlands) there certainly is a difference

Shoarma consist of small strips of meat, like this

While döner kebab are thin flat pieces of meat, like this

[–]pseudolobster 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

In Canada, we use similar terms. Shwarma is typically pieces of marinated chicken meat cooked on a spit, while doner is a brown loaf of mystery meat we call "donair" and smother in a sweet creamy garlic sauce.

edit: shwarma, and donair

[–]Arseh0le 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You guys also have the kapsalon, one of the finest things to eat when you have had a few beers. I wish I could get one in London.

[–]schwarmamonster 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shawarma is not ground. Döner is ground meat. Shawarma/Döner/gyro refers to the way it is cooked but the spices used and types of meat typically vary. Source: I AM THE SHAWARMA MONSTER

[–]Exacom -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (9子コメント)

There sure is a difference, one is a roll the other rather like a sandwich. They have different kinds of breads and shawarma has not (only) lamb as ingredient. Also salad and sauce usually differ. EDIT: Removal of Wikipedia article as what i said was what i experienced until now.

[–]wastekid 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Hey dude, not trying to play expert in these - I'm not - but those articles totally contradict you. The doner article says it can have many different kinds of meats, and be put on pita or in bread as a sandwich. In fact, both articles refer to the other as other names for the same dish.

[–]Exacom 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Im am not aware of the situation in America, but Shawarma is an Arabic dish, while the Döner kebab's origin is turkish. They do differ here in germany and in mid-east countries. Sorry that i didn't know that it was sold under the same name in the US.

[–]blueph 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I have lived both in Turkey & the US and I can tell you while they are similar, they are also not exactly the same. I would say even within Turkey it can vary based on what part you're in. It's like saying all pizza is the same whether from New York, Chicago, etc. Yeah, they're all pizza, but they're prepared differently.

Basically, Doner = Turkish, Shawarma = Arabic, Gyro = Greek

They're all different tasting and can vary in textures, toppings, breads (even our pita is different than Arabic or Greek for example), etc.

[–]trageikeman 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

this^

[–]spammo5 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh, reddit, basing life knowledge on wikipedia articles. There is a major difference between a donair you may have in Turkey, and a shawarma you may find in Israel and the United States. The meat, the sauce, the presentation...aka the entire thing.

[–]GasTheChildren 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

My bad, I was just going off this

The dish is also widely known by its Arabic name "shawarma" (from Turkish çevirme) or the Greek name "gyros".

[–]oniSMASH 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You were right. It's a very commonly-held misconception. I'm not sure the origin but if I had to guess it's different restaurant owners in the west "competing" to claim their region's "ownership" of the dish.

[–]oniSMASH 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The name doesn't necessarily indicate how it's served at all. Both names come from a root word which simply means "to turn" or "turning". It refers to the cooking method. You can easily get both served on a bun or pita, or on a platter with rice or flatbread underneath. Any differences are largely regional or preferential.

Your own articles linked indicate this as well.

[–]AkAdude -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shawerma is vastly different. WTF are you talking about? Go to a real Arab restaurant and find for yourself. That kabab is persian and not found in the Arab gulf states.

[–]EverGreenPLO 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Doner is Turkish shawarma middle eastern. There's going to be some spice differences

[–]mrhuggables 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Turkey is a part of the Middle East. So is Iran and there is no shwarma there.

Doner, Shwawrma, Kebab, Shashlik, Gyros, etc. are all just different ethnic variations of the same thing: grilled meat

[–]ss6sam6 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No man, kebab is small skewers, Shawarma is big fat skewar that may need a special lift. Both have nutmeg, shawarma is lardy , loads of fat, some secret recipe add pigs fat to the mutton, or checken variations.

[–]SoulPoleSuperstar 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

doner kebabs

is the same meat that is gyros , just have them put it on a sandwich....

[–]Armlicker123 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (6子コメント)

There is Verts in Austin, Texas. It's really good!

[–]dapperwhippersnapper 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was just about to post about this. I love how we have Vert's and Torchy's right next to each other at the Mueller location. I've got everything that matters most right there in one place. lol

[–]michaelpaulhartman 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Nice. I live in Dallas. Next time I'm in Austin I'll have to try it out.

[–]BrianTTU 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

They opened a Verts in Addison on beltline and the tollway over by pluckers. It is really good get the spicy

[–]michaelpaulhartman 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thanks

[–]StealthNade 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

not to mention the places that make real al pastor all over texas

[–]Tropps 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I love Verts! Eat there almost once a week...

[–]sewiv 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What? It's available anywhere.

[–]kosher_pork 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hit up Lebanese places.

[–]flyinhyphy 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Where in Vietnam? I've never seen it there.

[–]michaelpaulhartman 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hanoi. They had at least 3 places.

[–]Black_Hitler -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You've never found doner/shawarma in the US? You either live in the middle of nowhere or you're not trying very hard to find it.

[–]michaelpaulhartman 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I didn't know shawarma was the same thing. Excuse my lack of encyclopedic knowledge of all things Middle Eastern cuisine.

[–]BorgDrone 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (42子コメント)

They don't have döner kebab in the US, the land of fast-food ? WTF

[–]d0s4gw 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (2子コメント)

There's one here in Seattle called The Berliner. I work less than 2 blocks away. :)

[–]schnarf541 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why'd you have to remind me, now I'm hungry. Let me tell you, I'm the motherfucking duke of the Berliner, Fiery Kreuzbergs ALL DAY

[–]NakedChoker 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I lived in Germany for two years and was missing them so bad, then last year I was in Seattle on business and saw the Berliner. It was awesome. Even though I've been diagnosed with Celiac, I had to eat it anyway. Had the shits, totally worth it.

[–]The_Bard 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Lots of schwarma and gyros which are similar

[–]BorgDrone -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Shoarma looks like this where I live, similar to gyros but with different herbs and spices.

Döner kebab looks like this

[–]_dude_bro 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Dude how many times are you going to repost this same comment?

[–]BorgDrone -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I didn't realize you pay for reddit by the comment.

I posted as a reply to several threads where it was relevant instead of saying 'look at one of my previous comments' and let them find it themselves. It's a courtesy. If you don't appreciate it feel free to ignore it.

[–]The_Bard 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Gyro

I've had doner in England and gyro in the US. I didn't notice a difference other than toppings.

[–]afishinacloud 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (15子コメント)

Aren't they the same as Shawarma?

[–]Evayne 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (3子コメント)

It's the same. Gyros too. There are slight differences that really depend on the place you get it at and not necessarily the name of the dish, and different side dishes/breads, but that's about it.

[–]afishinacloud 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's what I figured. Just different names based on the region and slight variations as a result of that.

[–]kde01 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The gyros we have in the US are completely different from what you'd find in Greece.

In Greece gyros are usually pork, sometimes chicken. Almost never lamb. In the US they're almost always lamb.

[–]umse2 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

YOU TAKE THAT BACK! NOW! this is full blown blasphemy. it's the same as saying "cheeseburger is the same as a McRib. there are slight differences that really depend on the place you get it at"

[–]BorgDrone -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (10子コメント)

No. Sold by the same kind of place though.

[–]Abohir 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (9子コメント)

It is different?

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    [–]Abohir 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    The dish is also widely known by its Arabic name "shawarma" (from Turkish çevirme)

    And I did not just edit that in.

    [–]seifer93 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    That's not a suspicious thing to say.

    [–]Abohir 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    0_:D

    [–]BorgDrone -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yes, it's different. At least where I live.

    Shoarma consist of small strips of meat, like this

    While döner kebab are thin flat pieces of meat, like this

    Most places sell both types.

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      [–]amrak_em_evig 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Those articles specifically call both dishes by both names, looks interchangeable.

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        [–]amrak_em_evig 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I understand, I'm just not seeing how two dishes prepared the same way using the same ingredients (barring regional spice and meat choices, which affects pretty much every food) and looks exactly the same should be called two different things. Regional differences I guess.

        [–]Abohir 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

        I think most arabs in the US call it Shawarma. Do a local search for shawarma.

        [–]imStillsobutthurt 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Khlav kalash

        [–]Black_Hitler 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I'll take a crab juice.

        [–]barlister 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Lots of gyros

        [–]BorgDrone 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Gyros is different.

        [–]dustyjuicebox 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (9子コメント)

        I'm sure in some places they do. However I have never found one in the mid-west. Maybe I should start my own place.

        [–]epiiplus1is0 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

        They call them gyros

        [–]dustyjuicebox 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

        I've lived in Spain for half a year. I was exposed to shwarma/kebabs. They are not gyros. They are similar but not the same. Also tell me of a gyro place you know where a gyro costs 5 bucks and its open at 2 am and you're drunk.

        [–]snowball666 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Most by me are 24 hour joints. SE Michigan has a large middle eastern population though.

        [–]kde01 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        It's a shame we don't have the in the US. In Greece all gyro places are open til past 2AM (usually 4-5AM) and they serve massive and delicious authentic pork gyros for about 2 euro each. In the south they're smaller, but in the north for 3 euro (gyro and a drink) you've got more than enough for a full meal.

        I get mine with just the pork, ketchup, dried chili flakes, and spicy cheese sauce. Fucking delicious. I've never had a gyro in the US that even comes close.

        [–]dreamWeaver82 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Chicago counts as Midwest and we have plenty.

        [–]BorgDrone 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

        You should, seems like a huge gap in the market.

        Over here (the Netherlands) this is so popular that döner kebab places pop up like Starbucks does in the US. I live in a medium size city (about 160k inhabitants) and there are 54 döner places that deliver to my address. A new one seems to open every week.

        [–]TrolleyPower 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        I miss the kapsalon's and the turkse pizza's i used to get in Holland

        [–]BorgDrone -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Yeah, döner with a big pile of salad on top wrapped in a lahmacun (turkish pizza) and drowned in garlic sauce is the shit.

        [–]sewiv 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Never been to Dearborn, apparently. Or anywhere in SE MI.

        [–]furryballs -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        They do... Just not very good. A lot of places have what they call gyro, which is mostly bland meat with the texture of mush. Then there are actual shawarma places that are alright, but don't come close to a nice one in Germany or Denmark (Have not had this stuff outside these countries)

        [–]skltllghtnng -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        probably b/c chains like mcdonalds n shit r way moar popular for our herd mentality

        [–]Doktor_No 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        that never ends

        [–]aikidoka 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Oh, how I miss you Hähnchen-döner... after too much kölsch/alt/helles/etc!

        [–]ftlftlftl 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Spent a month in German with a family when I was 7 years ago and to this day I've been searching for doners stateside...

        [–]chaz91w 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        keep looking and never give up hope friend.

        [–]Awesomeade 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        I took a trip to Europe last year and had a doner kebab from a street vendor near the Dachau train station. It was by far the best thing I ate on that entire trip. One of the most satisfying meals of my life.

        [–]chaz91w 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        It's out of this world good.

        [–]SuicideNote 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I tastes a lot better in Germany and most of Istanbul that's for sure. I spent 20 days in Istanbul and did find a doner kebab I liked. The regular kebab meals are much more worth it like Iskender kebab.

        [–]jugger_not 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        I'm about to get one in your honor.

        [–]chaz91w 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        thank you kind sir!

        [–]bobrossthemobboss 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        For me it's shawarma

        [–]pententacle 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        There are no proper döner places anywhere near where I live. Probably not even anywhere on the eastern seaboard! So sad :(

        [–]chaz91w 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I still havent come to grasps with the concept of not eating another until I find myself back in Nurnberg or Munchen.

        [–]weaver787 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        You were in the military, weren't you?

        [–]chaz91w 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Nailed it! those gut trucks loved to find whatever bar us GI's were at and post up to serve up some of the best drunk food ever.

        [–]BakedCheese 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        UK here: we've got your back if you ever decide to visit bruv.

        [–]chaz91w 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        you lucky sonofagun I will take ya up on it if I ever find myself bruv!

        [–]Seventytvvo -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Not Donner kebabs?