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"Not for Jews" job ad creates massive controversy In France (france24.com)
moonflash1 が 4 時間 前 投稿
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[–]roscocoltrane -29 ポイント-28 ポイント-27 ポイント 2 時間 前 (16子コメント)
You will have to prove it. The simplest explanation is that they want people to work on Saturday from time to time and don't want the hassle of someone calling their union on the pretext that their religion prohibits it.
[–]mikeash 46 ポイント47 ポイント48 ポイント 2 時間 前 (5子コメント)
Right, because the only possible way that someone might refuse to work Saturday is if they're Jewish. In a country where Muslims outnumber Jews by 10:1.
I don't have to prove shit. I'm just arguing on the internet, not in a courtroom.
[–]has-13 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 2 時間 前 (4子コメント)
Wait what, why would muslims not work on the sabbath?
[–]mikeash 6 ポイント7 ポイント8 ポイント 2 時間 前 (2子コメント)
It's less formalized but Friday is a prayer day in Islam and many Muslims either take the day off, or stop working mid-day as a result.
[–]fjonk 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 1 時間 前 (1子コメント)
Many muslims in France take Friday off or stop working mid-day?
[–]mikeash 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 55 分 前 (0子コメント)
Actually lots of people in France do, Muslim or not. Google "35 hour work week."
[–]tealparadise 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 2 時間 前 (0子コメント)
I think he's saying that other people, muslims included, might have shit to do on Saturdays (god knows I've ignored that 7am call over and over when I just wanted to have a day to myself). They could just ASK whether the applicants would come in on Saturday, at the interview stage or just in call-backs.
[–]Kosher_salt 17 ポイント18 ポイント19 ポイント 2 時間 前 (7子コメント)
The vast majority of Jews will work on Saturday. This is about being Jewish, not about scheduling.
[+]roscocoltrane スコアが基準値未満のコメント-15 ポイント-14 ポイント-13 ポイント 1 時間 前 (6子コメント)
You don't know that, you don't know with who the employer had to deal with in the past. If he had problems with a person refusing to work on Saturday for religious reason, a jew for example, it can be enough to trigger this kind of reaction. ("not anymore!")
[–]MurrayPloppins 6 ポイント7 ポイント8 ポイント 1 時間 前 (2子コメント)
So uhhh... How hard are you willing to work to try to defend racism against Jews? And more importantly, why?
[–]Viper3D 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 1 時間 前 (0子コメント)
I'll work really hard! Sundays-Fridays. I guess I've just always seen myself as a go-getter and this company feels like the right fit to improve on my racism against Jews. 5 years from now I hope to see my self a top the Antisemitism ladder!
[–]roscocoltrane -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 15 分 前 (0子コメント)
I don't defend racism, you should read again what I wrote.
[–]Kosher_salt 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 41 分 前 (2子コメント)
I actually DO know that most Jews don't observe the sabbath. We have lots of polling data on this, the numbers are staggering against sabbath observance.
More importantly, your logic would suggest I could post a "No Blacks" sign, because of negative past associations. That's obviously racist.
[–]roscocoltrane -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 17 分 前 (1子コメント)
Being black isn't a religion, stop playing this card. Being black never stopped anyone from working on Saturday, being jewish did.
[–]Kosher_salt 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 4 分 前 (0子コメント)
You're being ridiculous. I was commenting about the bigotry of generalization - "I once knew a [Insert religious group / race / etc. here]. They're all like that. I won't hire any of them."
Moreover, as I mentioned, being Jewish doesn't stop anyone from working on Saturday. Statistically speaking, when hiring someone who is Jewish, they are more likely to being willing to work on Saturday than not.
[–]splendasthetits 12 ポイント13 ポイント14 ポイント 2 時間 前 (1子コメント)
Lots of Jews work on Saturday as well.
[–]TheBestPlaceEver 8 ポイント9 ポイント10 ポイント 1 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Honestly most do, this is just straight racism.
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