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[–]LimitlessLTDCitizen of Europe 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (19子コメント)

Maybe Russian planes just need to stop buzzing NATO warships and turn their transponders on when flying in civil airspace?

Can anyone even link me an incident caused by a NATO fighter plane in the last 5 years that has buzzed Russian ships or even approached Russian airspace? No, because NATO doesnt stoop to Russia's stupid intimidatory tactics.

[–]jvd81 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (7子コメント)

They were too busy bombing weddings in the middle east.

[–]LimitlessLTDCitizen of Europe 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (6子コメント)

oooooh, so thats why its ok for Russia to violate and buzz NATO airspace and warships, travel in civil airspace with their transponders off and kidnap Estonian security forces.

Perfect logic there.

[–]DeeKanwhy so [deleted]? -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Yeah it IS perfect logic. They haven't spent the last decades bombing everyone and their mother so why can't they fly planes in international airspace, again?

Look at you trying to make Russia's actions sound "bad" with some idiotic terms like "buzzing", did your "buzzing" happen over international waters or not, it really is as simple as that.

Or is it only ok for anyone's, BUT NATO member states' "civil" airspace to be violated?

Really is surprising how you manage to utter anything with all the hypocritical shit pouring out of your mouth, it's a miracle really.

These guys just ganged up and bombed half of North Africa in the last couple years and are talking about airpace violations, tip-top stuff.

What happened to enforcing no-fly zones and then BOMBING CIVILIANS, you wanna talk about that big-boy, instead of "buzzing" and imaginary submarine hunts?

You're a joke, just admit you're shitting yourself about Russian nukes flying overhead ))) Not surprising really, living on a such a cute little island that only a dozen nukes could wipe (which you funnily enough only need 2 Bears for, hahahaahaaa)

Not so nice when someone's parading their shit in front of your nose huh? Stay salty, sailor.

[–]LimitlessLTDCitizen of Europe 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Are you too stupid to realise that Britain and America arn't the only members of NATO? Do i have to list the other 26 members and are you going to come up with a reason for why Russia is allowed to violate/buzz that country 26 times?

What did Estonia do to deserve one of their security agents being kidnapped by border guards? What did Denmark do to deserve being its airspace being violated? What did Sweden do to have its SAS civil airliner almost hit by a Russian spy plane?

Your ignorance is stunning. Russia is trying to intimidate these NATO countries and all you can do is point to Iraq and say "wah wah wah America did x" forgetting that this is Europe not America.

[–]eurozucchini 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Dude, he's insane, don't bother actually replying to him, unless you are doing it for fun. He will tell you something along the lines of "those countries are part of the organization that bombed poor terrorist shits". Only instead of "terrorist shits" he will say something like "Iraq" or "Libya".

[–]DeeKanwhy so [deleted]? 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Turns out Qaddafi was a "poor terrorist shit" who also nationalized his country's resources and had his citizens have the highest standard of living in the region.

What sort of education (if any) did you receive?

Were you homeschooled/nursed by Glenn Beck?

[–]eurozucchini 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sorry what? I don't speak terrorist.

[–]DeeKanwhy so [deleted]? 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Go.

Go and list ALL the TERRIBLE VIOLATIONS.

Let's see 'em, right now.

Hell, if there are so many, name ten separate OBJECTIVELY TERRIBLE VIOLATIONS which happened over the last 3 years.

THEN post them to next to NATO operations (of ALL member states, why I would mind about you including other US vassals is beyond me) in regards to Russia and their allies over the last 3 years and we'll see how terrible the situation is, no?

Sure is fun pointing out airspace violations when one member of the alliance is aiding ISIL (Turkey) and everyone else is "fighting" the war on terror - North Africa edition with massive civilian casualties all around.

Whatever though right, Russian secret service KIDNAPPED A GUY (US runs black ops death camps in Poland) and then THEIR BOMBERS FLEW CLOSE TO US!!!!

[–]enkebabtackSweden 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

U.S. SIGINT (Signal Intelligence) aircraft have been flying over the baltic close to Kalingrad ever since the start of the Ukraine crisis. In one such instance Russia responded by chasing the aircraft away and forcing it to violate Swedish airspace.

http://www.thelocal.se/20140731/us-aircraft-violates-swedish-airspace

Additionally US does regularly participate in this 'sable rattling' by bringing naval ships into the black sea. Just because USA does not fly bombers near Russia does not mean it does not partake in this 'sable rattling'.

[–]LimitlessLTDCitizen of Europe -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Its "sabre rattling" btw. Sabre means sword so it literally means shacking sword.

Also

Neither the foreign ministry nor the Swedish Defence Force have confirmed or denied the report.

I'd prefer confirmed reports.

[–]enkebabtackSweden 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You know your argument is rather weak when you have to correct someone's grammar instead of actually addressing the comment.

Regarding the authenticity of said report, I am more than able to provide you with the original source. You might need to use Google Translate if you do not understand the native language of my home country, Sweden. From this, you should hopefully be able to pick out that the Swedish Department of Foreign Affairs confirmed the violation. Furthermore, to provide the U.S stance on this violation of the Swedish airspace, I have included remarks from the U.S. State Department.

[–]LimitlessLTDCitizen of Europe 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You know your argument is rather weak when you have to correct someone's grammar instead of actually addressing the comment.

Didn't mean to offend, just noticed you wrote sable twice instead of sabre.

The U.S. plane had been flying in international airspace, conducting an electronic eavesdropping mission on the Russian military, when the Russians took the unusual action of beginning to track it with land-based radar.

So it didn't even violate Russian airspace. I was already aware that it violated Swedish airspace. But it is not Sweden that is buzzing/kidnapping/incurring on NATO airspace (which is the whole point of this article and debate).

Sweden on the other hand has every right to do the same to America and be angry, but funnily enough they dont seem to want to.

[–]vigorousCanada[S] -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Much of this activity is normal and is now being reported as abnormal at the whim of NATO's commanding officers and their very close relationship with the yellow media which supported, holus bolus and ad nauseum the failed regime changing activities of the US and Britain in Iraq.

Putin called the Iraq invasion a political mistake.

I am so glad Canada stayed out of that; and out of Vietnam, (like you did).

[–]LimitlessLTDCitizen of Europe 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Much of this activity is normal

Normal? Incidents have more than doubled in 6 months. How is that "normal"?

and is now being reported as abnormal at the whim of NATO's commanding officers

Source? Sounds like you are just making things up now buddy. Wouldn't be the first time though.

and their very close relationship with the yellow media which supported

Again, source? You don't actually believe what Kremlin state owned media says do you?

holus bolus and ad nauseum the failed regime changing activities of the US and Britain in Iraq.

ooooooh, now it all makes sense. Russia is violating/buzzing NATO airspace/warships because America and Britain invaded Iraq.

How does that make it ok? What about the countries which didn't invade Iraq? Do you also think its ok for Russia to intimidate them too? Your arrogance and repeated use of fallacious logic really is baffling.

Putin called the Iraq invasion a political mistake.

No shit sherlock. My Grandma figured that one out before Putin, and she's fucking dead.

You are an incredibly stupid and misguided person. The only thing you ever say is "wah wah wah America x". You offer no new points of view and no new bits of information. Your sole argument is a logical fallacy. Its actually quite laughable.

[–]vigorousCanada[S] -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

shit-flinging monkey

[–]coldandpain 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh oh oh! -He got to you! Ahahaha....anger is your enemy.

[–]vigorousCanada[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Putin never loses it. That's the main thing.

You'd like for Putin to lose it but he never does, no matter how hard you try.

I think shit-flinging monkey is funny, don't you?

[–]LimitlessLTDCitizen of Europe -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What's the matter /u/vigorous? There is no need to be angry.