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Can racism be justified and rationalized? (self.askphilosophy)
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[–]TychoCelchuuupolitical phil. 15 ポイント16 ポイント17 ポイント 10 時間 前 (59子コメント)
No, because there aren't any good arguments that support racial prejudice, which is what racism is.
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[–]LiterallyAnscombehistory of ideas, philosophical biography 8 ポイント9 ポイント10 ポイント 6 時間 前 (9子コメント)
The only reason that the majority of Asian people are lactose intolerant is that they didn't drink milk when they were young. Your body was naturally prepared to stop producing lactase, but it probably does now simply because you drank milk past weaning, and your digestive system shifted to accommodate it.
That tendency has absolutely nothing to do with race. Most of the Asian kids I know who grew up in North America are not lactose intolerant, even if their parents are.
Even so, I know a couple kids that grew up on dairy farms that were lactose intolerant. Their parents simply bought goat's milk from another farm and never had a problem.
[+]jefesignups スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント-5 ポイント 5 時間 前 (8子コメント)
It was a hypothetical example.
If you don't like that one how about this one. I'm an Eskimo and I hunt seals in a landscape that is all white. I may not want a black hunting mate because he or she will stand out against the background.
[–]LiterallyAnscombehistory of ideas, philosophical biography 6 ポイント7 ポイント8 ポイント 5 時間 前 (6子コメント)
???
Have you seen Inuit people? The original bloodlines are very dark-skinned, and most of them are still pretty dark. When they hunt, they wear white furs and googles, partly for camouflage, and partly because it's hard to hunt naked below freezing temperatures.
[–]jefesignups -4 ポイント-3 ポイント-2 ポイント 4 時間 前 (5子コメント)
I would not call that very dark skinned.
[–]LiterallyAnscombehistory of ideas, philosophical biography 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 4 時間 前 (4子コメント)
You're either a rather untalented troll or a fucking idiot on top of being racist.
[–]jefesignups -4 ポイント-3 ポイント-2 ポイント 4 時間 前 (2子コメント)
That's uncalled for. What I mean is that compared to a black person, they are not very dark skinned.
Again, I am being completely hypothetical.
[–]LiterallyAnscombehistory of ideas, philosophical biography 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 4 時間 前 (1子コメント)
The point of mine was that skin colour doesn't matter in the places Inuit people (Eskimo is a sneer word invented against them by southern Native people, so try not to use it) live at all, since everybody has to wear furs of one kind or another just to go outside and not die. You responded by telling me exactly how black they were, so either you're just trolling me, or you are incapable of reading comprehension on single sentences.
No, you're JAQ-ing off on at least two subjects you've proved to know nothing about in a racist direction. The most foaming-mouth literalist would have a hard time not reading a certain direction into your "hypotheticals" so far. If you're seriously interested, you could try reading up on this stuff rather than proudly announcing things Certain Races Simply Cannot Do.
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I don't belive there were any questions in these replies.
[–]Europhobe 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 2 時間 前 (0子コメント)
I'm an Eskimo and I hunt seals in a landscape that is all white. I may not want a black hunting mate because he or she will stand out against the background.
What? None of the ethnic groups I've heard of in Africa exactly blend in with their surroundings.
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[+]topkeks0202[S] スコアが基準値未満のコメント-17 ポイント-16 ポイント-15 ポイント 8 時間 前 (38子コメント)
He didn't say anything about selling milk to the child and it doesn't undermine his point that people are not equal and can be better or inferior at certain things.
[–]FreeHumanityethics, political phil., metaphysics 10 ポイント11 ポイント12 ポイント 8 時間 前 (25子コメント)
Why would he mention that his livelihood is milk? It's not like the lactose intolerant person can't work on a dairy farm. And it's not like he would be selling milk to his child to make ends meet. Having a lactose intolerant child while being an owner of a dairy farm in no way harms the farmer's livelihood so the entire example doesn't make any sense.
it doesn't undermine his point that people are not equal and can be better or inferior at certain things.
Ok. But what does this have to do about race?
[+]topkeks0202[S] スコアが基準値未満のコメント-15 ポイント-14 ポイント-13 ポイント 7 時間 前 (24子コメント)
why would he mention his livelihood is milk
Its a hypothetical situation to demonstrate a point. He never said ANYTHING about selling milk to his child.
having a lactose int. Child... In no way harms the farmers livelihood
LOL he never said anything about the child harming his livelihood. There you go again making stupid illogical leaps. He could want a child to continue his business after he is dead and he may not want the child to get sick after testing milk.
what does this have to do with race
LOL if you actually read his comment, he is saying if one race is likely to be lactose intolerant , then they are potentially inferior in that aspect.
[–]FreeHumanityethics, political phil., metaphysics 9 ポイント10 ポイント11 ポイント 7 時間 前 (18子コメント)
LOL he never said anything about the child harming his livelihood. There you go again making stupid illogical leaps
It's not an illogical leap. I'm going to lay this out for you in numbers, because you apparently have trouble reading.
That's basically what the post said. (5) does not follow from (1)-(4) because having a lactose intolerant kid does not in any way harm the dairy farmer's livelihood. Therefore, the argument cannot be used as a reason for favoring non-Asian children. So the argument doesn't work. The whole point about testing is stupid, because the child doesn't have to do the testing and on a dairy farm of course he wouldn't be the sole worker. There would be other workers to divide the labor up. The hypothetical is quite simply bad.
[+]Grey0000 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6 ポイント-5 ポイント-4 ポイント 6 時間 前 (9子コメント)
Nah, he's right. You added your own variables for some reason but it still doesn't challenge the point of /u/jefesignsup statement so I dont know what we're getting at.
[–]FreeHumanityethics, political phil., metaphysics 9 ポイント10 ポイント11 ポイント 6 時間 前 (8子コメント)
You added your own variables for some reason
I assumed /u/jefesignsup's point was that if having a lactose intolerant child would greatly interfere with the livelihood of the daily farmer, and having an Asian child would greatly increase the chances of a lactose intolerant child, then a racist policy of avoiding having Asian children would be rationally justified. How is this not what /u/jefesignsup said? How am I adding my own variables?
What other point could he possibly be making? All one has to do is show that having a lactose intolerant person doesn't greatly interfere with the dairy farmer's livelihood, so the example doesn't work. And even if it did, as others have pointed out, being lactose intolerant doesn't make one inferior, so that doesn't provide any support for rationally justifying racism.
[–]Grey0000 -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 6 時間 前 (7子コメント)
You added the variable of not wanting him L.I because it could harm his livelihood, it wasn't inherent. He actually gave no particular reason why he wanted a tolerant child and the other guy gave some examples of other possibilities.
being lactose intolerant doesn't make one inferior.
It does I'm the context of drinking milk, in the context of the situation proposed by jefesignsup.
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[–]SolomonKull 7 ポイント8 ポイント9 ポイント 8 時間 前 (11子コメント)
Should somebody receive special privileges based on their race? Should they be denied privileges based on their race? Rational, sane people would say no, because they're not racists.
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But wouldn't there be a benefit to my racism? A lactose tolerant child.
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