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[–]condortheboss 196 ポイント197 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's even a hybrid... burns gas and oil.

[–]stevonfNewfoundland and Labrador 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Slow clap.

[–]HunterMajorsBritish Columbia 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Haha it's funny cause our economy is spiraling downwards... Wait. Thank god I got a cushy job in the logging industry.

[–]comox 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Are you saying that there are still some trees left to cut down?

[–]RalphWiggum4 [非表示スコア]  (3子コメント)

What if I told you trees are replanted in areas where they are cut down. In some areas of north America the number of trees has actually increased over time due to this.

[–]VhoghulOntario [非表示スコア]  (2子コメント)

So why don't we just kill and bury more dinosaurs in order to get more oil?

It seems to work for trees?

[–]Djesam [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

Because it wasn't the dinosaurs that turned into oil.

[–]GiantSquiddCanada [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Okay fine then, let's use Dick Cheney. ...oh, wait...

[–]Soobas 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Pretty sure if the logging industry in Canada hired every Canadian and we started on the east coast and worked out way west.. by the time we got to the west coast and as long as there was some sort of replanting effort the trees on the east coast would be big enough to harvest again.

[–]Voltrondemort [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

New Brunswick alone would take that long.

[–]Transfatcarbokin [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

But I saw a squirrel once.

[–]iswungmyfierysword [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

We're number 1! We're number 1! http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/09/05/3563762/canada-forest-degradation/

[–]HunterMajorsBritish Columbia [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

In bc there is lol.

[–]Siendra 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Give that truck a $50 roll on paint job and it wouldn't look half-bad.

[–]BrockYXE 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean the picture's shitty, but it doesn't look bad anyway.

[–]Drando_HSCanada [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

...holy shit, I was expecting Top-Gear DIY-quality, but it actually looks nice.

[–]aphoenixOntario 33 ポイント34 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is like the perfect truck to go out for a rip in.

[–]ferngutsNova Scotia 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you work for a living, you'll need the Ferd Fteenthousand

[–]shodanx 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've had a pickup since I moved in to a rural area, it pulls trailers but not babes.

[–]iambluest 58 ポイント59 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not to be cynical, but they will need the truck to bring their Ikea furniture and big screen t.v. back to mama's basement on the east coast.

[–]ngwooSaskatchewan 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I feel even worse about my sagging headliner now, thanks.

[–]thebigslide [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Easy fix with some aerosol glue, bud. Just use the tip and straw from a can of WD-40 that hasn't been used yet (or is cleaned). Poke a little hole in a corner of the bubble and spray the back side of the headliner (being careful not to spray too much in any one spot). Immediately start gently working the headliner back up from the outside in, working in a circle.

It only takes about 5 minutes, but you do have to pay attention to where it's stretched (test fit) to make sure you don't get wrinkles.

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[–]tughdffvdlfhegl [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

rear window has a slider

I'm sold. Sliding rear windows on trucks are an under appreciated amazing feature.

[–]MerpdyDerp 74 ポイント75 ポイント  (97子コメント)

I Dont get all the hate for us guys coming out to Alberta to get ahead, instead of sticking around back home in a dead end welfare town. So we want to work hard and get paid well, what's so wrong with that? Like there's no one back home with a financed vehicle they Dont need, like no one back home does drugs or makes bad decisions. Most of you have no idea what you're talking about and some are just jealous that you're unable to scrounge up some balls to make a change and do something new. Even if this oil patch crash puts me out of work and I end up back home, I'll still be better off and have had cooler life experiences than any of the guys who never left my home town. I also now know how to feed a camp of 500 men, I know what it means to work for 12 hours a day (16 in my rig camp) for 3 weeks straight. I know the accomplishment and feeling of pure badass-ness that comes from working a 12 hour night shift outside in -40 degrees on a drilling rig under the northern lights. I know comraderie and teamwork. I earned everything I have in my life but I know that nothing is certain, especially in this industry. Before you criticize us, ask yourself what makes you so much better.

[–]imalwaysthinking 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (2子コメント)

You're not wrong. I work in an office and regularly put in many extra hours of work. Typically I'm mentally exhausted on any given night. I'm not going to say that it's anything near many of those working in oil fields, on a roof, or any other physical type of labour. To be honest, I've never been very good at "real world" type work and marvel at those who work hard and do a good job at it.

For me, the difference is I've known a lot of jackasses that mocked those for being idiots for sticking to school and wanting to work in the office. These jackasses move out of of my province and most of them have ended up the same people, just jackasses in Alberta with more disposable income. After all of their newly gained income they still have nothing to show for it.

Don't get me wrong, I've actually reconnected with a few noticed they have grown up some, realized they were jackasses but hey that's growing up. These are the people who will weather this storm. Others however haven't changed a bit.

The hate goes towards these guys. The ones who thought Alberta oil was a cheat code for life. Easy money, easy life. Spend without saving because this gravy train ain't never stopping.

Just as I can't stand the new guy in the office who seems willing to get paid to do the minimum, I feel the same way about those guys who thought Alberta was the only smart option. Difference being I didn't know the new guy in high school when he was even more immature and mocked those around them.

[–]theladygeologistCanada [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

Right, but as you're hating on a few random jackasses, remember that there are many of us who did toil away through school, go to university, and have worked or do work in the oil field. Yes, there are unskilled labourers and meatheads with big trucks. But there are also a lot of educated, skilled professionals (who may drive big trucks, have you driven on many of the prairie roads? God help anyone who has to drive in SK).

Maybe if you took the time to learn a bit about your fellow Canadians, you'd realise there is a lot more to Alberta workers than a few jerks who hurt your feelings once.

[–]imalwaysthinking [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

A few things on this:

Firstly, the add is poking fun at the in your words "unskilled labourers and meatheads with big trucks." and it was funny.

Secondly, I have never suggested that Alberta was just a bunch jackasses or jerks who hurt my feelings. In my own comments I mention that there are a few I have reconnected with and hold no hard feelings. One has since become electrical engineer and the other has gone back to school for something related to geology. Within my first paragraph I go over how I marvel over those who are in the physical labour work force, when they work hard and well.

If you re-read what I've written, without bias you might find I put in effort to write a fairly neutral explanation on why there is "hate for us guys coming out to Alberta to get ahead". In no way have I used any broad stroke to warrant your comments in regards to the rest of my fellow Canadians.

Edit: stupid typos.

[–]The_Mayor 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Young people have been hearing about how you're wasting Canada's time unless you had enrolled in a STEM degree and had or were planning to move to the oil sands, as if every millenial should have known what a great idea that was as they were graduating high school.

An entire generation has been scolded for making the "wrong decisions" and now that's turning out to be untrue. Let the young people have their celebration. What they're celebrating is that they were right about being truly fucked the moment they graduated high school.

[–]tomselllecksmoustash [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Turning out untrue? No, it was still a good choice. Making $200k over 12 years was still a far better life choice than making minimum wage during that same time period. They laid off 150 people with another 150 going. There's like, 10,000 people. That's big lay offs but if this was any other industry (like IDK Blackberry) they would have laid off 50% or higher. Yeah it's bad now, but it's not nearly as bad as people might make it out to believe.

[–]jooes 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (11子コメント)

Before you criticize us, ask yourself what makes you so much better.

I think it's funny that this sentence also applies to you too.

[–]MerpdyDerp 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Please see my comment regarding ambition and hard work vs staying at home in a welfare town, then realize I'm defending people, not attacking them. I'm not sure how else to respond, unless you have some sort of valid, intelligent point to make beyond what you've tried to do.

[–]theladygeologistCanada 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If this /r/Canada thread was about First Nations, your post about leaving for work would be lauded. But suggest non-natives leave their hometowns in pursuit of work or higher wages, and people's kickers are all knotted.

[–]45RPMCanada 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're calling your hometown a welfare town. That in itself is an attack.

Every town anywhere gets called that by angsty teenagers.

[–]DeetoriaAlberta 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I moved to Alberta 13 years ago with 900$ in my pocket. I didn't do it to work in oil. I went to school and got a different kind of trade, one that is undervalued and yet requires just as much effort and training. I'm a hairdresser and I've made it work.

Don't you start telling me that moving here to work oil when you KNOW you will be making at least 40$ an hour to push a broom is more ballsy then doing the same thing to work a career that pays 13$ an hour when I'm lucky. I've made it work and have worked my ass off to be self-employed and 100% supporting myself. And I'm damned good at what I do. And yet oil field workers look down on my profession and don't see it as a real trade.

Fuck that mentality. There is a reason people have this preconceived notion that oil workers are arrogant dicks. I don't see myself as ballsy or brave but, hell, if these oil field workers see themselves this way then I guess I should start seeing myself that way too.

[–]she-hulk 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

What job pays $40 /hr to push a broom?

[–]SlimJim84Ontario 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Deetoria is giving an extreme example, just like their example of comparing hairdressing and being on an oil rig.

[–]she-hulk 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Deetoria is bitter and exaggerating because they picked a career that is low paying everywhere unless you are in the absolute top of your game.

A leasehand on a rig for example makes $28/hr and it is absolute brutal work. A floorhand is the next step up and they make $32/hr for also brutal work.

[–]DeetoriaAlberta -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ok, maybe push a broom is the wrong thing to say, but you can head up to Ft. Mac or a welding shop and make close to that with no other experience.

[–]bsbbtnh 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

And yet oil field workers look down on my profession and don't see it as a real trade.

I don't think most working men, who wear a hat and typically get a $10 haircut, would see the value of somebody who can actually cut hair.

[–]MerpdyDerp [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Yeah, I'm a cook so tell me more about low paying jobs. I bet you make more in tips than I do in wages if we both worked in town. It probably requires more knowledge and skill to be a chef than a hairdresser too, NOT that a hairdresser doesn't require skill, a chef just needs massive amounts of knowledge over a long long career to do what I do. Also, you moved to Alberta with $900- good for you. That IS ballsy, many people wouldnt do that.

[–]jooes -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dude, you're not defending anybody. Your comments all reek of passive aggression. You totally think you're better than everybody else, even though you're apparently pretending that's not the case.... I mean, why else would you be saying that we're jealous and don't have balls to do what you did? That other comment of yours is pretty bad too, with all those lines about student debt and whatnot, who gives a fuck?

[–]kraptastic 75 ポイント76 ポイント  (68子コメント)

For me it's because I know people heading to Alberta would feel so self righteous despite that they most likely never gave a fuck in school, couldn't get into university if they tried, and would still laugh at me and my student debt. It's like having no direction in life, joining the military, and suddenly expecting everyone to for some reason respect your "sacrifice," when really you probably wouldn't amount to anything anyway. So now that it's coming crashing down on them I'm having a hard time being sympathetic.

[–]bsbbtnh 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I think you'd be surprised by the amount of people in the oil industry who have spent years going to school. From geologists, to engineers, tradesmen, etc. Those jobs are paying much more than the labourers pulling in $40/hr. I've even known labourers who've had degrees in arts, business, accounting, etc.

As for the type of people you're talking about, they are in every industry, every crevice of our society. You haven't met a self righteous retail clerk, or an arrogant waiter? And work in an office setting, and you'll meet some of the strangest people in our society.

[–]dsmokeb [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

And work in an office setting, and you'll meet some of the strangest people in our society.

Well said.

[–]LABIA_LISP [非表示スコア]  (4子コメント)

This is where the scientists and engineers would work on harvesting energy from various other sources, in a perfect world.

[–]bsbbtnh [非表示スコア]  (2子コメント)

There's a lot of research going on in alternative energy, especially in Alberta. There's even a lot of infrastructure that's being put in place. I mean, Medicine Hat just finished adding a solar array to their power plant. It'll only power about 150 homes I believe, but it's a good start.

[–]theladygeologistCanada [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

I couldn't believe the amount of wind turbines constantly going up in southern Alberta. It's been almost 2 years since I moved away, but it seemed that every time I drove along hwy 3 there were cranes with towers and turbines on the hills.

It's so encouraging, I'd love to see wind power really flourish.

[–]LABIA_LISP [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

That's good to hear! Medicine Hat is the sunniest city, it could do the most with solar energy.

[–]tomselllecksmoustash [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Suncor owns the largest solar and wind farms in Canada.

[–]NerdMachine 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What makes getting a degree "having direction" any more than military or work in Alberta?

[–]blaqsaqattaq 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's a pretty big brush you're painting with there, bud.

[–]MerpdyDerp 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (32子コメント)

Sounds like you think you're better than them because you made it into university. Good for you, but there are more kinds of intelligence and worth than just being able to pass tests and write papers. People have different avenues in life. I quit a very competitive university program because I didn't want a boring office life and ended up doing quite well in jobs that are really fun. Maybe they laugh at your student debt because you laughed at them struggling in school. I don't get the military comparison though. I Dont expect anyone to respect me for my decision to work out here. How's your university degree treating you anyway? Lots of people with degrees serving in restaurants and going to trades these days.

[–]Babooch 75 ポイント76 ポイント  (18子コメント)

A common belief in Alberta high schools is that one does not need to try in school to be successful because he (or she) can always go and work the rigs and make his fortune. These people generally gave up in high school and called out everyone around them who were studying and wanting to go to university. Also, they're the ones who come back and wave their salary in people's faces. It's like people who brag that they "don't read books" like it is a good thing; it's not an accomplishment. It is almost an endorsement of giving up because you have the ability to go work up north. However, now that that industry is drying up, what are those same high school students going to use as an excuse for failing out? What are those 25-30 year olds with and underwater mortgage, car payments, and no education going to say?

You're right that lots of people with degrees are working in restaurants, but where does that put the people who gave up on post secondary and couldn't make it in the patch?

Anyway, I think what kraptastic was getting at with the military reference is that if that is your only option, don't make it look like you're sacrificing to get there. If you have no education and no job where you came from, you're not sacrificing to go work the rigs you have no other choice.

Edit: hit send too early Edit 2: First off, let me say that the oil patch and oil sands are absolutely necessary jobs and critical to our society. Also, good on you for leaving behind a different career to go and pursue this, I hope you have a long and healthy career.

[–]iseenorocks 50 ポイント51 ポイント  (11子コメント)

Your first sentence perfectly describes my home town. But instead of Alberta, it was Ontario, Instead of rigs, it was factories, and instead of today, it was 20 years ago. Eventually all the factories closed and left thousands unemployed, very few with a high school diploma.

[–]TravellingMcDs 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Windsor?

[–]iseenorocks [非表示スコア]  (2子コメント)

St Thomas

[–]razzberri1973New Brunswick [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

My dad's family all live in St. Thomas. I remember they all at one time have worked building cars, or at Timkin, and some out at Imperial Tobacco. Are there even any big manufacturers left in town? I haven't been up there in a few years, hoping to make it up this summer though! It's a cute little town, despite its issues.

[–]iseenorocks [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Format and prestran are still open, and I believe there's a couple of smaller factories still hanging around.

[–]A_Rope_of_Sand [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

The truth hurts :'(

[–]216news 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oshawa?

[–]DeetoriaAlberta 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I don't know why we don't learn from the past.

[–]CorneliusChronicler 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Because a bunch of us gave up in school.

[–]AltourusCanada [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

^ :) This guy :P

[–]flupo42 [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

to be fair, that this happened doesn't mean the factory workers were wrong. Lets say said FW buckled down in school, had got his diploma, even got a professional university degree as a security for the future in case factory closes. 20 years later it does.

Do you think his university degree would matter when an employer is looking at "20 years in a factory, not using degree and forgetting everything that was learned in high school and university" on the resume?

Training skill/knowledge sets for "just in case" - doesn't work. If you aren't going to use that skill knowledge in next 3 years, you will lose it and you are better off not wasting time and money on it now.

Though there is something to be said trying to build up a pillow big enough that you can retrain.

[–]thegovernmentinc [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Same here in Nova Scotia's rural outposts, but it was fishing rather than oil and manufacturing.

[–]bsbbtnh 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

A person who doesn't do well in school isn't some evil person who should have to live on minimum wage for the rest of their life. Some people are just bad at school, they don't like the routine, they value other aspects of their life. Should we encourage people to complete high school and further their education? Of course. But this isn't the route for every individual.

The oilfield is a big place. You can get by doing grunt work, killing your body, for a decent wage. But most positions in the oilfield DO require some sort of education or knowledge. There's a whole industry built around oilfield education, test writing, tickets, etc. Most people in the industry do have a decent education. It's not like it's some big farce up there, with a bunch of grade 9 educated kids running around, trying to pull oil out of the ground.

They are hard, dangerous jobs, with long hours and plenty of sacrifices. Most people who give up in school wont make it in the oilfields for long.

Anyways, my experience in high school was that most guys wanted to be mechanics, or auto detailers, etc. I can't even remember anybody dropping out to work on the rigs. Most 17-18 year olds don't want to start working one of the most physically challenging jobs, and those who do it should be applauded for their work ethic.

[–]dannysmackdown 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I was encouraged by school councillors to drop out of higher level math.

[–]Irisversicolor [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

I was encouraged to drop out altogether, sometimes I think I finished purely to spite them. Sometimes I think that was their plan. Now I own my own business and I love what I do.

[–]Fieldnotary [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

I understand totally.

It's the same mind set you see from hockey players.

In a way I regret not taking an oil and gas path, as I think there's an opportunity to build character, and a future. Sadly, most opportunity is squandered.

I'd still love a chance to see if I'm up to the challenge, though.

[–]tomselllecksmoustash [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

That by itself is pretty arrogant though. People don't join the military because it's their only option. They join the military because out of all their options, that was the best one. The guys who join the military are not working minimum wage and are well compensated for their work. They even have the option to get a free university degree.

[–]MrGraveRisen [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

A common belief in Alberta high schools is that one does not need to try in school to be successful because he (or she) can always go and work the rigs and make his fortune

since when? Not something I experienced

[–]Eggmcmuffington 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I understand you're reading too much into what he's saying and taking it way to personally.... But really, don't be a dick

[–]kraptastic -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (10子コメント)

I think it has more to do with effort than intelligence. Alberta is an easy way out for a lot of people. I'm in a professional school- and I think not having an education can only get you so far, in most cases.

[–]theladygeologistCanada 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (7子コメント)

That is an incredibly arrogant attidude. Education =\= smart.

In addition, the bulk of the work available in the oil patch isn't easy, not by a long shot. Camp work, rotation work, outside work on the northern prairies - none of that is easy.

I'm not sure why you think it's okay to think that oilfield workers or beneath you, or that your choice to pursue higher education is somehow better.

[–]AyaJulia [非表示スコア]  (3子コメント)

Everyone keeps going after /u/kraptastic for feeling like he's above oilfield workers, but that's not what I'm getting from him at all.

You have your nerds in school, always with their nose in a book. And you have your non nerds, who don't try as hard because they plan to walk a different path. And if it ended there, that would be okay.

But let's be realistic. Kids are fucking mean. It never ends there. The laid back crowd tends to be mean to the hard workers for working hard. Are they all like that, absolutely not. But the impression you get of a group as a whole tends to be formed by its loudest members.

So you have people who worked hard in school, resentful at the laid back people for making school hell for them. Lol bro why are you trying so hard? None of this matters, I'm just gonna go work the rigs, I thought you were smart? Lol seems like I'm the smart one, I'll probably be making more money a year from now than you'll be making ten years from now. Yo did you go to Emma's party on Saturday? Oh right you weren't invited. How's that SAT prep going? Lolol.

Again: are they all like this? No. But no one remembers the quiet ones.

Then they get to the stage of their life when they work hard, act like they are the one true type of work and no one else with a job works as hard as they do. And they get home and tell people like /u/kraptastic to go choke on their student loan debt. That's an actual response he's gotten in this very thread by the way.

It's hard not to feel some schadenfreude when someone who invested no initial effort in school and mocked those who chose a different path gets laid off. Are good people being laid off too? Of course!

But maybe... Maybe some of them are reaping what they've sown.

[–]theladygeologistCanada [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

This just makes me feel old. Give it a few years and you really won't be so worried about who was mean in high school, if you even really remember high school.

And there are oilfield workers of all ages and demographics being laid off right now - something to keep in mind.

[–]AyaJulia [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

I think you're making incorrect assumptions about my own age based on my interpretation of another user's words. :)

I think you're also underestimating the impact school can have on people. School is well long gone by for me and I can still recall, quite vividly, how unfair everything felt.

[–]tomselllecksmoustash [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

They only laid off 300 people total. That's 300 out of their 15,000 employees. If this had been the McCains, it would have laid off 1/10th the total population of Prince Edward Island. Had this been the Sobey's, you would see a lay off of a percentage of the Canadian population. But this is the oilfield, they laid off 1% of their employees and are heading towards 2%. It's scary because they've never laid anyone off before.

But the people who got laid off WERE NOT your "uneducated" laborers driving giant trucks around. Those are the guys who end up with all the job security, because they make the company all the money. The people they got rid of were university educated middle managers.

It's ironic that /u/kraptastic ASSUMES that it was all his bullies who lost their jobs, but it was actually more likely his friends who lost their jobs.

[–]RcNorth [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

You are correct, education =\= smart. One of the problems with this is that most of those who do the hiring, use education as their primary measuring stick to determine who they will interview.

[–]Sionn3039Canada [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

No man, employers are looking for street smarts.

[–]theothersmokingman [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

I pretty much came here to say that.

/Is months away from putting Ph.D. after his name.

[–]she-hulk 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Easy way out? My husband is on a rig and it's the hardest job he's ever done. His one his 23rd day in a row of 12hr night shift because they're going until all the jokes are done. Away from his family, working in -40c temperatures doing extremely hard labour.

He didn't do well in school because he has a learning disability and he grew up in a small town that wasn't equipped to even notice that he had a learning disability until it was way to late and he was so far behind there was no catching up.

I, on the other hand, went to college and then university. I got an easy job out of school where I make quite a bit of money and work not a lot of hours. If anything, post secondary is the easy way out because I will never have a day where I work half as hard as he does and I get to come home at the end of every day and see my children and he gets out there and doesn't know when he's going to be coming back because he works for a small company that doesn't always have a relief shift. They did a 45 day hitch, then a 14 day hitch and now he's back on day 23 and he doesn't know when he's going to be done.

[–]tomselllecksmoustash [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

My buddy went to university for one year, dropped out and then went to the oilfield. He has over 80 different safety courses. University isn't the only form of education (by the way everyone is required to have those safety courses complete).

[–]therealslimscullyOntario [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Your comments in this thread have been very well put.

[–]elect_rick_lettis 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You sound a bit jealous honestly.

[–]II-Blank-II [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Are you trashing all trades or just riggers? I'm an electrician and I've worked many years in the oil industry building the electrical foundations for the oil sands.

Are you trying to say that I shouldn't be? Or that I haven't sacrificed to be where I am?

I want you to think, these guys work out of town for many many days on end. Away from family, friends and society. The oil field guys and trades up here all have dangerous jobs that can have us severely injured or killed.

For you to say we don't sacrifice anything is so insulting and it makes you look like an ignorant fuck. On top of that, that oil industry is what's feeding this country and keeping it economically balanced. That money does not stay only in Alberta but is funneled to every other province in the country.

How insulting to have some pompous little brat who thinks that their choice is better just because. I joined the trades because there is a large demand. The money is good and it is only four years of schooling for an electrician which some of it is paid for by the government because the trades are in such a demand. I think you need to take a step back and get your head out of your ass. You sound like about as much of a douchebag as the people you are insulting.

[–]mountainroad 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (10子コメント)

One of the most bitter, disgustingly arrogant comments i have ever seen on r/canada. Making sweeping negative generalizations about hard working canadians whos labor and efforts have created massive wealth for this country. So you went to university, so did I, so did lots of people. Other chose a place in the skilled trades and others simply went and worked their asses off in hard conditions to earn a living or even get ahead a bit and you look down your nose at them?! Fuck you. Choke on your debt you pompous prick.

[–]DeetoriaAlberta 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (7子コメント)

My issue is that it drives up cost of living so those of use who don't work in the oil directly, but are still services that those in the oil field rely on, can't live. I pay 820$ for a small, 1 bdrm apartment in a shitty area of Edmonton. I'm a hairdresser and am a skilled, red seal tradesman ( women ) and oil field workers balk at paying me 35$ for a good haircut. That's what pisses me off. You come up here, make all this money causing the rest of us to live paycheck to paycheck and yet refuse to give back. I've heard many oil field workers from other provinces say ' it's not my home. I'm just here to work, ' That attitude pisses me off. Or, the other line I hear is ' So? Go work in the oil field, '. If everyone did that, there'd be no one to get you your Tim Horton's in the morning, serve you beer in the evening or man the gas station when you fill up your jacked truck.

I also work 12 hour days, I have schooling behind me and experience. More years of experience then most people making four times what I make with very little education. When I first moved here, it was affordable but over the last ten years cost of living has jumped enormously and wages don't keep up, unless you're in oil.

I don't think I'm better then anyone. But I have found that many oil field workers do think they're better then other because, as stated, ' I know what it's like to work 16 hour days in -40 weather, '. They look down on academics and those who went to university. Not all oil workers are like this though, so I will not say all of them, but there is a certain attitude that tends to come with it. But on the other side, some of my best friends, and one in particular I can think of, is a welder and has had my back in more ways then one ( sometimes financially ). I just think there needs to be a middle ground.

[–]she-hulk 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I've lived in Calgary and I've lived in Ontario and the cost of living isn't that different. You pay $850 for a 1bdrm apartment? I paid $1300++ for a 2 bdrm townhouse in Peterborough Ontario (very small city 2 hours from Toronto) the biggest difference here is the housing prices, it's a lot cheaper to buy a house here but if you compare Toronto to Edmonton the cost of living isn't that different but you're also making more money in Edmonton as a hair dresser than you would be in Toronto.

Unfortunately, all over Canada cost of living is high and wages are not rising as fast. It sounds more like you're feeling the pinch the way the rest of us are and are trying to find someone to blame but you're lashing out instead of up. The oil rig workers aren't forcing up the cost of living in Edmonton except maybe the cost of real estate, but except for food the day to day cost of living is actually lower in Edmonton than other major cities. Vancouver for example is way more expensive than Edmonton as well.

[–]DeetoriaAlberta 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm not lashing out. It's the truth. I'm lucky I'm paying what I am. That's considered cheap and it's not a nice apartment. It's in a not so nice area of town as well.

Think what you want though.

[–]tomselllecksmoustash [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

$35 is insanely high for a men's cut, especially for Edmonton. I go to a place on 82nd street called Maxqter's and he charges $12 for a men's cut. All hair styling is completely included in the price.

As for no one working at Tim Horton's.... well that's what happened. No one was working at Tim Horton's so they hired almost entirely temporary foreign workers. When I first came to Edmonton it was kind of weird going to some of these remote northern areas and seeing that all the Tim's were staffed by Filopenos. But no one out here wants those jobs.

[–]Loire55Alberta [非表示スコア]  (2子コメント)

I don't mean to be rude, I respect hair dressing as a field (my sister is one), but the typical man's hair takes 20 minutes to cut, if you do 2 of those an hour at 35$ a cut you're making more than the average oil worker not to mention the tip (people tip their hair dressers right? Or have I been doing it all wrong my entire life?).

60-70$ an hour before tax is easily livable in Alberta.

[–]Sionn3039Canada [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

You can't seriously think a hairdresser makes as much as a patch worker. Hairdressers do not make 70$ an hour.

[–]Loire55Alberta [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Considering my girl does my hair in 20 minutes and charges me 35$ and has somebody immediately before me and after I imagine that, yea, even ignoring tips she pulls 60-70 an hour.

Then again I don't go to Supercuts, so there's that.

E.: I'd like to point out the woman I replied to in this thread specifically mentioned charging men 35$ for haircuts so she is obviously in this ball park as well.

[–]45RPMCanada 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sorry, are you 20ish and from Ontario? Because he's pretty much dead on in characterizing about 2/3rds of the people I know who went out west in the last 3 years. Now, yes, that does leave the other 1/3 of very nice guys and girls going out there, but still.

[–]renegadecanuck [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

It's funny, you kind of proved his point. He never said he was better than anybody, he was pointing out his experience with a lot of the people on the oil fields. Your response was to get self righteous and make fun of his debt.

[–]tomselllecksmoustash [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

When I was in university Suncor visited our school. Their booth was completely empty. Everyone went towards Ontario and Quebec industries. Their promoters were just so much better than ours. I went over to Suncor took information, applied and got the job. Out of Suncor's 14,000 employees about 1,000 of them couldn't get out of high school.

The real problem was you (and everyone out age) were sold a vision of the future that didn't match up with reality. Everyone was told that people who did well in school would just de facto earn more and be better off and school and those who didn't would fall into subsistence... and that didn't happen.

So when it came to that Suncor recruitment booth everyone passed by it, because dirty oil business wasn't for them. What they were missing is that Suncor needed everyone to thrive. My opening offer was $130,000 with a $500,000 spending account (for hotels, food, drinks, and transportation). My first couple of years at Suncor I saw the entire world.

All the while my friends who took jobs with McCains, and Sobey's, and Loblaws were part of massive lay off schemes.

The big difference is that when you're a tradesmen, you can work anywhere else in Canada.. because there's a demand for trades everywhere. If I were to lose my job, it would not translate very well into any industry and I'd probably have to start at the beginning (much like all the laid off people from McCains, Sobey's, and Loblaws).

[–]therealslimscullyOntario [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

And what happens when you finish your degree and end up in a flooded market of graduates with the same degree and suddenly you can't get a job? It could happen to anyone, in any program. You are no better than the guy who goes and works on a rig and pays huge income taxes that subsidize about half your tuition.

[–]Kelly_Gruber -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Does it burn you up inside knowing average hard working guys are worth more to society then you and your shitty arts degree?

[–]Koss424 [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

except, that we're now supposed to feel sorry for the hard working fella that make a living in the most volatile market in our history. If you work in Natural Resources, expect big ups and big downs. It's always been that way. On the plus side for the economy though, logging is making a comeback in Ontario.

[–]TO_throwaway1 -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shout out to your uid. KG is my favourite jay.

[–]SerMontagoo [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

For me it's because people working up north will let you know how hard they work, whether you asked them or not. Pulled a 14 hour day? Good for you. Making $8k a month? That's great. You don't even need to ask, they'll update your facebook feed every single day with what a rough life it is up there and how tough they are.

[–]Newfoundlander89Newfoundland and Labrador [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

I also find it hard to be sympathetic. The Alberta guys I know bragged about all their money and all the things they could buy. I don't think they realized there's a difference between being able to buy something and being able to afford it. Now, they have zero savings and may be laid off soon. I cannot feel bad for anyone who is bad with money, regardless of their industry. I'm not saying this is true for everyone in the patch, but definitely of a lot of young guys I know.

[–]neekol -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

hahaha you're such a dickhead. MAYBE, just sayin', not everybody is meant to go to college. I personally think college is overly hyped and pretty useless in the long run considering I took Intstrumentation and now work a job and make more than I would in my chosen path (which doesn't need college).

[–]joshuajargon -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

aka an emotion called jealousy.

[–]HuGz-N-KiSSz-N-SHiT [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Soooooo jelly. ^

[–]45RPMCanada 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, from my perspective most of you guys would come back here every once in a while to tell us how your home province sucks while being massive dicks to everyone around you. So there's that.

(with exceptions, of course.)

[–]mancin 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't know man, I do it. But I still make fun of the young and rich oil lifestyle, it's kind of silly when you think about it. I do fly-in fly-out though so I get to disconnect a bit more than people who stay out there all the time.

[–]ZhuangZ2 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't like the way those places change people, when people come back they're fucked and the fuckedness comes back with them. suddenly cocaine addled douchebags and prostitutes are all around in places they've never been before

[–]admiraltoad [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Am I missing something from this post? I thought the joke was that the person selling the truck was clearly an idiot for trying to sell his vehicle to people who just got laid off and for encouraging drinking and driving. How is this a slight on the people that go to Alberta to work at the labor camps?

[–]Anon_Amous [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

As somebody who has stayed "back home" please for the love of god don't do yourself the disservice of regretting making something of yourself.

Hopefully I will leave next year but it will be out of country rather than just out of province. This part of Canada is soul-sucking for a young person.

[–]kiddhitta [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

I currently work on the rigs and the main reason this joke is made is because it's true. When I went out to Alberta, I thought it was just a stereotype but it's true. Though I have met a lot of great guys, I've also met enough to fit that stereotype to see why people look at riggers in a bad light. Reality is, it's a bunch of uneducated guys who make a lot of money and think they're badass as fuck. But the truth is, most of them have no life outside the rig, see their kids for 6 days a month, relationship/ marriages end because they're never around and most who have been there for a decent number of years will tell you if they could do something else, they would. Now they're stuck in this lifestyle that they have to make $150,000 a year to pay for it and know they can't get a job anywhere else. But it's all what you want in life. If making money is all you care about, then go for it. I've learned a lot on the rigs, I've worked on Christmas for three years in a row one of which it was -48. I know I've worked hard and have done a lot of things others people would not have been able to make it through but I'm not gonna pretend I'm the shit because I'm not a complete retard. Truth is, if you can not be a complete fuck up, you can work on a rig. Drillers aren't drillers because they're really smart. They're drillers because they've worked there longer. If I wanted to become a driller, I just need to stay there for ten years but that.

[–]Koss424 [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

I think it goes both ways. There are a lot of oil feel workers who have a superiority complex as well. (how they justify that I'm not sure)

Personally, I think it's great that so many in the country have been able to make a decent living during Alberta's boomtimes. However, that doesn't make the people out there smarter or better than people in the rest of the country either.

[–]PoloruinedmylifeOntario [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Now im going to criticize you guys for lack of a sense of humour.

[–]Jalien85 [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Where do you get 'hate' for people like you out of this post? The 'hate' is for the people in your industry who fit the stereotype portrayed in this joke. And it is just a joke. And those people do exist by the thousands.

Source: Have lived in Alberta my whole life.

[–]EastCoastKids [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

You're just a cook at a camp and your gf has small tits lol

[–]phantomfigure 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (24子コメント)

not everything has to change my friend

Is it really like that up there? Would like to hear from a local or travelling oil sands worker on that one. Must be some pretty interesting stories.

[–]p4nic 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (16子コメント)

Less interesting, more depressing. I've met more than one 20 something that went up to fort mac with dollar signs in their eyes only to come back in debt with a giant truck, a drug habit, and herpes. Most of the actual success stories I've heard are from people going into dry camps.

[–]phantomfigure 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (13子コメント)

Thanks and this correlates to the anecdotes I've heard living in BC. Mostly about the income being sky high. The pitfalls for young workers you describe I had not heard about though. Good lesson about money to learn young though.

[–]dannysmackdown 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yea rig pigs go up, make a shit ton of money, buy a lot of toys/coke and then get laid off or hours cut and are in huge debt.

[–]bsbbtnh 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Some do, some don't. When you're a 20-something single guy, with no kids, buying toys is pretty much standard.

The drug problems in the oilfield has gone down a lot since most companies do random tests. Drinking though..

[–]not_a_relevant_name 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pretty sure Canadian courts ruled against random testing, you only get tested for site access and following an incident.

[–]p4nic 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Yeah, unless you're in one of those all expenses paid camps, living in ft. Mac will drain that high income away pretty quick, even without the partying.

The STD thing isn't as bad as it is in Jasper, though, I've heard some awful stories from people working the ski hills in the mountains.

[–]nfurtado77British Columbia[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

If you're not living in a camp for free you get a living out allowance. Were in working now you get an extra $125 a day tax free to live outside of camp.

[–]demolitionrob 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

so many companies are banishing loa and camp. Things are changing here

[–]DeetoriaAlberta 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

And that might cover your rent, depending on what you're renting.

[–]travisjudegrantAlberta 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's a myth about Jasper. The population is so transient, there are no meaningful statistics to verify that ancient urban legend.

[–]ghostdate 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I know some girl that works the ski hills in Jasper.

It seems like the entire work crew just gets drunk every day and they all have sex with each other. I know before she moved out there she definitely was going at it with a dude that was pretty well known for spreading the chlamydia and herpes, so yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if everyone out there had one or both, and more.

[–]thedarkerside 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

He, Jasper why I am not surprised. It does attract the younger crowd unlike Banff and I guess Whistler these days is too posh as well.

[–]mochizuki 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Banff is (or was) the STI capital of Canada tho

[–]thedarkerside [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Well, when I moved to AB I was pretty surprised how little people seem to care about condoms etc.

[–]ghostdate 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

One guy I worked with when we were younger went out to Alberta to work the rigs. He ended up with a nasty real pricey drug habit, 2 babies with two different ladies, and a really big truck.

Then he killed himself.

Definitely way more depressing than wild.

[–]SlickFlipQuébec 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

My girlfriend works for a company that deals with counselors that specialize in substance abuse. She's only been there for 6 months, but apparently in the last 2 years the great majority of calls have been coming from Alberta.

Very unfortunate stuff. Especially when you're looking at kids in their mid twenties.

[–]Ionse 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You make double the average Canadian salary if you show up sober and willing to work and it goes up from there. You can blow it on toys, trucks, drugs or invest and retire early. If oil crashes you can go on EI and sit around until it goes up or leave for a holiday with the money you've saved. It depends on YOU just like anything else in life.

[–]BearCorp 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's more of a stereotype than anything.

I've been in Fort McMurray for 5 years, it's becoming a nice city.

But there are these kinds of people anywhere you go, they just stand out more up here because a job that pays almost nothing anywhere else pays $100k+ up here. My first job here was as a student, shovelling dirt, for $400 a day.

[–]Firewasp987Manitoba [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

they just stand out more up here because a job that pays almost nothing anywhere else pays $100k+ up here. My first job here was as a student, shovelling dirt, for $400 a day.

Is it still like that?

[–]smthngclvrnsmrtCanada 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was in the industry for 5 years. There are the people who party like rock stars, yes. Mostly it's the young guys who would spend all of their money on payday - just like any other industry. Most people are fairly responsible.

I spent more money in that job just because I was so drained by the stupid hours. Had to play hard to justify working hard. Still managed to save a lot though.

[–]smopecakes 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've been working in Kindersley SK since the fall at a pipe fab welding shop, one guy was working there for a few months in between a pipelining job. He's 19 I think, didn't graduate grade 10 and once made 50 grand in 3 months with 20 bucks left over at the end. (I think he bought a nice trailer in there though) The last words I heard him say going back to the pipeline were "Hookers and blow". Two guys at the shop were on coke for a few months but the supplier guy is back in BC now. Also, theres another guy who is 20 or so who has 120 grand in one chequing account. They wouldn't let him put more in so now he has two... he has a truck much like the one in the ad.

[–]p4nic [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Yeah, I used to do electrical in Edmonton ten years ago, and many of the journeymen and job leads were like that. While I was apprenticing, they'd be making 3x what I'd make, and they'd be begging for lunch money every day because they'd go out and spend 200/night at the bar.

[–]Christof3Manitoba 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just spent 10 seconds trying to view the second pic in the ad. I need a coffee.

[–]hideyoshisdf 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (19子コメント)

LOL Albertans losing their jobs, being laid off and losing their possessions. Sure is funny, isn't it /r/canada?

[–]The_Mayor 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (3子コメント)

It's a cycle. Ontarians brag about being the economic driver in the country until our manufacturing jobs all leave for Mexico. Albertans laugh at Ontario. Then Albertans brag about their oil industry until Saudi Arabia decides to fuck them over. Ontarians laugh at Alberta. Each time, Canada loses.

[–]LABIA_LISP [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Canada is so rich in resources but is played like a bitch in the global market. It's like we spend all our energy on extracting whatever precious material is in demand, and barely attempt to refine or produce with the material.

Canada could produce all kinds of energy from multiple sources, and generate electricity from wind of sun. I hope the energy industry in Canada doesn't just collapse on itself with cut backs, but rather invests in other energy sources.

[–]theladygeologistCanada [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

I think the worst part is that our politicians play into it, and pit the East against the West and vice versa. "Let the eastern bastards freeze"/"Dutch Disease." Who wins? Definitely not the average Canadian, nor Canada as a whole. We'd all benefit from compassion and understanding and a more unified view. Unfortunately, politicians care about votes, not people, so we get decade after decade of the same bullshit.

[–]draxor_666 [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Here I am in Newfoundland. I'm pretty sure everyone is always laughing at us.

[–]biskino 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've got a lot of love for my home province, but a lot of us really, really really need to lose the bitch-ass perpetual victim complex.

It's a joke, made by an Albertan, about Albertans to other Albertans.

[–]nheddie 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can't believe how far down on this thread I had to read to find someone who understands that it was a joke. Blessed are we (Albertans) who can laugh at ourselves, for we shall never cease to be amused!

[–]The_Bhuda_PalmBritish Columbia 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's a weird mix of "fuck alberta" and "oh shit, that's our industry"

[–]PoloruinedmylifeOntario [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

LOL people with no sense of humour. Sure is funny.

[–]DeetoriaAlberta 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Kind of. I live in Alberta but don't work in oil. These people over spending and being dicks in their over priced trucks causing housing prices to be near impossible to afford unless you work in oil deserve a little bit of a reality check.

[–]bsbbtnh 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (6子コメント)

And watch as the housing market crashes, and all those families that managed to scrape enough money to buy in this market are all screwed over because of it.

Maybe you're in a job where you wont feel the pressures of the economy collapsing, but I bet you've got friends and families whose jobs/hours will go POOF.

Also watch as the Alberta government goes crazy cutting shit, trying to save their massive budget.

[–]DeetoriaAlberta 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh...I know. That's why I haven't bought a place. Prices are ridiculous. I have friends who have overspent and are a lay off away from being bankrupt. It's irresponsible on their part.

[–]bsbbtnh [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

One of the nice things about the oilfields is a lot of the time you can live anywhere in the province you want. Sometimes even out of the province.

I know guys who work here that live in BC, I know guys who live out east and are flown in/out every month. I know a few guys that live in the middle of nowhere.

One of the best places to get your money's worth is probably southern Alberta. Medicine Hat and Lethbridge have pretty decent prices. I've seen 5 bedroom homes going for $300,000 or less. After we (presumably) crash, those prices will likely tumble $50k or more.

And if you live outside of a city (and the suburbs) you can find some great homes. I live in a little town of a couple hundred. The place I'm living in is a 5 bedroom, worth about $150,000, on 4 lots. There are a lot of houses for $400,000 that come with acres and acres, really nice finishes and the whole 9 yards. Probably 3000+ sq ft. But then you're driving an hour if you want groceries. But you take that house (not even the acres of land, just the house) plop it in Calgary or a suburb, and it'll be worth a million or two.

I'll never understand people who live in big cities like Vancouver or Calgary, when they work minimum wage jobs. I lived in Medicine Hat, dishwashing, and made a few dollars more than minimum wage. With overtime I was pulling in close to $1500 ever two weeks, and my expenses were maybe $700 a month (I don't drive). Although I regret not saving, but I don't regret all the fun I had.

[–]quadraphonic [非表示スコア]  (3子コメント)

Oil isn't going to stay low, and it's highly unlikely the housing market will crash as you suggest. There are still many who predict 1% annual growth, despite the current state of affairs.

[–]bsbbtnh [非表示スコア]  (2子コメント)

Depends how long oil prices stay low. Even though there are tons of places laying off, I think you'll see most companies holding out until spring breakup. If oil prices aren't back up in a couple months, I doubt most companies will be bringing anybody back. That's when the market will take a tumble, because you'll have all these oilfield guys who were already off for like 2 months, and then they'll find out they no longer have jobs. Give it a few more months after that for them to sell their toys, realize they've got few job offers, and end up selling their homes.

I'd say it'll be June/July when the downturn hits.

[–]quadraphonic [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

Localized to the patch, maybe, but not Alberta wide. I'd be curious to know how many owned in Fort McMurray though. In my previous work I chatted with quite a few guys from the patch, most of them worked out of camp and lived elsewhere in the province (or country).

This will probably hurt the standing population more (support workers, food industry, etc) who would live in FM and now have a smaller population to serve.

[–]bsbbtnh [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Just because most of the oil is up north doesn't mean the people are. Most of the corporate offices are in Calgary. There are thousands of oil field workers living in Medicine Hat (the most southern city in Alberta). The industrial areas around town are full of oil companies.

A downturn is going to hurt every city in Alberta, same can probably be said for Saskatchewan.

The real losers in this are going to be companies that manufacture goods for the oilfields. We'll likely see those companies closed up or scaled back, and jobs sent overseas (depending upon how long oil stays low). If that happens, those jobs likely wont come back when things turn around.

[–]dacian420Alberta [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

EXACTLY. This is not making fun of Albertans for losing their jobs. This is making fun of FUBAR-inspired stereotypical douchebags who spent the good times buying toys and doing as much coke as they could possibly find during their off-time.

[–]minivan-megafun 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It is because no one in this generation remembers the recession of the 1980's. Just wait. The ride is just beginning.

[–]MrGraveRisen [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Albertans losing their jobs

To be fair I've still only heard of one company doing any layoffs so far. And they're more of a natural gas company than oil to begin with

[–]inonesock [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

finger on the pulse of society.

[–]dannysmackdown 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow, that's so inaccurate. Rig pigs don't drove F350's. They drive a Cummins. Everyone in Alberta knows that.

[–]emanresusinekat 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes.

[–]Sinomurica 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Copy also works in Texas

[–]bobby_badass 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd pay 1800 just to be in this man's presence.

[–]RcNorth [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

The ad did what it was intended to do. It got a lot of people looking at it, and probably sharing on Facebook, etc.

[–]sandcannon [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

hahhaha, I love 'Berta.

[–]dacian420Alberta [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

I'm tempted, honestly.

[–]Fieldnotary [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

I live in Alberta. I have nothing against making a bunch of money. the effect I hate, though, is the effect we're seeing on families in communities with a large number of 'work-away' dads.

Families are really falling apart in many cases, due to dad not being around. Lack of discipline, structure and attention is leading to more negative behavior than we should be seeing in a 'have' province like ours.

[–]84awkmCanada 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

25 yr old truck with 245k on the clock? Seems legit.

[–]ghostdate 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Why that's nearly 10k a year!

[–]mochizuki 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's how I justify my town car, 360,000km and she's 26 years old

[–]Tamer_Québec 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It spent more time being repaired in the last 10 years than on the road and even when it was in driving condition, the owner probably didn't have the cash to gas it up half the time.

Side note, when I dumped my '94 Golf last year it had only 142k on the meter (I put only ~50k on it myself).

[–]KatyCowbelterCanada -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Takes unleaded, righf?

[–]nahtanoj1Alberta [非表示スコア]  (3子コメント)

YEA, FUCK ALBERTA FOR DOING SO WELL THE LAST FEW YEARS, I AM SO GLAD THEY ARE IN THE SHITTER NOW.

[–]Spokowma [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

Its an Albertan poking fun at Albertans, do you actually think Ontarians are so jealous of the past few years of economic success in Alberta that they're jumping up and down cheering that canadians are going to have lower wages? Literally the only reason theyre happy is that a tank is cheaper to fill now.

[–]nahtanoj1Alberta [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

You haven't read the comment section of r/canada very thoroughly since oil is down, obviously.

[–]rickjaw [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

itt: bitter ontarians

[–]fartmasterzero -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Lol at people who don't diversify their education and skills/trades.

You get stuck in situations like these were you are tied to boom/burst and have no stability.

[–]4figureincome 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Are you talking about all the "auto-assemblers" in Ontario? How Ontarios only thing is manufacturing?

[–]fartmasterzero 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Any one. Auto-assemblers are the reason for me losing some sympathy to unions after I saw a piece about three generations of autoworkers complaining about how their lives are fucked because the plants are shutting down or the wages were being altered. They put all their eggs in one basket, generation after generation, and one blip just destroys everything.

It's the same for the Fort Mac set but your seeing it on a shorter time scale with a lot more money and foolish decisions.

[–]makattak88 -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I, too, saw this on facebook.