wow DF is really digging itself deeper into that hole, eh? Wonder if it was not them just their volunteer mod for these forums now. Curious as to how long that person will have that job behaving in such an unprofesional manner. Both of the perm bans that I have seen have no reason listed for their ban just the last thing they said in "quotes". I saw no name calling either just informing customers not to buy an unfinshed faulty product as we have the right to do. It does appear to be quite the censorship or cover up.

Seems like they are deleting even more bad reviews, it's now down to 1587 negative

It is rather pathetic seeing a fairly high-profile developer stoop to such levels to hide the fact that they screwed up magnificently.

What's next? DMCA claims on Youtubers who show and discuss that the game is an abandoned trainwreck? That seems to be the general course of action for devs of that level.

can they even do this? they're making steam look like ♥♥♥♥

Chaplain, they all do it, I think they worse part here is that they've been caught in mid-delete, so to speak. EA and UbiSoft and them at least do their mass cleanups at 4am on like, a Sunday, then claim a server maintenance issue took out the forums. These guys are just outright deleting stuff, while we watch.

Jackal の投稿を引用：

can they even do this? they're making steam look like ♥♥♥♥

This. I understand Steam is only the middleman here but now they applying censorship on Steam forums. Blatantly at that.

It's pretty bad if they can also just delete negative reviews, I would be pretty sure steam wouldn't allow that crap.

Looks like Double Fine can flag reviews as "abusive", and then Steam will review and delete them if they are:
http://store.steampowered.com/reviews/

My guess is they are flagging the reviews that are using strong language when indicating the extent of Double Fine's failure. My question is, can these people re-write their review? Seems like they should be able to, so this is only going to be a short term solution if they can.

Q. I'm a developer. Can I delete reviews of my product?
A. Not directly. If you find abusive or offensive reviews written about your product, you can flag it as spam/abuse. The review will continue to be listed on your store page, but in a collapsed form and marked as spam until a moderator can either delete the review or remove the spam flag.

Well, thing is, one can be mad but one can also express that rage without swearing.
Although I must say, thats one hell of an out, the 'abusive review' thing.
Apparently if your DS9 review had a thumbs down, its 'abusive' - how convenient (for developer)

I should have read the reviews befor i got the game. I want my money back.

The Worst Shot in Denver. の投稿を引用：

I should have read the reviews befor i got the game. I want my money back.

Somehow I think that is going to be the overall theme in gaming for 2015:
Do your research

I'm as annoyed by the game as everyone else, but this 7000 number is just plain wrong. I wanted to be done with this game, and it's my own fault for dropping by again, but this is just too much to let slide. Don't manufacture outrage, let the game and its saga speak for itself.

I checked on Spacebase off and on months before the 1.0 announcement, and I've never seen the number of reviews drop off. I have seen it tend towards and beyond 2:1 negative:positive reviews in that time. Specifically, I watched the # of positive reviews move from 500+ up to over 600, but the # of negative reviews go from 800 or so before the 1.0 announcement to shooting beyond 1500 by the time the winter sale was over. Likewise, it's moved from "Mixed" reviews to "Mostly Negative" reviews, but it never hit "Overwhelmingly Negative" in any English region.

https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://store.steampowered.com/app/246090
Internet Archive supports these numbers

Furthermore, its Steam ranking based on User Ratings (US user) places it at 4122 out of 4278 games available for sale on Steam, which ranks it even lower than the last time I looked it up barely more than a week ago. If anything its ranking continues to fall.

All of this is likely related to Grim Fandango Remastered releasing next week on multiple platforms, including Steam (and is why I dropped in again, to see if it was being brought up in here.) They probably want a Double Fine game forum not to be overflowing with negativity, in case people buy or are about to buy a game see what else is going on with a developer. For example, checking what other games a developer has made or what the community says about them (I've done this). I'm not saying that's right or okay, but that's probably the reasoning for the locked threads and bans.

Fox McCloud の投稿を引用：

I'm as annoyed by the game as everyone else, but this 7000 number is just plain wrong. I wanted to be done with this game, and it's my own fault for dropping by again, but this is just too much to let slide. Don't manufacture outrage, let the game and its saga speak for itself.

I checked on Spacebase off and on months before the 1.0 announcement, and I've never seen the number of reviews drop off. I have seen it tend towards and beyond 2:1 negative:positive reviews in that time. Specifically, I watched the # of positive reviews move from 500+ up to over 600, but the # of negative reviews go from 800 or so before the 1.0 announcement to shooting beyond 1500 by the time the winter sale was over. Likewise, it's moved from "Mixed" reviews to "Mostly Negative" reviews, but it never hit "Overwhelmingly Negative" in any English region.

https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://store.steampowered.com/app/246090
Internet Archive supports these numbers

Furthermore, its Steam ranking based on User Ratings (US user) places it at 4122 out of 4278 games available for sale on Steam, which ranks it even lower than the last time I looked it up barely more than a week ago. If anything its ranking continues to fall.

All of this is likely related to Grim Fandango Remastered releasing next week on multiple platforms, including Steam (and is why I dropped in again, to see if it was being brought up in here.) They probably want a Double Fine game forum not to be overflowing with negativity, in case people buy or are about to buy a game see what else is going on with a developer. For example, checking what other games a developer has made or what the community says about them (I've done this). I'm not saying that's right or okay, but that's probably the reasoning for the locked threads and bans.

1- There were well over 7000 reviews
2- This game was ranked Overwhelmigly negative
These are facts. I even have a post on these forums of the day when I first noticed it.
Spin elsewhere.
edit: my post is gone (surprise) but here's an internet article, in English, from an English region
http://thebitpulse.com/2014/10/spacebase-df-9-leaves-early-access-and-fans-are-still-upset/
2nd paragraph, 1st line
I've been looking at this title since October and it was Mostly negative even then.
Your 'facts' are skewed mate, no one is manufacturing outrage, but you are definitely trying a spin attempt. Its not working.

Doublefine sucks and this should get more attention

Shrapnel の投稿を引用：

1- There were well over 7000 reviews
2- This game was ranked Overwhelmigly negative
These are facts. I even have a post on these forums of the day when I first noticed it.
Spin elsewhere.

There are 0 screenshots, posts, or websites to back up your claim anywhere that I've found. Show me proof, which is on you given your claims by the way, and not just your statements. The threads in this forum prior to the day it moved from Early Access to Release were hidden on that day, but it's still possible to search before that:

• If you go to the 17 pages of posts in Spacebase DF-9 Discussions searching for "Review", none of the posts have a mention of a removed review.
  
• Also went through the 26 pages of results searching for the word "Remove" and while a bunch mention removing the game for sale, and removing toxic posts and posters, none mention removing reviews.
  
• There was 1 day where Valve's reviews system had a system-wide issue, which resolved quickly. Otherwise no mention of removed reviews.

I really, seriously doubt every single mention of reviews being removed would have been caught and wiped if hat you're claiming happened actually happened.

Plus, try actually following captures on the Internet Archive I linked. If you do, it shows the review count trend clearly:

• September 9, no sum total review counter: https://web.archive.org/web/20140909054504/http://store.steampowered.com/app/246090
  I actually tried counting the reviews manually, but it pulls in updated information if the tabs for Positive and Negative are loaded.
  
  
• First available with a total review count is October 13, showing 1,334 reviews:
  https://web.archive.org/web/20141013154046/http://store.steampowered.com/app/246090/
  
  
• Next one is not in English, taken from October 26, showing 1,398 reviews (and the user review status translates per Google as "Mostly Negative"):
  https://web.archive.org/web/20141026144406/http://store.steampowered.com/app/246090/
  
  
• The next one is important, because it's on October 28 so after the 1.0 release, showing 1,553 reviews:
  https://web.archive.org/web/20141028155802/http://store.steampowered.com/app/246090/
  
  
• No pulls from November, but on December 5 it's at 1,847 reviews:
  https://web.archive.org/web/20141205110828/http://store.steampowered.com/app/246090/
  
  
• December 19, @ 1,978 reviews:
  https://web.archive.org/web/20141219181016/http://store.steampowered.com/app/246090/
  
  
• December 30, @ 2,138 reviews:
  https://web.archive.org/web/20141230170752/http://store.steampowered.com/app/246090/

Today it sits at 2,225 reviews. No massive jumps up or down anywhere to be found. Having 7,000+ reviews for the game at all would put it in the same league of Transistor as far as number of reviews for a game. There wasn't even a tiny fraction of Transistor's purchasers to begin with for Spacebase, and I'd say only because of negativity did it get >2,000 reviews anyway.

And despite my opinion of the game, I do have to give Double Fine credit for at least letting discussions like this even happen on a forum they administrate. While they've locked a lot of threads, they've also left them up to be seen.

As a strawman argument, who would they even pay to go through the reviews and tag them? Could they afford someone doing that in the first place?

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Shrapnel の投稿を引用：

edit: my post is gone (surprise) but here's an internet article, in English, from an English region
http://thebitpulse.com/2014/10/spacebase-df-9-leaves-early-access-and-fans-are-still-upset/
2nd paragraph, 1st line
I've been looking at this title since October and it was Mostly negative even then.
Your 'facts' are skewed mate, no one is manufacturing outrage, but you are definitely trying a spin attempt. Its not working.

Just show your quote, it's a lot easier to follow then. Your source's quote, the 2nd paragraph, per your assigned relevance bolded:

BitPulse article, "Spacebase DF-9 leaves Early Access and fans are still upset" の投稿を引用：

The most recent Steam reviews for the game are overwhelmingly negative, claiming that the game is incomplete and that Double Fine failed on its promises. Many cite Double Fine’s revising of the game’s list of features as a primary problem. Before the developer updated it, the page noted that all of the features were subject to change.

http://thebitpulse.com/2014/10/spacebase-df-9-leaves-early-access-and-fans-are-still-upset

No screenshot showing the actual listing of User Reviews as "Overwhelmingly Negative." It is just an apt mid-sentence description of the wave of incoming reviews and NOT of the game's "User Reviews" status on Steam. Plus, see my Internet Archive pull from October 28th above, the exact same day as the article you're trying to reference showing no "Overwhelmingly Negative" status. One of the things I checked over time was the ratio of Negative:Positive reviews, and it to see if the review status would ever tilt to "Overwhelmingly Negative." It never did - it remains at the farthest point it's gone to, "Mostly Negative."

Look through my post history. I'm not trying to "spin" anything and am pretty frustrated with Double Fine over the game and their treatment of Early Access. However, I do try to give a pretty fair shake, and I believe I have.

Sorry "mate," the only spin here is from you. People have plenty of reasons to be upset, frustrated, or what have you. Don't add false ones.

/edited later to fix some weird formatting that editing for grammar screwed up

lol - shill.
1st, I dont have to prove myself to you, some stranger on the internet, who is clearly here doing damage control with your dozens of links and wall of text. No one is going to read all that jibberish and the fact that you have all that info at the ready clearly indicates to me you have an agenda.
Me, I speak plainly, and I get to the point.
The game was 'Overwhelmingly Negative' until they removed well over 1/3 of the reviews. This is fact, you dont believe it, then thats on you- not me.
It must be a coincidence that he uses the same adjective as the final tier of negativity for reviews on Steam too, yea? LOL
Now if you're done shilling in my thread kindly go back to DF or go to some christian forum and make them prove God exists cause we're done here.
Private Profile, not surprising.