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'Feminist or Misogynist' Proves That Everything Is Really Confusing

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Feminist vs Misogynist

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"Feminist vs. Misogynist" is a fun party game to play at your next womyn power sleepover (other suggested activities: decorating your seasonal tampon tree; hitting up your best friend, the ghost of Susan B. Anthony, via ouija board; dismantling the foundations of patriarchy and ushering in a new era of joy and egalitarianism).
As evidenced in this video, which was taken outside of the Book of Jezebel launch party in LA, Feminist vs. Misogynist creates a lot of seemingly contradictory answers. It's like your basic day in the feminist blogosphere! But with more wine, so way better! In this clip, Afternoon Delight director Jill Soloway of wifey.tv asks several real women whether several things are feminist or misogynist. Topics of inquiry include: twerking, anti-rape underwear, cautioning college-aged women not to drink, etc. And, it turns out, no one knows for sure. What a confusing time we live in.
In closing, sometimes the boundary between feminist and misogynist can seem like more of a…blurred line. (Had to.)
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Can someone explain how anti-rape underwear would be misogynist?
I thought that one was pretty clearly feminist, guess not. That last curly haired lady got it right.
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The idea that women are the ones responsible for not being raped is misogynist, and the anti-rape underwear reinforces a lot of wrong ideas, like women are raped by strangers who jump from bushes and not by people they know and that they could be already intimate with, etc etc etc.
http://feministing.com/2013/11/04/twe...
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Anti-rape measures that focus on stranger rape and ignore the fact that the vast majority of rape happens between people who know each other just feeds into the public perception that stranger rape is the only "real" rape. Anti-rape measures that focus on changing the behaviors and choices of the crime victim rather than the rapist are also fruitless in actually stopping rape — they only deflect rape to other victims, because the rapist still exists and is simply going to choose another victim.
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Well if nothing else it proves that feminism can't be reduced down to yes and no answers about relatively arbitrary things with no context. Much like everything in life.
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keep kicking people out and Jezebel will be even more boring and conformist than it already is. It used to be absolutely dynamite, I could read the vigorous arguments on the comments all day. The comments sections now give the impression of a slumber party, some of this business with the greys gives me the idea that some commenters are always clicking each others posts in a little 'lets get each other out of the greys' cabal. It was miles better before this grey business began. People had proper rows. (means fights in UK and rhymes with boughs, dont know if a US term). Kicking people out because they have a different view is not what feminism is supposed to be about. Supposed to host a range of views. I agree with what she says. Third-wave feminism has abandoned the roots.
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In this clip, Afternoon Delightdirector Jill Soloway of wifey.tv asks several real women whether several things are feminist or misogynist.
Whew! I was worried she'd be asking imaginary women these questions.
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this is great.
A huge problem that comes across in this video is that so much of feminism seems hell bent on always portraying women as victims. The problem with this logic is that victims are weak and in need of protection, and, VOILA!, you've returned to 19th century Victorian morality on "woman."
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Yes! I'm astounded at how certain feminists inadvertently describe women as utterly incapable of making informed choices. That every decision a women makes is corrupted by male influence, or social engineering, and therefore choice for women is just an illusion. They seem completely incapable of recognizing how weak and helpless they render women.
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