As a black man, here's the problem with my whole race... (np.reddit.com)
AsABlackMan
21 ups - 0 downs = 21 votes
12 comments submitted at 07:20:13 on Jan 11, 2015 by asapinkrobot
As a black man, here's the problem with my whole race... (np.reddit.com)
AsABlackMan
21 ups - 0 downs = 21 votes
12 comments submitted at 07:20:13 on Jan 11, 2015 by asapinkrobot
http://www.reddit.com/r/ForeverAlone/comments/28r9w1/mydogjustdiedivelostmybrotherand_friend/
Mods, please tag as 'actually black'.
I think the main problem here isn't that the guy is supposed to be lying. The main problem with the "as a black man" always is that reddit will only upvote the "as a black man" that agrees with the hivemind. The point of "as a..." is to somehow validate a statement, which of course is silly.
Also the "here's the problem with my whole race" internalized racism thing.
> internalized racism
Seriously?
I'm convinced that calling people racist for saying things you disagree with is the cause of this problem. (No one seems to have an alternate explanation.)
Compared to the common black SJW 'here's the problem with white people', it's refreshing to see someone asking if problems start from within.
"Refreshing"? It's talked about all the time and lauded by many white people. As if centuries of power imbalance and dehumanization could be fixed only by black people looking within and discovering some malady that affects "the whole race". This concept serves to validate the racist power structures that we've inherited. A minority group talking about the way the dominant group is in a position of power is never equivalent to the dominant group talking about how the minority group is to blame for everything. Those voices aren't equal and shouldn't be listened to equally. The dominant group has an obligation to listen to those minority voices instead of slam them down with a barrage of their own.
You sound like an SJW. People aren't groups, and the opinions of people should not be judged upon what classification you ascribe to them.
All voices are equal.
Voices aren't equal. It'd be a step in the right direction if they were treated that way but minority groups don't have representation in government, business, news, mainstream culture, and other places of power by definition. They already are disadvantaged as far as having their voices heard. What's more is that when it comes to inequality, they're the one's that suffer by it and so they are the experts in what's wrong and what needs to change. It doesn't make sense to ask a white person about inequality black people face. Their voice can't speak for black people because they've never experienced being a black person. They aren't an expert and therefore their voice isn't equal to the contributions from black people. What's more, white perspectives are the dominant group. Despite not being experts their voices are the loudest and most mainstream because the dominant group's perspective is the social norm. Their voice is already heard loud and clear about what they think being black is like when they aren't the experts. That's why they have an obligation to listen to the only people who are actual experts, yet are often ignored because it goes against the status quo, on what it's like to be black: black people.
Also I'm proud to fight for social justice. I teach wealthy people how to listen to people in poverty for my occupation. I'm building a legacy I'm proud of.
You really sound like you've been exposed to a lot of very toxic politics.
> Voices aren't equal. It'd be a step in the right direction if they were treated that way but minority groups don't have representation in government, business, news, mainstream culture, and other places of power by definition.
That's because you're using definitions pushed by ideologues. Minorities in the West are well represented, unlike most other places on Earth (Iran and Lebanon being interesting exceptions).
> What's more is that when it comes to inequality, they're the one's that suffer by it
Again, you're thinking in terms of groups rather than individuals. Members of all races suffer from inequality, and members of all races benefit from it.
>and so they are the experts in what's wrong and what needs to change.
Doesn't follow. Even if your preceding statement were true, that doesn't ascribe any particular expertise on behalf or the victims.
> It doesn't make sense to ask a white person about inequality black people face
Because white people are ignorant?
> white perspectives are the dominant group
Again, people are individuals and have individual perspectives.
> Despite not being experts their voices are the loudest and most mainstream because the dominant group's perspective is the social norm. Their voice is already heard loud and clear
Again, people are individuals and have individual things to say. If you pay very close attention, you may discover that white people disagree on things.
TL;DR: You can't just proclaim your side to be experts in order to silence those you hate. Expertise doesn't come from race but from education. People are individuals and each has a voice which is worth hearing.
Ignoring a person's voice for racist reasons will leave you with far fewer points of view to learn from.
All you've ended up doing is creating a method of dismissing any data which conflicts with your existing beliefs (an "echo chamber"). I'm sure you can see the problems this can cause.
Ugh. When the basics of empathy are painted as evil and "toxic politics". I'm so tired of this shit.
E: you just accused me of hating white people because I said black people deserve to be listened to about their experiences with racism. I'm so done.
> I said black people deserve to be listened to
No, that isn't the issue and you know it. If you're going to be a bigot stand up for yourself and speak plainly.
What you said was that white people shouldn't be listened to.
You said that only black people are experts and whites are not, and therefore only black people should be listened to.
Think about this one day. Think about how other people see you for making a statement like that.
Incidently, you are the reason that actual black people feel the need to insist that they are black. You are the reason for this meme and sub in the first place.
Yep did some digging he's black alright but also sounds like he's alone and a loser based on his post history. (By loser I just mean extremely socially awkward) probably has no real life interactions with other black people except his family
He's Black. However if you read his post history it's clear he's desperate to fit in anywhere.