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DiscussionPublic Apology (self.bravefrontier)
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[–]NaztaNegative Nancy - 4940012079 48 ポイント49 ポイント50 ポイント 14 時間 前 (74子コメント)
I would personally like for you to step down as well. You've clearly overstep your boundary as a Moderator and acted as immaturely as you have in the past. I personally don't give a shit about your apology.
My two cents though!
[–]CKlandSHARKGLB: 127832614 - JP: 64766699 24 ポイント25 ポイント26 ポイント 14 時間 前 (2子コメント)
yeouch, those are strong words
[–]Bluehawk12243255424345 (lvl. 100) 37 ポイント38 ポイント39 ポイント 14 時間 前 (0子コメント)
He's Nazta; don't need to explain more.
[–]HederbombGlobal: 6529140445 IGN: Heder 10 ポイント11 ポイント12 ポイント 14 時間 前 (0子コメント)
You expexted otherwise from Nazta?
[–]jz884208342702 26 ポイント27 ポイント28 ポイント 13 時間 前* (13子コメント)
/u/twofu
I believe when kotein was reinstated as mod, and was only placed on probation, you stated that if /u/kotein were to abuse his powers again, kotein will step down as mod. I believe that time is now.
Overstepping and abusing his power to censor this subreddit is never the answer and will only ignite the flame.
I second naztas request to have kotein step down as mod. Mainly as its not his first nor second abuse of power/"apology"
Edit: grammar
[–]Twofu -4 ポイント-3 ポイント-2 ポイント 12 時間 前 (12子コメント)
What he do wrong? If you can explain then we can discuss about it!
I've never heard of any complaints nor got any messages about Kotein abusing his powers lately?
[–]CBSUGL: 100804081 JP: 92679126 11 ポイント12 ポイント13 ポイント 12 時間 前 (4子コメント)
I'm not advocating his removal yet but... This. Or this. Also this. There were 96 comments deleted in total, the post was as well.
[+]StarOnyx スコアが基準値未満のコメント-10 ポイント-9 ポイント-8 ポイント 12 時間 前* (3子コメント)
I think Kotein didn't know the situation he was getting into.
He's just a mod for 4 months, I don't think he even knew what was really going on and how bad is the situation
[–]SJ_Gemini 5 ポイント6 ポイント7 ポイント 12 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Kotein's been a mod just as long as Doc. They were modded on the same day. He just got his mod revoked and reinstated which is why it only says 4 months.
[–]CBSUGL: 100804081 JP: 92679126 -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 12 時間 前 (1子コメント)
Like I said, I am not advocating his removal; instead, simply providing some actions of an unknown moderator. He has been a mod for over four months of you count the time before he stepped down.
[–]StarOnyx -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 12 時間 前* (0子コメント)
liddat arh...
Kotein mishandled the situation, I guess. I wouldn't really suggest removing his as a mod because there are probably much more worst offences to commit than just removing posts.
Sure, he did ignore the right to free speech and discussion but the main purpose of stripping CowGoesM00's mod rights has already been done. Plus, you can contact the other mods directly to expose CowGoesM00 as well.
Kotein just needs more guidance and advice, I feel. He's probably a young moderator but I'm just guessing. There's not much point in pursuing in advocating his removal of being a moderator, unless I'm missing something else.
[–]henNn-0030692449 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 7 時間 前 (2子コメント)
What do you think he's apologizing for then? You post in his apology thread and act clueless.. I know you probably support Kotein, but c'mon..
How many apologies do we need form this guy? You might be good mates but that doesn't mean he makes a good mod. Even that hacking scum didn't censor the community when that shit storm happened with Kotein a while ago. Let's face it, given his history, he isn't a good mod. There's plenty of better people who can move threads/posts for you.
[–]Twofu 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 3 時間 前* (1子コメント)
Because maybe I wasn't on to see the whole fiasco?
Even that hacking scum didn't censor the community
Because he was never on to see anything happen? lol
There's plenty of better people who can move threads/posts for you.
Name them
[–]SpeedWarp 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 5 分 前 (0子コメント)
I thought you said we could discuss it if someone explained to you? All I see is you attempting to deflect the topic.
[–]StarOnyx 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 12 時間 前* (0子コメント)
Not sure what really happened, but apparently he deleted some posts about CowGoesM00 or something...
A previous mod, I believe.
"In the midst of all this my original thread exposing him was upvoted like 85%, but Kotein deleted all the comments and hid the thread to stop subreddit drama. He then deleted some more threads regarding censorship on the subreddit and went a bit overboard. He censored a bit too hard and to the discontent of the community received backlash back on Cow's apology thread as well as IRC. tl;dr: Cow is a fucking cheater who wanted his mod rights back. I called him out and exposed him. My thread and subsequent threads and comments on said subject were mass deleted by Kotein. Hence this apology."
By SJ_Gemini in another comment
[–]Aryuto 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 11 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Heh.
[–]SpeedWarp 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 7 時間 前 (0子コメント)
I think with everything he has done to affect us negatively, having to issue multiple public apologies, and generally fucking up this much... There must be better candidates for mod. He goes into full-blown "political-campaign" mode when this stuff happens and becomes as fake as a Twinkie.
[–]jz884208342702 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 12 時間 前 (0子コメント)
In his attempt to calm the drama around the situation about m00 cheating/mod status he removed/deleted aka censor any post related to this topic. Essentially, he turned this subreddit that we all stated to be free and open into a dictatorship where we the community are unable to make any post about a old mod coming back but being tied to cheating and keeping his mod privileges.
As a result, i and others feel that /u/kotein is not mature enough to be a mod on this subreddit. Especially, when this is not his first nor second offense.
[–]xJusteezy9613878508 8 ポイント9 ポイント10 ポイント 14 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Damn Nazta.
[–]MrSarcasmm 8 ポイント9 ポイント10 ポイント 14 時間 前 (0子コメント)
I mean I don't think stopping an onslaught of negative posts is a bad thing, it only intensifies the negative atmosphere already present in this community.
[–]PriyaxRishbh 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 5 時間 前 (0子コメント)
I personally agree with this. Your immaturity has shown in your time as a mod, and you've been at the center of a fair amount of drama.
[–]ifuckinglovekatara 10 ポイント11 ポイント12 ポイント 13 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Agreed, I couldn't give less of a fuck about this apology. He just made it to try and look better.
I don't care weather he steps down or not, but for fucks sake this was inexcusable.
[–]InfinityGenesisID82346153 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 13 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Nod
[–]henNn-0030692449 10 ポイント11 ポイント12 ポイント 14 時間 前 (3子コメント)
I second this action! Kotein, you're just not righteous enough for the job, your actions and personality, past and present reflect that. Do yourself a favour, but mainly do the right thing!
[+]Kotein[S] スコアが基準値未満のコメント-13 ポイント-12 ポイント-11 ポイント 13 時間 前 (2子コメント)
but mainly do the right thing!
I agree! I will continue to moderate and grow with this subreddit!
[–]henNn-0030692449 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 13 時間 前 (0子コメント)
If you believe you can change your ways then please do, try your best!
[–]InfinityGenesisID82346153 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント0 ポイント 13 時間 前 (0子コメント)
You better Kotein. Cause if you don't grow I doubt you'll get another chance if this happens again. Godspeed.
[–]Chinny4daWinnyGlobal:937023956 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 13 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Tbf he did sometime in the past. I'll try to dig up the post (if it's still there)
[–]Kotein[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 14 時間 前* (2子コメント)
Thanks for your insight but I will not be stepping down anytime soon! I think I'll be a moderator of this subreddit for a long while. I hope we can continue to get along!
[–]floppybeef 5 ポイント6 ポイント7 ポイント 13 時間 前 (1子コメント)
You made a public apology before and stepped down... and you were pretty much immediately reinstated. What was the deal with that?
[–]Kotein[S] -5 ポイント-4 ポイント-3 ポイント 13 時間 前 (0子コメント)
I explained that here
[–][deleted] 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 14 時間 前 (24子コメント)
This is a slap to the face.
People make mistakes. Look into your past. Tell me you haven't made a mistake. Tell me no one has ever forgiven you before. People are people. Humans. Imperfect at birth. We naturally are greedy and selfish, and as a result, we make mistakes. We step over our boundaries. We are mistakes, in a way.
Give him another chance. He's been a friendly person and a great mod overall. He deserves our respects.
[–]xJusteezy9613878508 6 ポイント7 ポイント8 ポイント 14 時間 前 (20子コメント)
People make mistakes
This is account, what number again?
[–]SpeedWarp 13 ポイント14 ポイント15 ポイント 14 時間 前 (1子コメント)
Clearly this is account 12.2
[–]Bluehawk12243255424345 (lvl. 100) 8 ポイント9 ポイント10 ポイント 13 時間 前 (0子コメント)
listen here you 'lil shit
[–]Yuukai199163860656 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 14 時間 前 (3子コメント)
I believe #4? lmao
[–]xJusteezy9613878508 7 ポイント8 ポイント9 ポイント 14 時間 前 (2子コメント)
/u/melodyzer0 /u/SilentZer0 /u/imarshmallow /u/VeragonixCube
/u/melodyzer0
/u/SilentZer0
/u/imarshmallow
/u/VeragonixCube
[–]floppybeef 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 13 時間 前 (1子コメント)
who are those people?
[–]GentlementlmenSloth - Eu - 69323087 - G - 5374764968 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 22 分 前 (0子コメント)
Unidan Some dude who keeps popping up here leaving negative comments and making a new account every time he gets banned (I guess)
[–][deleted] -5 ポイント-4 ポイント-3 ポイント 14 時間 前 (13子コメント)
Huh?
[–]uselesspieceofsh_t2 10 ポイント11 ポイント12 ポイント 14 時間 前 (10子コメント)
Come on, MelodyZero... You aren't fooling anyone anymore.
[–]IAmAHappyCamp3r 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 14 時間 前 (8子コメント)
If it really is than it is sad. Why does someone care so much about their reputation that will blow over in day if he lurks for a while then makes decently engaging posts and comments.
Making multiple accounts is sad and I hope he just gets on his main if it is him...
[–]MasterDelta629966883 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 13 時間 前 (3子コメント)
From what I have seen, none of these accounts have talked with each other in comments (I may be wrong, I did not look that hard) although Veragonix Cube did comment on TelvePointTwo's post. It remains to be seen. If so, it is sad. They just need to relax, post a little less and post a little better.
[–]xJusteezy9613878508 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 13 時間 前 (2子コメント)
Melody posted something about how people on this sub are mean. Veragonix then replied to the post saying he was being compared to melody.
It's kinda weird to have conversations with yourself.
[–]enchanteddragonsIGN: BF4Fun:) ID: 3918552629 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 13 時間 前 (0子コメント)
I talk to myself the whole time when I'm drawing, and i talk to who im drawing o-o i said Good Morning to Eric today
[–]MasterDelta629966883 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 13 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Yeah that's why I was looking for those instances. Good eye. They all do remind me of each other and the situation is quite suspicious, but I'm not going to conclude anything and probably never will. Reddit will remain faceless.
[–]xJusteezy9613878508 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 13 時間 前 (3子コメント)
He cares too much about karma. Multiple posts in a day, multiple account and tries way too hard to use dank memes for karma. I predict that this account will be downvoted, then there will be a new post tomorrow from a 3 hour old account introducing himself to the sub and asking questions as if he is new to reddit.
C A L L I N G I T B O Y S
[–]IAmAHappyCamp3r 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 13 時間 前 (2子コメント)
I mean I comment a lot when I'm bored but I post very infrequently, but when it's to the level of this its just bad.
[–]xJusteezy9613878508 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 13 時間 前 (1子コメント)
I comment a lot as well. But all of the posts coming from all of Melody's alt accounts have in no way benefitted this sub. Most of my posts are notices for events, surprise dungeons, and I even did a Cardes Guide.
[–]IAmAHappyCamp3r 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 13 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Ehh I try to be funny (key-word "try) Some of my posts aren't that funny and if they are generally looked down upon I just don't venture into that territory again. People need to learn what actually benefit the subreddit or brings smiles to their faces. The upvote/downvote system helps in this regard but some people just don't learn...
[–]profeedsBFGL: 3645193762 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 13 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Seriously!? No wonder I'm getting vibes.
[–]enchanteddragonsIGN: BF4Fun:) ID: 3918552629 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 13 時間 前* (1子コメント)
this is irrelevant, but TwelvePointTwo reminds me of Nine Point Eight XD
i dont like negative math
Trying to upvote everything that was a negative number
[–]ATC0078478760475: Maxwell/Zelnite 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 5 時間 前 (0子コメント)
You and me both.
[–]WanderingSol 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 13 時間 前 (2子コメント)
Not advocating Kotein's removal or anything, but this isn't the first time that Kotein has been involved in mod controversy.
[–]Cocotapioka201090902 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 13 時間 前 (1子コメント)
Wasn't there already a big apology post from him for another incident or am I imagining things?
[–]henNn-0030692449 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 13 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Nope, still waiting on that one :(
[+]iyja スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6 ポイント-5 ポイント-4 ポイント 14 時間 前 (16子コメント)
I would personally like for you to keep quiet as well. You've clearly overstep your boundary as a constructive member and acted as immaturely as you have. I personally don't give a shit about your opinion.
[–]SpeedWarp 7 ポイント8 ポイント9 ポイント 13 時間 前 (11子コメント)
How is his opinion not constructive? Someone has to play the devil's advocate. He shared his opinion which has as much merit as mine or yours, and he actually did it in a blunt but albeit respectful way.
[–]iyja -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 13 時間 前 (10子コメント)
It's stirring discord within the community. Kotein is not going to step down and Nazta is not going to get along with him. It's going to leave us in argument hell.
[–]floppybeef 5 ポイント6 ポイント7 ポイント 13 時間 前 (7子コメント)
No, Kotein is the one stirring discord with the community. I don't even follow this sub's fucking bullshit drama, but I know every time it's happened Kotein has been at the heart of it. He's like fucking 16 or something so you can't blame him for being a stupid kid, but that doesn't mean a kid should be put in charge of a community.
[–]iyja -5 ポイント-4 ポイント-3 ポイント 12 時間 前 (6子コメント)
Alexander was regent of Macedon at age 16 and he made plenty of mistakes during his regency. If his father removed him for those mistakes, there would be no Alexander the Great.
Kotein made mistakes. He apologised for it and if we do not accept it, we become the narrow minded ones. His active contribution to the sub is evident. He is not alone in his iniquities. Twofu was guilty as well but the majority forgave him.
[–]floppybeef 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 12 時間 前 (2子コメント)
How does Kotein contribute to the community exactly? Commenting? There are plenty of users who actively contribute to the sub and to the Help threads, that doesn't mean they're automatically given Mod status.
Yeah, people sometimes deserve forgiveness. Kotein fucked up, got put on probation, now he's fucking up again.
My only problem with Kotein is that he creates this bullshit fucking drama that clutters up the sub. It's fucking ridiculous
[–]iyja -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 12 時間 前 (1子コメント)
True, there are others that comment, but none with the frequency and timeliness of Kotein's. He fucked up this time because of his eagerness to defend Cow, the guy who encouraged him when he needed it the most. The way he has gone about is questionable, but understandable.
I choose to see the silver lining in the storm cloud. Kotein will come out of this more prudent in his future modding duties.
[–]floppybeef 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 12 時間 前 (0子コメント)
I choose to see the silver lining in the storm cloud.
Good for you, man. But you're in the minority here.
[–]SJ_Gemini 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 12 時間 前 (2子コメント)
To be fair, you're using an extreme anomaly as an analogy. To be quite frank many people still clamor on about the contents of the subreddit and how shallow it's become. It's just fanart and dank maymays on the front page most of the times or Gumi hate. Just because Twofu reconciled his actions from that day doesn't mean that he doesn't feel the same way about the devolution of the subreddit in terms of good discussions.
[–]iyja 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 12 時間 前 (1子コメント)
You're right about the anomaly. It was an illustration of focusing on the potential of Kotein instead of his mistake.
With Doc gone, the substance of this sub has taken an extreme hit. The only thing that is keeping me here is Xerte with his data mining. If he goes too, I'm out of this sub.
[–]SJ_Gemini 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 12 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Well the discontent of the other redditors are probably from mistakes he's made in the past. I don't really have an opinion of whether or not he should stay but he does a good job of cleaning the sub.
Doc's not gone. Many others have contributed to unit analyses in midst of his absence as well.
[–]cv1218200091671 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 13 時間 前 (1子コメント)
What part of what he said causing discord. If you don't like his opinion, then who are you to change it?
[–]iyja -5 ポイント-4 ポイント-3 ポイント 13 時間 前 (0子コメント)
That's the result of the outright diss of the apology. I like his opinion as much as he likes Kotein's and he's free to disregard my opinion. I'm not changing his opinion, only showing my opinion of what I think of his opinion.
[–]xJusteezy9613878508 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 13 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Nazta is known for the way he comments and stuff.
Negative Nancy
[–]henNn-0030692449 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント0 ポイント 13 時間 前 (2子コメント)
I would personally like for you to stop using alt accounts. You've clearly overstepped your account limit boundary. I personally would like to see you post on your main account.
[–]I_AM_EXCELLENT9035589862 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 13 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Just wondering, that's a 2 year old account, how do you know it's an alt?
[–]iyja 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 13 時間 前 (0子コメント)
This is my only account.
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