131
132

Dalhousie suspends 13 dentistry students from clinic amid Facebook scandal (cbc.ca)

Drone9 が 投稿

並べ替え:
ベスト
ベスト
トップ
新着
注目
論争中
古い順
あなたは単独のコメントのスレッドを見ています。

残りのコメントをみる →

[–]drunk_escapadesOntario -6 ポイント-5 ポイント  (109子コメント)

What an absolute fucking joke. This is a blatant affront to freedom of expression for these young adults. It seems as if universities are no longer centres of learning, but leftist SJW paradises where faculty can play fast and loose with reason.

[–]Bambooze 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't conflate the SJW neo victimhood movement with actual leftism and liberalism. There are many of us that support betterment of the world through social support and tackle actual injustices without the need to prove how special we are, and how the world has "wronged" us.

[–]Pardy_GirlManitoba 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (65子コメント)

Freedom of expression does not mean freedom from consequences. If you say something douchey, sure you have a right to say it. But that means someone who doesn't like what you said has the right call you on your bullshit. That freedom street you all love to hide behind is a two-way.

[–]Shit-Just-Got-Epic 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (63子コメント)

So call them on their bullshit. Kicking them out of school goes far beyond that.

[–]Pardy_GirlManitoba 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (62子コメント)

They were suspended from classes, not permanently kicked out.

[–]Shit-Just-Got-Epic -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (61子コメント)

Fair enough. Still an over reaction in my opinion.

[–]Pardy_GirlManitoba 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (60子コメント)

You want some dude working on your sister/mother/wife/daughter while she's under anaesthetic who thinks it's okay to make jokes about drugging female classmates? On a social media website? I wouldn't go to a dentist like that.

[–]Shit-Just-Got-Epic 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (53子コメント)

Maybe or maybe not. Joking about something is a far cry from actually doing it. I have been known to make some seriously crude jokes before. Jokes are just jokes. They do not reflect what is in someones heart.

[–]Pardy_GirlManitoba 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (52子コメント)

I can agree with that much. But let's just say for a moment, hypothetically speaking, that of the 13 students suspended, one or two actually weren't joking. And they make it out into the real world, and open their own practice in your neighbourhood. Now what?

Misogyny is not okay. Not when you're posting it online knowing full well you're going into a profession where acting like a respectable human being is not only recommended, it is required.

[–]Shit-Just-Got-Epic 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (48子コメント)

Unfortunately nothing. Let's say the one or two true misogynists are in fact part of the thirteen, but none of them have committed any crimes yet. We can not know what is inside of them and must, as a society, wait until they break the law before we can punish them.

[–]GoblinDiplomatCanada 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

At least until Tom Cruise gets the bugs worked out in the PreCrime Department.

[–]zapsandal 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (45子コメント)

We can not know what is inside of them and must, as a society, wait until they break the law before we can punish them.

No, we don’t. And there is endless proof of that, by example of professionals who say shitty things and lose their professional license.

In particular, if you are a practicing dentist and say “I want to hate-rape this client”, the professional association will kick your ass out of the profession so fast it’d make your head spin off. They will not wait until you actually rape someone.

[–]no_diceQuébec 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I can agree with that much. But let's just say for a moment, hypothetically speaking, that of the 13 students suspended, one or two actually weren't joking. And they make it out into the real world, and open their own practice in your neighbourhood. Now what?

What kind of logic is this? Let's just say, hypothetically speaking, that one or two of the other Dentistry students that didn't make jokes on a Facebook group have actual intentions of taking advantage of clients. They make it out into the real world, and open their own practice in your neighborhood. Now what?

If you can agree with what he said, then that's that. You can't get into some sort of weird Minority Report pre-cog shit.

[–]_LeggoMyEggo_Canada 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm inclined to believe that most people who /might/ some day rape aren't likely to reveal it ahead of time.

[–]MidnightTideOntario 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

and you seem to think that because you can't say it in public people are not thinking it? I think some people are delusional as to how many scum bag people you are living around and dealing with on a daily basis.

[–]no_diceQuébec 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

There's a huge difference between telling tasteless jokes and acting out the content of said jokes. Just search askreddit for a tasteless jokes thread -- it will be full of "dead baby" jokes and I guarantee you a good deal of those are posted by professionals that deal with the public all the time.

[–]_LeggoMyEggo_Canada -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"You know the best thing about fucking twenty three year olds?"

"There's twenty of them!"

Oh noes! I's a child-rapist!!

[–]blackbird37Newfoundland and Labrador 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Are you referring to the captioned picture of a male holding a cloth up to a female's face that says "does this rag smell like cloroform to you?". Is that what you're insuating means they were joking about drugging female classmates?

Because that seems like a bit of a stretch to me.

[–]swampswing 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Do you think people who make Jew/Oven jokes actually want to murder Jews? Violating taboos is what makes jokes funny.

[–]Pardy_GirlManitoba 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shit can come back to bite you in the ass years later. He lost, by the way.

[–]WhiteBright 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

jokes

Do you understand a joke? It was not a threat.

[–]swampswing 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Freedom of expression does not mean freedom from consequences.

So it is cool if a company fires people for being pro-choice or environmentalists? That is royally fucked up. People have to remember that what is consider "offensive" is arbitrary and changes with time. Not long ago it was consider offensive to criticise Christianity for example.

[–]gruntbuggle 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (16子コメント)

This is a blatant affront to freedom of expression for these young adults.

No, it's not. They are still free to say and post whatever immature, ignorant, misogynistic crap they like. The school has not infrinded on that in the slightest. What the have done is taken away the privilege (not right) of attending their university because they broke that institution's rules.

It seems as if universities are no longer centres of learning, but leftist SJW paradises

What a wonderfully Meatacanadian thing to say!

And of course that is exactly what this one incident means, every single university is no longer centres of learning but hippie communes where Mother Earth and wymanhood are worshiped and anyone can be kicked out for saying the word "nipple".

And social justice! What a load of nonsense that is!

By the way, it's actually really shitty that Dalhousie did this, they may end up regretting it because it feels like they didn't want to kick them out and are only doing so because of public pressure. That may not play well in a civil suit.

So you're actually right about it being a fucking joke but you wrapped it so much wrong it hardly matters.

[–]pasjobQuébec 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (12子コメント)

Actually sexual harrasment is forbiden in the workplace too.

The same year as #BeenRapedNeverReported, young adult think it funny to 'joke' about raping women. Then redditors defend them because of free speech and anti- 1984 rethoric.

Freedom of speech is autonomy, it's not the absolut absence of restriction to say what you want without taking responsability for your actions.

[–]Shit-Just-Got-Epic 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (10子コメント)

But if you never make comments directly to a person you are not harassing them.

If I bug your house and learn that you say mean things about me in privacy, do I have a right to claim harassment?

[–]VelvetJusticeBritish Columbia -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

But if you never make comments directly to a person you are not harassing them.

That's not true at all. Maybe you should read up about it.

[–]Shit-Just-Got-Epic 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I just read that. I do not think they are talking about private Facebook groups when they are talking about "cyber bullying". It would be more akin to posting jokes about you that you were intended to see.

Is it cyber bullying if I make jokes about you in a email exchange?

[–]VelvetJusticeBritish Columbia 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It is, because if it's made in a climate where it easily could get back to me - like at work, or at school - it would be viewed as harassment.

You don't have to directly say something to someone to harass them. Revenge porn, for example, is harassment.

[–]Shit-Just-Got-Epic 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm thinking intentions count here. Mens Rea or however it is spelled. Revenge porn is clearly harassment, but saying I want to cum all over so and so's face in an email exchange that so and so is not part of, seems to be in a different category.

[–]pasjobQuébec -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

There were 20 person in the facebook group, and more knew.

[–]no_diceQuébec 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That doesn't answer his question.

[–]blackbird37Newfoundland and Labrador -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ohh fuck, there was a twitter hastag campagin! The world is officially a better place and rape became something that can't ever be joked about ever.

[–]WhiteBright 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

leftist SJW

I am a "leftist" and I find this faux outrage over these comments absurd. This has nothing to do with left vs right and everything to do with people being whiny little babies.

[–]unofficial22 -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So I guess ethic only apply to gamergate to you ?