Déjà Vu January 7, 2015
Posted by FCM in logic, meta, rape.Tags: feedback loops, global climate change, NTE, NTHE, overpopulation
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i commented earlier that it feels very familiar to be where i am now, that is, having taken my thoughts to their logical conclusion, i find previous “networks” and even somewhat friendly working relationships have become…strained. due to the sudden onset of my obvious insanity i mean democratic politics, man-hating, transphobia, defeatism, i am not simply no longer on the same page as my former colleagues, but as of 5 minutes ago or whatever i am no longer able to evaluate evidence/reason, to make connections, or to correctly intuit or interpret the world around me and am in fact completely unrecognizable and also a big jerk, a mean drunk and retarded on top of it. stop hurting my feelings guyz!!!!!! i mean did i miss anything? happens every 5-6 years or so, looking back on my history (i came out as a democrat in high school). nothing new under the sun.
so anyway! i wanted to document, since that is what weve been doing here this whole time, and since there may or may not be some questions about it, exactly what brought me to the place im in now — having given up all hope for social or political reform, because i have given up on men, because i see what they are and what they do and that they will never stop, because they never have, i see pretty clearly that men have already successfully destroyed the world. its a done deal.
to be clear, i now believe that abrupt global climate change, up to and including that which will cause human extinction in our lifetimes is a real possibility, not only because there is evidence to support this (there is) and not just because i can feel it (i can) but because there could be no other outcome but this. this is in fact the only logical outcome to the problem of men and maleness that has infected the world cross culturally and across time (and which therefore transcends socialization…but i digress).
as many of you know, because you were there, about a year and a half ago, i really started to see men for what they are, which is ruthless brutal necrophiles and creative destroyers, and i reasoned that they like being this way and want to continue — if they didnt, they would not have created all their social institutions to support it. (tell me they hate themselves and what they do! i dare you.)
and not only do males like what they are and want to continue (the quality of maleness), they want to increase it (the quantity of maleness) — men want MOAR men and MOAR maleness. if they didnt want that, and if they themselves did not understand that what we know as “maleness” is inherent to themselves/bone deep, they would never have started the global practice of female-specific infanticide to create relatively more males than females; nor would they have rather ingeniously come up with pro-male and anti-female technologies including medicine, where males are known to be the more feeble and sickly sex. get it? now we have MOAR males, in both relative (more males than females) and absolute (increasing numbers of men) terms.
indeed, it is obvious that men have created more men and maleness than nature would have ever allowed in the absence of brutal pro-male, anti-female social engineering envisioned, built and enforced by males for millenia. and here is where we get into the thick of it, and why, i believe, our fate has been long sealed: men have created a self-reinforcing feedack loop whereupon males exist in unnatural numbers globally, where males are violent necrophiles and creative destroyers, thus males wield sexual/reproductive power over females abusively, creating more males. get it?
and it is not just a problem of global overpopulation at this point, although that is a very serious problem as well, but a problem of too many (violent, necrophilic) males, specifically. this is what will destroy the world, or at least will make it uninhabitable for humans, or much anything else, and probably sooner rather than later. to wit:
males exist in unnatural numbers globally > those males wield sexual/reproductive power over females abusively > creating more people > men’s social engineering unnaturally skews population in favor of males > those males wield sexual/reproductive power over females abusively > creating more people > men’s social engineering unnaturally skews population in favor of males > those males wield sexual/reproductive power over females abusively > creating more people > men’s social engineering unnaturally skews population in favor of males > those males wield sexual/reproductive power over females abusively > creating more people > men’s social engineering unnaturally skews population in favor of males > those males wield sexual/reproductive power over females abusively > creating more men.
get it? men continuously make more of themselves, thats what they do. the problem of global overpopulation generally is also a feedback loop and as a whole exists due to male-enforced mandatory intercourse and rape — in terms of sheer destructiveness including resource extraction and global climate change this in itself would be bad enough, but then necrophilic males further skew the balance to favor themselves via female-specific infanticide and “saving” males via medicine and technologies when no male should be saved. because of what they do and what they are.
and self-reinforcing feedback loops are game changers, they really are.
so, once i realized that men will NEVER stop making more of themselves — via the above feedback loop — and they will NEVER stop raping, torturing and murdering women based on our sex — because they dont want to stop — well, it made it very easy, actually, to see that they are NEVER going to stop destroying and pillaging the world. men will NEVER EVER stop ever.
and once one realizes that men will NEVER stop destroying and pillaging the world, well, it becomes self-evident that none of this will be saved. doesnt it? it actually becomes very easy to imagine that it was likely too late decades ago, and they didnt stop then either, just like they wont stop now. because thats what men are and thats what men do. and even if the threshhold/point of no return in terms of global climate change due to male-caused overpopulation has not been crossed as of today, it is still too late, because the tipping point will occur sometime — this is a 100% (mathematical) certainty — and men wont stop then either. they will never, ever stop.
this all seems very logical, and obvious to me, and i am not the only one. if anyone can SHOW me how and why the terminal destruction of the natural world (including human habitat) is not the logical, reasonable outcome to mens global, timeless destructiveness and necrophilia, please do so in the comments below (or somewhere! anywhere! go ahead). please dont forget to show your work, including (importantly!) how human habitat is likely to be extended beyond 20-50 years, or indefinitely, considering feedback loops including male-caused global overpopulation and if you have time, global climate change. thank you.
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Of course men won’t stop. They CAN’T stop, because even when they try to, their nature just surfaces in another way. Look at China’s “one child policy” as a measure against population growth. Now there are so many abortions and infaticide of females that some parts of China have up to 30% more men than women (117:100 on average). And surely this policy didn’t decrease the number of males PIV-ing with their gf and wives – women are probably left to deal with the problem, and the law, the best they can (using that wonderful medicine, no doubt).
Do you wim in this space who believe in NTE find it liberating or does it cause crippling anxiety?
However you are lead to it, giving up on men is certainly at the end of my thoughts also. Women only organizations for our own healing are the only logical thing I can think of for women. It was feminists who created the first rape crisis centres after all. Too bad most shelters and rape crisis centre now allow rapist males in and sometimes even flaunt their trannie love.
I have always dreamed of having my own charity of non-profit. Maybe I could make my own woman’s centre, not focused on reforming the law but just as a place women of all ages can have true woman’s space. I would have all the RF books in print there that I can. It would be a very healing place.
Much better than one of countless places where women are like hamsters running on treadmills with male supremacist policy makers ignoring many extremely intelligent proposed policy reforms. No matter how much we protest, how eloquently we speak- whatever we do- men feed off our suffering and they would like it to continue. This is why I don’t believe in NTE, but I can see men destroying our lovely planet eventually. I don’t know when.
Medicine also keeps women alive. And more and more scientists/doctors are women. If the determination to breed more males vs females was the case, the difference would be more obvious around the world. If the human race/planet was going to end anytime soon, we would be significantly feeling it in daily lives- all of us having to use oxygen masks or something. Your point about rape causing overpopulation was a good one btw.
danceexploits, positive feedback loops cause abrupt, catastrophic change, otherwise known as exponential change. do keep up, we have been talking about exponential change for awhile now! including the excellent video posted by wordwoman that explains it well including using visual aids. it very clearly addresses “why” you would not necessarily know anything was wrong until literally the moment before it was terribly, terribly wrong. this is also why it is so aggravating for math and science people to discuss anything with non math and science people, as the old math guy says there seems to be a particular mental block in “humans” specifically (i would say its generally men) against understanding and visualizing the concept of exponential change. women seem to understand “NO” and STOP and “its not sustainable” well enough in our bones (we globally despise and avoid PIV and multiple pregnancies where we can help it for example, as well as what may well be an intuitive “knowing” patriarchy will never last).
also, i think a couple of percentage points globally, as well as up to 5-10% and even 100% sex ratio in some places (100% means no females at all) is significant, especially considering what it probably should be, and would be but for male intervention, which is majority female. honestly, i trashed your comment at first, but decided to publish it anyway. i will probably regret that because its completely ignorant and evinces no work done on your part at all to even understand whats been said including googling NTE for more information about feedback loops if necessary…however your perspective is probably shared by others.
why does something have to EITHER be liberating or cause crippling anxiety? this makes no sense to me. the truth is value neutral isnt it? its the context within which we exist, and we fail to understand it at our peril. for those of us who find cognitive dissonance particularly painful, which i do i guess, the truth, although value neutral, is a balm always. finally, something makes some damn sense, unlike anything most feminists have proposed about how this is all likely to end. global climate change and catastrophic loss of human habitat due to male-caused overpopulation. DUH. all NTE does is bring the obvious home with evidence that its right around the corner due to feedback loops and exponential change. but really this is the only way it could possibly have ended. it really is the only way and (therefore) we are headed there now.
also, i have to say that certain “reformism” or at least palliative care for women by women makes more sense to me now, standing in this place, than it ever did before. while it would surely be a waste of time and energy to “lobby” for anything from men, particularly anything that will take years and decades to develop considering the circumstances (and would be a waste even without considering NTE) there is at least a precedent for believing that palliative care is appropriate at the end, much like hospice. its something to think about. is this what women have been doing all this time? where they doing effective palliative care before they got sucked into endless lobbying and begging for political crumbs for men? believe me, i am as surprised by this new development in my thinking as anyone.
this is one of those things i think i just subconsciously knew my entire life but was never allowed to expand upon. i saw some shitty little ~oppwessed gay disaybowed man~ on tumblr saying how able-bodied women “benefit” from medicine that “oppresses” disabled men. as if gynecology didn’t exist, as if women weren’t being exploited to care for men who should just be left to die and frankly should never have been born, as if the entire POINT of “medicine” wasn’t to strengthen weak males so they could better abuse and exploit women. what a piece of shit. at least he isn’t putting his penis inside women and whining about how it’s oppressive to him to be doing it (tangent: i HATE gay/bi d00ds whining about how their parents are mad they like sucking cock. buddy, women wouldn’t fuck you anyway. we’re glad you stay the hell away from us. even though they’re gay gay gay all they think about is fucking women but it’s different than how str8 boys do it apparently).
i really hope there’s a mass male die-off, i really, really do. the ultimate female palliative care would be to have 99.9% of males in the world die. imagine the freedom we’d have. imagine how much safer things would be. it wouldn’t even matter how long we had to live until the world died because few men would be around to hasten the process or interrupt our grieving.
this thought process makes me so, so, so ill. i hate men. hate hate hate hate HATE them, and there’s nobody in my immediate life i can say this too because ~da mens r oppwessed too~. my big fat disabled ASS men are oppressed. their comfort with speaking about how oppression directly impacts them in specific ways and getting paid and recognition and privileges to do so indicates that they are not oppressed in any fucking way. holy shit this is working me up.
You know, I felt some grim glee (schadenfreude) about the female infanticide in China and India when I first read about it – let them die out, if that is what they want! But then I read a book about it, and realized: They are not going to let this happen. They already abduct and rape womem from neighbouring countries. And the sad think is I don’t know what to do about this. Let’s hope they poison themselves with dioxine (makes males less likely to have sons, it seems), as men have already done all over the world.
If your feeling that the world is about to end is correct, we need to get as many women out of harm’s way as possible, and hand out popcorn to them as they watch men commit suicide. If Indian men want to die out, that is their problem, but I don’t want women to suffer in the process.
To danceexploits I just say: Ever looked at the birth statistics for the whole world? In best case scenario, there are 1.04 boys on every girl born in developed countries. In Germany, there is a whopping 1.07 boys born for every girl, even though male fetuses are more prone to spontaneous miscarriage – please explain to me how that is possible? I think there is a small, but not insignificant number of men who cause their female partner (prisoner) to miscarry by repeated beatings if they carry female fetuses, or even commit/ urge women to commit infanticide in that case, so the birth is never registered.
In southern countries where I assume there is less medical care (no abortions, either), there are less boys born per girl, probably because the bad living conditions make women miscarry male fetuses early, and there is no intervention to prevent miscarriage. However, men soon outnumber women. In Katar, the birth ratio is 1,02 boys per girl. At age 24, however, men outnumber women: 2,83 men for every woman. And it continues until men are 3,29 men on every woman!
There is a war on the female sex going on. And medicine saves more men than women – everything is tested on men. Built for men (airbags in cars are built for men!). Male physicians routinely infected women with puerperal fever (infection that causes death in childbirth), and when one man pointed out that, hey, more women died on the stations where the men went right after examinining the dead bodies of women who died in childbirth, they refused to wash their hands in disinfectant inbetween because they didn’t believe it was transmitted that way.
The most determined man-hater could not invent something like this, and yet, it did happen. Google “Semmelweis” if you don’t believe me.
Maybe they’re not doing it on purpose, exactly, but they sure as hell don’t care much about “accidentally” killing women, either.
Medicine is mostly needed by women to undo the harms of men, dance (PIV, poison food/air/water, direct physical abuse). And it offers another opportunity to get women under men’s control, via the medical establishment.
People in China are already wearing oxygen masks. And buying cans of fresh air.
FCM, your palliative care comment reminds me of the story about the beach full of stranded starfish, and a woman throwing them back, one by one. Because it matters to that starfish. And though I agree there is no saving us at this point, maybe that’s still something. Helping other women breathe easier, while we still can. Thank you for this. I’ve been struggling with what to do, what to do, and maybe this will get my hamster brain off of the wheel.
yes, i am still thinking about it, but preliminarily i would suggest making a distinction between palliative (hospice) type care and pointless reformism, and discarding reformism completely. then really parsing whether, and if so how, where, when and what type of palliative care is acceptable TO US, not only in medical “hospice” which we may not agree with to the extent its necrophilic/medicalized and controlled by men, but in the conditions we currently find ourselves. maybe this would only mean taking ourselves and the women we love to a quiet (quieter) place, for example, and nothing any more drastic than that (although any change will be hard enough). i do think it will be important not to jump to action just for the sake of doing something. we have discussed this before.
and it does kind of seem like small, localized “actions” are what we are talking about here, with women we know and love and little intervention from the outside — what hospice care mightve been before it was medicalized perhaps? it might be important to think about how long we have left since “the end” in terms of global human extinction is not just a few minutes, weeks or months — a protracted dying. i recently saw a prediction of 2-20 years, and the 2 years was based on the imminence of a huge methane release (i think?) which could happen literally at any time now, and then it would take a year for the methane to spread across the atmosphere globally. but 20 years, or 40, or 100 is a long time in human terms but is just the wrong number of years to be very actionable isnt it? because it might not happen TO US at all, or anytime soon (although there is evidence that it will indeed).
i do think it is beyond time for us to at least start paying attention, such as fucking NOTICING that people are already in fact wearing masks…and “unusual” and extreme weather events (like buffalo NY recently getting 10 feet of snow in 2 days or whatever). i am waiting to see what the causes were for the recently “disappeared” commercial airliners for example, and if one or both of them are weather related as i suspect, i will definitely make a note of it.
What are your thoughts on adoption of Chinese and Indian girls to the US or other places where female infanticide is not practiced on such a large scale?
The law makes this very difficult and expensive, but to the individual girl, it does matter. (Me, I have a snowball’s chance in hell of being approved for adopting a baby, but I am thinking about suggesting it to others)
Yes! Reformism is worse than pointless, just plays into men’s vampiric energy-suck. Tried for half an hour one day to explain this to a Democrat woman on my front porch, ended up just exhorting her to read Mary Daly. Come on starfish, head for the open water…
I ran across the hospice concept first on the Nature Bats Last site, and so was tempted to dismiss it out of hand. I agree with his science-based conclusions, but as a man he can’t possibly understand how to die properly or with dignity. Seems Carolyn Baker actually invented the hospice idea for that crew, though, so with that and what you’ve said here, will consider it again from this angle. I’m of the mind that at this point it’s much worse to do the wrong thing or waste my energy than it is to do nothing at all.
Expanding my garden (adding rue this year, for example) seems important. Doing more of the things I WANT to do seems important.
Please look to the stories/blogs/tumblrs written by young women who were adopted out to the US, sellmaeth. Many have had experiences ranging from less-than-favorable to disastrous. (If you go ahead, consider moving to a neighborhood where you are the minority, not them.)
@jojoupiter: I don’t live in the US, moving to a different neighborhood is not an option.
So, you don’t think adoption is a good idea? I mean, is being a racial minority worse than being a minority as woman? Hm. Well, I guess I could (if I ever get to a place where I can take care of another living being) adopt a girl from a country closer to mine. You don’t have to go very far from here to come to countries where people openly admit to not wanting to have daugthers. My initial impulse was to get Chinese and Indian girls the hell out of there, but those are not the only countries were women have it significantly worse than here. (Not that my home country is perfect in that respect, I do consider emigration as an option for the future, but as of yet, it is bearable.)
Ah, the freedom in accepting that men and their messes are totally out of your control. Nothing like it. No more guilt for not using up my days “fixing” things I didn’t destroy, and have no hopes of resolving. I am all for hospice for women, its the only type of action thats not a waste of time.
I find NTE liberating in the extreme, as would anyone that takes an honest look at the future and realizes they are wholly unprepared for dealing with it. I wasn’t looking forward to suffering, penniless, in old age, worrying about how men are killing my daughter. NTE puts an end to this, writ large.
I was anxious when I thought “OMG I gotta DO something!” Accepting defeat? Freeing. And there’s no cost to it, no down side, even if Im wrong. This is because the only changes Im making are positive ones, like focusing on/spending time with women and girls, and not putting effort into mens BS. It’s not like Im refusing to save for retirement now- I was never going to be able to do that anyway. If we all perish, then I didn’t waste life on reformism/ working to death for savings. If we don’t, I get to live without anxiety, and go on the same as I would have otherwise.
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As for producing more males, men have created a necrophilicly ingenious solution to guarantee more of themselves: they make life so horrible for women and girls, that moms willingly kill the daughters.
I never understood how a mom could kill her baby girls, until I had my very own daughter. Now I know that those moms don’t hate their girls, they love them. They are doing the one, and only, thing they can do to spare their babies from the hell that they themselves live in. They are truly powerless to do anything else, this is the sole way they can protect their girls.
And MEN love this, because they are men. Infanticide and aborting girls an easy problem to fix, if men wanted it fixed. But men like it this way, so it will never change.
I read one person speculate that with fewer women, they would become more valuable. That person obviously doesn’t realize what men are really all about. LOL, women won’t gain value. In reality, fewer local women increases trafficking, kidnapping, rape, and abuse. To think, women gaining value? Why, when men could simply rape and abuse more instead? Maybe even war amongst themselves for more rape victims. That’s the male way!
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Thanks for stopping back to write these last few posts. I really appreciate it.