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[–]toobiedoo 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (4子コメント)

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35 year old steroid user here. Athlete entire life thru university. Been around steroid use and abuse and legitimate clinical use. Every single thing this guy says is 100% legit. He is ultimately knowledgable about responsible use and warns against ABUSE. Furthermore, I can tell from reading his posts about the physical effects of steroids that he is educated and experienced on the subject.

[–]Isnackonveagans[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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Thank you very much. As you can see, it's hard explaining steroids to anyone who hasn't been around them or users. I appreciate your support. Somebody please give this guy some upvotes for the sake of a clean AMAA.

[–]Boutros-Boutros 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (9子コメント)

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Post proof. There have been several of these before that were/seemed extremely fake, where the ops knew basically nothing and was just trying to get people riled up. You refuse to post any details on your cycles and only speak in vague platitudes about things that anyone who has seen Bigger Faster Stronger would know, so I'm skeptical.

[–]Isnackonveagans[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (8子コメント)

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I'm just doing this for fellow redditors, it's not a PR campaign and it's a throwaway acct, no karma, so I don't really care if you believe me or not. I'm being vague bc as much as I love you guys, I will not indict myself, I'm sure you can understand that. However, you are right about not disclosing past cycles. I think I can safely do so.

I have used Testosterone, Anavar, primobolan, Trenbolan, and anadrol in my previous cycles (not all at once). My ancillaries and other drugs that support the cycles and keep side effects to a minimum include Clomid, Nolvadex, HCG, Arimidex, and ZMA.

There is not large amounts of hard data on steroid use in general (ask any doctor), so I only know what I have researched over the years, discussed with my doctor and other users, or have experienced myself. I recommend "Bigger, Faster, Stronger" because it is an easy way for people that aren't knowledgable to get over the taboo of steroids in order to actually do some of their own research. I am offering what I know and what I have experienced, I am no expert, but I will share what knowledge I have.

[–]missaligned 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

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Wow... Clomid? The fertility drug used typically to help females is one I would have never guessed. Thanks or the AMA. This is very informative.

[–]Isnackonveagans[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

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Yeah, it's kind of the standard for post-cycle therapy, the time after your cycle that you need to kick your production back to normal and reduce estrogen levels. Either that or Nolva.

[–]aazav 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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Check out my comment on L-aspartic.

[–]aazav 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

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Any gyno yet? You're still a little young, but it might happen in your 40s.

FYI, HCG is awesome.

What's the Clomid for?

[–]Isnackonveagans[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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I use an aromatase inhibitor called arimidex, it keeps the testosterone from converting to large amounts of estrogen, which would be responsible for the gyno.

Yes, HCG is fantastic.

Clomid is the standard for use in Post Cycle therapy. It blocks estrogen and kick starts your natural production, to bring you back to baseline in means of testosterone.

[–][deleted] 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

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A friend of mine injected me and gave me oral steroids before a 4 month camping trip. after about 5 days and having forgotten about it I found that I was chopping wood for so long that my calouses had completely ripped off. Hiking up hills no longer felt tiring. It worked great for about a week and a half and I enjoyed it.

[–]Isnackonveagans[S] 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (1子コメント)

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Interesting story. I wouldn't recommend the above to anyone. Sidenote: Avoid most oral steroids, those things kill you.

[–]Unleash_The_Dragon 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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I don't see why you would be downvoted? It's all legitimate information.

Oral steroids are highly toxic to your liver as they are made to pass through the stomachs acidic environment (17aa i think it is?) and steroids as a pump up thing is a bad idea - they are a tool in addition to an already long lasting and intense diet and exercise regime, not a pre-trip pump up as was originally described. Doing it that way is highly irresponsible.

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    [–][deleted] 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (22子コメント)

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    i think the laws are in place more because of professional athletes...

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      [–]sungrazer 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

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      Right, the same reason why you need a prescription to buy alcohol.

      [–][deleted] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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      Or meth.

      [–]inquirer 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

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      which is stupid. who gives a shit if professional athletes want to use it? Good grief

      [–]aazav 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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      The part where they do so much to cause damage to themselves.

      [–][deleted] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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      ... that abuse steroids.

      [–]LegioXIV 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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      Maybe you should direct a little bit of your ire towards your representatives that decided to schedule steroids and protect you with the nanny state instead of this guy. His behavior has nothing to do with why you cant score some androgel on a regular basis.

      [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 17 ポイント18 ポイント * (27子コメント)

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      My father is also on TRT, like you, legally. He uses a compound pharmacy with no problems whatsoever, I'd recommend that for your shortage problem, your doc can even fax the Rx. It is the government keeping steroids at that level of illegality, write your congressman. I would also suggest that you watch a documentary called "Bigger, Faster, Stronger", it will clear up your blame game. C'mon guy, do recreational pot-users make it harder for patients to use pot for their glaucoma? Nah, it's just gov't ignorance.

      [–][deleted] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (24子コメント)

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      Does your dad know that you use the stuff?

      [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (23子コメント)

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      Yes, he does. He doesn't love the idea, but he understands that they are not as dangerous as made out to be and just wants me to be responsible. Why do you ask?

      [–]DutchPrisoner -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (22子コメント)

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      One of the steroid users in the film you cite "Bigger, Faster, Stronger" ends up dying young. I'm pretty sure steroids have also been a problem/contributing factor for a lot of pro wrestlers who have used them and died young.

      I think your view that the side effects now are small is missing a larger point, which is that you've become dependent on a drug that is not regulated and in some ways dangerous. I'm not going to be an alarmist and say that I know that you're harming yourself seriously right now, but in the long run you are drug dependent, you have no idea how you'll handle this as you age, and you're increasing the chances that you'll die a young death.

      [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (21子コメント)

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      Dependent? One only becomes dependent on supplemental testosterone if they shut-down their own endocrine system from abuse. My testosterone levels (I get tested quarterly) are what a normal man my age should be at because of responsible use.

      Also, not one person has died directly due to from steroids. There are people that have died from mixing steroids with other drugs (like anti-depressants, pain killers, etc) which is what most wrestlers need to take to deal with all of the bodily injury that they deal with.

      [–]LegioXIV 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (15子コメント)

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      Eh, keep in mind that chronic steroid abuse can lead to enlargement of the heart. This can and has culminated in infarcs and death.

      Some of the oral compounds are toxic enough to cause liver failure as well.

      [–][deleted] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

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      Serious question: what's ball-cancer like?

      [–][deleted] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

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      Well - it's not necessarily as bad as all other cancers. It's survivable, one of the easiest to treat. But it still sucks a LOT. It's like getting hit by a small car versus being hit by a truck, if that makes sense. My biggest problems were depression, anxiety, and difficulty managing my hormones - which led to more depression and anxiety.

      Happy to explain further.

      [–][deleted] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

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      Interesting. So, did you have like a tumor or something? Are you fertile? Did your balls hurt constantly?

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        [–][deleted] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        That sounds really bad, dude. I'm glad you got through it alright. I could like, feel my balls hurtinh as I read that. You (literally) have more balls than I do aha. Really interesting, perhaps you should do an AMA.

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        that is suuuch a bummer, especially considering the crazy availability of narcotic prescription drugs (see pain clinics in florida)

        [–]aazav 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        It really might be worth it to go to Mexico and bring some back.

        And there are sources in Florida, but that will be expensive.

        [–]rocconyew 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (6子コメント)

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        What is your reasoning for using steroids? Personal Vanity? Fitness Competition? Sports?

        And would you be willing to post before/after photos?

        [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (5子コメント)

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        1. Vanity mostly, I like looking muscular, I like being fit.

        2. As I do this for vanity, I have to control myself and not become a narcissist. I hate people that take pictures of themselves bc I think it's super shallow and narcissistic. One of my big rules is not taking pictures of myself even for personal record. I know this seems to discredit me, but I don't really care, just wanted to help inform some fellow redditors.

        [–]rocconyew 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

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        What profession are you in that allows you copious amounts of time to devote to the gym? Also, mind sharing what your degrees are in?

        [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

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        I'm a 9-5er. I'm a young, single guy with no kids. I have two hours per day to spend in the gym.

        [–]Papper 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

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        I like my personality as does my gf.

        I'm a young, single guy with no kids.

        Which is it?

        [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        oops, yeah, I just meant not married. Single, like you would see on a w-2

        [–]dogsareawezum 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        yet here you are.

        [–]Say_what_you_see 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (7子コメント)

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        Okay i got to step in and thank the OP and aplogise for these people slating you. I go to the gym 4 times a week, im 6ft, iv gone from 65kgs to 88kgs in about 2-3 years. I do it with a good diet and im happy. i dont feel the need to take roids as i dont have enough time to make them work/dont want to risk my health.

        Heres my point.... CHEATING? WTF?

        Your going to THE GYM, is you pumping iron cheating because your bigger than those that dont? Is eating rite cheating because you choose to eat better than your friends? Is shakes etc cheating because its powder form and not a fucking chicken ?

        SO WHAT ITS HIS BODY, people go out and do pills because alcohol is not good enough for them (not me) but still .... so what. I'm happy in my day to day life but people feel the need to smoke/smoke weed SO WHAT?!

        Why are you hating on this guy because hes answering your questions, the biggest guys at the gym are always the nicest as what you DONT understand is that to get past a certain size you have to be so fucking clued up.

        Im not sorry for the bad grammar go fuck yourselfs. Such bad attitudes.

        [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (4子コメント)

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        Thanks brother, I know doing an AMA is a self-esteem death-wish, but I knew what I was getting into and they've been nicer than expected. Thanks for the support.

        You're right about the biggest guys. People have no idea that SO many people use steroids and they would be shocked to find out who.

        [–]Say_what_you_see 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

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        they are the most helpful, kindest, educated people in the building. Good luck and i wish you all the best in becoming what you feel is perfection. Maybe one day ill get to mine!

        [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        Thanks Brother. We're all working towards perfection, different strokes.

        [–]aazav 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

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        Generally it is the bigger guys. Because they are bigger.

        [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        It can even be just the really shredded guys. Some guys use only steroids that grow very hard defined muscle but not a lot of mass. These steroids are ones like anavar, winny, primobolan, etc.

        [–]UncleMatthew 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (19子コメント)

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        Nut shrinkage?

        [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (17子コメント)

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        I've never had nut shrinkage.

        Nut shrinkage comes from your body's response to excess testosterone in the body. Your body recognizes that there's enough in the bloodstream, so it stops production, shrinking your testicles (they come back when your cycle ends, usually 10-12 weeks).

        However, there's a super safe drug called HCG (women use it for fertility and sometimes dieting) that you can take while on the steroids that keep your nuts producing, so they will stay their regular size. I use HCG on every cycle and I haven't had any noticeable shrinkage ever.

        [–]Petiole 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (4子コメント)

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        Haha, if you took a pregnancy test, you would read positive!

        [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (3子コメント)

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        I tried it once, but accidentally peed on my ipod shuffle.

        [–]monsefaeN 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (2子コメント)

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        • Multiple degrees and a high IQ, so I'm not a beefcake idiot.

        [–]toutman 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        [–]ShamwowTseDung 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        [–]UncleMatthew 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

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        Cool, thanks. Ever read the book "Muscle: Confessions of an Unlikely Bodybuilder"? By Sam Fussell...I think you'd like it.

        [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        Heard of it, havent read it. I'll put it on my list. Thanks for the rec.

        [–][deleted] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

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        Do you use only hcg or do you add nolvadex also? i'd like to pm you with some questions eventually..

        [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        I use Arimidex on cycle, nolva in case of gyno, and hcg on cycle and right before PCT of clomid and nolva.

        [–]pilinisi 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (7子コメント)

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        Quick question: if I used an AI and HCG would it naturally boost my testosterone levels?

        [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (5子コメント)

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        Yes and no. If your body is already producing at its max, then it wouldn't likely do much, just increase a little. If your body is not producing enough T, it will likely help you a lot. Many times an AI by itself is enough to being you back to a good baseline.

        [–]DidIGetThatRight 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

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        Out of curiosity what is AI?

        [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

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        Aromatase Inhibitor

        some steroids are converted into estrogen by your nuts. Males need a small amount of estrogen in their bodies for normal function, our bodies don't create estrogen, it just converts it from testosterone. So, when you put large amounts of testosterone into your body, it ultimately converts a large amount into estrogen (too much). This can cause emotional problems, gynecomastia (bitch tits), and other problems. A user will take an AI Aromatase Inhibitor during a cycle to stop conversion into estrogen and maintain normal levels. Some people don't need it, but it's usually a good idea. I use it every time. Arimidex, aromasin, or letrozole are the common choices.

        [–]DidIGetThatRight 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        Thanks, I found that comment later on but figured I wouldn't delete my post.

        Cheers!

        [–]pilinisi 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

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        Would I see any repercussions from just using an AI on its own for 8-10 weeks (sans steroid use)?

        [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        Likely not, assuming you didn't exceed 2mg per week. The only risk you run is pushing your estrogen too low and feeling like a non-sexual, depressing sack of shit.

        What's most likely is that nothing will happen and you'll have wasted your money. If you think your T is low, go to your doctor and say that, he can run a blood test for you.

        [–]aazav 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        HCG doesn't. Check out L-Aspartic Acid. Either that or you'll be injecting it into your butt.

        [–]aazav 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        It happens. This is why you cycle, so the 'nads can fire up again.

        [–]what_wizardry 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (8子コメント)

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        Are you using aromatase-blockers as well?

        [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (7子コメント)

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        Aromatase Inhibitors are VERY important in some steroid cycles.

        [–]robo23 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (6子コメント)

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        Do you know why, or was that not covered in your nutrition program?

        [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (4子コメント)

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        Haha, the reason is that some steroids are converted into estrogen by your nuts. Males need a small amount of estrogen in their bodies for normal function, our bodies don't create estrogen, it just converts it from test. So, when you put large amounts of testosterone into your body, it ultimately converts a large amount into estrogen (too much). This can cause emotional problems, gynecomastia (bitch tits), and other problems. A user will take an AI Aromatase Inhibitor during a cycle to stop conversion into estrogen and maintain normal levels. Some people don't need it, but it's usually a good idea. I use it every time. Arimidex, aromasin, or letrozole are the common choices.

        [–]superdude885 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

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        Do you think you would have been able to reach the same goals for your body without the use of steroids?

        Also can you just give me some general tips? I'm about 5'8" and 165lbs. I currently go to the gym a few days a week. I have been doing various exercises for my chest/back/arms etc. My arms/chest have been getting pretty toned but I just can't get rid of the flab around my belly and sides. I'm not trying to get big at all, I just want to tone down and lose the fat. Should I just minimize the weights and crank up the cardio? What exercises do you recommend and any meal plan ideas?

        [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        I possibly could have, it'd be tough, though at some point, you're fighting genetics.

        A 6-pack is carved with a spoon and a fork, brother. Eat clean, fresh foods, slow carbs, and get at least 1g of protein per # of body weight. 5-6 meals a day. If you want to bulk, eat 300 calories above what your body needs. If you wanna cut, eat -300 cal.

        If you want to get shredded, but maintain muscle, dont exceed 30 mins a day of cardio and keep it to 3-4 times a week. Bodybuilding.com has some good articles on diet, but don't get too deep in that site, lotta bro science.

        [–]aazav 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        Eat like a pig, then more so. You'll grow.

        Measure those calories. That's what matters. 3000+ a day.

        [–]nunes92 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        tnation.com brother

        [–]husker16 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (5子コメント)

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        This AMA reminded me of this video...http://youtu.be/N3x98hJWapw

        So what DO you bench?

        [–]TCO222 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

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        [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        There are some good messages here. "you never enjoy it when you're in it, because you don't see yourself for how you really are." Very true. Yes, any body modification is a slippery slope, one just must have self-control and self-respect to do it properly. That's the difference between a fit, toned girl (or guy r/mensrights) and an anorexic.

        [–]jasiones 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

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        how does one even acquire steroids if they dont have any connections what so ever? not that i want to use I'm just curious

        [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        Make friends with the meat heads at the gym, they know.

        [–]specialproject 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (9子コメント)

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        I have been interested in using steroids. I kinda went through various weight loss and gains. Starting 7 years ago I went from 180>145>160/170>225 and am currently at about 205-208. I am 5'10" and I don't consider myself extremely overweight, I have a minor build under my fat (I use to lift weights, was never cut like an athlete but had some minor tone) but I'm still unhappy with my weight/look. I wouldn't mind being built or skinny, I just want this fat gone and have limited time to work out due to a full time job and school. Would you recommend steroids to someone in my position to help lose fat quickly? I had heard there was a type of steroid that doesn't bulk you up as much, and mostly just burns fat quicker, is there something like that?

        [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (8子コメント)

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        Absolutely not. You should have a strict workout regimen and perfect diet along with being close to your genetic maximum capabilities before trying gear. First and foremost, get your diet in check. I know you hate hearing that, but steroids actually cannot burn fat, no matter what anyone says, that is proven. There ARE steroids that work in tandem very effectively with a cutting diet and workout routine, but they dont burn fat, they just keep muscle on you while to cut. If you want to turn to drugs for fat burning, ECA stacks are common. Ephedrine, caffeine, and aspirin. I dont like it bc it makes me feel shitty, but it works for some. If you're really out of control, talk to a weight loss clinic, there are a few options for medications that help with appetite e.g. adderall.

        [–]specialproject 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (7子コメント)

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        My main thought behind it would be increasing muscle and metabolism to increase fat burn. So do you think if I met the requirements on a diet and workout routine that I would lose fat? Or would it just add muscle initially and start adding muscle behind my fat first? I'm sure in the long run it would, but if I decided to start using I think it would only be one cycle. I could probably fit in a regular workout and diet, but my issue is motivation. I use to spend about 2 hours at the gym 5 days a week when I recently hit about 180, dropped to about 175 but had lowered my BMI and overall inches so I knew that though only 5lbs were lost, I was gaining muscle. This was through dieting and a routine that my trainer put me on, but after a while it became too much to spend almost 2 hours at the gym and trying to balance a personal life. So I guess my next question would be, what type of results do you think I would see if I could get into a 1 hour or so 5-6 days a week routine using steroids for about a month?

        [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (6子コメント)

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        Hey man, please for the sake of your health and sanity, pump the brakes for a second.

        Steroids would just add muscle behind your fat, not help you get rid of the fat, even if it did ultimately raise your resting metabolic rate, you'd have to eat more to keep the muscle, therefore making it all worthless.

        READ THIS CAREFULLY: Steroids are not for motivation. One needs to be motivated to get any benefit from steroids. Also, you cannot make any worthwhile gains from a month-long steroid cycle.

        A minimum cycle is 8 weeks and that's if you're using short ester test and you'd have to stick yourself every other day. It sounds like you need to get other parts of your life in order before you even consider these types of drugs. If you can't get motivated to keep a regular diet or gym routine for longer than one year, then you're in no way ready for steroids. Not to mention that steroids are not really the right tool for what you're trying to do. It sounds like you are strong underneath your fat and you just want to lose your fat. Steroids do not promote fat loss at all. 1 cup of coffee per day burns more fat than steroids can.

        If you get into the gym 5 days a week with a solid routine and fix your diet, you can lose up to 4 pounds of fat per week. You could also put on 5 pounds of muscle in no time. But look man, I get it, when you take a workout drug or supplement, you feel obligated to get in the gym, I get that! So get yourself some protein, some creatine, and a stimulant rich pre-workout supplement like Jack3d or NOxplode, clean up your diet, hit the gym with cardio 3 times a week and you'll melt, I promise. Tell you what, I'll make you a deal. If you can prove to me that you've dropped 15 pounds in the next 2 months, I will personally help you with research and designing a theoretical cycle for the future. k?

        [–]specialproject 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

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        Thanks for the feedback and advice. I was not planning on using steroids yet, it was something that came up about 6 months ago and the thought still retained in my head. A routine diet, or what most would consider is hard for me. I currently work a 2nd shift job where I wake up at about 11:30am-12:30pm (depending on how tired I am) and work from 2pm-11pm. I use to eat 2 meals a day, first was on my lunch break at work at about 6pm and then another around midnight. I usually stay up until 4-5am so my schedule is by no means "normal". I dropped from 225 to the current 205 by cutting out my 2nd late night meal and stopped drinking so much soda (I'll usually have one at work, but I drink diet now). I drink a lot of water, and for my late night hunger I just snack on almonds. I don't like the feeling that I'm starving myself after work, but eating late at night seems to not work out for me anymore. I just turned 25 2 days ago and realize my body isn't running like it use to. I use to stuff my face at night, eating out at our favorite 24 hour sit down diner and still stay at my 160lb and same of when I was at 145lbs.

        [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

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        [–]specialproject 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

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        Damn, that's a lot. Well I think at this point I'd just like to lose weight. I'm not trying to bulk up specifically, just not happy with my looks. I might try the ECA stack and try to get my lazy ass back to the gym. It was a lot easier when I was younger living at home with my parents and could just walk downstairs to do some free weight lifting. Thanks again for all of the info!

        [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

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        Happy to help! Good luck in training. You'll get your sexy back, you just gotta want it.

        [–]specialproject 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

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        What would you recommend for doing the ECA stack? Should I buy the ECA supplements, or buy each individually? And where would you recommend buying them?

        [–]CapnSheff 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

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        Did it effect your dick?

        [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

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        No effect on the dick, just the drive. I got hornier on cycle, less horny coming off cycle, normal two weeks after cycle ended.

        [–]CapnSheff 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

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        So basically should I take it if I wanna bulk fast?

        -Also upvoted, thanks for answer

        [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        I dont advocate taking steroids. I just advocate responsible use if you decide to do so. You need to have a lot of things in place before taking steroids. You dont want to take them just bc you want to bulk fast. If fast is even your vocabulary, then you need to bulk naturally for a while before using gear. I only use steroids bc I reached close to my genetic peak and couldn't get bigger naturally. I didnt use them to bulk fast, I use them to bulk.

        [–]tabledresser 1 ポイント2 ポイント * (0子コメント)

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        Questions Answers
        Hi - I'm a 35 year old survivor of testicular cancer, and I use Androgel every day in order to maintain a testosterone balance that's normal for me. It's really difficult for me to get it legally, as it's classified as a controlled substance in New York City. That's because people like you abuse it so readily. When I run out, I can't get more easily. I have to get my doctor to write a prescription and manually deliver it to the pharmacy. If it's a holiday weekend, I have to go without for several days. If I don't put the stuff on daily, I get lethargic, depressed, gain weight, feel like I'm wrapped in a wet blanket. I'm not allowed to have extra at home to pad for emergencies - like when we evacuated before a hurricane. If I'm out of town, it's really difficult to get a pharmacist in a new area to fill the prescription. I'm 6'2", 240, fairly muscular. But not like, gay bartender muscular. Whenever I go in to get a refill, a new pharmacist looks at me and thinks "sure you need this, pal." My insurance company tries to deny me for this. And when my doctor adjusts my dosage, my insurance blocks the sale until the doctor and pharmacist and insurance rep have a conference call about it. So here's my question: are you aware on any level that people like you make life a lot harder for people like me who actually need these drugs? Is this something that you never considered before, or have you thought about this carefully, and decided that your sweet biceps or whatever are more important than my day-to-day health? My father is also on TRT, like you, legally. He uses a compound pharmacy with no problems whatsoever, I'd recommend that for your shortage problem, your doc can even fax the Rx. It is the government keeping steroids at that level of illegality, write your congressman. I would also suggest that you watch a documentary called "Bigger, Faster, Stronger", it will clear up your blame game. C'mon guy, do recreational pot-users make it harder for patients to use pot for their glaucoma? Nah, it's just gov't ignorance.
        Does your dad know that you use the stuff? Yes, he does. He doesn't love the idea, but he understands that they are not as dangerous as made out to be and just wants me to be responsible. Why do you ask?

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        [–]pluesha 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

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        Do you ever feel you're cheating your way to the top?

        What's the point in using them anyway, it's not like everyone else doesn't know?

        [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        Steroids aren't miracle drugs. One must still work VERY hard to put on muscle and stay ripped, so no, I don't feel like I'm cheating. Also, I reached my genetic maximum before I started steroids, so the results I'm getting now is all bonus. It's like not using cheat codes until after you've beaten the game.

        No, no one knows, they just think I love working out. I've always been pretty big, so it's never been questioned.

        [–]ghodrick 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

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        May I, for the sake of health of anyone reading this thread, point out that my bullshit-meter detects an awful lot of broscience?

        [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        As mentioned in other threads, there is very little hard data on steroid use bc it is considered such a dangerous drug and few studies are done. I do my best to keep up with the science and trends behind steroid use and best practices. If you find anything to be inaccurate, please point it out, I'm excited to learn more and happy this can be a two-way street. I am offering what I have learned over the years in research on the web, medical journals, from anti-aging clinics as well as from my doctor and personal experience.

        [–]withadoubleu 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (12子コメント)

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        What are the side effects you are having? Are you using prescription or off-the-street steroids? Do you recommend what you do to everyone?

        [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (11子コメント)

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        1. The only negative side effects I've ever had was a little oilier skin and a touch of acne. I use acne body wash and facewash, so that takes care of that. When I cycle off the steroids (cycles usually are 8-12 weeks), I feel a little lethargic and tired, but I'm back to normal in a week or two. Side effects are dependent on which steroids you use, dosage, and if you're prone to things like acne, balding etc. If you are responsible and do your research, you can avoid most side effects.

        2. Most Steroids are made in underground labs either here or overseas. It's important to have a good source, after all, you're putting this shit in your body.

        3. I do not recommend what I do to everyone, especially those under 24 years old. There are ways to responsibly use steroids. It takes years of training, a perfect diet, and intense research before steroids can be effective. It's not an instant muscle drug, you must work for everything you do.

        [–]Dystopeuh 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (10子コメント)

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        Regarding #3: you say you don't recommend it to those under 24... you're 25. How long have you been using it? And why not for anyone under 24?

        [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        I've been using steroids for three years. I jumped the gun a bit. from ages 12-23, your body is chock-full of steroids and you can get steroidal results w/o the drug. Also, if you take steroids when still developing, you risk ruining your endocrine system for life. You would be on 'steroids' until you die, just to feel normal. That's steroid abuse and irresponsible and it's very real.

        [–]nadrojcote 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (8子コメント)

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        he shouldnt even be doing it, you shouldnt do it under the age of 25

        [–]Dystopeuh 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (6子コメント)

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        That sounds just as arbitrary as "Don't do it under 24." There's no magic number for development.

        [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

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        You're both right. The older the better, but it is somewhat arbitrary. 24 is bare minimum, I know some young guys that ruined their lives running a cycle too early.

        [–]nadrojcote 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

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        Ya its true, the general rule of thumb is 25 though. But most people when doing it at a young age do not use proper AI's or PCT, this can make it even worse for them. Also I stick by my theory that orals are one of the worst things you can put in your body. Anadrol and Dbol are horrible for you and I have a couple friends with fucked up livers from them. Cant drink alcohol and their iron levels are through the roof.

        [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        Absolutely, I tried anadrol and immediately stopped, that shit was terrible feeling. I can't imagine not being able to drink for life.

        [–]aazav 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        Points for knowing 25.

        [–]aazav 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        shouldn't*

        [–][deleted] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

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        How much have your lifts gone up since starting to use steroids? Is is appreciable faster than without steroids?

        [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        Depending on which steroids you're using, your strength goes way up while you're on cycle (8-12 weeks usually). Your muscles are holding more nitrogen and you all have the willpower and energy to lift more. When you cycle off (stop taking them), your lift maxes go down, but you're definitely stronger than before the cycle.

        [–]ghodrick 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

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        You say you hold multiple degrees and have a high IQ, but in your username you spell vegans wrong?

        [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        Yeah, I was rushing and totally spelled it wrong. Thanks for the heads-up.

        [–][deleted] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (6子コメント)

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        Where do you by them? How do most people get them? How fast can you put muscle on using them?

        [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (5子コメント)

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        1. I'm by them in the bathroom.
        2. Illegally, mostly the way you would buy any other illicit substance, know people.
        3. It's not really about fast, it's about quality. But, to answer your question, some steroids work as fast as 4 weeks. An agressive steroid cycle can put as much as 20 pounds of muscle on you in 8 weeks, but you risk health doing that. A proper cycle does 10-15 solid punds in 2 months, some of which is water.

        [–]supson6437 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        weird, I put on 20 pounds of muscle in 2.5 months once without steroids. Maybe it was cause I started from scratch

        [–]vese 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

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        You're very similar to me but I don't use steroids..

        233.6lbs 6'4 13%BF

        Working on that first degree right now.

        My only question is would you recommend steroids to someone you care about? A close friend or something of that sort.

        [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

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        Good luck in school brother. The mind will always be stronger than the body.

        Yes, but I would make sure that they are of age, do their research, and know what they're getting into. The risk is large, no matter how you slice it.

        [–]vese 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

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        I feel like this applies to so many drugs but people are just ignorant, even "hard" drugs are fine in moderation, but I'll leave that talk for /r/drugs.

        [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        yes, it's easiest to believe what you have been fed.

        [–]Metzky 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

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        How long have you been taking steroids?

        I'm more interested in the diet side because that's what i struggle with most in weightlifting. I'm trying to get stronger for sports but being in college i don't really follow a meal plan except for what's in the college cafeteria. I am interested in starting to cook for myself though. What does your diet look like? or is there any place(website) to find diets for a budget?

        [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        2 years on and off. I keep paleo as much as possible with the exception of dairy. Other diet tips in this comment.

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          [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

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          As said before, I wont indict myself. Steroids are a big no no to the gov't, and I would prefer to keep my freedom, I'm sure you get that. It's ok if you don't believe me, I don't have any motive for doing this other than to share my experiences.

          My side effects have included: Oily skin, mild acne (can be cleared up with acne soap), super boners, sleeplessness, and fatigue.

          [–]TONYT531 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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          Super boners? 97% of Reddit is on a cycle.

          [–]nightymelon 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

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          If it's absolutely confidential, then why don't you msg proof to the r/iama mods?

          [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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          Just did, thanks!

          [–]corbomide 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

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          Can we see a picture of your body from the front and back? Hide your face if you want.

          [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

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          I would like to, but I work very hard at keeping my image issues at bay and have a strict no-picture policy, even for myself. It's important with drugs like these to not to become one of those 'never-satisfied, cripplingly narcissistic bodybuilder types, because you'll end up abusing. See this comment for more

          [–]blackazndude 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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          But we want to see your ripped abs bro

          [–]salgat 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

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          My biggest fear of roids is that it enhances balding. Since most men start to have some form of hair recession starting in their 30s, this freaks me out. Do you mind the chance?

          [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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          Ah yes, one of my biggest worries too. Balding runs in my family and I was concerned about losing some hair. I try to avoid steroids that are DHT derivatives like masteron, those are the ones that will be the riskiest. DHT is the cause of balding. Some steroids like Testosterone convert to DHT and can take your hair too. I haven't had any balding yet, but that doesn't mean it's not possible. I keep propecia (DHT blocker for balding) on-hand in case, but so far, I haven't had any problems. It's just a risk thats all part of the steroid choice.

          [–]Vikurai 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (7子コメント)

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          I have had an interest in steroids for a bit and I was wondering what are the side effects of some oral steroids (like d-bol as this is what i was looking into) as opposed to injected steroids?

          [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (6子コメント)

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          Just don't. Most orals are 17aa compounds and really hurt your liver. Basically your liver filters out half of the steroids before it gets to your bloodstream, meaning orals have to be dosed doubly as strong just to get through. Thats taxing on your liver and if you have a drink or liver taxing medicine like aleve, your liver is just getting dry raped. There are a few that aren't liver toxic, but they're not usually good steroids on their own. IMO all cycles should have a base of testosterone (only injectable). It sounds like you need to do a bit more research, so I'm glad you reached out.

          [–]Vikurai 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

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          Thanks for the reply, and yes I do im just trying to find as much information as I can before I do anything. Thanks again for the information.

          [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

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          Pleasure was mine.

          [–]Vikurai 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

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          Also do you stack with hgh? What supps do use as well?

          [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

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          HGH doesn't do much for guys my age. It can work in large doses at my age, but it's not recommended. Also, HGH is VERY expensive. I don't know too much about it, but my father takes it as part of his TRT and it even helps him with other chronic problems.

          My supplements other than gear are protein -whey and casein, NO, Creatine, BCAAs, EFAs, Multi-vit, kombucha, waxy maize dextrose, ZMA

          [–]Vikurai 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

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          Solid, I didnt know that. Looks like im stacking supplements right than, thanks for the reassurance and are you planning on competing?

          [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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          No problem. I am definitely not planning on competing. I try very hard to not obsess over how others view me. I think it's important that my training and steroid use are for me only. Narcissism is a slippery slope and I need to be careful, bc that can lead to abuse.

          [–]34quarts 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

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          Great AMA!!! I been making gear for 3 years now. Is you gear home brewed or lab?

          [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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          Very cool, I've never made any, nor do I plan to, but sounds fun. Lab.

          [–]lets_discuss_butts 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

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          Can you help me score some?

          [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

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          No, I cannot. You can probably find some if you try hard enough, but DO YOUR RESEARCH FIRST.

          [–]lets_discuss_butts 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

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          How do I find it?

          [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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          I know not to feed the trolls. If you really have no idea, than you shouldn't be using anyways, it shows your lack of research.

          [–]megacurtains 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

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          Hey man, I don't really care about blah steroids are bad or blah steroids are good, I don't know enough to form an opinion. I do know a bit about lifting and gains etc though. I'm pretty sure if your diet is as good as you say it is, and you're working out as often as you are, you simply don't need the steroids to achieve what you're looking for. You said yourself you're not interested in increasing strength to the point of ridiculous or anything like that.

          Tl;dr- if it's just for aesthetics, why bother?

          [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

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          My genetics will not allow me to get as big and ripped as I prefer to be. Your body is constantly trying to become the most efficient machine possible, which a lot of the time not allowing you to grow beyond a certain point and if so, in tiny increments. It is for aesthetics, which I value. I lifted and ate right for years before trying steroids.

          [–]megacurtains 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

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          Fair enough I guess, I'm just surprised you need them. I'm 18 though so I'm speaking from that context. If you're really going for aesthetics shouldn't you cut body fat some more? 11 is great but it's not 8... :P

          [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

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          Enjoy your levels now at 18, hit the gym and EAT, you'll see great results, naturally. I wouldn't mind being at 8 vs 11. However 11 on someone that's 6'3" vs 11 on someone that's 5'8" is pretty different. 11 looks pretty good on me. Take in mind that what it takes diet-wise to get from 14 to 11 is NOT the same as what it takes to go from 11 to 8. Your body needs bodyfat to function and is always trying to keep some on you, it's a struggle to force your body down to that low. I could do 8, but I would have to work twice as hard, be cold all the time, sick more often, etc. I'm happy with 11 as I can still cheat with food every now and then.

          [–]megacurtains 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

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          Fair points :)

          [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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          Also, I missed one of your questions, 'If for aesthetics, why not just cut more fat?' answer: Because I wanna look like a lumberjack, not an abercrombie model.

          [–]misselizabethv 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

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          My Fiance uses oral steroids, he did not consume enough liquids during a work out one day and the additional muscle breakdown caused by the steroids and excessive weight training, clogged his kidneys and caused him to contract rhabdomyolysis and he almost died of kidney failure, he spent almost a week in hospital and had liquid injections directly into his kidneys through his back.

          Have you ever had any negative issues from your usage?

          [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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          Wow, that's vicious, I'm so sorry to hear about that. I have never experienced anything like that, but I've heard of liver and kidney failure from oral steroids. Kidney damage is possible on injectable steroids, but far less likely. Hydration is SO KEY when taking steroids, which is where hubby went wrong. Long story short, do not use oral steroids that are highly toxic, injectable steroids are so much safer, but people dont like sticking themselves, understandably -- and ALWAYS hydrate before you dominate.

          [–]johncer 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

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          So here is my ignorant question.

          Can someone meet halfway with steroids? Like take a less potent steroid that will give you better results than normal supplements like creatine, but with no side effects?

          Also, what would happen if u take say 25% of the normal dose?

          [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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          Not really, either way, you'll be shutting down natural production, so if you do, you might as well run a regular dose. Does that make sense? It's like saying, I want to clear that whole field of grass, but then only plant two rows of plants. If you're clearing the field, plant the right number of rows to get a return on your investment. Obviously, it works the same way the other direction, if you plant too much crap, you land is destroyed and your crop sucks.

          25% of normal dose is natural production, thats like taking no steroids, but you're still shutting down production.

          [–][deleted] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (7子コメント)

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          I will be starting TRT soon to hopefully fix multiple health problems stemming from low testosterone. Really hoping it works.

          [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (6子コメント)

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          TRT is such a great thing for people suffering. My father went on TRT a while back and it changed his life. I am in full support of TRT. Good luck and stay strong.

          [–][deleted] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

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          Thank you, bud! I just got a 200 mg injection. I hope it works!!!

          [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

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          One injection will do nothing and I hope there is context for this comment. Please spend a few months researching before shooting anything into yourself. Are you on TRT or just running a cycle? DO you have an AI to combat estrogen sides? how about PCT lined up? Are you using HCG to keep your testicles functioning? How many mgs are you pinning per week? How long is your cycle? How long is your PCT? Which ester are you using?

          [–][deleted] 0 ポイント1 ポイント * (3子コメント)

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          A doctor is overseeing all of this. He started me on 200 mg injections for four weeks with a weekly shot, then we're going to review where I am at and go from there.

          He mentioned HCG, anti-estrogen stuff, and so forth after this trial month. For now, he is just giving straight test shots.

          Anything I should bring up to him next time I see him!? Thanks!!!!!

          [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

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          Ah great! You're trying TRT. TRT is great for some people. As mentioned in other comments, my father has been on TRT for over 10 years and loves it! The fact that he mentioned AI and HCG shows you have a knowledgable doc. You're lucky. With any supplemental testosterone, there will be estrogen conversion, I would ask him about an Aromatase Inhibitor to keep your estrogen at normal levels. Also, one can use small amounts of HCG while taking supplemental testosterone to keep your testicles producing and you can avoid things like sterility.

          [–][deleted] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

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          Thank you, sir! I appreciate the advice. I will speak with him regarding AI and HCG when I see him again next month, but he already indicated that he was interested in doing that. I wish I had asked when I had a chance, but I suppose he is just using this month as a way to gauge how I respond to just testosterone replacement.

          I am really desperate to have my health problems fixed. While I would never commit suicide, I have really begun having a lot of suicidal thoughts over the last year stemming from some of my difficulties.

          [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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          You've made a good first step! I've known a few people who were really depressed and after starting TRT, their whole life turned around. That's great that you've sought help. After your TRT has started, don't rule out seeing a psychiatrist about possible depression.

          [–]alkior70 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

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          do roids actually make you feel stronger, for example benching 300 lbs is a little bit easier with roids than before. or do roids just increase muscle size?

          [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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          They increase your strength when on cycle. Different steroids increase it a different amount. Your muscles also harden, then increase in size. Some of the size increase is water, which will exit your body when you come off cycle.

          [–]fastburner 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

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          Can you ballpark how much this costs monthly between the steroids and the other drugs?

          [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

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          One isnt on steroids year round. You break them up in cycles. The cycles usually last 8-12 weeks depending on type. A basic smaller dose testosterone cycle with an AI, HCG, and a proper PCT can cost anywhere between 300 and 700 dollars. Some people decide to not use an AI or HCG (not recommended) and will pay around 200. An aggressive cycle with multiple steroids and HGH therapy can be as much as 4000 dollars. The minimum time between cycles is equal to the time spent on cycle or time on= time off. So if you run basic testosterone cycles all year with the necessary breaks in between, you end up spending about 800-1400 dollars annually. Most people don't stick to just testosterone after their first cycle though, they'll step it up and stack multiple types of steroids costing more.

          [–]fastburner 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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          Awesome answer, thank you. It's not nearly as costly as I would have guessed.

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            [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

            I honestly don't know too much about HGH. I know that it's not super effective for younger guys, it's very expensive, one must be on HGH for a minimum of 6 months. My father is on HGH as part of TRT and it's a miracle drug for him, it even helps him with chronic health problems.

            [–]RipinLip 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

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            Do you spike , oral, both?

            [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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            I am strongly against most orals. Most of them are liver toxic and can really hurt you. There are some, like anavar that can be used in moderation and stacked with a base of test.

            [–]wayelite 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

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            Ever notice that when on cycle you become more flushed (facially) easier or generally more red? TRT causes secondary polycythemia or build up of more red blood cells in your system which can actually place you at risk for ministroke/stroke as well, but I presume that your levels will reduce once you pull off TRT.

            [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

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            I'm not on TRT, I just cycle steroids. However, you are right in that my blood pressure goes up a little bit while on cycle from an increased red blood count. Some steroids increase it more than others such as Anadrol and Equipoise.

            [–]wayelite 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

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            Yep, TRT and recreational cycling will have the same effect, just that since you cycle for 2-3 mod at a time and presumably give yourself an equal if not longer time off with PCT then you won't be at as high of a risk as guys on continual TRT (presuming they're on reasonably high doses).

            [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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            Yeah, that recovery time es muoy importante

            [–]Dick_Dollars 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

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            Are you black or are you just that guy from LOST? Why do you call everyone brother?

            Or are you a priest?

            [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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            I'm southern, so I guess, that guy from Lost is the closest to the truth.

            Truth be told, I wish reddit was a little more brotherly. There's a fraternal existence here that goes unacknowledged by most here because of fear. I like the gym because everyone is there routing each other on, not hating. But then again, this is the internet.

            [–]Masribrah 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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            You aware? If so, allow me to shower you with some greens.

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              [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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              So as steroids are schedule 1 and 2 drugs, the gov't doesn't really allow too many studies to be done. That means that there is very little data out there that is backed scientifically (according to all the doctors I have talked to about bro science vs non). Anecdotal experiences and a few studies is really all the knowledge we have on the matter. There are a few articles in medical journals with good info, but it's limited. Steroid.com has some limited info, but I really like steroidology.com for it's higher quality of information and strong advocacy against ill-founded broscience. I have found that their forums have some very expert users that have seen it all. Before you go digging through forums, find steroid profiles and read up on their history, google should be fine for that or you can use steroid.com or mesorx.com. Once you get to the forums in your research, look at cycle logs and read up on best practices in the stickies area.

              [–][deleted] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

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              this is a bit of a strange one and im sorry for me being forward here but do steroids REALLY make your penis smaller? or does it not affect size at all?

              [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

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              They have NO effect on your penis at all other than making you want to use it more. Steroids CAN shrink your testicles temporarily, but they come back.

              Nut shrinkage comes from your body's response to excess testosterone in the body (that's been injected or taken orally). Your body recognizes that there's enough in the bloodstream, so it stops production, shrinking your testicles (they come back when your cycle ends, usually 10-12 weeks).

              However, there's a super safe drug called HCG (women use it for fertility and sometimes dieting) that you can take while on the steroids that keep your nuts producing, so they will stay their regular size. I use HCG on every cycle and I haven't had any noticeable shrinkage ever.

              Does that answer your question?

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              sure does, thanks :D not that i have a pair of balls, was just curious.

              [–]DRJay21 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (7子コメント)

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              Gday, was there any particular source that you got all your information? I am finding that there is alot on the net to sift through. Kind of hard sometimes to tell whats legit and whats not.

              What kind of gains have you seen?

              Do you keep much of the mass or stregth when you are off cycle?

              Thanks for the AMA.

              [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (6子コメント)

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              I sifted through the net for about a year, talked to doctors, both endocrinologists and 'anti-aging' docs, talked to my father who is on TRT, read the few studies that are out there, etc. A really good place for solid information is steroidology.com. The stickies on the boards are pretty accurate.

              I started fat at about 300 pounds worked my way down to 200, then back up to 240 ish adding mass and a touch of fat. Tripling strength.

              I keep 80% of my mass on most cycles. Water loss is most of that 20% but I take on a lot of water naturally. I don't keep as much of the strength, but that's to be expected. It also depends on which steroids you run, with how much mass/strength you keep.

              [–]DRJay21 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

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              Reading seems to be the best thing to do. Did you push your body as far as you could naturally before you went the route of steroids?

              [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

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              Yes, I did. There's no need to be on steroids otherwise. Your body is ready to make muscle, but growth slows once you reach a certain point. That takes years though.

              [–]DRJay21 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

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              It does indeed take a while. Would you do anything differently? What do you see as the main benefit from your cycles?

              [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

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              Would I do anything differently? Well, I would go back and change a few things, like never have taken anadrol. Also, I would've paid more attention to my diet. Diet really decides what your body is doing more than anything. It wasn't until I really started locking my diet down to flawless that I really saw my body change (before steroids). The main benefit from the cycles is just staying muscular. It rarely offers me much more than that. I'm really horny, my skin never dries out, I recover from injuries quickly, I have energy and that's about the only other benefits. Once I cycle off, all of that goes away. Then I work very hard at getting back to normal in terms of skin, blood pressure, and lipid profile.

              [–]DRJay21 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

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              Thanks for the answers. How many cycles a year do you do? Also is there an average cost of what you would pay each year. While on cycle do you use any other sups?

              [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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              I don't run them all the time. I take longer than recommended breaks between cycles. A good rule of thumb is time on = time off. Average cost can be anywhere between $300 per cycle (with ancillaries) all the way up to $5k. Certain steroids are more expensive than others. I use Protein, Multi-vitamins, creatine, NO, BCAAs, also acne wash and rogaine.

              [–]aazav 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

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              Oh!

              L-Aspartic Acid. I bought the study on it. It tells your system to up your testosterone output. you might want to check it out. I've got a bio degree, so I was able to read and understand it. Worth checking out.

              [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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              I will definitely look into it.

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              Why not just use creatine and protein? They are safer, cheaper (I assume) and more readily accessible. Plus they don't do the damage to your body steroids do.

              Don't you feel like you're getting artificial results? That seems hardly worth working towards since it's not real, earned progress.

              [–]Isnackonveagans[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

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              1. I use both. Yes they are very effective. For my goals, it wasn't enough. Steroids can be used safely, doing no long-term damage. It's a complex process, but it can be done with doctor supervision.

              2. Steroids are not 'instant-muscle' drugs. You can take steroids all you want, but without a perfect diet, strict workout regimen, you will see no results. They do amplify my gains, but if you saw how hard I work in the kitchen and the gym to put on the small amount of muscle I do, you would change your mind.

              [–]nadrojcote 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (11子コメント)

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              Creatine and protein will never do for you what juice will. Also high amounts of both are just as bad for you as steroids. Oral steroids are very dangerous. The injectable ones are not, which is why doctors will prescribe injectable testosterone to some patients.

              As for artificial results, they are not. The muscle thats there it is real. Most of the weight people lose when they cycle off is water weight. Water weight is one of the side effects of steroids.

              You dont just shoot steroids and grow big muscles. They increase your recovery time, allowing you to work out harder and more often than normal.

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              Bingo